Cache-Limit ?

whats that -f comand doo

hello, i was just wondering if editing /etc/mailcap by hand is safe, or if there's some external program i should be using.

it is if the box is on the internet

a user box? and what services would your iptables rules be blocking?

the vpn to my remotely available user box.

for one torents a fire f wall blocks ssh and vnc

(ok, so it's more like "sshd", not a real vpn)

even still, if its properly configured, whats the use of iptables except maybe rate limiting spamming connections?

that's it.

right, and so my original advice stands. a user box doesnt need iptables

i trust liable hes tought me that right stuff he tought me how to fix
lots
were is my note book gone too?

time to sleep for me
laters

how are you today?

Salut à tous
hi all

turion x2 with 1gb of ram and 256mb ati card
do i buy that for 150… ??
:P

I have no idea. 150 what? how large a display? Do the graphic and wireless cards work with free drivers (if you care about that)? I hear laptops with AMD CPUs can get hot.

15wxga
glossy
1gb of ram
i am surfing ebay for possible candidates 150 bucks looks good

off to get some saop and do cloths today

15.4" wxga is what I have, is acceptable (96 dpi). Glossy is a minus, IMHO, depending on your surroundings you may like it or not.
I don't think you'll get it for 150 US$ final price.

okay, how do i configure sound in debian? i have an old vibra 128 card

sounds a bit too cheap

true, it is just a bid

stuart-: have you been through alsaconf?

look for "already completed" similar items to get a better price estimate

themill, not yet, will try
themill, command not found. what packages do i need to d/l? i'm clean on a net-inst

stuart-: alsa-utils

themill, thanks

!tell stuart- about search

themill, i config'd and alsa asked me to have fun. but xmms asks me to configure my soundcard and won't play mp'3s

Can I run a command that tells GRUB to boot a particular entry once, then boot the normal default upon the next reboot?

you might be able to hack something with setdefault

interesting idea — thanks.

stuart-: try something simple like aplay first.

see "grub-reboot"

themill, aplay just stalls

thanks

stuart-: odd. are you sending it an mp3?

can someone tell me what to do about an interface called wlan0_rename?

!z25

methinks z25 is as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to staticly rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. the addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. if you don't want udev to touch your interface names, remove that file and z45_persistent-net-generator.rules in the same directory

z25 is the best thing since sliced bread

should I be able to use it with the name wlan0_rename? I am getting an erro when i try to set the essid on the card.

can you netinst through wireless?

my friend is having a problem beside me now, linux won't detect his wireless, and lists it as a firewire

I'm just assuming the name is set by udev - look into the file and see if that seems correct
you can chnge it to whatever you like there

stuart-: unlikely that it gets it that wrong. do you know what sort of wireless it is supposed to be?

stuart-: more likely he has a firewire port as well, and the wireless isn't listed

stuart-: look on both lspci and lsusb for the wireless card
stuart-: and some usb wireless cards have a kill switch that disconnects them from the bus not just turns off the radio

so do you guys recommend him instalilng the base first? because the network is slowing down the whole process
he says he has an 802.11b wireless, or something? haha

stuart-: sorry… I'm not with you. What have you done and what are you trying to achieve?

themill, trying to net-inst debian on his lappie with a wireless

stuart-: I don't believe that netinst will work with wireless. Can you stick a cable in the back of it to do the install?

hey.,. anybody know when the
KDE4-beta packages will be available to debian?

themill, yeah, that'll be okay. but i'll have to dc then. and this pc doesnt have wireless! oh no

hm. Is there a way to speed up massive deletion on an ext3 partition? It's idle, and I need to delete about a half of some 5M files.

d/l a full cd perhaps

themill, he has a router line at home though, how can i make sure his core installation recognizes his network card?

stuart-: you can get the base system working with the netinstall image… and if you've got a wireless card that is supported by the kernel without any extra firmware….. maybe.

yo

Hi

speaking of ext3 … when the hell is the 'superblock last write time in the future' going to be fixed

don't write from the future?

