i'll give it a whirl
the first time i installed i used a different install procedure that used genkernel, i'm wondering if i don't have support for my vmware grafx

doubt that's it

well, i didn't have any video cards or input devices specified in my make.conf
just checked. the gentoo.org x86 quickinstall skips a lot of steps, i should've used the wiki one again

yeah, it does skip a lot

anyway, should I re-emerge xorg-server now that I set those options in make.conf ?

yes
I don't know if you need to re-emerge anything else, but I know that's one

emerge or emerge -u

i have FEATURES="userpriv" and my ebuild that uses subversion.eclass to check out something from svn complains about not enough permissions
/usr/portage/distfiles/svn-src is root:portage owned
is this a permissions problem or should i change the ebuild?

how safe is upgrading linux-headers from 2.6.17-r2 to 2.6.21? 2.6.21 is stable? i ran into a couple of compile errors after upgrade

I'm using 2.6.22 with zero problems
with 2.6.21 headers

21 or 22? my kernel is 21

vladsharp^2|busy: /join #gentoo-dev-help ?

ah thanks

btw, downgrading fixed the compile host issues. so which version to use?
17, 21, or 22?
do i have to recompile other packages after i upgrade the headers (except glibc)?

someone use azureus?
someone know how to cancell pop ups?

is there klips-support in the gentoo-sources (for openswan)

wiki ctx144k openswan

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_OpenSwan_2.6_kernel

reisio, ok, that i have done
my kernel has the right options compiled in
i need to connect to a cisco-machine with a preshared key
ipsec__plutorun: …could not start conn "foobar"
i have no idea why…
ipsec verify shows me the correct values like it that sample

How do you disable swapping?
(temporarily)

swapoff /dev/partition

Is commenting out the /etc/fstab line enough?

no, that will work on reboot only

if you'd reboot yes

/dev/sda2: Cannot allocate memory
That means I don't have enough RAM to store all my swap or what?

hi, what's the pkg name for pgp?

gnupg

ah, thx vladsharp^2|busy

vladsharp^2|busy: swapoff: /dev/sda2: Cannot allocate memory
any idea?

could you post output of
cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal && swapon -s

1028172 kB
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sda2 partition 1967952 981716 -1

hmnn then close some running programs perhaps?

I am back to 621824 only used memroy.. but still cannot swap off

1028172 methinks

but Used shows 621824 now
Is there a way to see how much mem is used by programs

in console, use "top"
if using kde, ksysguard is rather nice
in top, look for VIRT RES SHR columns
for virtual memory, resource memory and shared memory usage respectively

what's the benefit of using lvm2?

sys-process/htop is a nicer version of top

hmnn guess i should try it

top does not show process ordered by memrory
it does by cpu %

htop does

ok, emerging

http://packages.gentoo.org has been down for a while, when will it be available again?

it seems this displays by thread, not process

?

I have 8 lines for firefox-bin for example

atop?

Hey, I have some trouble booting gentoo since I added a SATA drive to my pc

are you using the /dev/hdaX or /dev/sdaX syntax for root=?
and have you updated your fstab?
@sfxa

hey
I havent created a partion on this disk yet
I only have ide drives bise that one sata

so where is the problem? when booting up with the kernel? or trying to use the drive?

as I plugged in the drive gentoo didnt boot anymore
before that everything went well

have you got an error message?

!google hardware sata site:gentoo-wiki.com

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_SATA

no just a bliking cursor

is the cmos trying to boot from the sata ?

no. the first boot device is my ide drive

how do you start wpa_supplicant with iwl3945? i get nothing but errors, it keeps running tho', but wpa_gui says it can't connect, tried both eth1 (wmaster0 but it's renamed to eth1 by udev) and wlan0_rename

wpa_supplicant working oke here on a ipw3945ABG never seen a iwl

works fine on my ipw3945 too, there's iwlwifi in portage (masked tho') otherwise look on intellinuxwireless.org
new driver doesn't need binary daemons (eww yucky ), it does use firmware tho', but honestly i don't care much, more cards do this

CareBear\, hello again

Well hello. How did you know I was active?
Two can play the whois game I suppose.

CareBear\, i guessed
CareBear\, how are you today?

Many things to do, not enough time.
Yourself?

CareBear\, oh, what a bummer. what are you up to?

how to know if my touchpad is a synaptics toutchpad?

Entertaining a customer, and putting together a CV for a new assignment.

CareBear\, i want to continue on trying to get my computer to boot, but i don't have that much time either _
CareBear\, what kind of assignment?

aren't they all? :p

Systems development? :p A lot of documentation that needs to be written after the fact for a system to meet certification needs.

CareBear\, i see
CareBear\, well, good luck with that

Thanks.

how to automatical do "modprobe lp" when the system starts up?

reisio, don't know…. are they?

I thought so, at least virtually - but I've never actually had to set one up, so don't quote me on that :p
linux-laptop.net can probably tell you

place lp in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6

dmesg'
usually detected by the kernel mouse driver
you'll also want to emerge the x11-drivers/synaptics package as well

friendly12345, ok… I'll try
friendly12345, I'm doing it cause the scroll and the "click and drag" is not working

how do you start wpa_supplicant with iwl3945? i get nothing but errors, it keeps running tho', but wpa_gui says it can't connect, tried both eth1 (wmaster0 but it's renamed to eth1 by udev) and wlan0_rename

hi, is there way to detect when the user changes virutal consoles (e.g. presses CTRL-ALT-F2), and to then respond to that change by running a script of some sort?

what is the best remote desktop server to emerge on gentoo?
and easiest

emerge the synaptics package then man synaptics —will tell you what to add to your xorg.conf

friendly12345, hum…. ok! thanks

er let's see…

I like VNC
emerge tightnvc
tightvnc

yeah I've heard good things about tight

I have wpa_supplicant set to start automatically

you can certainly determine whether someone is in a console when they login

my X doesn't redraw when I flip out to a text console and back, leaving me with a black screen

hmmz perhaps ps -Af or something will show the entire commandline

If I leave a terminal open, is imply type in 'xrefreshENTER' and it's back
I want to automate

my /etc/conf.d/net is just modules=("wpa_supplicant") wpa_supplicant_renamedwlan="-Dwext"

how're you flipping back?

