gentoo has far nicer support

whoa - don't know what I did. I was able to get it to fullscreen by selecting gl2, but then my entire X crashed on me

nicer compared to what?

fullscreen video and X sometimes do that

so I should be using fullscreen at all?
*shouldn't

no no
my point in saying that was to set your mind at ease
that is a common bug
not like super common
but invariably anyone using fu….
fullscreen mplayer and X will occasionally run into it
BAH

damn! did it again in double size
I think you were about to tell me something and I got dropped…

but invariably anyone using fu….
fullscreen mplayer and X will occasionally run into it
BAH

yeah
my point in saying that was to set your mind at ease
it's a common bug - not really common, but invariably using mplayer fullscreen and X you will occasionally run into it
oh whoops :p
sarts++

so is it a bug with mplayer? Would it work fine in kplayer or any other?

it's a bug with X and fullscreen video, AFAIK

I meant mplayer only?

granted, I'm no expert :p
if you're nice to them, it won't usually happen

Ah, thanks

if you're trying to task between your desktop and fullscreen video like crazy, it might get confused and freeze

nice to who?

to get kdm to load on boot, would I just rc-update add kdm default
?

mplayer and X

it can be safer to start a video playing in a window, and just hit 'f' if you want it fullscreen

yep

no

oh
:p

/etc/conf.d/xdm
you only add xdm to your runlevels
xdm is not just a DM, but also X's DM usage backend

right… that was it…

You have to edit /etc/conf.d/xdm at the bottom and make DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"

what is afaik

then add xdm to default

ty fiveflat

as far as I know

bbl

thanks for the help! I'm out…

folks!
Do I need a world rebuild after upgrading to glibc 2.6?

85 done, 30 to go…
4 * sarts is watching his emerge xorg-x11 passing
^

http://wklej.org/id/fa4510d6ae
Huh.
Next problem :/

? gcc upgrading

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
a href="http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml"http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml/a

Alright and just one more thing. I would like ndiswrapper module loaded auto on boot, would I just add: ndiswrapper to : /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ?

really shouldn't be running ~testing if you can't answer that question yourself

I have a problem with dev-perl/TermReadKey-2.30 leaves east error to me GCC-config error: Could not run/locate i486-PC-linux-gnu-GCC that I can do?

reisio, just wanted to make sure that it was required before actually doing it
was hoping this time it would be painless

?

WaR^DoG: mmm, paste your /etc/make.conf and the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo somewhere
WaR^DoG: rafb.net/paste

ok

hello guys, yesterday I left my computer working (emerging gnome) then when I return I see it turned off… (I have a laptop) can someone tell me why it closing itself all the time?

_nightw0lf^: having temperature problems?

modern hardware turns itself off if it's overheated, but it could be something else

the make.conf
http://rafb.net/p/vUOMyX51.html
a href="http://rafb.net/p/vUOMyX51.html"http://rafb.net/p/vUOMyX51.html/a

sarts, well I hope not.. how can I check it?

hmm

!google hardware sensors site:gentoo-wiki.com

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Sensors

after installing, and rebooting what is the default user that is assigned?

syslog?

clear

root
:p

i can't chnage my passwd.. ger

sarts, when I touch my computer from behind I feel warm tho (I know it sounds gay )

and the cpuinfo http://rafb.net/p/R1xTWh50.html

ask a question and change your nick, nice

_nightw0lf^: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THR0/temperature

did you use the installer or follow the handbook?

you might want to do a modprobe thermal'
;-)

92 C

http://wklej.org/id/05cd40e768
Can You see this X log?

_nightw0lf^: that would be bad

handbook, an i'm using a new client with different interface so my nick changes

what is the most common or best music player now a days sense xmms is old

the handbook explains how to setup an initial user

afaik, they don't make consumer-cpu's that are designed to become that hot.

mplayer, since forever

i just need root access..

audacious is a maintained fork of XMMS, though, you might like it

sarts, any advice how can I make it cooler? its a laptop

There are a number of alternatives depending on what you're looking for. I prefer amarok (KDE based)

vantage, rhythmbox for t3h w1n
:}

Ok I'm trying to get my ndiswrapper module to load automatically on boot, however when I added it to modules.autoload, it didn't work

_nightw0lf^: gently screw it open and clean the dust from the fans.

Exactly what file did you add it to?

you might find there is no airflow between the fans and the cooling-block on the cpu.

