see the links listed in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-523629-highlight-vlc+ffmpeg.html for more

anyone know of a framework for fully automatic gentoo installation and maintenance (updates) of multiple machines? i'm looking for something similar to debians FAI (in conjunction with a local pkg mirror). we're considering to switch our workstations to gentoo but i haven't found proper maintenance tools, yet…

it's not a good idea to run as root

whoops

vosixl, My English …..

I forgot to switch to a user. But my question is quick nonetheless
bI forgot to switch to a user. But my question is quick nonetheless/b

thanks bit' ^^

could anyone reccomend a good graphical frontend for wpa_supplicant in xfce4? Google isn't helping me much here, it only brought up one for kde, and I'd like to avoid brining in kde packages just for that

shouldn't be hard to write some wrapper scripts

just compile wpa_supplicant with the gtk USE flag enabled ?

e.g. cron running emerge –sync && emerge -upNDv world, so you see what needs updates
fully automatic … not sure what exactly you want

are they all the same architecture
?

friendly12345, yes, all x86

er, the gtk use flag has been enabled on my machien for some time. Does that bring in one, and how do I access it?

vosixl, Hardly anyone does that in irc though. So, don't sweat the small stuff.

wpa_supplicant_gui something ?

Ok!

well, if it did indeed bring its own frontend I'll go looking for it. For the time being I'm going to switch to a user account. Thanks for your help

DrEeevil, well, i want to keep the "roll my own" part low as there are so many small things to consider. i'm wary of automatic world-updates on production hosts (and servers). i want to cherry pick the updates. for debian we can simply push new pkgs to the hosts by putting them on our local mirror (which is the only one that our hosts are using). is there a way to do something similar in gentoo?

it's possible to set up a local mirror

hmm, you could use a binpkg host and only use binpkgs compiled on one test-machine

DrEeevil, friendly12345 sounds interesting. how do i get the hosts to automatically pull and install new binpkgs? (rsync?) is there any documentation about such a setup? is anyone actually doing it in production or should i rather stick with debian?

does anyone here use evdev for their mouse driver?

are you having problems with debian now?

no, he's asking if there's such a way to do what he's asking in gentoo, or rather should he just stick with debian for the time

somewhat related: you may be interested in using glsa-check to only get security related updates

"cron"

Hi, I am not able to mount reiser image as loop, could anyone advise on this? Is tehere any reason why reiser images would not mount with loop?

you sound like a debian user

i've had my fair share of it

agressive

and you still recommend it to people looking for alternatives?

last debian machine i had was running 2.1 …

I'm evil, what do you expect

o_gz, minor annoyances (old software versions so we have to mix in our own etc.). gentoo just feels better on the desktop but well, i need to see if it can be as maintainable as our debian setup…

you misunderstand.

ssh+screen, cron, mail - what more does one need? ;-0

generally, if i go the binpkg way, is there a safe way to have the clients really pull all dependencies or will i have to plan for revdev-rebuild and stuff?

if you build it all on the test machine, then package it up, all dependencies will already be packaged

DrEeevil, i have rolled such things myself before. but this is for 30 workstations, so i'd prefer something tried & tested. also stuff like different machine profiles etc. can quickly become a headache when not someone has put a lot of work into it.

I don't quite see why you would have any revdep-rebuild concerns, why do you think it breaks?

Tidus, sounds good. i have never worked with binpkg before, thats why i'm asking

If you install Xyz packet compiled with lib 2.5, but doesn't install lib 2.5 you will have a problem

Miravlix, well, under normal use (emerge) i have to do the revdep-rebuild quite often (and have seen it break, too). having to do revdep-rebuild on all workstations would definately be a showstopper

are all the workstations on similar hardware?

yes

Tidus, yes that should not be a problem, its all x86

actually, why do you want to change from debian (just for curiosity)?

Hmm, problem here is that revdep-rebuild doesn't create a new package it just overwrite and existing one

i'm afraid you misunderstand. is all the hardware like nearly identical…

I do not know if that is detected

you could revdep-rebuild then binpkg all the rebuilt packages and distribute them

Tidus, ahh.. well it's reasonably similar.. some kind of machine profile would be required though

how do you automate the package distribution?

How, the client machines wont know the difference between the installed software and the packages

very low risk of breakage

simple solution. compile your packages for the slowest processor you have out there, that way it should all work on all the machines
and use a generic kernel

How do you detect the difference between package-1.0 and package-1.0?

lukas__, well, i like how many things in gentoo "just work" after emerge (unlike debian). the only thing holding me back is the management tools. in debian its dead-simple to setup a local mirror and control it all. if i can solve that in gentoo i think we'd try a switch…

meh, just have a push directory and client-side logic that installs anything from that directory

Tidus, cpu shouldn't be a concern, it's all i686. machine profiles are necessary for s-ata vs ide, gfx drivers, sound drivers…

hence the genkernel

you'd definately have to treat such things differently, but it wouldn't be rocket science

I admit making a install everything system, but that sounds pretty horrible
I can't quite see how to maintain sutch a system

you're being a bit obtuse

What if the computers get out of sync and you can't update them all that week

I'm saying *just* for revdep-rebuilt packages

yeah sure or maybe your not as smart as you think and haven't considered everything

Garibaldi, well, i know, i already *have* built my own linux/gentoo install cd (pop it in, it pulls a disk image host from a server and writes it to the local disks). its the later maintenance (keeping those machines in sync) that's harder to solve.

possible, but unlikely

a standard genkernel will run on anything down to a 586 if i remember right, and has modules for all hardware built as well as the initrd to load the modules that's needed at boot

what I'm suggesting is you have the normal case for upgrades, like you'd do normally

in short, the same way every other distro does it… generic kernel with hardware detection scripts

and you'd have a special, separate place for packages that were revdep-rebuilt
if a binpkg exists in the special place, install it w/o question
otherwise, do a normal upgrade

What if computers doesn't get updated.

ok, I see what you mean

what exactly are you trying to accomplish? If the machines are are identical as far as make.conf /etc/portage/package.* then all you need to do is emerge –sync and they will be in "syns"

Maybe it's out for repair or the worker doesn't turn it on

Tidus, well, i too think the machine variation is solvable (there's also things like fstab to consider, hda vs sda etc.). as said, my major concern is how to put tested package on a central host and have them safely installed on all clients. if binpkg can do that i might give it a try…

then emerge -uDNa world

Then you suddently need 2007-28-22-forcedbinpackage 2007-xx-yy-forcedbinpackage

then you'd have to handle it separately

man make.conf … it says something about a binpkg path, then man emerge for the flag to use binaries only

qpkg packagename

hmm.. well, guys, thanks for all the advice. i think i'll take a close look at binpkg and figure out if it can do the trick for us. i'm still not quite convinced (there's a reason why debian has special tools for this) but hope i can work it out.

but such a case would depend on your environment. If you've got people turning machines off, that's a problem either way you look at it

Garibaldi, well, the debian boxes simply have an apt-get update;apt-get upgrade in cron. should be easy to do that with qpkg as well but i guess i have to rsync the pkgs over manually.