CTRL-ALT-f7

oh and I also use ifplugd

hrmm, I wonder why it doesn't refresh itself

wpa_supplicant -B -ieth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext

do you logout of the console before you switch back?

not that exciting, but doesn't work. build iwlwifi myself tho' from the website using the mac80211 from the 2.6.22-gentoo-r?

could put xrefresh in ~/.bash_logout

no… when I start, I start into a text console, and start X using startx, I normally flip to console 1 to check error messages (from a program I'm writing)

not sure how best hosting to do that
but there probably is a nice way
maybe something with /etc/inittab

hmm check the man page for wpa_supplicant.conf - syntax may have changed
use the iwl3945 in portage,

2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -n -l /usr/local/sbin/autologin-reisio 38400 tty1

no the .conf works fine with the ipw3945 driver, it only contains essid's, passwords etc for the networks to connect too

man agetty, maybe

no no wpa_supplicant syntax

yea will try that

cool thanks, will check it out

ah actually I guess that might just be for login/logout :/

*wpa_supplicant syntax not wpa_supplicant.conf syntax

even that works fine with ipw3945 i start it manually when i need it
i'll try the ebuild for iwlwifi

ps shows wpa_supplicant -Dwext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -C/var/run/wpa_supplicant -W -B -irenamedwlan -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant-renamedwlan.pid
I seem to remember a reported bug on the forums that wpa_supplicant may, that's *may* not work manually with the wireless stack
only auto

i'll fiddle with a bit thx

I'm surprised wpa_supplicant works at all using Wext with the latest kernel

oh just one more q are you using 0.5.8 or 0.6.0 (i had 0.6.0 but then it got masked)
why? wext is what should become the api for all wireless cards
afaik atleast….

0.5.7

heh even lower k thx

no, wireless extensions is being deprecated

really? so what's the new api going to be?

it's a new wireless stack, created NOT by Intel

can somebody help-me? I just have one "Screen" section in my xorg.conf, and only only one "Display" subsection on it… and on this Display SubSection, there is only 1280×800… but it still being loaded using 1024×768!

? mac80211 is the stack, wext is the driver api afaik… oh well we'll see way to many api's now

er wext is a stack, not driver I think

hey everyone… if I forgot to emerge –oneshot some packages is it okay to manually remove them from /var/lib/portage/world?

let me guess - widescreen on an Intel card?

friendly12345, wow, exactly!
friendly12345, do you know how to solve?

915resolution

JackD, ?

yup

wait…what i810 driver?

friendly12345, 950GA

sorry
what version of i810 driver

sweet… so world doesn't affect the package db at all, it's just a list of things that should get rebuild when doing emerge world?

anyone knows why stepmania says that all mp3s are "unknown file format"? not even the menu music works (but playing them with mplayer is okay)

AFAIK, for the most part, anyways
ls /var/db/pkg/ and see for yourself

disregard

cool thanks

friendly12345, 1.7.4

if your i810 driver is 2.0.0 you need 915resolution to set widescreen resolutions

friendly12345, I can easyness upgrade to 2.0.0
friendly12345, is there it on portage?

otherwise the newer driver include 915resolution functionality
mzbot, wiki host chjunior 915resolution

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution
a href="http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution"http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution/a

yea, it's ~testing for x86

hmm how about not in bios video modes? i can't run my console at 1400×1050 nor X w/o 915resolution cuz that videomode isn't in the vga bios. which is stupid as it's a laptop with a 1400×1050 screen, so they might as well make that the only bios mode

friendly12345, reisio, upgrading to 2.1.0

attaboy

is there a way to see what installed apps depend on a specific packagE?

reisio, what does means attaboy?

it means good job
emerge -n gentoolkit portage-utils

reisio, hummm good….
thanks

915resolution gives different output for supported BIOS modes with/without 915resolution having been run

then run 'q', or man equery

excellent thanks

eix attaboy yielded no matches!

? it replaces videomodes in the bios with other ones afaik, that's how i use it anyway, i overwrite a 1280×1024 mode with a 1400×1050 one

sorry didn't read that properly

with what program i can open *.ace arcive?

you don't happen to know if they'll fix the framebuffer driver do you? I can't get 1400×1050 at boot cuz it's not in the bios

you're saying the card supports a mode that hacky BIOS querying can't determine exists?

dunno what you mean by that

i have an issue
ever time i wanna use torrent i get a hardlock

again I've misread what you wrote

only a hard reset can get my system back

that's the whole point of 915resolution, to get the full range of supported resolutions

haha you're not smoking pot are you?

and i even got a message saing this is a hardware error

unace

wich part?

yea… oh well.. i just oughtta shoot the bios vendor … supplying me with useless 640×480 bios modes but no 1400×1050

ahaha..no, just tired and watching mindless TV at the same time

status error: status=0×58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hdb is dvdrw

hi all
newbie here .)

Dan it's not gui - if there is something whith gui?

hi. has anyone ever had to move a / partition. I'm okay when it comes to moving /tmp /var /usr etc etc, but my hdd is possible crashing and i need to move the whole partition to another drive

reisio, don't think so

i'va a .bashrc file with some "usefull" alias, but when i logon it doesn't work, what's wrong?

k depclean just broke my gcc

No problem. Just copy and then re-run your boot loader setup.

what wm/de do you use?

reisio G0AC4
reisio sorry
xfce5
*4

4? :p
so ideally you'd want xarchiver to interface with unace

CareBear\, cp -ax right?
CareBear\, and i can update grub, fstab.. anything else need updating?

reisio i have xarchiver but it doesn't open

I've stopped trusting cp. I use rsync -avcO these days. You may like –progress or –verbose too.

yeah that's not surprising, but we can look for a patch for it

hi. i'm trying to rewrite on my apache but its not working, can anyone give me a hand?

twisted_g, dont forget a few required /dev entries or your system wont boot when they don't exists and before udev loads

ok so I edited my make.conf to specify a video card and input devices. i re-emerged xorg-server, and now Xorg -configure still takes me directly to a black screen
and i can't get out of it

:/ http://xarchiver.xfce.org/dev.html looks like the principal dev is on an open source horsey
maybe we can find a 3rd party

i gotta reboot

i have plone on http://myserver:8080/mysite and i want just http://mysite

anyone know if this video card is supported with ati drivers? VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)

hidrogen, if anyone here doesn't know.. also try #apache

thanks grknight

bb, i don't think so.. but that should be in the r128 driver

cool cool

ace was actually pretty popular when i was like 14 (14 years ago )

thanks CareBear\ , grknight
grknight, how do i know which dev entries are not created by udev?

Hi, I want to reinstall a kernel using chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash, but all time using rm, or chmod I see chmod: cannot access `./unifdef-1.20/make-tarball.sh': Function not implemented, any idea?

twisted_g, you need at least /dev/null, /dev/console, /dev/tty1 and /dev/zero to be safe

you mean when you type 'rm something' it gives you that output?

is there a standard way to emerge a package without stripping debugging symbols?

