rip, but it was very tricky to get running
once running it was really cool though

crap

andrew[andrboot]: If you have a package you need to have working quickly, emerge -e package

lolbots
what does -e do ?

-e … you must be joking
please don't give such random advice

quickly is a relative term

revdep-rebuild will be faster than -e I think, system alone will take 2h which revdep avoids

andrew[andrboot]: the full mzbot command is the recommended way

i never used git before can anyone help me with building the bcm43xx driver for Devicescape stack (mac80211) ? The closest thing to a link i got is this: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-dev.git

DrEeevil ill found out soon bout my lappy currently finishing sync

hi2all
why my CPU (Intel Pentium Dual Core Mobile T2080) is not working with speedstep-centtino
cpufreq driver

kernel config maybe?

5 seconds

i assume he said speedstep-centrino*

@ DrEeevil my lappy is a 1Ghz P4 M(centrino) but it can utilise a 2.6 p4 and a 2500+ amd via distcc

so core 2 duo cpu series use centrino speedstep?

yes, but I'd assume it's an incompete kernel config

ACPI P-states driver should be sufficient, should it not?

andrew[andrboot]: hmm, that sounds acceptable

i was wondernig if there is a seperate speedtep for core 2 duo in kernel

i think there is something in latest
not sure though
ahno those where temp sensors, nvm

one of the speedstep ones is being deprecated and rolled into another driver
forget which one

ah, i see. thanks friendly12345
i dont' have any intel cpu so i dont' really look into it when i compile kernel

I never got it working properly here, whichever daemon I choose.

http://rafb.net/p/KzsC6k81.html

fk
*crapo
DrEeevil i am using a fresh gnome/xorg install. will i have a problem using distcc do you tihnk?

possible, but unlikely

kk

from memory you can only have one driver

i'm loading speedstep-centrino

*Crapola!* … borked "MailDrop Config" http://gentoo-wiki.com/Maildrop_configuration

it works with p4-clockmod

I just replaced procmail with maildrop and maildrop delivers email extremely quickly compared to procmail!

hmm?

yea… guess too many connections… maybe one too many page reloads… having fun editing it for readability

greets. oss sound works ok, but I can't get the alsa sound to work. I get these messages from mplayer:-

wich pkg does libstdc++ belong to?

[AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: dlmisc.c:118snd_dlsym_verify) unable to verify version for symbol _snd_pcm_empty_open
[AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm.c:2108snd_pcm_open_conf) symbol _snd_pcm_empty_open is not defined inside (null)
[AO_ALSA] Playback open error: No such device or address

no sound.

anybody got any ideas? ThinkPad T41

hmm, that looks like a confused kernel

That's possible.

CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ=y was sufficient for me

anyone knows?

who knows

libstdc++

gcc or libstdc++

ok…
libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory — get this error message…why could that be`

hmm
did you play around with gcc recently?

got libstdc++-v3

because there's no such file or directory, it says so right there . run revdep-rebuild

lol

no, it just appered right now
though I got libstdc++.so.5 libstdc++.so.5.0.7

fascinating

revdep-rebuild I will do

DrEeevil qustion,do you knw of any good "movie" authoring programs? and ones that can be used over an network (exporing movie wise)

andrew[andrboot]: no

damn

andrew[andrboot]: cinelerra ?

hmm
i think i had problems with that a while back
ill give it another shot
worth a try

cinelerra requires at least a GB of memory, has a totally wierd GUI.

yea ive a gb

once you are used to it, I believe it produces good o/p

bloggsie i take it you have used cinelerre fairly extensivly?
scsu my shoddy spelling

andrew[andrboot]: You can also make use of clusters with it

hehe i will be picking u guys brains soon then once i get these dvd's ripped

tried it once on an underpowered machine, and got totally confused.

hmm
well this box im on is a 2500+ atholon xp (32bit) 1gb ram, 200gb hdd space, and my serv atm is a 2.6 p4 with 1 gb ram. think that will be enough ?? (i only need to "edit/export 10 min clips and make 1 dvd out of 4-10 of them( ?