Nono the binpackage system supports a file host

ahhh okay

PORTAGE_BINHOST

In an extreme case, you could have separate folders for each machine, which contain links to the actual files. When a machine does this special upgrade, it removes its file.
that way, if you have a mystery machine off in some other world and it comes back, it will still get any pushed files it missed
(and the other machines won't relive the push experience)

Garibaldi, yes, that's the kind of magic that FAI can do and that i don't feel like building myself (because it's not easy to get right)

You have the binhost on a web server, then your machines out and about can update themself too

doesn't seem so hard to me

Still, there is config file update concerns and there is nonversion changed files

Garibaldi, build it, release it, become famous

heh, there's no so much to build

Miravlix, yup right.. and i haven't even thought about the config file issues ugh

but I will be doing so within the next year or two

Garibaldi, then build it, release it, become famous. call it FAG or so (fully automatic gentoo)
i'm sure i'm not the only one who would like to run a set of gentoo machines in a controlled environment.. right now it feels like gentoo is more for the individualists (home desktop)
i think even in the blurb it says "no gentoo machine is like another". which, imho, is more a bug than a feature

I've not had much trouble running a bunch of servers, 30 still sounds manageable to me

i hope it stays desktop oriented unlike much of the mainstream lunix

&& rm $i; done

it becomes what people make of it

s/HOST/HOSTNAME/

DrEeevil, managable is a relative term.. the little things sum up and stuff like installing a new desktop should not be more work than popping in a cd and walking away (we're at that point with debian now and i will definately not go back)

can be done

easily
there's all sorts of ghosting applications
could you not use one of those?

Garibaldi, well, bad example on my part as i have already solved it even for gentoo…

hi! is it possible to symlink remote host directory?

"even for gentoo" as if Gentoo is some horrible case

Garibaldi, no, i meant it like "even for gentoo where FAI is not available"

is there a way to hop into a running session with freenx? it seems that there may not be

is it possible to symlink remote host directory?

lng, no

here's another one… when I emerge –search I am not getting the latest result that I can see from the mirror (i.e. there is a version3 nxserver-freeedition on the mirror but emerge shows 2.1)

is the later version masked ?

um
i'd h ave to ftp in to check?

thoraxe, you can also ls /usr/portage/…
if you have synced recently

oh
maybe i need to sync

thoraxe, eix can show you all versions that you have in the tree and if they are masked

eix?

Hi! I cant find a man page for ping. Why is that?

thoraxe, yes

i'm guessing that is a program

anyone here using TMDA?

wep, i tried but it sucks because it can eat bounces…

Because no one has filed a bug report, to get it in the main man page archive
or in iputils where the binary is.

Why fill a bug report for that? Does't seem like a bug (Am not so familiar with the bug system).

I've got a wireless card that I simply can't setup. is it possible that there are certain cards that linux doesn't support?

hi folk, i'm experiencing some strangeness with binary packages. specifically it seems some symlinks aren't correctly created (they're just missing).

It's a bug allright, the system shouldn't have ping installed without a man page

Maybe it's time for me to learn the bug system and fill a report.

Seems all of iputils man pages is missing

/etc/mail/spamassassin symlink simply doesn't exist.

Hmm?

i just did emerge sync and then emerge search. one package now shows up as masked, but the version of nxserver-freeedition that is shown to me differs from the latest version available on the mirror that I have in my make.conf

that specific symlink is created in src_install() in the ebuild using dosym, but it seems to not land in the tbz2 …

not so fast …
bug 158660

https://bugs.gentoo.org/158660 nor, P2, All, madman2003@gmail.com-base-system@gentoo.org, RESOLVED, FIXED, net-misc/iputils-20060512 fails to build manpages

"no manual entry for ping"
that's the box i just built

yes, and there is a reason for it

Miravlix, known issue?

to keep hax3rz from DOSing j00r pr0n?
heh

Is a Macmini (Powerpc) a good machine for a quiet little java server hosting running gentoo?

yes

I think kerframil gave you a bug code for it?

This mught be a little off, but I'm trying to put windows on another partition and I wonder what FS is best for the swap partition. I think ntfs is good for root

Thanks!

nxserver-freeedition-3.0.0-r2 is on the mirror but emerge –search is showing 2.1.0
so i'm not sure what's up with that
maybe i have to install 2.1 before i can update to 3.0?

yes. unfortunately, there are a truckload of deps required just to build the manpage. so you have to set USE="doc" if you want that (may have been fixed in ~arch, not sure).

Everytime this box reboots, it loses everything in /etc/resolv.conf and timezone configuration

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164655 — never mind. found my problem.

if you're using a dhcp client, you can set something like dhcp_eth0="nodns"
see /etc/conf.d/net.example

I'm not.
The IP remains set statically.

would there be a reason why i'd manually have to download an ebuild?

And even then, it would not fix the 5 hour clock skew I get.

eats bounces?

if you say something is writing over resolv.conf at boot, then a dhcpc client is the most logical suspicion to have.
I cannot think of any other explanation.

I'm not saying something is writing over it. I'm saying that it does not save the changes I've made from one boot to the next. There is no dhcp client even installed on it.

i get this very subtle high-pitch squeal when my nvidia-driver kicks in on my 8600M GS (Asus F3SV laptop) — is this damaging my screen? the display *looks* fine…

And you're also ignoring the other symptoms.

i am building a custom circuit to do some work. i need to write a client to run the circuit. is there a good/bad language/toolkit to sieze direct control of the parallel port?

and i can't really hear it anymore, it's mainly when it first switches to X

Hi, I can't remember who it was now, but someone mentioned that wpa_supplicant comes with its own graphical frontend. I did a little searching, and it looks like they were talking about wpa_gui which doesn't seem to exist on my system despite having the gtk USE flag enabled. What might I be missing?

wep, you send mail to A, the mail bounces, tmda sends a challenge, you never get the bounce

is nvu dead? o_O

Hazard, maybe your /etc is located on a RAM disk?

why do you say that?