FEATURES=nostrip

rm -rf linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8_old
cannot remove `linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8_old/CREDITS': Function not implemented

add the debug USE flag?

kojiro, FEATURES=nostrip emerge foo ?

not all time, but yes

that and if you're on 32-bit x86, make sure you don't have -fomit-frame-buffer in CFLAGS

Do you have any idea?

kojiro, hm well i tried, how can i quicly check whether debug symbols are actually present in my binary?

I dunno, maybe scanelf or objdump can tell you

kojiro, ah yea, objdump -t looks good

did you mount proc and dev?

proc not sorry
now, seems to work, but trying to compie unifdef I see this warning, checking whether the C compiler works… configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs., any idea how to fix it?

hi, does anyone know what packages has the smb:// protocol kioslave for konqueror? mine says that smb protocol is not supported

heh, it's a bad day, huh

hehehe

you need to set the samba use-flag

bin/sh: scripts/basic/fixdep: No such file or directory
using make trying to compile the kernel ;P

grknight, alright thanks

thanks, do you know what packages specifically?

are you sure you mounted everything before chrooting?

i don't know exactly…
probably kdelibs and kdebase i guess

okay, i don't have time to compile those now, but thanks. (only one hour of batteries left) i'll try smb4k

or mount the shares, if you've got smb or cifs support in your kernel and samba installed

smbfs

nadar ist aus dem Uahlahub wieda daah! bin fix ueber hamburg nach paris geradelt

mzbot, teach nadar german

Fuer deutschprachige Unterstuetzung wende dich bitte an #gentoo.de

he's just another /amsg (ab)user

hi i was wondering what can i do to announce myself on a dhcp network… like on windows it would happen automaticly if you set tyhe hostname ? the windows box is vmware.loc i wish to have my encoder box annouce itself as encoder.loc

ach ihr knickers, ihr seid ja so verknöchert wie die toitschen peamte
und wech

teach nadar about german

Fuer deutschprachige Unterstuetzung wende dich bitte an #gentoo.de

just set /etc/hosts ?

hkBst, that would be locally i want the windows box to see the encoder box automaticly something todo with NIS or search or some setting i am not aware of
and the ip addrsses change
so it would be pointless to change hosts files on the boxes

fran, that's netbios which can be handled a few ways.. samba does that by itself though

i did mount -t smbfs //tuki/SharedDocs Tuki/ and the dmesg|tail error: smb_fill_super: missing data argument

grknight, what is the easy way of doing on a backbone encoder box

fran, doing what? share files?

no

fran, if you mean just tcp/ip, then you need a local DNS java server hosting to dish out names to numbers. it can be a linux box or a router

ok i have a network my own pc, a vmware box, and a encoder vmware being windows 2003 server. when i set it up i set the hostname to vmware.loc .loc being my network domain. didnt change hosts files or anything and the encoder saw it on vmware.loc automaticly… how can i annouce myself on the gentoo box to be visible by vmware and my localpc as encoder.loc

Windows uses lots of different name resolution methods.

grknight, i have a dhcp box. but i dont want to go configure it everytime i add a box. it happened automaticly with windows

hey everyone… I'm curious how emerge –clean works. I thought it would unmerge all my useless kernel sources, but it doesn't. why is this?

One way is to just set up samba.

surely fedora linux has the same functionality

fran, DNS is the best way.. samba is a backup way though slower

CareBear\, i believe samba is a bad option being bloated and useless to me

ok well i got x running

of course just run a dns server!

Yet you want the functionality.

but i notice that i installed gnome-light and I have no gnome sessions defined in /etc/X11/Sessions

CareBear\, surely there is a kernel build in function

No, there is not.

flithm, read above about what i said about a dhcp server

Certainly nothing in the kernel.

im pretty sure there should be a way

First you should investigate what it is you really want to accomplish, the technical details.

i know what i want

hi. I'd like to shape the IP traffic going to an ip address host address (as apposed to a device, such as eth0). Is that possible?

err sorry I meant dhcp server

fran, dhcp has very little to do with name resolution

and i have made it clear what i want already
grknight, wrote the wrong word

sorry I think I jumped into the middle of a conversation. I'll stay out

It will probably be either to register with a DNS server, or to answer to NetBIOS name lookup broadcasts.

dhcp_eth0=("nodns nontp nonis")
one of those should be changed
and it would happen automaticly im sure of it

The former can probably be done with several different DHCP clients.
The latter requires samba.

CareBear\, samba is a network share system
i do not require or want it on my box at any point

No, not quite. It's a lot more than that.

fran, the two methods win* mainly uses are NetBIOS (which is part of samba) and DNS

i think you want to use samba's winbind, that's what does windows' netbios name resolution

smbd (which does file and printer sharing) is just one of the programs in samba.

is there something i can use to measure hdd activity?

there should be a smaller version of sambas winbind then
does anyone know

fran, the most flexible way is to just emerge bind and set it up

I use gkrellm2, but there's plenty of options

grknight, this is a corporate firm
it would be a bad idea to randomly make dns servers

I do like gkrellm2 for that too

Others are nmbd (which is what answers NetBIOS name resolution queries) and winbindd (which is used by your system to do name resolution the Windows way)

hello there gentoo folks…I have a strange problem…grub can't start my windows partition because of a minor error in my grub.conf
the problem is
my grub conf is gone :/

mount /boot ?

mount /boot

mount?
ill try it

I think you could benefit from reading up on samba a bit. They have really good documentation.

anyone here have a macbook running gentoo?

Look into nmbd in particular.

CareBear\, samba is the most commonly haxcked software application on linux
i dare not install it

o thanks! can someone now explain what the heck I did

um

CareBear\, i currently have 7 0days for samba

Then it's settled.

nod

to just fetch the packages but not build them, i do 'emerge -FuDv world' as root right?

You must be really elite.

nopers

why did I have to mount /boot? and from where did I do it?

for a system update

just invormed

PrincessKhorde, /boot isnt normally mounted during startup

a-ha gnome-light doesn't come with gdm

anyone here have a macbook running gentoo?

i'm a unix beginner so I'm not well familiar with how the system works

elite, 1337 muhahahaha
good day all

"and pump send the current hostname to the DHCP server by default so you don't need to specify this anymore."