for now…

Naib, for now ?

looks as if cinelerra would be overkill for that. Machine spec should be fine imho. have fun!

awesome
DrEeevil for dvd rip do you recomomend xvid exports?/rips ?

dd fwt
s/fwt/ftw

andrew[andrboot]: I don't care much as I don't buy DRM'ed media if I can avoid it

convenience

DrEeevil++

meh

is that a new C command ?
forgot the ; anyway
:p

new command?
new variable maybe, BUT we dont want any more of DrEeevil

I'm wearing my FSF "got freedom?" T-Shirt …

hehe

what!

hmm.. i've noticed nvidia legacy drivers are not in portage anymore but i need them to use my GPU.. they are not merged in nvidia drivers what can i do?

w00t ripping now

the driver ebuilds have been unified again

andrew[andrboot]: since you're going to be editing, a less compressed format may be easier to work with

DrEeevil++

friendly12345 i dont have 40gb's of space… i have liek 80gb max
:p

don't want anymore of you

I don't know the exact details as the drivers fail to work for me, but you should be able to deduce what to use from the ebuilds

dmesg complains about unsupported GPU and ask me to install nvidia-legacy

yes, increasing my quantity is good
yes, you need a specific version

hi to all! In a fresh gentoo installation, is it possible to have only python 2.5 ?
bhi to all! In a fresh gentoo installation, is it possible to have only python 2.5 ?/b

maybe 1.0.7185 would work?

specific*

yes

hi naib

I have on my system

how you did that?
you unmasked python before installing the package?
*packages

I run ~amd64 so yer
only way to run a python25 system fully atm

ok thank you very much

what is wrong with just keywording python-2.5?

cause then you have to keyword the relevant python apps that are python25 firendly and binary apps that are python25 friendly
but you could

true, but most apps should be fine with 2.5

they should, but there was a whole load of bugs that held python25 up and if you emerge one of those version which wern't made python25-ready then FAIL
but yer you can use the package.keyword file
I just find it easier to manage a short package.mask file (for those annoying apps in ~arch) then a long package.keyword file (to get apps I want)

better that than to ~arch a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with python

right now i have kyword jsut python
let's see if something blows up
then i'll keyword each apps that complain

emerge python25
then run "python-update"

*python-updater

then run "revdep-rebuild" (to catch the binary apps linked against python24.so
yup

anyone with it still dark and clear might want to watch the moon for the next while

blood

also with a fresh installation taken from a stage3?
i thought that was enough to unmask python 2.5 before running the update

stage3 is python2.4 too

what do you think?

@ DrEeevil still got hat problem wiht gtk+

and things like portage might not appreciate python changing
andrew[andrboot]: pastebin it please

BelialMkII, it's a nice eclipse

DrEeevil, ill try

as long as python-updater completes portage is fine

i'll rebuild a stage 3
unamsk python
unmask

I can only see it here, in arkansas, to cloudy http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/lunaeclipse2007/mooncam.html and their cam is messed up to make it worse

@ DrEeevil http://andrboot.com/dump/build.log

andrew[andrboot]: Also see /msg mzbot faq remerge-deep

error: no such option: -"

where a portage snapshots contains information about masked package?
i always used package.keywords file
but for rebuilding a stage3 i need to create a customized shapsots

emerge -n portage-utils && grep -vxFf (emerge -qep system) (emerge -qep pango) | sed -rne '/^\[ebuild/{s/(^| )\[[^]]*\]( |$)//gp}' | xargs qatom | awk '{print $1"/"$2}' | xargs emerge -1
that is correct ? yes ?