That's a good idea, but it's on /dev/hda3

qt3 or qt4 USE flag?

last update is in 2005, and .. well.. it's not that good

what is on /dev/hda3? your entire root filesystem?

I don't think I set either of those. What do they do, and should I enable one or both?

And my apache config isn't being reset with the others.

gtk qt3 qt4 use flag ?

just by opening one of my project files and saving it, it managed to mess it up

can you compile kde 3.5 with qt4 USE flag?

Yes. Then I have two more HDDs on /home and /var/www

I use xfce4 anyway

they build the QT libraries (version 3 or 4 or both)

ah.. there's no solution to that?

sorry my mistake, there's no gtk use flag

|it's not as bad as some

wep, you can let everything that looks like a bounce through. but "looks like a bounce" is a very blurry metric.

well, I'll go ahead and throw those use flags in, and see if that doesn't get me wpa_gui

if only a bounce format was rigidly defined..

you only need one of them, I thinkl
*think

so, just before the point of a shutdown you can be sure that resolv.conf and, although you don't mention it, I assume you're referring to /etc/localtime or /etc/conf.d/clock contain the contents you expect? yet, when you reboot, the contents are the not the same?

so qt4 just to go with the newer version?
ok

i couldn't find a replacement for dreamweaver for linux till this day.. this is mainly the #1 reason preventing me switching our company machines all to secure linux web hosting =/

newer libraries not newer version

it would actually be interesting if there was a very specific format for spam, abuse, bounce, and all other official emails..
that way i could filter all incoming mail on postmaster@blah to only accept official stuff

glimmer or … what's the other one..

quanta ?

I'm not sure which time file is wrong, I just know when I boot back up the time is off by 5 hours. (thus I assume /etc/localtime) but yes, that is the case.

the thing is no spammer would use the official format because everyone would filter it…

now to wait an eternity for mplayer to finish emerging so I can newuse. Thanks for the help friendly12345

The domain line of resolv.conf will remain the smae, but all nameserver lines get dropped.

doesn't look like glimmer is a designing app

this is actually my first time using gentoo as a desktop OS. Done a few Xless server setups but never a laptop

ok. considering the nameservers problem first, please pastebin /etc/conf.d/net

gentoo's the best hosting on laptops

I *really* like the feel of xfce4. Nice and no-nonsense

DOH.. you're right.. bluefish?? i know it's not quite dreamweaverish, but i like it.

tried it.. none of them have the 'design' part to show you a design view of what you have, such as what nvu kind of shows.

tried emailing the maintainer?

of nvu? no, but will i really reach anywhere with that ?

http://fis.homelinux.net:8080/net

if you can reach the head of the nvu dev team, you could get a "is it dead?" answer

fair enough
will do

Uh oh. I need a new HDD for this box. I just ran out of space in /home.

well, throw away all those warez and you'll be fine with your HDD for another twenty years

rm -rf / — 100% compression
make sure to empty the cache in the home folder, especially if you're a kde user
like the .thumbnails folder

it's probably because you are setting a dns realted option in conf.d/net, that gives it carte blanche to play with resolv.conf. you could actually set your nameservers in conf.d/net. or try removing the dns_domain_lo directive.

try out NVU

related*

I'll try that,. Any ideas on the time one?

that was the center of the topic

I'm not even a GUI user, much less KDE

firstly, what is your actual timezone?

sorry i was behind

GMT-5
errr.
US/East/Eastern if I recall correctly.

America/New_York

US/Eastern, now that I='ve loked.

tried quanta and or kompozer ?

Man, this lag is not helping my already poor typing skills.

it may be that your system clock is subject to drift. it would be interesting to note whether there is any significant margin between the output of date and the output of hwclock over time. if so, then you might want to set CLOCK_SYSTOHC="yes" in conf.d/clock
oops
^

yes, and they don't showy ou the design, like what dreamweaver has

uanta has more coding features than Nvu, yet also has a WYSIWIG and hybrid-WYSIWYG interface

really ?

Sounds doubtful. The clock remains correct until a reboot, and then jumps off by several hours.

i never seemed to find it

quanta does

Hi everyone, im trying to get gensplash working. And it does, except that i can't switch to verboose mode. I have made sure that CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y in my kernel… Can someone point out what could be the problem? thx in advance

hmm, i'll give it another try then

are you sure you are talking about the hardware clock?

hi experts

oh man, again
heh

The closest Linux equivalent to Dreamweaver that Ive found is Quanta Plus

are you sure you are talking about hwclock? have you run hwclock just before shutting down?

thanks dcoats, will give it another try. maybe i missed something last time

that will show the clock as maintained by the CMOS.

'I don't know which clock I'm talking about. I just notice that irssi's time is off, and I run the date command. THen I forget about it until the next time I have a power outage.

now, if _that_ turns out to be OK but jumps after a reboot then Linux is not to blame.
I think that's the first thing you should check.

I never even knew about that. That one is off by 4 hours.

aha

and 11 minutes, actually.

you will probably benefit from setting the aforementioned directive.
and you can fix it now by running hwclock –systohc
also consider using a NTP client

That is one of my next projects. I failed at it the last time I built this network.

I'm using openntpd. it has a few drawbacks compared to ntpd when used on Linux but, on the other hand, is incredibly easy to setup. my configuration file consists of two lines, "listen on 192.168.254.0/24" and "servers europe.pool.ntp.org".