It is not really correct to say that gentoo is hosting on unix based servers

but I already had the boot folder in /, but when you mount it…from where do you take the data? doesn't / show all files on the computer

linux != unix

unix-like system

mount attaches directory trees to the main tree (/). Your fstab file says that /boot is some particular partition.

oh boot is on another partition!
thanks hkBst

There may be other technical methods to achieve what you want of course.
Other than the two I mentioned.

i hope so

But those two would be the most common.

hey all, emerging xsane complains about needint sane 1.0.0 or newer, but I have sane-backends 1.0.18 emerged?

my pleasure

hi guys. is there a few step process to setting up an install cd with my own wlan drivers?

But, again, please look into exactly what it is you want to achieve (in technical terms) and ask again.

i tried to tell you

I read "I want name resolution to work"
But not much about the details.
Which are important in order to give advice.

for your own use? DO you have trouble installing?

Well you "just" need to make your own kernel.

well, I need to put some wlan drivers on a CD so that I can use my SMCWUSB32 card
and I have to compile my own wlan drivers to do it

Which hardware is inside it?

compaq presario v2410us
but the wlan card is USB

No, it was last. What's inside the wifi thing?

anyone have any experience with gnome-light ?

ohh I remember compaq presario are great monitors

yup

i'm having problems startingx with gnome after installing gnome light and I'm wondering if I NEED gdm or if I'm just doing something wrong

i'm still using an MV740 from 2002

i seem to be missing the gnome session in X11

i have another question, with what command do you kill jobs? in solaris at school I use ctrl-c

prism2

but it doesnt work
only the ctrl-z command works

um…
Ctrl-C _does_ work

You shouldn't need to make your own drivers for that.

prism2_usb, but I need to add a line to the wlan-ng source code to get it detected
because it's only supported by wlan-ng under an edit

it does? it works sporadically for me PeanutHorst… when I use man shutdown for instance..it only works when I've reached the end of the file and sometimes it doesnt even work there

that's because 'man' is an interactive command
some apps will intercept C-c

oh ok

like vi, emacs, nroff(man), bc, irssi, etc.
for man, use 'q'

in solaris it didnt seem to be like, atleast not when I used putty from home

man is not running nroff "to" the user - that's less.

each time i used ctrl-c in a "man job " it worked

Or whatever configured pager.

for vi, :wq, for bc, 'quit', for emacs C-x C-x

What is the preferred email client among linux users?

mutt, pine I think

Up to you. I like mutt. Many like Thunderbird or Evolution

thunderbird?

matter of preference. IMO 'Pine' is pretty solid on the CLI
for GUI, Evolution

pine has a real problem with large mailboxes though.

Ok, thanks. I'll check them.

(10k+ messages)

For geek users, cat

I do use less to read mail sometimes.

cat aint geeky

so, you are a geek

this is true

cat displaying text on screen is a side effect of its implementation

lol

not its actual purpose
you should know that as a "geek"
:p

well, let's see if the wlan card works
brb

lol PeanutHorst

i really can't talk, emerge is being a bitch to me, but i know linux userland theory relatively well

do i need fix_libtool_files.sh if i upgrade from gcc 3.4.6-r1 to 3.4.6-r2?

I'm all ears (aka .. I'm listening to you) whatever you write

i seem to have a problem
that has reared its ugly head

:o

AFTER an experiment with enlightenment DR17

smg, nope

which i cleaned up after

okay

(because i was using overlays and stuff)

experiments are always bad

burkhardth@horst-tla ~ $ sudo emerge -pFuDv world 2&1 | tee emerge.log
output is at http://rafb.net/p/Kdm4Fk76.html

dude what is happening with qt-4.3 and gentoo?
(x86 architecture)

and gcc-4.2 ?

well said

come on please don't do that I compiled 3 times qt-4.3

I guess you made an error with creating the overlay

"creating" ?

first qt-4.3 then -r1 and now -r2!

i used Gentoo's

PeanutHorst, have you used layman w/ -k option

didn't know how

the directory is /usr/portage/xeffects/ not xeffects/trunk

bug 188209

https://bugs.gentoo.org/188209 nor, P2, AMD64, nils@ohlmeier.de-bug-wranglers@gentoo.org, RESOLVED, DUPLICATE, qt-4.3.1 fails to compile hosting on amd64 with gcc 4.2

ok
layman -k didn't do anything
was I meant to give it a further parameteR?

yes but why does this affect x86?

you are using layman right ?

i honestly don't know
well, yes i am

I dunno, do you get a different error?

how did you create your portdir anyway ?

but it's complex… i think i nuked some of my overlays when i emerge –synched

overlay*

I've got a server that has had a super high load average for the past day. i've restarted everything running on it and it still is sitting at ~20. What kind of things should i look for when i do a 'ps aux' to figure out why?

using the instructions on the wiki for installing Compiz Fusion

It usually sits around 1-3

No I don't mean I get an error. I said that I compiled qt-4.3 3 times in 3 days! Because of -r1 and -r2 I was curious about it that's all

http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/Overlay

top ?

can someone tell me how a normal user becomes able to mount? isnt that possible?

PeanutHorst, y (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_xeffects - check green line)

/etc/fstab

top and use "" and "" key to sort column

I_R_Baboon: I used svn co

isnt that only for booting?

for the xeffects stuff

ah, I see well, check the changelog

ahh

but that isn't the problem

so you are not using layman
I told you already what the problem is

the problem is i have a bit of enlightenment dr17 muck stuck in my portage somehow

yeah.. i've run top.. but most of the stuff i see there has been restarted

add users group at fstab for the partitions you want to mount and add your user to group users

you add "user" or users to the mount options in fstab

evas and ecore are part of enlightenment, and they are what are stopping things accoridng to the output of emerge
and i know for e17 i _DID_ use layman
but the portdir_verlay is no longer in my make.conf for that

look at this

+qt-4.3.0-r2.ebuild:

Patch wasn't applied in previous ebuild revision due to a typo.
how funny

PeanutHorst, ok my bad (in that case -k does not apply). Santanabaer is right (overlay is xeffects)

2 hours of compiling due to a typo

heh

hey everyone… how reliable is emerge –depclean? It says I have 400+ packages to remove. Should I believe it?

try first emerge -DuN world
and then emerge –depclean

did the DuN world, and now doing depclean

please do: less /etc/make.conf | grep PORTDIR_OVERLAY

then a revdep-rebuild

my initramfs is hosed… can I boot a livecd, mount my root fs, and run update-initramfs?

haha right

flithm, serious

Santanabaer:
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/portage /usr/local/portage /usr/portage/xeffects"

sorry I know you were serious I was laughing because I couldn't imagine not doing a revdep-rebuild after that

how many packages do you have?

flithm, just making sure

hmm ok that is correct …

1458

christ

*nod*

yeah I've been running a single gentoo install for like 6 years without ever cleaning it up

then do it
I have 500

flithm, you could always 'less' through them and make sure its nothing wierd

true eh
it weird me out a bit because hotplug is in there for example… don't I need that?!

flithm, I don't have hotplug, but not sure

flithm, hotplug/coldplug are dead and replaced by latest udev

1 sec I'm checking my configs

ahhh cool… this depclean actually is smarter than me nice

I know coldplug was, not about hotplug

I don't have hotplug

PeanutHorst, PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/portage /usr/local/portage /usr/local/portage/xeffects/trunk" maybe ?