Hello, I am using ssh with socket feature to do not reautentificate again if I have a socket, but I can only to do max 10 connections, any idea?

andrew[andrboot]: dude … you're suffering from an incomplete expat upgrade

DrEeevil i sync'd and "remered xpat
wtf do i do ?

andrew[andrboot]: yeah, try revdep-rebuild

DrEeevil thats what i am doign

gtk falls over horribly and dies
right

and it crashed out
then i "manuallyed" tried

see /topic

glad my music is keeping my sane atm
i noticed..
rofl

mzbot has a rather magic command that should work
if that still fails you could try emerge -e world, but that will take some time

DrEeevil i take it | means a new command?

acpi-cpufreq works if i load speestep-lib

andrew[andrboot]: in general no, that's a pipe

i mean the msg that mzbot gives me

mzbot, teach andrew[andrboot] pipe

No such faq

okas

pipes connect the output of one command into the input of the next

runs teh big command
*me
man ssh is a life saver lol

Hi! I just learned that Mozilla supports the jar protocol and thus can browse the contents of a jar file. I thought this would be great for e.g. java-sdk-docs, compressing a 291M dir to a single 53M file. What do you suggest I do with this idea? File an RFE in bugzilla? Start a forum thread, and
if so, in which forum? Or anybody here interested in discussing this?

does that maybe break other ways of accessing documentation?

Sure does, Konqueror and Opera e.g. can't handle it. So it must be a configurable option.

is ther some peice of virtual instance i can run gentoo on but have it regged to my router nic ? so i can do samba from my pc ?

bugreport might be worth a try

cuz qemu virtualpc vmware etc all have a virtual network

is there a good way to unmerge all gnome pkgs?

On the other hand, there might be pagers out there that can't handle bzip2, and still we bzip2 normal text documentation unless the admin says otherwise.

i remember running colinux with tunetap direct on real network

OK, will write one.

but colinux causes bsod on this vista :$

@ DrEeevil that command started an emerge with 36 packages.

sounds like you want port forwarding
andrew[andrboot]: ok, that sounds good

not really

kk will keep infored ^_^ thnks heaps btw

most virtual applications to run an os in have allso a virtual network … i just want a virtual mac connect to real network
would make things way easier
i did that with colinux on xp to

ah, that shouldn't be hard to do

Couldn't you bridge the virtual network to the real network in the host system?

VMWare does something like that I believe

so that the virtual instance gets an ip from my router … how do i do that ?
it worked with colinux and tuntap

What is your host system?

vista
i need to run gentoo
but this pc is incompatible with any os except vista

The client system inside the VM is of no import, as long as it gives you a virtual network with your other network cards in the host.
uThe client system inside the VM is of no import, as long as it gives you a virtual network with your other network cards in the host./u
So you could right-click on this card and look for some menu entry saying something about bridging.

try VMware. I run VMware on (linux) hosts, and it supports network bridging. your virtual VMware NIC will get an buy dedicated ip from your router.

kool thkx
im downloading vmware workstation 6 atm

server is free in terms of charge

I can't get compose keys to work. xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/hLGo7e19.html , using xfce4

really ?

yes
its even in portage

wow

you just need to grab a serial from vmware.com

what you're looking for is network bridging, that should do the trick

thkx mikem MvG_6 renihs

VMware server is in bad need of a refresh/upgrade though

howso ?

i followed this once to set up vmware server:

I can't emerge mysql-5.0.44 because of a "portage patch failed to apply (ltmain.sh)"

i followed this once to set up vmware server: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_VMWare_Server

erm, its just emerge vmware-server
then start the gui :p

there's also vmware kernel modules i think

ya its a dependency of server :p

anyone who can give me a tip how to unmerge all xfce packages fast?

surprise surprise :p

still good to read through the doc, it'll remind you to re-emerge the kernel modules after a kernel upgrade

ARGH DrEeevil still crashed out

forgot my bashing

I can't get compose keys to work. xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/hLGo7e19.html , I'm using xfce4. it worked fine in gnome

You are likely to run into quirks with kernel 2.6.19 (and newer) as guests/hosts

maybe if i just piss gtk off ? and t ry a reemge :p

xdr, for bla in `find /var/db/pkg/xfce-* -name CONTENTS|cut -d/ -f5-6 `; do emerge -C =$bla;done
me wins for ugliest approach :p

thx

That was pretty ugly

whats quirks ?