Ok. I think I'll give rebooting a shot, and see if these adjustments hold.
My probelm was in trying to get my various boxen to synch to the firewall that was synching to an exterior ntp server.

what the package name of the konqueror integration package?

what happened to packages.gentoo.org ?

it went down.

any wine vst asio producer pro's here?

thanks

if I just wanted a network card to just listen..without an ip address host address. would I just set it to " null " ?

that seems kinda specialized — maybe ##networking can help

cool thanks!

yes #config_eth0="null" , its all described in /etc/conf.d/net.example

Problem solved on both counts. Thank you for the help.

jolly good.

hello

hi

jeez, qt4 is taking longer to compile than mplayer and all its deps did

knows someone how high the cpu usage goes with gbit traffic over network when doing nfs?
is it very cpu consuming?

shouldn't be high, disk I/O is cheap, network usually too … 10% on a modern machine I'd say

ok, because i've seen some TOA NAC (http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/Networking/GigE/ANA-7711C/) and i thought that the usage can't be so high on todays computers that such a card would make sense
s/TOA/TOE

single gbit shouldn't be a problem, but put 5 of those in a box and watch it burn

hmm

heh ok, but i think that then the bus would be the limiting factor?

what diff command should i use to make a patch suitable for putting in an ebuild?

possibly … and interrupts

yeah, that's exactly what this card does, it sucks in loads of traffic and generates much less interrupts than a normal nic, but the problem is that the last kernel supported was 2.4.18 so their driver is very old and i've reviewed their source and it would need lots of changes to make it work on linux 2.6

:-)
…. why proprietary software fails it

it's not proprietary, as i said, the source is available, but would need lots of changes

try out a Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5701 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 15)

ok their asic and microcode is proprietary, but which current cpu/pci hardware is not

hmm, send one of those cards to the kernel dudes and wait a month

ok so apparently my portage was way out of sync and i chose some bad mirrors… now that I'm trying to update gnome i have a bunch of blocked package erorrs
any suggestions?

well, the source from adaptec is huge, it is two thirds hardware control and hardware dependent things and one third the tcp/ip stack from the kernel 2.4 days that is offloaded to the asic's cpu (it has 64mb ram onboard) and there are over 130 files, i don't think that this is so easily done in 1 month

pastebin the output of emerge -uDNpvt world

sec

I'm not completely serious, but I'd guess that integration into mainline kernel can't be that hard

http://pastebin.com/d40d51a29

I've installed ytalk, but it can't find a talk daemon. What else do I need to install?

a talk daemon

well, last year chelsio communications sent a huge patch for a generalized tcp/ip offloading framework to the lkml and it didn't got included into the kernel, so i think it would be hard to convince the kernel guys to include it

how do I disable mouse acceleration & set the sensitivity @ xorg.conf ?

ok, those are easy enough. Just unmerge them

chelsio builds 10gbit cards

Twinkletoes, http://gentoo-portage.com/s?search=talk

Yeah - I figured that… I don't kno what it's called though

unmerge the blocked packages?

no, unmerge the block*ing*

or the packages doing the blocking
right

Wow, more emerges less ignoring updates! just emerge -C control-center

Thanks

?

no worries, just unmerge those three

hmm sounds interesting, but does this thing offload some burden from the cpu or is it "just" a nic with a larger buffer?

since I only have a few GBit cards at work and none at home I never really looked at those

yeah me too

Hi! Somebody knows if exist any command to sync the tree of portage but show me the status?\

milk-it: what status?

how do I disable mouse acceleration & set the sensitivity @ xorg.conf ?

Hi, does someone now a regular expresion for grep, with which a can find all lines with 1, 2 or 3 spaces in it

Dominik[HTN]: this isn't the place for that question

milk-it: eix package has eix-sync that will give you a overview after the sync is done

Dominik[HTN]: there is a #regex

hmm interesting is that M$ seem to force network offloading to the network cards, perhaps because in the early days (2001-2003) they got ignored by companies like adaptec, the TOE NAC i was referring to has only linux drivers

fascinating

I have running Gentoo install on x86. Now I want to move to AMD64. Is it possible to keep my current system?

only if you stay 32bit

he wants to know how much longer syncing will take

why can't I merge xzgv btw :/?

DrEeevil, 0%…50%…100%

hi

milk-it: can't really predict that, but rsync does have some progress reporting

how can I part a file in 1.5 chunks -
and rejoin them on windows
just to transport a 2.7 gb file from my gentoo to a windows per sdcard which has 2 gig

any packing program like rar, zip or tar+bzip2 should handle that

lnxnt, as in linuxant?

Zeroth404:

as in linux-not!

helo

new kernel + change CHOST and CFLAGS will not help to migrate from working 32 bit to 64 bit?

my gentoo has been crashing for 2-3 days now

can anyone recommend an image viewer like xzgv? can't find that package

i suspect that its either ktorrent or azureus

|geoaxis|, you have bad hardware or hardware configuration

no, as in linux nt , "ente"

lnxnt, the company that abused the linux kernel? :-p
lol

don't get that

anyone, do linux modules ever get loaded automatically, as in when needed or at boot?
I'm real confused as to how all that works
I knmwo yu can modprobe

Zeroth404, the kernel can do some autoloading.. and the script /etc/modules.autoload.d picks up slack that udev misses

if you set yuor kernel to do automatic loading, yes

/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 sorry

grknight, I notice that some modules are put there automatically..but by what?

Zeroth404, deps of what your loading are always pulled in
Zeroth404, like your sound card as a module needs the alsa items or it wouldn't work

grimm26, how does the automatic loading work. when the service is requested and the kernel realizes it doesnt have it loaded and needs it?

Zeroth404, if it's a device, many times udev takes care of modules. it doesn't always though so the script mentioned above takes care of those cases

anyone here ever run amavisd-new?

yes

wep, amavisd-new++

i'm wondering what it would be like to simply run clam/spam separately.. amavisd-new is kind of bulky

how do I disable mouse acceleration and tweak the sensitivity while using fluxbox?

grknight, I'm just trying to figure out whether I should make all kinds of modules for thing I *might* need. I don't want things loaded that I don't use..

wep, if you're running postfix, i can recommened policyd-weight to cut down on a lot of bogus mail exchangers

hey, how come i have to enter the namesevers into resolv.conf each time i connect to a new network? shouldn't dhcp figure that stuff out?

what's that do?

wep, analyzes DNS records compared to where a mail is connecting from and what it says it is and a few other things
wep, if things go over a limit, it slams the door

ah.. i was thinking of doing tmda…

wep, this is much more effective today since 70% of spam uses something like "HELO friend"

looks kind of cool..
i never looked at the envelope info for my anti spam filter webmail host

hi, if an ebuild requires =media-libs/gstreamer-0.8 what will be pulled? gstreamer-0.8 (same slot) or directly gstreamer-0.10 (not the same slot) ? in other words, does dependencies handling take care of slotted packages in this case?

don't work… Example: I want to merge the latest version of python, but not equal to dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r4 because of GLSA.

is there a way to log that stuff so that i could see if policyd-weight would work for me?

hmm -mmmx does no work on amd64?
seems to be a filtered use flag on 64bi

wep, think so.. look at the docs

also.. if it's checking RBL/blacklists… isn't that already done by postfix w/out this module?

tmda you may use as last line of protection

wep, it's done more effectively from what i've seen since it's weighted against many things

for small servers it is very good

you don't recommend tmda unless spam is a really really huge problem?

how can I join files splittet with split?

cat

tmda itself will not process all spam

pinky, =dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r4 to package.mask

tmda seems like a large step..

on windows

it is not a new tool and not of common use

Doh! thx

without source IP check and other filters it will flood your queue

source ip checking is a part of tmda?