…..
that isn't the flippin' problem!

well here goes nothin

I know what the problem is

http://rafb.net/p/Kdm4Fk76.html ahh noo ?

i have explained it
I do not know the solution however

so what is the problem?

flithm, good luck and let us know

the problem - if you looked at the output of emerge instead of the portdir cruft - is that bits of enlightenment dr17 are in my dependency tree somehow!

thanks!

when they shouldn't be, i might add

Hi, I am trying to use a backup using tar cvfzp usr_bin /usr/bin, but when I use this thar on other sistem, the symlinks are not correct, it uses a empty files with no permisions instead, any idea?

we looked at the output of emerge

yeah…
did you notice this bit?
Calculating world dependencies -
there are no ebuilds to satisfy "=x11-libs/evas-0.9.9".
(dependency required by "x11-libs/ecore-0.9.9.037" [installed])
!!! Problem resolving dependencies for x11-wm/e
!!! Depgraph creation failed.

of course I have the entire log under my eyes

pastebin

http://rafb.net/p/Kdm4Fk76.html

any more than those five lines and i would have

thats what he showed before

My new hard drive keeps sounding like it's constantly seeking all over. Any ideas how to get rid of that?

ignore line 1 of that paste for a while then
because i know it is not the problem,

You solve that by using bugs.gentoo.org

/usr/portage $ echo */evas
*/evas

hey all, emerging xsane complains about needint sane 1.0.0 or newer, but I have sane-backends 1.0.18 emerged..?

… i have about 4 hours to have this … fixed… all I need is someone who understands the enlightenment dr17 overlay and portage
CareBear\: um… echo just repeats what's on screen…

Well we know portage well enough, but I don't know what issues there may be in the overlay.

" serious vulnerabilities in OpenBSD's Systrace, Sudo, Sysjail, the TIS GSWTK framework, and CerbNG…bypasses access control, virtualization, and intrusion detection in under 20 lines of C code consisting solely of memcpy() and fork()".

actually my guess was that evas belongs to the xeffects overlay

well it doesn't

hi all, could root have a .bashrc?

oops wrong channel

it belongs to dr17

bash does wildcard expansion first.

then you should add the dr17 overlay

ADD it?
but i want to get rid of this cruft!
ok, i'll go find where i dumped it

do you want enlightenment or not ?

could root have a .bashrc?

Yes

sure

yes i do

the standar gentoo-wiki doesn't help you?

i don't understand why for me don't work

I remember I got it to work but without overlay

for normal user it work, but as root not

How do you force bash to refresh it's file location cache?

Portage may need to build a dependency graph even if you are going to remove stuff. That means you'll need access to the overlay.

i'm not using Beryl

.. /etc/profile usually does it for me.

i'm using Compiz Fusion - which is still only in subversion
CareBear\: ok…

yes

ok, i am doing the overlay thing now

good

is there a way I can alert myself when a service stops?
mysql seems to be stopping all by itself

CareBear\: Perfect, thanks, I wonder why source clears it though

Yeah. I haven't investigated.

hi

hi Reaver_

does beryl remove direct rendering?

No

for some reason I'm not getting direct rendering with my user account, but I am with root.
the only difference I can see is the user has xgl and beryl

hypertransport sync flood error
Press F1 to resume
anyone know what that could be?

I ve never seen that before

reboot

your motherboard acting up

i got it 3 times

TheLorax, xorg.conf (last lines dri 0666 blablabla commented ?)

my comp is like 2 months old

Reaver_, sounds like a bios error

google it
is your computer over heating?
can you go into bios and check?

i did try to google it without any results

have you overclocked your CPU at all?
changed the clock frequency or core voltage?

has anyone gotten rdesktop to connect to Vista?

i did do a bios update through windows though

thankyou, it is working now
should i use emerge -FuDv world , or emerge -fuDv world ?

Reaver_, sounds to me that introduced the error

"emerge -uDav world" no f or F

no..
I want only to fetch the packages
so i can make use of my off-peak time
to avoid wasting bandwidth
and parallel fetch is limited in what it can do
but which F ? the f or the F ?

f, F will grab stuff for other arches and all use flags…
unless you want that

yeah, my smcwusb32 wasn't detected by gentoo

f.

and unfortunately, the gentoo install cd didn't load the bcm43xx firmware for my internal wlan device

did you install already? any other cd which supports it?

what cds support it?

ty hkBst

hey all… i'm having an issue with the Nvidia drivers on a GeForce 8400M. the drivers work ok, and i get 3d etc, but upon logout of X i get a full system freeze
any suggestions or pointers on how to resolve this bug?

What's a system supposed to do when running out of physical memory and no swap is present?
I just had this and the hard drive light started flashing indicating high I/O, and the computer froze

The OOM handler in the kernel will kill off some process to free up memory.

where can I get the latest development sources for gentoo?
I want to see if it works in that

I could move my mouse only every 5 seconds or so

That is called thrashing.

why did you disable swap?

CareBear\: is that normal?

did you install already???

(this behavior)

no
nope, didn't install yet

I disabled swapping because I wanted to diagnose a performance issue

no

Yeah, it happens. I get that sometimes too, and I actually prefer it over OOM-kill most of the time.

I need wlan to get the install files

CareBear\: how can you prefer that? I had to reboot…

well, don't absolutely need
but I don't feel like it's worth all that effort

try one of the cd's here: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?pkg=linux&pkgver=2.6.22.1#pkgsearch

Then I can set up swap or manually choose which program to kill - rather than the OOM handler killing off something I have not saved in a long time.

the system was so unusable that after 2 minutes of waiting I just rebooted. I would have prefered to have a process killed

you can use any cd which recognizes your hardware and install Gentoo by following our handbook.

CareBear\: doing anything with the computer was absolutely not possible.