- /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 AllenJB

sarts, I'm afried..

it is the build log http://rafb.net/p/VX7RCo97.html

(don't worry about breaking anything, just remember that when it does not come off you missed a screw)

sarts, there should be some fun system that connects to mobile computer and cool it no?

Check the output of "dmesg | grep ndis" to see if there was any attempt to load it at all

WaR^DoG: not sure about that one, hit up bugs.gentoo.org

there are, but if this is what i think it is, it won't wotk in this case.
do you still have warranty?

hum
ok

ok maybe it was loaded, however it was never initiailized via dhcp
iwconfig wlan0 essid xxxxxx && dhclient

_nightw0lf^: think of the following: not doing anything won't help your hardware either.

You need to configure the device in /etc/conf.d/net, create the appropriate symlink to /etc/init.d/net.lo (eg. /etc/init.d/net.wlan0) and add it to the default run level. Full details on network configuration are in the Gentoo Handbook
Also insure that you've configured whatever you use for individual network configuration (eg. wpa_supplicant) correctly - as long as that's done it should find the right network itself without being told the SSID

sarts, ok at least I know that there is a temperature problem.. is there option to see other temperatures? i.e gpu , cpu , motherboard , hdd etc..

AllenJB, I just do it manually
I dont fuss with wpa_supp
and networkmanager wouldn't compile

well

Is there a way to get *-sources packages to only keep the latest version?

all your temperature-sensors are located in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
so, you could find THR1 there aswell

I let wpa_supplicant handle mine, which IMO is the easiest way to do it. I can't really help you further. If you look at the network configuration section in the Gentoo Handbook tho, and /etc/conf.d/net.example, you should be able to set the SSID and start your DHCP client from /etc/conf.d/net

_nightw0lf^: when it happened to me, my laptop was scorching the table.

I don't believe so. You should be able to unmerge any version that isn't current by running, for example: emerge -Ca gentoo-sources-current-version-number

hey… a dutch guy.

How do you send a Kill signal to X?
I need to kill my X server because it keeps locking up after my drivers are loaded.
Ctrl+alt+del just brings you back to the problem

/etc/init.d/xdm stop ?

what's the problem?
CTRL_ALT_BACKSPACE kills X

Here is the problem… I can't get to command line

CTRL_ALT_F1

I keep doing CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and I just go back to start 1
And my ctrl+alt+F* keys take me to a black screen with no command line

try hitting enter when you're there

It is my fault… I have a horrible "hybird" laptop that has a switchable graphics card feature.

'go back to start 1' ?
what's that.

Somehow my back switched to the mobo integrated one, and it really screwed up X

exaplin this switchable graphics feature too, please

bag*
not my back, lol

your bag?
what bag

I have a switch on the front of my laptop that lets me go from a GeForce 6600go to a Intel onboard chip
For power reasons

i'm assuming both are onboard the laptop though?

lol… yeah.
One is a mini PCI-E though

hello

Crap. I guess I will need to get a live cd to get out of this problem

oh ok. so you've switched to the integrated one. can you switch it back?

It was a the stupid Ubuntu Studio OS I had on my laptop. I want to remove it and just go with OpenBSD.
orkid, Of course

guys, is there anything I need to know before I start emerging the KDE packages??

orkid, I think switching to it messed it up

Anyone know a good lightweight music player that doesnt need gnome/kde

sumigamer, make sure to do emerge -av kde
sumigamer, And find what you need and don't need.

mellis, what will that do??

no

gentooNub audacious

read the kde section of the handbook first

did you try switching back to the Nvidia using the switch on your laptop?

tdr, kk ill try it, thanks

im looking for some help with a frame buffer issue , 've read up on forums and everything first but still cant find a reason as to why my frame buffer isn't working. so if anyone has some time to discuss, or can point me in the right direction for some help, it would be appreciated.

mzbot, gentoo sumigamer kde

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml

orkid, Of course

you usually want kde-meta

gentooNub, make sure to check out the audacious-plugins package for flags. btw the mad flag fives you mp3 support

i already have the kde packages ( kdeaccesibility, kdetoys, etc.) on a cd…………

mellis, did you try CTRL_ALT_F1 on both the onboard and nvidia?
….

tdr, is there a site I can check to see what all the flags give me?