I mean dnsbl

is there a facility for emerging two things at once?

wep, policyd-weight is quite fast and leads to less checking by content scanners such as spamd/clamd/amavis/tmda which tie down a good mail system

tmda is like if you want to make deep vacuum you use 2 or pumps consequently

ganymede, you can do it, it's just not recommened because you could do extra work or merge 2 of the same package together

why can't I merge xzgv?

exyan, what's xzgv?

lightweight image viewer, know any alternatives?

What would explain why my gentoo computer uploads very slow over LAN? I have a bunch of media files on a mounted drive that I stream over my network, but gentoo uploads them very slow.

and less than 50% of responders do understand how to reply to tmda's requests

why would it flood the mail queue?

samba?

is there any "screen" master around here ?

DrEeevil, yes I have the share mounted through samba

exyan, it was removed from portage 2 weeks ago… ChangeLog doesn't say why

because tmda will try to send fake return addresses used by spammers

blame the server then

know any other image viewers?
light*

and some servers may deem that your are bounce-spam-relay

exyan, i'd stop using it too as it has a gaping security hole

it does, but now I need an publish your images online viewer lol
;p

hmm
do you think it's worth the time to install tmda?

can anyone help me with screen

is it hard to manage?

it frozed , again…
i cant quit it . my tty1 frozed with it as well and i cant reattach

sounds like your machine hangs

exyan, found this ebuild that you can stick in an overlay.. http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=97268&action=view

ITS THE

it worth to try it

EYE OF THE TIGER

keeb topic

np

well the machine is okay
and i can ssh into it

that is quite strange

its not the first time it happened !

how many accounts do you handle?

but I don't really want smthn like ACDSee, I want it uber light

only one

once i attached from tty1 from the machine and it frozed there too
and once in another situation too !

i don't see anything referring to the Eye of the Tiger

and my tty1 is dead with it as well … all info remains on it … and stuff like this ! grrrr

tmda also has a squirrelmail plugin…

for 1 account no need to setup mailserver

but the worst part is that i cant use screen -D -R to reattach to it !

where would i host my mail?

so what can i do ? kill screen and restart it ?
duhh

screen -x ?

keeb it just hangs and doesnt gives back info !

no ideas man, sry

with isp, or mailportals

is here … he is in the screen session

they all suck

exyan, try pqiv

besides a Domain hosting was only $5/yr

i'm having trouble connecting to packages.gentoo.org

it's down

hi, how can i tell if a binary is statically linked?

what is an easy way to get the last 5 chars of a string with bash?

what was the command to view what files are in use?

hi

ldd will show whats dynamically linked

klingon, lsof

sion_, thnx

i just run ldd on the binary?

klingon, its a seperate package tho

yes

thanks
really noobish question, but right after a make from source, where are the binaries usually?

Could someone help me? When I run update-modules force I get "* Warning: could not generate /etc/modprobe.conf!"

in a subdir of the source
often build/ or similar

or have a look in the Makefile

mk will do
any way to search a directory structure to list all binaries?

I've got 'nvidia mcp51 hd audio' but alsaconf says 'no supported pnp or pci card found.' Oo

anyone?

running as root?

yeah

use the in-kernel intel hda

you have setup your audio using the gentoo alsa guide?
intel8×0
snd_hda_intel

Intel HD Audio ?

exyan, that's the one

m, will my mic work too? since I've read there were issues with the built in driver

what nic?

mic

oh
no idea
should

gotta try

yeah, I run it as root

I thought the mcp51 was hda already … but if it's ac97 all the better

it's hda

Somebody knows if exist any way of place relief in GroupBox?

so try the "intel" driver, even if the name sounds wrong

ops

just makin sure. i spent three hours troubleshooting something tonight because it wasn't fully as root. i'm not sure what else could be the cause of your problem. good luck though

sorry
this question is to #qt

yay or nay?

hahaha, thanks

kagemaru, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4002403.html#4002403

Is there some way to make sure GLSA data is current? Perhaps a way to clear it out and load it again?

emerge –sync ?

needs more than that I fear…

Cim happy that i think afteer 1 day of trying to fix my installation im finally getting to it =D

thanks, I'll check it out

pinky, sync then `glsa-check -l affected` to see if things are affecting you.. fix them and then `glsa-check -f new` to keep the list short

kagemaru, its a 'fix'

gj soulride1, now enable encryption on your root partition

pinky, after that… `glsa-check -l new` will just show new things in a very short list

I still get the same error… but it does create a modprobe.conf file

Is it possible to use rsync if the remote server allows scp and sftp access, but not access to ssh?

does anyone know how to change the default application a program gets opened with in Gnome?

kagemaru, there may be other forum hits with better fixes, I did not check all 101 hits

eh… what did you search for? I only got 1 hit on google

kagemaru, I searched within the forums.. another possible is: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-425693.html

list show something that conflicts with the gentoo website. The first time i ran glsa-check it showed a lot of things… I found my world file was inaccurate. I backed it up and regenerated it, then updated it all… Everything went away for GLSA except for 3 python things. I versions of python it wanted to update to conflicted tho, so I went to the gentoo website to look at the particular GLSA's. The site ( http://www.gentoo.org
/security/en/glsa/glsa-200610-07.xml )says that =2.4.3-r4 are ok, but I'm at 2.4.4-r4 and it wants to GLSA wants to downgrade me.
http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200610-07.xml

kagemaru, good luck with it, long read the last one, I gotta go shop..