Hi, would it be better to use vanilla 2.6.23 or gentoo-sources 2.6.22 w/ the CFS patches?

No typing in a terminal, no nothing

sorry, that link is no good

* ERROR: cannot start netmount as net.eth0~ could not start

I have tried gentoo rawhide's setup cd
at least, I think I have

I've gotten that too. And if the kernel is left thrashing it does get worse, so I can usually avoid it by reacting quickly when I see the symptoms.

Hmm, in my case, no quick reaction was possible

Killing the wrong process is worse than a reboot, for me, though.
Anyway.

As soon as it went over the edge it basically started spinning infinitely it seemed.
What I was surprised about is that the hard drive started trashing

I'm not sure when the OOM-handler will be invoked and when not.

why would the OS start using the hard drive if no swap is there??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrash_(computer_science)

trick question?

is there a way to reload my permissions (in this case, the groups that I'm in) without logoff-login ?

No

newgrp bash
newgrp groupname
sorry
will start a new shell as groupname

anybody have experience with nvidia drivers?

CareBear\: Hmm, I see how it can happen

Might as well login then

For example if the OS tries to load a file from disk but does not have the RAM to load it into, right?

There is no way to change the current bash groups

then it will reload and reload and reload the file for ever

No it will terminate the program trying to load

Well, in my case it did not.

Depending on the memory manager it may retry and retry, trying to do clever things with the RAM in use.

Unless the program has special handling for when the OS tells it there is no RAM availble

DoYouKnow, smcwusb32 uses linux-wlan-ng i think (not sure)

hum…..

Anyway, going out of RAM on my system is basically a disaster… I reactivated swap.

joshwest, what is your problem?

You must be loading something that makes a seriusly big RAM allocation
The kernel autokills random programs when it runs out of memory

It's not random AFAIK.

yeah, it does

And I'm not sure "run out of" is so easy to define.

brb

The memory manager may try to optimize memory usage in order to free up more space, that would make the call succeed.

I've run out of memory plenty of times over the years
There is a difference between being out of memory for a program and out of memory for the kernel

Yes, so have I, but I haven't seen consistent behavior.

CareBear\, bye

The kernel does not accept being out of memory and fixes it.

Well we're talking the system as a whole here.
That's a good point though.
kmalloc() will trigger OOM-kill
Whereas malloc() may not.
Until the kernel needs more RAM.
To do something.

There's a problem

I always run out of kernel memory, I've yet to see a pure malloc error, or maybe it's happenign a few seconds/hours (if we are dead in swap) before it crashes

The kernel never kills an application because brk() fails.
But libc may. And the app may ignore libc and retry brk().

I can't emerge java-sdk-docs-1.6.0-r1 with USE="java".

Anyway, you can be proactive with all this by using ulimit

why not?

Heh, when you first start using ulimit you learn a thing or two.

because its masked

Yes I was using a program that made a 300 MB allocation when it started trashing

here's my log file. but I forgot where to put online

thrashing - note the h

ok

http://www.rafb.net/paste/

has anyone ever used the Dell open manager server update utillity on a gentoo system

It's a Java program with the memory option… that may be special, I don't know

sounds scary

Aah, automatic trash memory managers.

maybe.

i just want to update the firmware of the raid controller

http://rafb.net/p/qWwRWo65.html

Did some time with lua, had to teach all of the WoW community that just because it's automatic doesn't mean it has brans and you still need to program to take advantage of a trash language

I'm frome Taiwan.

what's the WoW community?

Took me half a year to enlighten the community before there was widespread memory programing technique changes
World of Warcraft uses LUA as scripting language. LUA is open source. www.lua.org

the doc use flag pulls in those silly packages that are fetch-restricted. Either you disable doc use flag or you fetch the sources for dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.6.0-r1 and dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.5.0-r1 manually

ha, Lua for World of Warcraft. funn
y

I recommend the first option

But that has little to do with your issue a 300 MB allocation doesn't involve the trash recovery system

you may only need to disable it for dev-java/sun-jdk

And besides Java has a better trash system afaik

I don't know. All i can tell you is that I have 1GB physical RAM, had swap disabled
RAM usage was already at 850MB or so

hi all

i dont get mergedfb to work. any ideas where to start?

then I loaded a Java program with XXXmx=300m
and… bam!
whole system froze
After waiting 2 mins I rebooted.

Hrm, weird

I think I can reproduce that consistently.

I've several questions about the package management system.

ElvanorAtWork, you should have waited longer, it takes about 5min for my OOM killer to come up.

I already had this twice.

I can't 5 GB RAM is hard to use up.

maybe but seeing the hard drive up was freaking

gogogo

so I prefered to reboot

how large is the portage tree?

Around 200 MB I think

any suggestions on a DNS server….is bind still the way to go or is there something thats equivalent but easier?

Thats the portage tree itself without packages and distfiles

with distfiles that must be easily over 50 GB

eclean distfiles is your friend

http://rafb.net/p/CXNC9863.html

so if I run "emerge –sync" it will download the 200MB tree?

I usually just do a cd /usr/portage/distfiles && rm *
no

No, it will rsync it
That means downloading changes

I like to keep my distfiles =P It gives me a good feeling knowing I have the source for all my apps =P

eclean distfiles isn't rm distfiles

even for the first time? after installing gentoo from cd?

sinsarrummzen thats what the internet is for they can hold the source somewhere else for me

does anybody here have any experience with anjuta 2.2?

the first time you install a portage snapshot, so you already have something

Miravlix, then what does it do?

man eclean

Miravlix, I did…

remove obsolete portage sources

Miravlix, then I should clarify, I like to have the sources for all software I use and software I have used in the past =P

is packages.gentoo.org down for some reason?

yes, being broken

teach alunduil pgo

packages.gentoo.org is down until further notice.

alunduil, yea =(

ok, thanks guys

what happened with –depclean?

why USE="java" need gcc 3.3.6. I've installed GCC4.20. why I have to install 3.3.6?

Is there a way to extract the action script from a swf flash file? I don't have the original fla file anymore and would like to look at my old code… And also I dont have any flash running..

teach sinsun gcc-3

Some packages, usually pre-compiled binary packages such as mozilla-firefox-bin, are written in C++ and are only compatible with the C++ runtime library provided by gcc-3.x. If this is the case then you can avoid having to install gcc-3.x entirely by installing libstdc++-v3 beforehand: emerge -1 sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

teach arrummzen why pgo down?