orkid, No

/usr/portage/profiles/use.*

put them in /distfile
*distfiles

Triffid_Hunter, talking about the ones that arent in there

try it on both the nvidia and the onboard setting, and see if one of them works

hi guys i dont mean to b a problem but does anyoine here have a demonoid account?

orkid, Aha! Switching to the intel one screws it up enough to where X refuses to start… that is all I need. I just need a command line to transfer off my work and get rid of damn Ubuntu Studio

like what?

anyone got a demonoid account

orkid, How is that for a lesson… break it even more in order to get what you want… lol

needing an invite to demonoid
turkiye

Triffid_Hunter, umm looking at 'arts jack musepack pulseaudio sid tta wavpack wma'
Think I know what some of them do but yeah..

not really breaking anything. why would you think so?

orkid, I know… I just needed X to not come up… and I got what I wanted.

anyone here got a demonoid account

topic please

SORRY

orkid, I don't need XOrg to back stuff up. Doing that sort of work is hindered by a GUI.

for U in arts jack musepack pulseaudio sid tta wavpack wma; do egrep -h \\b$U\\b /usr/portage/profiles/use.*; done

eyyub93@hotmail.com

Hey, does anyone know what directory I should install flash in for the Opera browser?

yes. but you can get a command prompt faster but flipping a switch and rebooting to see if it works

the ebuild puts it in /opt somewhere

you can also try 'interactive' boot. hit I when you see it on boot (there are a few lines about Gentoo copyright, and one that prompts you to press I for interactive startup. Then you can start what you want, and not start xdm

orkid, Really though. I tried everything to exit out of the thing that was causing me problems….

That's exactly where it was when I #whereis opera but I wasn't completely sure which of its subdirectories would be the right one to direct flash into.

orkid, I know… this is a laptop with Ubuntu on it. I want to get rid of that junk and get a better operating system. (OpenBSD)

Triffid_Hunter, thansk

equery b libflashplayer.so

just so you know, openBSD will give you no DRI, ie no nvidia binary driver

orkid, I am not a newbie dammit… I know

will do…checking

please. reboot and try CTLR_ALT_F1 with both vid cards, or reboot and go into interactive startup, and do NOT start xdm.

orkid, I am already in command line, as I have said! I have solved the problem.

ok. how did you solve it?

orkid, Using the Intel card. I forgot what it had originally done… it would prompt me with the ncurses X debug screen, and all I needed to do was hit "no"

Thanks man for the record its #/opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins

now, if you want OpenBSD you're welcome at #openbsd. Just know that people there don't take well to newbie questions, and will very often refer you to the FAQ and other resources on www.openbsd.org. ok, good to hear you go that sorted out.

Now I can setup NFS and start clearing off it's data so that I can put a much nicer operating system. And don't worry, who needs 3d Acceleration on a computer you will just be working on…

However, the Flash installer I downloaded from adobe says it doesn't support Opera.

so. i just installed gentoo. and my friends here who are like "omg gentoo is teh amazing" are distracted. can someone tell me how to download a masked package? i know i am suppose to add something to … package.keywords file?

which package?

pidgin

/etc/portage/package.keywords

man portage for more info
emerge -atv pidgin

sweet, thanks man

np homie #12

you have weird friends
but we're all weird here

i had ubuntu on here before but some friends convinced me to try out gentoo. it is pretty hardcore.

reisio" Corp, Inc is not weird
Debian, Gentoo, and Slackware are the only distros worth using
all the rest are derivatives, or are crap (using RPM falls into this category)

makes sense. i will say even though i really like ubuntu (waits to be slapped) it has made me really lazy.

no, what you like is GNOME and Debian :p
and possibly brown themes and nipples

hahahaha
i do like gnome a lot
the gentoo wiki is pretty helpful
heh

only a little

no offence, but compiling gentoo packages is a pain in the ass, and ofte not worth the hassle, especially for a desktop system

tdr, hey is there a ogm plugin for audacious?

hi, anyone running baselayout-2 alpha 4? I noticed something odd with depend net and ifplugd…
If I set RC_STRICT_DEPEND="no", then net.lo should be sufficient for 'provide net', right?