friendly12345, yes :p
and dumb, but should work

it does

@ DrEeevil follonwing mzbot's idfea
aww crap 120 packages
oih well
its raping my entire network
so meh

the VMware site may have a few of them documented. Things like sound issues, etc

switching to windowmaker again

is there any sort of confcache replacement? i used it back in the 2005.1 days … but 2007.0 doesn't seem to have anything similar

is it dead?
any tip on a similar windowhandler?

well no longer worked on

It never really worked correctly

it has some known fatal bugs, as noone is able to fix it it has been retired

nvm about the compose key, I was pressing lwin instead of rwin

you got a tip on a similar windowhandler?

openbox is nice

so there's no replacement or equivalent?

hello everyone, i cannot make sshd work, i'm new to gentoo, could someone tell me where is the sshd's log?

as long as it works for you, it is not necessary to switch

I just did emerge -uD world and kde3.5.7 installed but
now its broken
fatal sever error no screens found
where do i start?

does "X" work by itself from the command line?

ideas appreciated

eix -I expat
What version?

ok i just removed .xinitrc
ran startx
and nothin
hmm

doesn't look kde related. you X server is not working

that sould have run twn ay?

yeah i said X

yeah

if you use a recent X server, try to rename/move your xorg.conf as it is not necessary any longer

so emerge world brok xorg maby

Do you have eix?
That's a now

eix

*no

um shoud I emerge that
emerge eix

emerge eix && update-eix && eix -I expat —–what version of expat

oh

Reported this jar java hosting documentation idea as bug 190496, and it has been assigned to java. Let's wait and see.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/190496 enh, P5, All, Martin.vGagern@gmx.net-java@gentoo.org, NEW, pending, Support html documentation comrpessed into a jar file

?

i don't have eix

emerge eix
this is very handy tool

yup
hldon
ok im emerging
emerge eix && update-eix && eix -I expat

whats eix ?

so if i remmove xorg.config (don't worry ill mv it someware) might that fix things?
spose id have to Xorg -config
or whatever
generate another one

does anyone have an idea on how to set up a gimp-print/guttenprint printer in CUPS?

no, current xorg java server hosting works completely without xorg.conf (most of the time, that is)

I can't print with gimp

does windowmaker support transparencu?

oh wow
is that like just in ?
like did xorg 3 mnths ago do that?
(stable tree)

it was introduced in xorg-server-1.2 or 1.3 I think

when did that go stable
i wouldn't have a clue on version nubers

hi

"eix xorg-server" will show you which versions are stable

exthingey installed
2
2.0.1
wops
sorry

/msg mzbot faq expat
Follow the listed instructions

I set up a gutenprint setup the other day. After emerging gimp-print with the foomaticdb USE flag, it worked pretty much out of the box.

ok thanks

CANON and EPSON, guess which one I have

hi at all..

all isn't here

But..when a program say that there's a bug..What should I do?

Both? Neither?

deleted xorg.conf
didn't fix it
(well moved it actuall)
oh gta go

MvG_6, HP?

maybe your VIDEO_CARDS in make.conf is wrong and xorg did not build the correct drivers?

work in that past

You might still try top add the printer manually, even if it wasn't automatically detected, or at least not correctly.

only after emerge of new kde
(even if unrelated)
oh gota go
thanks guys
will come again
and will /msg that thing
cheers

Unable to copy PPD file!

Not nice. You could have a look at some cups error logs if available, see if you find any details, but this looks like more trouble than I experienced.

cups error logs, where?

to set a package heavy masked, i must changed a setting in the ebuild?

/var/log/cups* I'd assume, but I haven'd cups on the system I'm working at right now, so I can't check.

wonder if I should run twm

doit
wmii is good

ok then, is there some way to print a graphic is such a way that no rescaling is done?