No such faq

yup, they're often called "decompilers"

teach sinsun gcc-3

Some packages, usually pre-compiled binary packages such as mozilla-firefox-bin, are written in C++ and are only compatible with the C++ runtime library provided by gcc-3.x. If this is the case then you can avoid having to install gcc-3.x entirely by installing libstdc++-v3 beforehand: emerge -1 sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

/etc/portage/package.use". and then emerge as usual

do I remember right ? did I get from you that script with listing of the non system files ?

yes, that's correct.

apparently the devs fouled up and didn't include libstdc++-v3 in recent installation media

fouled up?

thx, guys, youre really kindness

couldn't that be fixed with the first sync?

No need for c++-v3 for most people

thanks

alright, so I'm not allowed to sync more than once per day to a single rsync server, but is it acceptable for me to do emerge –sync on 128 gentoo nodes if I set them to use different mirrors?

bye all

(once per week).

yeah fouled up, the gcc upgrade guide recommends it, IIRC
's'what I call a foul up

the problem is not that it isn't included (it would be spurious as a base system package), rather that it's not chosen as the default package to fulfil the =virtual/libstdc++-v3.3 virtual.

I would suggest you keep a single local copy.

in fact if anyone ever comes to #gentoo asking about it, I call it a foul up :p

Then you can sync to that.

I really ought to file a bug about it. I've been meaning to for ages.

sure

Trying to boot gennt I see this error on bootsptrap, /dev/sda1 is not a valid root device, any idea how to fix it?

mzbot, teach arrummzen sync to local copy.

No such faq

yeah, I know what you mean :p

ahh cool I am still very thankfull for the script works great I went through the list many times … I imagined the script could have been extended with a equery depends for every package … something like an if case : (show the package if equery depends .. doesnt show any packages in the list ) do you think its possible to do ?

heh

mzbot, teach arrummzen why won't you work for me?

No such faq

teach is a keyword lookup
single word…

mzbot, teach arrummzen sync

/msg mzbot help

SYNC, defined in /etc/make.conf, contains the location of the rsync mirror Portage should use to update the Portage tree. It defaults to rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage but you can change this using the mirrorselect application. A good choice is rsync://rsync.${countrycode}.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage.

there is one running in linux?

it's like in the one hand, you can file a bug, or in the other hand, you can just sit on your butt 24/7 and tell someone how to fix it every now and then for eternity :p

if you want to play with the bot, please do it in a private window

local means internal in your LAN.

Heh, the help is just about as usefull as trying to open Windows

I can't think of any flash decompilers for linux… not that I've really looked

hey, at least I am telling people how to fix it. I wrote that entry.
reisio:

there are disassemblers, but I don't think they output AS
a flash decompiler for win32 would probably work inside Wine

If you're root on 128 machines that should be a breeze to set up.

yeah I found some dumpers and analyzers.

heheh

the truth is, I don't know why it isn't chosen as the default package to fulfil the virtual on gcc-4 using profiles yet. I'd like to know why and what the solution is before filing a bug.

I think you want to set up a local rsync mirror: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gentoo+rsync+mirror&btnG=Search

ok, I try to get the win32 thing in this case…

also, I don't use gcc-4 so it's a bit tricky for me to test fixes

yeah, it's always nice to avoid the first comment being 'bug closed invalid, you suck, newbie'

haha

I keep forgetting, what' s the app name for generating random password again?

still, regardless of the technicals - there _is_ a bug somewhere

hmm. I'll put stow that one away and consider it later. I have to get back to work now.

kio, pwgen is one

cat
place cat on keyboard

apg

thx cahoot

I see, that should work.

alright hey its great that you help me so much

We have a virtual that depends on gcc-3 or libstdc++v3

didn't know apg, but thx mtnbkr

I tried to write the extension myself = I failed

ok

We seem to lack the feature for selecting the prefaired dependency in ebuilds
Doesn't seem buggy to me, just a Columbus Egg

yeah, check itout. lots of options to custmize the type and length of passwords it generates

it's a bug, because if they'd installed Gentoo a year ago and updated following guides, they would have libstdc++-v3 and gcc 4 right now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus

and wouldn't show up here puzzled
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Juan_Ponce_de_Leon

looks like your article got deleted

btw … guys … do you have an idea how I can delete the qt designer and the assistent off my system … I dont know which package is responsable for it
I never ever installed them … they came automaticly

how do you know they are there?

because they appeared in my xfce startmenu

I've fixed everything on gentoo eccept net.etho it still won't let me start apache2 or netmoun.
netmount

I know I use qt because its a dependency of many other applications … but I never wanted the qt designer and the assistant

and if you click the menu item?

There has got to be a fix for this?

Fix for what, your not providing any error

if I click the menu item it opens of course

then you probably just need to unmerge it

* ERROR: cannot start apache2 as net.eth0~ could not start

run qfile (portage-utils) on the executable to determine its package

ahh
thats interesting

*** glibc detected *** /bin/sh: malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0×00000000007b3a80 *** - any ideas?

* ERROR: cannot start apache2 as net.eth0~ could not start

Stop trying to start net.eth0~
You polute the rc system

wwhat do I do then?

Never seen anyone do this before, so not entirely sure how to unpolute the rc system. perhaps /etc/init.d/net.eth0~ zap

Bad RAM
Or buggy code, produced by crazy CFLAGS
But my money is on bad RAM.

memtest86+ to confirm a case of bad RAM?

argh

well I'll try anything now.

anyone know of a handy usb image to boot memtest86?
does the gentoo live cd's have memtest on them?

check the memtest hp I think they have boot imqages

prompt

Yes.

thx

memtest86 even

Ill be back in hours

something like that yeah
i'd suggest something newer, though.

oh I found a 2006.something
seeyas!

/etc/init.d/net.eth0~: No such file or directory

make it then

anyone here using eclipse with gentoo ? I got a question about jdk/jre versions needed (it loads more then I guess I need)

How do I show package dependencies ?

or equery g package

#gentoo-java

hkBst, thanks

ironfoot495, cd /etc/init.d/ && rm -rf net.eth0* && ln -s net.lo net.eth0

This is what the win32 flash decompiler says in wine: "This program has been damaged, possibly by a bad sector of the hard drive or a virus. Please reinstall it."

He needs net.eth0~ not net.eth0

hmmm ok I assume the qt assistant and designer are part of the use flag qt3support

s/ironfoot395/I_R_Baboon/

I am re-emerging qt now
hope that they are gone then

which one?
(decompiler)
equery from gentoolkit, or q from portage-utils

which one is depreciated ?

mmm, portage-utils is hipper, but it's worth having them both

if I had to learn one, which should it be ?

you don't have to learn just one, though :p

3 qfile

thats why i was just saying hypothetically.