I've just encountered a rather strange problem… I swapped monitors (and changed horizsync & verticalthingy variables in xorg.conf), and now whenever I attempt to login, the screen blanks and brings me back to my kdm

anything interesting in the Xorg.log?

open acpi failed?
ahh

client 2 rejected from local host

everything starting with (EE) is bad…

….with uid 1000, my user
there's no e..
*(EE)
what is that console mouse thing…. wpm?

gpm

console mouse driver?

well, after this emerge sync, I can install that and put the line here
ahh, interesting

/exec -o

should i use -arts if i'm going to try to install KDE or will i be left with absolutely no sound if i do that?

no.
no kde sounds maybe, like those little sounds.
but i use kde without arts. and i use audacious for mp3/etc.
they use alsa, not arts.
in my system.

do i want the little sounds

I might just investigate this a little bit… when I kill kdm, and just try startx I get a (WW) message from the nvidia driver about no matching device section, I'll check that section

imho, arts is evil and must die

no. it's not worth it . arts sucks

Yes i've heard such things… but little sounds!
(apparently gentoo-wiki says to just enable arts on kdelibs and arts and knotify should work properly)

dunno, but if you enable me on kdelibs, i doubt it.

if I have SLI enabled, I shouldn't need a seperate device section for each graphics card, should I?
(in xorg.conf)

kakalto, aren't the outputs on the 2nd card disabled when SLI is enabled?

that's what I thought
as my primary device, and upon starting X, it shows the nvidia logo, then crashes back to the terminal with a warning about the absence of a device section for device
as my primary device, it complains and tells me to use

is there a way to tell the ipw3495 driver to use net.eth1, not net.eth0?

So.. MY mouses 6th and 7th buttons are sending out 2 commands.. any ideas on how to stop this?

wiki gentooNub howto mouse nav

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons

reisio, already done that
thats what got the to send the 2nd msg
s/the/them

Hey.. native english speakers.. is `offer' or `bidding' the correct word in business context?

then undo it
depends on the context :p

hannesd, `offer` probably but i need context

reisio, well I want them to use the 2nd button

i have moved my gentoo installation to another hard drive, which now has 4 partitions, the boot, swap, root, and an extended partition. how do i start using the extended partition? do i need to mount it each time i start up my system?

yes. put there are logical partitions in your extended partition i hope.
you should try to mount the extended partition itself

not?

If a customer asks what the realization of project would cost, what is it what you give him, a offer or a bidding?

'estimate'

a bid

thanks.

if many people are giving estimates publically, it's a bid
estimate or 'quote' (price quote)

ok thanks.

i thought it was usually private.
not public. the bidding.

no, my extended partition is not being used by anything right now. I'm currently using the 3 partitions while on linux, but the extended part is like 80% of the drive, just sitting there collecting dust and i'm running out of room on my linux /root partition, which is why i moved to a bigger HDD in the first place.

if it is binding, it is an offer (not an estimate or quote); on the other hand, estimates or quotes may be either binding or non-binding.
s/not an estimate or quote//
….but offers are necessarily binding.

dude. BID not BIND

ok, so I think offer is the word. thanks.

add the extened to fstab and mount it to /home

an estimate is binding if you cannot take it back. I do mean "bind", not "bid".

ah, interseting. that's what i was looking for. I'll try it out. Thanks
bah, interseting. that's what i was looking for. I'll try it out. Thanks/b

you can take back a bid?
that's odd

you can take back a nonbinding estimate.

ugh, ok folks, topic, *ahem*

a bid can sometimes be retracted, but that's dependent on the circumstances.

hello

'lo woodstock

can someone tell me why my glibc upgrade failed?
http://pastebin.ca/622939

Hello everyone
Does someone know how to make OpenOffice (bin version) take dead keys into account?

replace mtune= with march= in make.conf

"special character" each time I need to insert an accentuated character other than the ones already present on an azerty keyboard…

it's a really weird bug

whoa o_O
thanks

It _does_ see all characters though, it simply won't acknowledge dead keys

you look at the flags from emerge -Opv openoffice-bin ?

linguas_fr is activated
All menus are in French and whatnot, all locale settings are correct
But the dead keys are not there

weird

All other apps have no problem with that

I'd ask #openoffice.org

will do, I didn't know there was such a channel in fact :p

mmmhmmm, complete with ridiculous inclusion of TLD

Maybe it has to do with X configuration, I really can't tell

Hi there
Does anyone use vmware workstation here?