i don't, unfortunately… i'd write me the lotto numbers

stuart-: the netinstall image will get you to a working system that will see the network card (usually) and use dhcp or a static addr with it.
stuart-: I've not had netinstall fail to recognise a network card yet…

that's why i went jfs .. but i put ext3 on the laptop

investigating

you tell me

what kind of workload do you have on jfs?

it's all home based… simonrvn or peterS uses it, i forget which, they'd probably actually have a 'workload'
i went jfs a year or two ago, i forget, only one error since, and i can blame hardware i think

is it possible to pass some kind of "mtime" argument to rsync to only copy files of a certain age?

i read the manpage once, iirc yes

themill, okay i have the core system now. so there's no way i can set up wifi now?

there's no mention of "time" in the manpage or anything to do with dates

find, and rsync –files-from= ?

I wanted to specify the the mtime on a remote machine
i.e. pull files rather than push them

uh… find on the other machine

I don't see how I can do that
I want to run rsync on the target

duh, copy over the file!
*file list

-f, –filter=RULE add a file-filtering RULE

I don't wnat to run anything on the source

not even rsync?

not interactively
or "actively"

can anyone help me get a dwl650 up and running, the machine has a broken internal wireless card and i think they are somehow competing….

whoops, what package do i need to install if it says lspci command not found?

I've forgot, what's the command to have info on a package ?
like the version …

stuart-: pciutils

apt-cache show package ?

installed: dpkg -s package-name. available for installation: aptitude show package-name

!search

to find factoids containing thing. see http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt

Jean11, & jetscreamer thank you

ErNi_, pciutils command nto found

stuart-: install pciutils package

stuart-: that's not a command.

help! i cannot update my aptitude

more details required

Dynamic MMap ran out of room
Um erro ocorreu processando php4-dev (NovaVersão1)
Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_testing_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages
As listas de pacotes ou os arquivos de status não puderam ser analisados ou abertos.
sorry

ErNi_, no installation candidate

lol

!paste

Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.

!tell SamuraiDio -about dynamic mmap
got that?

stuart-: http://packages.debian.org/pciutils — there is pciutils package in all branchs

I suppose I could do "ssh host find…" first

jelly, yeah, tnx
jelly, that values means bytes?

I think so, yes

!tell SamuraiDio -about dynamic mmap

hi there
i've configured an vpn network here, how do i set an interface as the default route for an ip range?
route add -net 150.162.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 dev ppp0
this command stops all my connections
and ppp0 goes down

jelly, tnx, it worked

How can i `run_init` to /dev/loop0 that is made of a cramfs file?

ok, file-rc seems to be nice, sysv-rc-conf is good, but I would like to have init more logical (like to see while restarting networking that privoxy restarts too …)
is there some init system that works well with debian too?

is your gateway also in the 150.162.0.0/16 range?

jelly, probably the vpn gateway is there, it's the first time i am using VPNs

some reliable initng replacement

jelly, so i don't understand much about this

pastebin the output of route -n while it works

privoxy doesn't restart when networking restarts

he wants it to

How can i `run_init` to /dev/loop0 that is made of a cramfs file?

sorry, tor should (should not it?)

it doesn't
i don't know of any instances in debian where running one init script in turn runs another

jelly, http://rafb.net/p/6O8ldn68.html
jelly, here

if you want, you can put commands in /etc/network/interfaces to be run when eg. eth0 goes up or down

I usually can read DVD without problem. Just inserting it and then I got ask what I want to do with it. I just got a new DVD and it KB3 tells me the DVD player is empty. mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom answer no medium found. Where can the problem be ? (my gf can read the dvd on her Mac)

jelly, here is my ifconfig ppp0 http://rafb.net/p/qdotUu83.html

debian-newbie here looking for a little guidance

and your internet connection works with this route -n?

guys, I'm trying to do a netboot, but I can't get the network device runnig
what's the command to get it up and down?

ok, but could this be specified like: run this if any of wurking network interfaces restarts (wifi, eth ..)?

jelly, yes, this is how my routes look after i start the ppp0
jelly, my normal internet is routed by 10.1.1.1

eg. privoxy should restart after tor, no?

ifup or ifdown ?

that can be done via /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/if-up.d

ah nm

why do you have another default route via 192.168.0.1, iface eth1?