I am using xfce4, if I emerge openoffice will gnome also be installed? Seems like it has dependencies to gnome-base; I am looking for a lite openoffice and I definitively do not want to install gnome

have a look at your useflags …

abiword might be something to look into

http://rafb.net/p/hvIGqb82.html I do have "-gnome" there

pinky, what does `glsa-check -l 200610-07` say?

can I make kwallet remember my username when logging into windows hosts?

buffer overflow, the same as the site http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200610-07.xml

will it handle M$ formats? I need to convert them

strange then …

indeed! I can't think that openoffice needs gnome..

yes, abiword handles .doc at the very least, certainly up to office 2k3 format anyway

http://rafb.net/p/o4M38g75.html

beyond that I'm not sure, but it works for me

great. I'll get it then

oops, sorry… it says to downgrade, that i am at 2.4.4-r4 atm and need to be at 2.4.3-r4

deim0s_free, btw.. your first 4 lines of USE are incorrect.. those are LINGUAS

I had originally put them into LINGUAS..then for some weird reason I moved them there - can't remember why. I will fix that, thanks

hang on, deim0s_free, lemme check something

ok - thanks

I'm on a switchbox with that system can't cut and paste

well..abiword wants gnome-base too. I think I have misconfigured USE flags for Xorg or xfce4 http://rafb.net/p/xhmeLm74.html

mzbot, teach pinky paste

Use http://rafb.net/paste or emerge wgetpaste. Pasting in #gentoo itself clutters the chat and will get you kicked by Naamah. Use the aforementioned site and hand us the URL so we can check it out.

deim0s_free, it

"it" in LINGUAS?
Italian localization

deim0s_free, it's the eds use flag that's pulling gnome-base (and possibly gstreamer)

it's probably the eds USE flag that's causing the gnome dependencies

umh..interesting

not openoffice itself

I'll have to tune that

no gui on that system. I just transfer by hand, carefully. What I wrote was accurate.

what USE flag(s) are you referring to?

pinky, wgetpaste is a console utility to paste output

[ebuild N ] app-office/openoffice-2.2.1 USE="cairo cups dbus eds —–
eds is part of gnome, and it's eds that's pulling it in

deim0s_free, if you want to be gnome free, -eds and -gstreamer in make.conf

oh..! so it is not an USE flag of mine, it is a default use flag I will add "-eds" What's eds?

eds = evolution-data-server

ah ok
but is it normal that it is by default emerge'd ?

deim0s_free, if you're using desktop profile, yes

yes I am
should I switch to another profile? (I am using xfce4 as DE)
I think no

deim0s_free, you might also want to -esd (which is a sound daemon)

Cool, but i don't irc there and my vnc broke somehow… only switchbox… too much hassle to paste into something on that system. I'll look into that tho for next time.

I cannot put the "-xx" values in LINGUAS because emerge complains that LINGUAS is non-incremental. That's why I had put them in USE

deim0s_free, all linguas are off by default

ok I have modified the USE flags, now it's getting fetched - thanks!

deim0s_free, you specify one or 2 and all the others are off

good. So I must have taken example from a bad make.conf to put those stupid -xx in the USE variable

deim0s_free, because if you equery a build that uses LINGUAS.. you'll see that it's slightly masked as to what you see and it uses

truly true

I recompiled my kernel, but alsaconf still says the same, no supported pci card found Oo

exyan, built in or as a module?

built-in

exit

exyan, does alsamixer show your card?

but another funny thing, I just started alsamixer and it's got stuff like "Card: HDA NVidia ; Chip: Conexant CX20549 ; Item Master [Off]"
etc
imo that means it's actually working lol

exyan, alsaconf works best with modules

what's the package for spreadsheets?

using genkernel-3.4.6 busybox doesn't compile reporting /var/tmp/genkernel/1096.3088.14597.3688/busybox-1.1.3+gentoo/libbb/procps.c:15:22:
asm/page.h: No such file or directory

mrfree, see /topic

how do I get Master to [on] ?

grknight, oops ok sorry

Kagemaru, don't run irc clients as root

Yep.

I know, it's the live cd though

irc as root = impending disaster.

Kagemaru, what does that matter?

grknight, I'm searching for a bug in 3.4.8 and I want to try using 3.4.6

not much to destroy at the moment
xD

Kagemaru, still anything you mount could be potentially accessed… as well as the network you're on.
Kagemaru, just fyi.

mkey, brb then

exyan, i don't know what you're looking at.. i've always done sound as a module to better debug it. you can try to tab around i think

ehm..sorry to break again, but any idea why also gnumeric needs gnome-base? I have already modified my make.conf and updated the environment

there

deim0s_free, i think it pulls in a lot of gnome things.. so one can be required to have gnome-base

AFAIK gnumeric is a part of the gnome office

oh well, that explains a lot of things
probably true. It needs libgnomeprintui for exmple
(pretty OT) are you aka Grey Knight?

deim0s_free, http://gentoo-portage.com/AJAX/Ebuild/27581/View
lots of gnome things in there

Hah! Sorry, I'm dense… thanks for your patience. http://rafb.net/p/5tixE632.html

I was actually giving a look at http://gentoo-portage.com/app-office/

emerge openoffice or emerge openoffice-bin if you don't want to wait a "bit"

I have an alias problem with nvidia. The "old driver support" (which I don't need as far as I know) and the "nvidia driver support" use the same alias in modprobe.conf, which farks up update-modules… any ideas how to fix it?

oh, I won't miss the compile-time! I like the matrix-style scrolling

on my p4 3ghz 1gb ram and sata hdd it took "only" 6h30min

I have 1.6 Ghz and half your ram…I better think that I do not need openoffice
what's comparable to gnumeric for spreadsheets?

Hi, simple question here - how can I give a user access to the wireless device so that I can change wireless networks and such as a user and not root?

deim0s_free, there is a binary openoffice package too.

I checked the wiki and couldn't find my answer

yes but it's anyway a big package…

pinky, not sure then… it shouldn't do that

deim0s_free, true.

anyway I think I'll end up installing it, it's a very complete and good suite

i have a file with a list of things to emerge, how do i make a script to emerge them one at a time?

there is also kspread from KOffice project but for sure it will need some KDE dependencies. just go for openoffice-bin

yeah - probably the best deal
thanks all

I masked out my current version and emerge will build 2.4.4 (no r4). Prolly won't do anything, but I'll try. Thx for your help!