I do - not very often, but I do

I saw that vmware workstation 6 can use hardware assisted paravirtualization such as intel's VT

me too, I'm learning SElinux within a vmware VM

but it require VMI 3.0 in kernel [or something else..]
any hint about this? I didn't see any option like VMI in gentoo-sources

Oh
I use version 5.x, I cannot help, sorry

don't worry.. anyway I am testing mm-sources, because google said it has a bit of VMI… we'll see, I'm reconfiguring this kernel after a huge panic LOL

how cool is vmware, i use it to run gentoo and windows development systems inside my gentoo desktop

I _think_ they're talking about the virtualization interface that was included in 2.6.21

let me see..

xen and virtualbox are quite nice too … vmware isn't open enough

yeah i might switch one day

http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=696400#696400

xen sounds great for servers .. live migration for free sounds impressive

good to hear vmware was quite tricky to keep running for me

i have a mantra when i start, i recompile the vmware kernel modules every boot .. just ’cause it was easier to write a shellscript to do that than figure out wtf is going on with vmware .. being closed source and all, it is broken and i cant fix it

exactly my experience too

is xen opensourced?

usually deleting /etc/vmware/.not_configured fixes it
yes, but the cool managment tools aren't

maybe you warezed the same copy i did

xen is the one who takes profit of kernel virtualization kvm or this is what i've read

nono, I has correct key
no, those two are mostly independent afaict

oh me too! i forgot i paid

ermm … ja … let's not continue that discussion

GPL-2 license, fwiw

thanks… I'll reboot now for testing mm-sources.
see ya

anyone know a good stand alone menu program?

what do you mean?

kicker?

i mean if your using a wm doesn't have its own menu's

just use a basic wm with menus, i recommend fluxbox for simplicity, but others may differ…

on a someone related note, is it very sensible to try SElinux under a VM?
*somewhat

anyone know why libXtst wants to be downgraded? I can't find any relevant bugs

heya, im a gentoo newb a need a little help
after updating portage it said thta two files in etc need updating…can someone please tell me how do i do that?

Hi again. a huge panic (reverted to gentoo-sources)

man portage, it explains a 'find' command that will give you the answer

no reason why you can't, but SELinux is more hassle than it's worth imho

Use a config file management tool - I recommend dispatch-conf, but there's also etc-update and a number of third party tools

etc-update

i ran find /etc -iname '._cfg????_*' and it does list two files….but one of them is an exmple..is that possible?

wiki Slycer dispatch-conf

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_dispatch-conf

wiki Slycer etc-update

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_etc-update

good for testing / learning

See those 2 pages for information on the tools

wow lots of info :O just tell me this then, is it posssible that the system thinks one of those two files it reproted need updating is an example file
it says i ned to update a disaptch thing and a make.comf.example

so it wouldn't greatly affect the security function

yes, they don't keep a list of example files to blindly update

no it would not

make.conf.example is an example file. I'd reocmmend updating it because it's a useful reference

within the vm no, but since the outside machine isn't as safe it's a bit silly
but for learning to use it it's very convenient

hmm, might try that myself then, just to say how painful SElinux is

dispatch-conf atleast will remember files contents after the first time you've update them, and if you tell it to in /etc/dispatch-conf.conf, will automatically update unmodified files

the tools tend to be a bit cryptic

very, good luck

looks to be odd syntax more than anything else

is something that's like a chain and ball attached to your nuts cryptic?

great thanks guys

heh

and when updating etc files i should "auto merge all remaining files" ?

/odd/quirky syntax

another question about xen, doing an emerge -p xen, it requires xen-sources, but do I have to change my current kernel?

I have a different perspective there
yes

personally I got fed up of having to log in twice to make changes to the system, and sel randomly killing off processes
heh, I take it I don't wanna know

question - suppose i switch out my CPU to a differnt one so i have to change my make.conf (so my CPU goes from say prescott to dual core). do i have to rebuild all my packages?

you don't have to

that's the price of paranoia

well if it is Core (not 2) Duo, you might have to use cflags as prescott anyway

ah

yeah, unfortunately I consider uptime of daemons a security issue too :/

is it a good idea to recompile everything or does it not matter at all?

just using PIE and SSP on a desktop system caused some random process killing, software is insanely insecure

does anyone know how I can clean up the "open with" dialog in gnome?some wine installs have really cluttered the list

ha, really? under "routine" activity?