What happens when you add a group that could cause a delay? A script I use returns exit status 6 from useradd and I tried :groupadd -g gid groupname; useradd -g gid -u uid -s /bin/false username" on the CL and I get "useradd: unknown group groupname" but by the time I "cat /etc/group", it exists.

stew there is no if-up.d

jelly, i want to use the 150.162.0.0 ip class via ppp0

I'm getting "Your network is probably not using DHCP protocol. I'm loading debian onto on older (P2-233MHz-256RAM)

IN a console what is the proper pramiter to extract file.tar.gz into a folder the same name as the compressed file minus the tar.gz?, i just cant seem ot get it

jelly, this is my neightboor wifi network hehe

[Jasper-2]: yes there is

wouldn't it be nice to specify dependencies and there restart? (Like start net, load modules and start firewall before doing this?)
I ask only to know your opinion

no stew there aint
that's why I'm asking for different methods, I'm doing a netinstall, via a rarp server
debian web hosting for online images is only 5 mb big

jelly, i want to set my routes to access 150.162.*.* ips via ppp0, but i don't know how

How can i `run_init` to /dev/loop0 that is made of a cramfs file?

~ # ifup eth0
/bin/sh: ifup: not found
see?

[Jasper-2]: what version of ifupdown do you have installed?

stew NONE
it's a MINIMAL install
so there MUST be another way debian does it

[Jasper-2]: what version of debian are you running?

stew, I'm doing a netinstall
of a minimal version of 5 mb

stew my aslsa wont hold chy i try new card?

[Jasper-2]: why are you asking me about /etc/network/ifupdown?

I am not
I asked if there was a way to ifup or ifdown a network device
without the ifup command

well, your route line looks sane, but your initial config does not.
why do you always set up a default route to the free wifi?

hmm, well. i think that the current system of putting stuff in if-up.d and if-down.d is good only in that it is something that happens when you run ifup and ifdown which may happen independent of init scripts
i dont' see much wrong with the current system

i get a /var/lib/dbus/machine-id: no such file or directory problem when i start GAIM, any ideas?

jelly, isn't always, but i use it sometimes, it has more bandwidth than my ADSL

well, mazbe I am influenced bz gentoo

though I agree that once all the init scripts defintaely have lsb headers, some better system than sysv-rc can probably be implemented. but i haven't really looked at file-rc or initng
do you know which driver you are using?
and what do you mean by "wont hold"?

know i dont its deaflt one
have to re fun config each time
get pc sounds on boot

hm. and what's your vpn gateway, that .245.10 machine?

have to re run conf to get sound from pc like radio

jean_, probably, i'm not sure

i'm not familiar with gentoo's init scheme, though i'd be interested in reading about it if you had a link

can you pastebin the vpn config, without username / password?

ok, which vpn config? the one from /etc/ppp/peers ?

stew il look at drivers need rebbot hold on

why reboot?

"expires in less than 18446744073709551614 days". I think I am on the safe side

I don't know, probably.

is there a simple way on the command line to determine if a remote machine is responding to ping which can be used in a bash script?

well, I only tried to use and it seems to be fast (own impression) I will try to search some links …

a lot of work was done recently into looking at how you could speed up the debian boot process, and its mostly cpu/disk bound, that largest improvement would be from switching /bin/sh from bash to dash

Hi All!!

Does anyone here knows a good debugger for multithreading apps such as PTHREAD?