You make it sounds like your choosing between being Einstain or Doctor Do Little

Miravlix, o_O

they do different things and things differently
just get them both and enjoy :p

But also
3 revdep-rebuild
so do get both

vim or emacs, gnome or kde,

Do both

Sara Jessica Parker or Hillary Scott

www.flash-decompiler.com. It doesn't find fd.dll

maybe you need fd.dll, then
who's Hillary Scott?

it was just a demo anyway (w/o actonscript export). need to ask my donkey..

look it up.

that's a strange thing to be
if you give me a copy of the SWF, I can decompile it later and get it to you

uhmm, genkernel all it modifies my /boot/grub/menu.lst ?

There's a topic in here somewhere… we'll find it eventually.

ah, don't know her, but she's less than a month younger than me, that's far out :p

if you have the time: http://www.nyk.ch/avi/nyk.swf …but the donkey had many decompilers to try in wine..

the donkey :p
well I have a winders system I can reach via RDP
and another upstairs
will leave you a memo with a URI, later

thanks!

is there any idea for the future to split the huge OO into nice little parts like it was done with kde?

Hi! How do I find out the ebuilds that depend on ebuild X? A reverse variant of qdepends, so to say…

I guess this is not gentoo s decision

can somebody help-me? http://rafb.net/p/dzjH2H44.html

hello

you should go to an OO channel

could it not be arranged through an ebuild?

nah … since the ebuild downloads a source
and the source is given by the openoffice website
so it is up to them to split it

yes, thats the next place im going to visit

If you want to pursue that, file a feature enhancement request on bugs.gentoo.org.

does it make sense to ask there ?

But more than likely, it's something you will have to take charge of yourself.
Much more so there, than here. This channel is for supporting Gentoo, not changing it.

of course

fyi, the official openoffice channel is #openoffice.org

probably right, i was just wondering or asking myself whether there is already something like this going on
shutting up

Searching bugs.gentoo.org would also be a good idea.

can somebody help-me? http://rafb.net/p/dzjH2H44.html

but thx however

but since he is talking about OO split … I guess bugs.gentoo.org is the wrong place too … infact lets say from the example of the change from xorg-x11 to modular xorg … it wasnt a change done by gentoo …

try looking at http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4169275.html?sid=8dafcc6300e86db05024cc4256bfbc15

Your plea for help does not include a statement of the problem and what you've done to try and fix it.

someone can help-me, df show to me erroneous space on disk: http://rafb.net/p/Qr9drK23.html

How is it erroneous?

see http://rafb.net/p/Qr9drK23.html

If you're dealing with a large number of files, file system overhead can account for a lot of that.
Particularly, a large number of small files… such as what you'd find on /var

also if files have been unlinked but are held open by a process

is /var, and I remove about 2G of files from he
but he not shows these 2G free

chronos That happens if some program still has the 2GB files open
philw++

lol

hum

The answer is qdepends -Q

I'm using a multilib profile on an AMD64 system, I'd like to know if there is a way to *force* a package to compile as a 32bit binary instead of 64bit.

Compile it from a 32-bit chroot and binpkg it?

I notice that some applications compile by default as 32bit. like Wine. Which makes sense, since not all apps work on 64bit yet. but if I need an app to be 32bit, and there is a 64bit build available, it will automatically use the 64bit build.

hello

hey

Is that really the only way?

chjunior, i gess your x fails to start (have you changed monitor? have you tried Xorg -configure or xorgconfig?)

I don't know if it's the only way. Just one option.

I tried using keywords to do it.. like -* x86 .. but that didn't work, I imagine it's because the keywords are just there to tell you if a package supports a particular arch, once the package is downloaded, the arch it compiles to is determined by the configure script.

I_R_Baboon, yes, it's failing…. and no… I don't changed my monitor…. I still using the notebook's LCD

not the keywords.

in fact hame some files opened
files that I deleted

I suppose the only way would be to pass options to the configure script, but can I tell emerge to pass options to it?

I_R_Baboon, some idea?

chjunior, where are you from? Brazil? Anyway try reconfiguring X

I_R_Baboon, yes, brasil….
I'm trying….. =/

you changed xorg.conf some time later?

And I'm not even sure the method I suggested would work, to be honest.

hm..

chronos, I_R_Baboon X working again!

hum, right

there has to be a way.. i mean the whole point of multilib is to be able to use apps that are either 64bit or 32bit..
and i have both 32bit and 64bit compilers.

when i try to mount

chjunior, "help-me" - "ajuda-me" lol

see, lsof shows my opened files http://rafb.net/p/j1GGKr58.html

I_R_Baboon, wow, really

maybe i have to edit the ebuild or something.

I_R_Baboon, but I think that help-me still right

/etc/init.d/syslog-ng restart
Or maybe even just killall -1 syslog-ng

chjunior, "help me" anyway it doesn't matter (this is not an english grammar channel)

But I'm not sure what syslog-ng does on SIGHUP

hum, this server is running on production …
restart syslog … hum

Advice in here is dispensed without warranty. If you need professional support for a professional environment you should get a contract with a company.

I_R_Baboon, yeah yeah…. you're right

To be completely honest, noone in here really cares what happens to your production system.

when i try to mount a samba share with a normal user it says "cannot mount on /mnt/share: Operation not permitted smbmnt failed: 1". my /etc/fstab entry is like "//ip/share/ /mnt/share smbfs notauto,user 0 0" does anybody have a clue?

restarted
I assume risc

I_R_Baboon, but thanks to "help me" with my english too it's always good to get improved….

;-)
I'm not admin of this server, and not have one .

greetings all

syslog-ng should close off all it's files on SIGHUP so that would probably have worked just as well.
I hate to break it to you, but if you're the only one with root - you _are_ the admin.

i have a usb controller i want to use for gaming. how can i tell if my system even knows how to read the controler? and whats a good NES emulator that allows u to have a controler?

y in the kernel for sata to work properly ?

CareBear\: I'm not only with root
CareBear\: thx for help.

Yes

cool

Welcome.

rebuilding kernel

good bye

Now does one display a user's CUPS print quota?
s/Now/How

hello

'lo
wiki controller

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xbox_360_controller_on_Linux

wiki game controller

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Compile_a_Kernel_Manually

wiki usb controller

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_XPS_Gen_2

:p

my icewm doesn't start as lacks of fonts like -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*, I installed adobe-fonts-75dpi. so where can I get the fonts needed to start IceWM?