I had less problems with PIE/SSP actually, with exception of bind, but that is a monostrsity anyway :/

flash gets killed with prejudice on PaX-enabled systems
it's getting better, I gave up when gcc was uncompilable

Recompile things for the USE flags (and dependency handling), not CFLAGS. If you're mucking around with CFLAGS for performance reasons (as opposed to ease-of-debugging or such), you're probably not using your time optimally.

not surprising given the latest vulnerability found

okay
thanks

hehe … understand now why I demand open?

yeah, I kinda got off hardened too when it's glibc got left in the stonage and got too old for iproute2 to compile

hmmm is it possible the mesa doesnt actually use fPIC?
prelinking complains about on-PIC shared library /usr//lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so.1
non-PIC

and oddly enough, nobody has masked the effected iproute2 package in hardened (still), or tried to resolve the problem, I got tired of trying to bring it to people's attention
band oddly enough, nobody has masked the effected iproute2 package in hardened (still), or tried to resolve the problem, I got tired of trying to bring it to people's attention/b

gotta do it yourself, eh?

That's nearly impossible as it works on other arches than x86.

is a person doesnt really know what he needs to pick to add to the USE variable… what to do?

gentoo Slycer use index

http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml

rej, hmm sounds sane but it didnt always show that behaviour?
at least at some time in the past it used -fPIC
or had to

mzbot, teach Slycer desktop profile

yeah im reading the same thing in use.desc…but still this is my first time in linux

You'll want to use the 2007.0/desktop subprofile, not 2007.0 itself, as the later is extremely minimalist USE flag wise. No jpeg support is a common symptom. Use 'eselect' to change profiles. You should do an emerge -DuN world at some point after this. ('mzbot: faq eselect profile' for more.)

i dont know what i need

It certainly still did last time I compiled mesa on parisc…

hmm ya i dont mind it that much, just makes prelink so verbose

The only thing I can think of is that you have -fPIC in CFLAGS and it gets stripped…

have a look at that list and the descriptions, if you feel like it's something you might be in contact with on your instaltion, put it in the use flags, for example: if it's a desktop and you'll be watching media files then it's a good idea to add support for different codecs, or if you have a nvidia graphics card then the nvidia use flag is a good idea to include

most home users will want to use the desktop profile, and use -USEflag in /etc/packages.use on a per package basis

does the desktop profile contacin all the things i nned to do everyday stuff?

for grub, do I need that chainloader +1? http://pastebin.com/m1d71e6e5

hello a question that package has glib-config?

WaR^DoG: dev-libs/glib most likely…
WaR^DoG: To be sure, dev-libs/glib does provide glib-config…

see the make.defaults in the appropriate directory within /usr/portage/profiles

are you series with that packages.use proposition? i always had the impression use-flags should by principle rather be set in make.conf than in package.use
serious

friendly12345 is this the correct command ? "ln -snf /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop /etc/make.profile

mzbot, gentoo Slycer upgrading

Has anyone got a hp 5 button mouse working right?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

have installed dev-libs/glib-2.12.11 but I do not have glib-config

I actually don't use the desktop profile myself, have a whole heap of flags in make.conf and a relatively short listing in packages.use

depends on the use flags, I usually set global ones (meaning those which are listed as global in use.desc) in make.conf and local ones in package.use

WaR^DoG: Re-emerge it, then? I have the same version and /usr/bin/glib-config *is* present…

ok

WaR^DoG: As well as the necessary pkgconfig (.pc) files.

it's really a question of which will give the least entries, plus save you time when emerging future packages

ok, that's the way i do it too. still, how would i change my profile?

use eselect

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

welle, there it's conflicting aims. in package.use it will save compile-time, in make.conf you have it all set for each package ^^

you mean for all packages in make.conf

exactly

you can also add -USEflags everywhere –minus sign)

i re-emerge but i dont have glib-config
$ pkg-config glib
glib-config: command not found
that necessary archives of pkgconfig? rej ?
i have glib 2.0.pc gmodule no export gmodules xport gobject gthread

WaR^DoG: Which version of dev-util/pkgconfig do you have?

i'm trying to delete a folder, but don't know what's using it
is there a way to find out

0.21 rej
0.21-r1

ah

friendly12345 im going through that list of use cariables now…i'm im learning to do it im gonna do it from scratch..but
thats a lot of variables..do gentoo users go through this procedure everytime they format?

well, this i use regularly, if some package bitches around with some particular use-flag ^^

"everytime they format"? This isn't Windows; a properly maintained Gentoo system doesn't require periodic reinstalls. Also, once we have a set of USE variables, that list is readily reusable across systems.

what i can do? rej ?