Serial. Trouble is that if I insmod ftdi_sio, it attaches usb 2.7 to ttyUSB0 - usb 2.7 is (what I assume to be) the multimedia portion of my Logitech G15 keyboard. The brltty (braille display…) daemon ends up grabbing the 2.7 device away from ftdi_s

jelly, http://rafb.net/p/KWeP3Z75.html

I've used dash as /bin/sh for quite a while and the startup is still rather slow.

is there any site to get sound working on debian? i'm using a vibra 128 card

How can i `run_init` to /dev/loop0 that is made of a cramfs file?

do you remember who produced the pretty graphs? was it marga?

hmm, I haven't actually seen any of those for Debian

relevant /proc/bus/usb/devices and dmesg stuff: http://pb.marttila.de/147

stew how i paste u list of alsa drivers?

I use something like if ping -c 2 -i 1 some-host; then [ it works ]; else [it doesn't]; fi

jelly: yeah, http://www.marga.com.ar/~marga/debian/boottime/debconf-boot.pdf
/msg dpkg pastebin

right
how i get em stew what comand make em show up?

so, your vpn gateway is in that very same range too. that means that after adding that route, you also need to add a separate route for the vpn gateway back thru 10.1.1.1

cool! the return value of ping is sane!

how do i get my driver list for sound card

run alsaconf

srv1.vpn.ufsc.br ip is 150.162.0.82, so after adding the route for the whole 150.162.0.0/16 thru ppp0, add another one like route add -host 150.162.0.82 gw 10.1.1.1

done that stew

does it detect your card?

no

Is there a shadow file for group and if so, where is it?

!tell erphan about root

they try pinging 150.162.0.82, it ought to work

[GNU]Order: gshadow

what did you mean by "my aslsa wont hold"

i have to run alsa conf each time i want to get sound
alsa store dont hold

but alsaconf doesn't detect your card?

think its sound blaster 16 bit

thanks.

YW

it returns false even if just one packet is lost, my real condition is a bit more complicated but you get the drift

Can 500-1000 TIME_WAITs for mysql port cause a load between 2-3? RAM is fine (no swapping), CPU utilization is 24%… I'm trying to narrow this down, only thing that looks strange is TIME_WAITs

thanks for the extra info, much appreciated

how come i can't tar -jxvf a pidgin.tar.bz2 file?
cannot exec: no such file or directory

what happens when you try?

stew that list pci device comand

aptitude install bzip2
stuart-: ^^
stuart-: not you

it comes up with to outer sound cards

lspci

and then it runs fine til reboot

stew, oo thanks!

does alsaconf detect your card? or does it return an error?

it dects minee

what driver does it say it is going to use for your card?

Do I only want the first cd if I need a barebones etch system?

yes
or possibly a netinst which is only ~150 mb

Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 08)
says my card is that
let me look at what is in case hole one
it doest tell me it does a scan
picks card

Hi

gtk+-2.0 = 1.3.7 gdk-x11-2.0 glib-2.0 gobject-2.0 but I can't find the correct package names…what are they?
(I also need any -dev lib of those)

use apt-cache search
apt-cache search gtk+-2.0
or just gtk+

cteaative labs ct 4810 card

when the card is working, run "lsmod | grep snd" and show us the output; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin

i'm trying to run "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim" to get dependencies for a pidgin package i'm trying to set up. but it says unable to find source package for gaim. any way to remedy that?

stuart-: apt-get build-dep pidgin

use pidgin o_O

stuart-: but why are you trying to build pidgin instead of just installing it?

stew, no pidgin source in my apt-get

stuart-: it's in lenny and sid

stew, do i need a special sources.list line?

Is a user with shell set to /sbin/nologin or a shell that exits right away, able to use scp?
remotely

hey.,. anybody know when the KDE4-beta packages will be available to debian?

stuart-: you can install it from backports.org: /msg dpkg bpo

this script from #alsa might help you get some info…. http://nopaste.com/p/aFihqMSkX/txt

ask #debian-kde on irc.debian.org

hmm okay..

proftpd only listens on ipv6 socket, how to get it working on ipv4 ?

what does "netstat -plant | grep :21" return?

how can I map the usb device number from dmesg (e.g. [88179.644000] usb 2-7: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0) to something in /proc/bus/usb/devices?

no, i don't think so, perhaps look at scponly

steve, tcp6 0 0