If only you could install openoffice-bin and then tell emerge to make a custom openoffice-bin in the background
But ooo-bin blocks ooo so you can't work while it makes it

where can I put 'xset m 0 0' to get it at startup?

hey guys, I'm trying to use Esetroot but it keeps saying the image file couldn't be loaded

WM/DE?

err?

fluxbox

I can't give you advice unless I know what your running…

flux

hey all. im reading the wiki page about the amd64-
amd32 chrootint
*chrooting

I don't know flux. :p

I have no diskspace left

well there's gotta be something like ~/.xinit or smthn
I don't remember it

can I tell split to split one part of the file to sdcard and the rest to disk?

you guys think that is going to solve my problem of the 32bit odbc driver on the 64bit system

It's not universial
Some DE's use some files, other DE's other files

how do i list all packages available in a category ?

judging by the name it should execute commands when X starts up

soulrider, category as in ?

Why don't you find out for yourself, by tracing how X is loaded, by reading the script files?

like for examle media-libs or games

soulrider, ls /usr/portage/media-libs/ ?

Thats how I learned the startup files I know about, that gdm sessions can use

oh, thanks

soulrider, just browse the tree or try http://packages.gentoo.org

like do i need to install the odbc driver, AND apache2 and php in the 32-bit enviornment?

It's all scripts, so it's all human readable, instead of being hidden in some binary, but even binaries will have documentation

soulrider, for searching eix is nice too

does anyone know how to give a user access to the wireless card so that he can connect to wireless networks and such without logging in as root?

got no idea where the scripts are etc

is there a group I can add the user to?

What command do you use to start X?

startx? though I got xdm setup, starts gdm, then goes fluxbox

im just looking for some games that dont need xorg

Is http://packages.gentoo.org down for anyone else?

less $(which startx)

down for me

There the first piece of the puzzle is decoding what startx does
for gdm check /etc/X11/gdm and /etc/X11/sessions

~/.xinitrc

Something man gdm will tell you

hey guys, what use flags should I be using with Esetroot?

btw is there a way to see what resolution & refresh rate am I running ?
since I'm on a laptop and no monitor options wanna see if I get my max refresh rate

packages.gentoo.org is going through extended maintenance, no ETA on when it's up I think

I ran into major problems while emerging gnome. I changed my CHOST from CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu to CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu. All was fine during the base installation, but errors while emerging gnome. Any ideas why?

You might be able to read it out of the log file in /var/log
Did you follow the howto on changing CHOST?

Systemax, you dont just change your CHOST and IF you do, you need to follow the guide

url plz

No, I didn't. I've been doing the gentoo installation from http://gentoo-install.com/install

only found my resolution there (which I kinda knew ^^)

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml and go search for chost

could osmeone help when i go to load my rt61 wirless module it loads fine but when i do iwconfig ra0 essid namehere it caused my system to lock up,"soft lockup" is what it says

What use flags should I be using on Esetroot?

someone*

I only know the gnome/kde screen setup programs, they tell you the refresh
I do beleive there is others though, so keep looking

or more specifically, why doesn't feh or Esetroot work for me?

tnx

su

can someone help me please?

argh, I've been looking around on the wiki for some time but cannot find out how to do it, or if it is possible. How can I give access to my wireless card to a user so that I don't have to login as root to change wireless networks or do other wireless-related things?

I can't figure out why feh and Esetroot can't load a wallpaper

Spamming the same question every 30 seconds is just getting people annoyed
Go use the mailing list if no one can help you here

very yup

ok, sorry

or check forums

tastum, what do you mean give access to your wireless card?

is the only auth log for gentoo /var/log/auth.log ?

That depends on your syslog configuraiton

well, much like users added to the audio group can use the soundcard to play music, I want the user to be able to use wpa_supplicant to change wireless networks and bring the card up and down

Where can I findout where my auths are logged to?

sorry if I wasn't clear before, I'm at work and very distracted, which is also why I ended up repeating myself too often

What syslogger do you have installed?

you can give access via sudo to specific commands/commandlines.

Syslog-ng

/etc/syslog-ng/* has it's configuration

it only mentions /var/log/messages
does that mean even auth logs go into messages?

I'm not sure

tastum, hrmm. i'm guessing you may be able to just set the permissions to the wpa_* scripts to include the group the user is in

I never used the old syslog-ng, but switched to the new one with custom made configuration

sontek, it defaults to /var/log/messages i believe.. you can split it out any way you want in the config

yeah, i'm only seeing failures though, no successes

You setup the amount loged with the actual program
Syslog just receives the log messages and stores it
/etc/login.defs

what would explain why transfers using cifs are so slow?

what's server, what's client?

I have 2 computers i stream media from, both on same 100mbit switch, and 1 of them i can max out download, but other is slow.

both same OS ?

hi Miravlix

DrEeevil, yes

now that is fascinating

Greetings Mahasamatman

klingon, same network card too?

I'll try and figure that out then, thanks for the assistance

DrEeevil, client is gentoo connected via wireless.. however wireless is not the problem. i also have a fedora computer i stream media from and the wireless laptop can max out its download when streaming from that computer

The official #samba channel is here on freenode, I beleive those guys is quite good at samba

are custom useflags still added to package.use?
well not custom, but individual use flags

yes

Global flags to make.conf and local to package.use

sounds good
and package.use is still in etc/portage/?

Miravlix I forgot to write the steps you used to repair your system that had mixed up USE flags. Could you recall them for me? (I am the one that cant get mesa to emerge and am behind on world as a result)

X is evil because it's also effect a lot of stuff with it's use flag.

anyone have any idea how long the online package database will be down?

Unable to load image file…" trying to set a jpg

swanfl, there are alternatives

swanfl, you can use sources.gentoo.org or the unofficial gentoo-portage.com

I had to wipe world and remove X use flags (maybe others too)

there are?

swanfl, try http://www.gentoo-portage.com/

I guess I just need to format and start over

hmm

emerge –depclean at that point should fail, but it will tell you what it fails on and you can emerge -C to slowly get sanity back

oh? the portage database is down?

while updating gnome i got x11-misc/xkeyboard-config failed

it'll be down until the unexpected maintenance is over

Talcite, not portage itself.. just a website that shows what's in it

very profound, DrEeevil

I see.. so does emerge –sync still work?

Talcite, yes

ahh good

Miravlix so "emerge -e world" "emerge –depclean" then "emerge -C"

You lost the password for the machine and have to brute force attack it?
emerge -e system

Talcite, plus.. it's good to be in the round-robin DNS of SYNC mirrors per area.. example "SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"

We just need to get the system to not depend on X
Wait it wont do much with a emerge -e system either, as long as X is on the system configure will find and use it

Miravlix ok,

Just go to emerge –depclean –ask after cleaning world
Might want to keep a backup of it. /var/lib/portage/world

how do I "clean world"?

what do you mean by clean ?

exactly

if you mean depclean, that is for world. emerge –depclean

more a "community administration" type of deal

rm it
lalalala I dont want to know, it takes all the fun out of guessing

Miravlix depclean proceding

ok so i'm trying to update gnome and failing miserably

?image/jpeg?" message in gnome, which package should I recompile with the jpeg USE flag? Or what can I do?

should gnome not be running when you're trying to update it?