No space left on device"?

hi

someone there??
ok bye

?

waou
one user of gentoo!!?

one person to reply who uses gentoo yes

cool

but a netsplit occured __epsi
so be patient

i am an old user of debian
i decided to use gentoo few days ago

old user as in 70yo, or used debian for some time

used debian for some time
3 years
i bought the dvd live gentoo 2007.0
and i have some difficulties

ok

I do not have the network in my home

like?

the problem is i decided to use gentoo in order to compile host my libs

so you went for the DVD to have some of the pacakges on the DVD?

and without network it seems impossible
yes i have some package
but i do not know at all how to use them with emerge or portage
i look at the doc on gentoo.org but nothing without network?

in the handbook (sorry never used the DVD for package-sourcE) there should be a section telling you howto mount/use the DVD source
give me a second i will look, I have seen it before

ok
I do not want to use ebuilds i want to compile all on my computer (like gnome)

o.O
that is what ebuilds are for
they are just an auto-recipe for compiling it all

?
excuse GRP packages
I do not want binaries

there are only a couple of binary packages in gentoo tree, and they pretty much all end in -bin
eg:

how do I set a specific lingua for one pkg?

mozilla-firefox-bin

linguas map to USE-flags, look at the ebuild

gentoo is not very friendly to users who do not have network connections. but it can be done. at the very least, you'll need to download (1) a stage3 tarball (2) an up-to-date portage tree snapshot tarball (3) you'll also need to run emerge -fpv on other packages you need for the installation
to generate a list of links for downloading.

in package.use?

Please read the documentation on gentoo.org (including the handbook) and don't troll

he isn't trolling?

thanks friendlyxxx

he is asking some reasonable questions

with you sure that gentoo will come more and more used
ok bye
thanks naib

no. the USE-flags for linguas are usually calles linguas_X where X is the language code
s/calles/called/

trolling probably wasn't the right word.

there use to be a very simple (couplw commands) to use the tarballs from the DVD (well there was when I first install Gentoo back in 2001)
but that seems to have been removed

GRP is dead and buried. there is the graphical installer but it's not officially supported and I am not entirely sure as to whether it can truly operate without an Inernet connection.

mmm

it's not actually that difficult to pre-fetch the required files, but some advance Gentoo knowledge helps.

well suppose you could add a distfile entry in make.conf to point to the DVD disk __epsi
that should mean it will look there for the files

the main thing is getting the kernel sources/patches, and distfiles for the various tools that one typically installs that aren't present in a stage3 (syslog-ng, vixie-cron etc).
and it needs to be spot on.

oh yer, just use the -f option, but he has the DVD, so some of the install files and packages exist

I'm not really familiar with the layout of the DVD.

They really should kill GLI and bring back GRP imo
it was much more useful

yes but mplayer install "wrong lingua"

Where can I find the standard config-files that come with the emerged application. Stupidfingers hit 2 and deleted the update and .. well, I wanted the updated conf file

Re-emerge the packagew with –noconfmem - there's no other way afaik (other than digging files out of tarballs)

what line did you put in package.use for mplayer, and can you give more details about "wrong lingua"

oh, found it in the CVS/SVN trunk to hehe *smacks self*

also, if you use dispatch-conf, it will keep a history of all config files changes

If you use dispatch-conf instead of etc-update, you can isntall and enable rcs archives, which means you get a diff history of all changes seen by dispatch-conf. See the dispatch-conf man page and gentoo-wiki.com (an unofficial, user-editable site) pages for more info

yeah, saw that.. looed at the forum for a while, but couldn't seem to find the conf file wo. reemerging so had to ask before I tok that upon me

linguas_en is in package.use

most times you can keep the old cfg and look thru the diff in etc-u, but upgraded from apache 2.0 too 2.2 and was supposed to overwrite the old cfg.. (cos my manual crap for each module is .. well.. moved out of that file)

to one line of package.use reads like "media-video/mplayer linguas_en -linguas_se" or similar?

yes

and you have still "wrong lingua"

hope not
will come back if it's that way

anyone has an idea why is that only the half of my pidgin system tray icon is visible? here is the pic: http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1595/taskbarad3.png

How do I use a patch on a package that's in portage?

what you mean?

Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1638: Called dyn_compile / Called qa_call 'src_compile' / Called die. Anyone has idea about this build error?

use it on your own sources?
too little info… further up

isnt that enough
?

i'm trying to set up moc (music on console), but AAC isn't working despite my correct USE flags, etc. someone on the moc forums posted a patch that he said makes it work… so I want to patch the package. How do I do it?

Can anybody give me a little help with updating Portage, please?

Set up an overlay and then copy all the stuff over. second, modify the ebuild in your overlay. 'epatch' command is your friend.

what bugs you?

unpack' is your friend as well.

how to copy paste build error messages?

use pastebin website

or emerge nopaste

ok

I'm right now installing gentoo2007, following the online documentation. After chrooting to the newly installed environment I updated Portage with emerge –sync

unpack, patch in /var/tmp/portage…blabla, then run a make and make install manually

but I recommend patching the ebuild.

oi.. this is a c/c++ question. it's possible to use #ifdef _WIN32 to detect windows. Is there something similar for linux? like _LINUX ?

i will paste it on pastebin but cant copy from build messages

in console?

yes

you got the console-mouse service running?

yes, on fluxbox
currently using xterm

highlight and paste it

ic

It worked alright, and when it recommended me to update Portage with emerge portage I did so. Afterwards it told I'd have to update some files in /etc

no Ctrl+C right?

we need the error from the compiler

middle-mouse \o/

And here's my problem, I don't know which files and how to update them

one moment arturo_on_rails

doesn't seem reasonable…

that's fine. just run etc-update

#ifndef _WIN32

dispatch-conf or etc-update

but I wouldn't worry too much about that.

Okay, it sounded really essential
Colors and all

chithead, i'm aware of that, but it's to be used on 3 os's (win32, linux, macosx), so i need to know if there's some for linux..

i tried putting the patch in /usr/portage/media-sound/moc/files and then adding an epatch line to the ebuild, but then i got an error saying the filesize of the ebuild didn't match the recorded size. is this the correct method?

yes it is. Go to the gcc website

manifest to recreate the MD5 checksums

It told me that emerge –help config or something would tell me how to update, but when I entered that it just told me that the use of config is deprecated (sp?)

"deprecated" is spelled correctly.

kay, thanks, no native speaker here

better use an overlay for that
next –sync will wipe your changes …

I'll try the etc-update then?

akahn: You're using an overlay right?

so, make a dir in ~, tell make.conf where that dir is, put the ebuild in there, ebuild moc.ebuild digest, emerge moc ?

#ifndef _MAC seriously, from a porting perspective, linux is not that different from eg. Solaris/BSD/whatever, so you can treat them all the same

yes, that's the strategy … just the details may be slightly different

what do i need to copy over, just the ebuild?

yes, but you have to put it in a subdirectory that reflects the category name

rigth

if there are patches in the files directory, copy them over as well

there are, i'll do tha

is there anyway to locate a package wich depends on qt/kdelibs?

i'm going to try unmasking the 2.4.2 before i try this though, maybe AAC will work correctly without a overlay and special patch in the newer version

what exactly are you looking for?

equery
*could* be what you are after
or eix

but I don't have qt/kdelibs installed

if you don't want kdelibs, put it in package.mask and portage will tell you which package depends on it

ha one way of doing it!
problem with that way is it will only show the first that FAIL

thx

well hey just upgrading to the masked 2.4.2 of moc worked fine

hey guys how can i change the group as which apache2 runs ?

thx btw

hi

why would you want to do that?

DrEeevil, because i have a group called www which is for all vhosts and i want that group to be used by lighttpd and apache
and i dont want to reinstall confixx

but would re-installing confixx be simpler?

isnt that just a simple option somewhere ? as which group apache2 runs ?

hmm, that's suboptimal

it is in the apache config file tho
Group nobody
oops

Hehe