Miravlix found nothing to do

it's better to have jpeg as a global use flag. put it in /etc/make.conf

now I know, but I don't want to recompile the complete gnome

then emerge -uavDN world to update your system

Miravlix says it canr resolve dependencies due to xinetd not being installed (needed by rsync)

"LDFLAGS apart from -Wl,O1 are not supported - this includes –as-needed" — is this correct?

hey, I just want to throw a thanks to the person who helped me out with wireless access for a user. Their suggestion helped me find the answer - you can set a group in wpa_supplicant.conf that can use the wireless card's control interface. It helped a lot

how did you do that? would you mind adding it to the wiki?

I wouldn't mind adding it to the wiki at all. Let me go do that

ty

in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf I set ctrl_interface_group=100 (the group for my user)

cool

then wpa_gui started working as soon as I restarted wpa_supplicant

I'm not sure it can be stated so precisely. Some say, no LDFLAGS at all are supported. But many bugs for –as-needed are accepted.

so –as-needed shouldn't flag a warning then? cool

when trying to set the wallpaper on fluxbox via fbsetbg, I just get Unable to load image file, any suggjestions?

I don't think that follows from what I said.

hehe i dunno :/

Hey guys, the Portage guide says you can have multiple versions of a package on a system, but it doesn't say how. I need qt3 on my system, how do I manage that?

do you have support for the image format you try to load?

slots
and set qt3 qt4 use flags

I guess I do ;p

igli, they are set, they're depreciated so it won't install qt3

is it only when you try to set the background when it fails, you can watch the picture with any image viewer like feh, mirage or such?

more like opera don't got an image viewer yet tbh, building my sys

you have any tool installed that can set the background then?

oh dunno, i'd ask in #gentoo-desktop if i were you

as I said I'm using fbsetbg

fbsetbg itself cant set the background. it needs extra tools. emerge feh and try again. dont forget to set jpeg and png in use flags in /etc/make.conf

mkay

guys I'm back today I bring you my broke net.eth0 can we gewt it fixed today hopefully what do you say ?

emerge -pv =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3, what does the bottom line say, Total…. 1 package and.. ?

1 reinstall.
Which doesn't sound good to me at all.

Kuprin, ok, and you sure you do not have it ?
Kuprin, got eix ?

I sure need a guru to get me out of this mess!

Kuprin, eix will show both versions if installed

The net.eth0 seems to broke somewhere in the area of dhcp because it doesn't come up either.

getting eix right now. New system, haven't emerged it yet.

Kuprin, fair enough, again, I am no expert on using slotted packages.. but if that says reinstall… I assume you got 3, but eix will tell

right now qt4 is installed.

other than that gentoo really is a good system just don't know to find the problem with net.et0 even if that isa th reason fore it going down the way it has.

ok, eix says qt3 IS installed

does gentoo upgrade cleanly from 2006 to 2007?

Mahasamatman, gentoo doesn't "upgrade" in the traditional sense

Kuprin, good

ext3 or reiserfs? opinion?
for the most part yes

victori, depends on the purpose

ironfoot491, what interfaces do you see in `ifconfig -a`?

add a _ there

workstation/eclipse java background compiles

mzbot, teach Mahasamatman upgrade

gcc upgrade: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml ( http://xrl.us/rhxw )

fail

victori_, didnt you ask before ?

stability and longevity

victori_, I remember that question

I understand grknight, I am trying to figure out why/when my system broke ,

I still have not decided

Mahasamatman, the only difference for a working 2006 and 2007 is the profile and a `emerge -avuDN world`

victori_, I still would go ext3 (the slower option over reiserfs 3)

sion_, looks like the damn thing won't compile anyway because it's having issues differentiating between qmake for qt3 and qt4

my sys hasnt been able to do a world since

Kuprin, yikes.. qmake.. I got no idea on that one..
Kuprin, what are you compiling ?

Mahasamatman, is your world file corrupt at all?

what's the deal with laptop displays and Xorg? my display makes a high pitched ringing noise (subtle, fades away after a bit *i think), and i want to make sure i'm not damaging it

mosno my guess the deal is you did a bad config

sion_, qtvba, because the package is masked for amd64, I want to see if I can bash it into compiling from source.

sion_, it's basically the Xorg -configure, then changed driver from vesa to nvidia

mosno, so.. check your tech manual on refreshes and all.. you are playing with fire if it makes a noise

sion_, is there some way to determine/probe-for the correct settings to add to xorg.conf if any?
ok thanks,
i'm going to get out of X now, ttys

Mahasamatman, or are things missing from /var/db/pkg/* ?

if i have a package that exists only in rpm what is better to do?
rpm2tgz?

Kuprin, ah ok.. seems a game ? tried to unmask it ?

tr3, or write an ebuild for it

grknight for the moment it doesnt exist ( it keeps failing mesa) I have been helped by people here over the past few months and all attempts lead to the exhaustion of those valiantly trying to solve the issue)

from what?

world file doesnt exist

sion_, masked by missing keyword, it won't unmask.

I cp'd it and rm'd orig

tr3, anything.. just `import rpm` to have it unpack… you can find help in #gentoo-dev-help in writing one

sion_, and yeah, it's a frontend for visualboyadvance, because vbaexpress is no longer good on Gentoo because you can't get the damn FLU lib sources

You still trying to cleanup or did you change plan?

Kuprin, how you unmasked ?

thanks

Miravlix says it canr resolve dependencies due to xinetd not being installed (needed by rsync)

sion_, I didn't, because it's "masked by missing keyword", according to our good friend the manual, you can't unmask that type of mask.

Kuprin, ah ok.. I never tried.. but… but.. there is an alternative

Oh?

Kuprin, make a 32bit chroot and compile the 32bit one ?

Miravlix when I got no followup from my telling you that I figured another nice guy had been beaten

well emerge even
Kuprin, * games-emulation/qtvba - Available versions: 0.2, looks table to me on 32bit

Naah, you just don't pay me enough to take up all my time. :p