WaR^DoG: What does `emerge -vp –nodeps dev-libs/glib` return?

ok then :p

ok

for my workplace, for instance, we have one prototypical make.conf for our desktops, one for our IT servers, and one for our customer servers; they're established once, and used for all of our (quickstart-based, scripted) installs.

i check .
[ebuild R ] dev-libs/glib-2.12.11 USE="-debug -doc -hardened" 0 kB

cool

weeee

how do I display the full running process without having the list truncated? I do a "ps auxfw|less" but I still do not get the full command.

hello

WaR^DoG: I can't think of an explanation, actually. It's just silly that glib-config wouldn't get installed.

me too.

having a problem.. i have a realtek 8139 nic in a gentoo box that i'm setting up

hi
what package would i need if i wanted an analog clock for my desktop?

i installed the 8139too and the 8139cp drivers as modules, modprobe'd them but it still says that eth0 does not exist

hey i'm recompiling a kernel and for some reason this time around entfilter is marked as experimental and there is no other firewalling type option visible?

Are you using GNOME? KDE? Something else?

You only need the 8139too, I think.

netfilter, even. does that mean i can leave it out + still use ipchains?

sorry, gnome

installing gentoo on that centos box now

rej, that's what i thought, and i used that first, but since that didn't work, i tried the other one too

look into gDesklets.

hello, can you tell me how much swap is recommended for home use? i used to assign double than ram but it is almost all the time empty reaching 80-100mb when using emerge

Does lspci find the NIC?

what i can do? rej ?

1-2 gigs should be enough

yes

WaR^DoG: Post your `emerge –info`

ok

i would reallyyyy make use of that 2 gigs =( Ketarel

you could probably get away with 512 megs if you want

wrt figuring out why kernel options aren't available, the Kconfig files are your friends.

i wouldn't go lower than 512 though

ok, Ketarel, thanks, i will try that number!

Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

http://rafb.net/p/ybklqA16.html

err, cant see + no slocate installed but thanks, i'll check it out later

you have a kernel source tree?

yeah i'm in menuconfig atm

"eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xc400, `mac address here`, IRQ 10"

there's a Kbuild but no Kconfig

just use find & grep within that tree. it's the same info that menuconfig &c. use, but with the dependency logic being explicit.

Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'"

guys, in cron, is this once a day? * * */1 * * …. ?

where would I extract the desklets I download?

because i've got 45,000 emails from cron with it executing every second…

ahh find + grep is too oldschool even for my slackware 3.0-ing self
i'd forgotten

00 00 * * * is once a day at 12 AM

I don't remember — it's been ages since I cared about eye candy enough to play with them.

find . -name Kconfig .. LOTS .. one per dir, thanks

what about the one i showed you? what does that do ?

In menuconfig you can press '/' and search for the module you're after (or another keyword) - this will usually then show you the pre-requisite options for that module

could be the same thing, if it works
or look into @daily

cool, didn't know that! thanks

Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'"
oops

heh — I didn't know about that either; nifty.

?

hi all
I emerged mod_recurity but apache log error log reports "[error] SecServerSignature: original signature too short. Please set ServerTokens to Full."

bah, help… damn cron filled my root's email with over 45,000 emails.. is there a quick way to delete them all? pine is getting on my nerves

if your mail system delivers them to your home dir … rm ~/.maildir (or whatever the mail directory is set to)
rm -Rf or whatever, easy to test where they are via 'du -h -s ~/.maildir' (summary of disk usage for that dir)

thanks, but i don't see a .maildir in my root folder

could be called .mail or Mail or something

so, apparently it started the nic and called it eth2
is there a way to change it to eth0 or eth1?

nothing mail related in there

otherwise you can probably find it by doing 'locate mail |grep root' (if you have 'emerge slocate'-d)

hi… how do I save my private gpg key to a file? I've read many howtos and they all explain how to export a public key, but then where do I get my private key from?

thanks, it's in /var/spool/mail/root

they're created together. usually one is id_rsa, the other is id_rsa.pub

so i just rm -rf /var/spool/mail/root ?

I'm trying to ./configure –prefix=`kde-config –prefix` a kde theme but I get the error bash: kde-config: command not found. any ideas?

if it's a dir, better to clear the files in there, not the whole dir, maybe

it looks like a file to me

also maybe better to shut down your mail service, rm them, then start it again, i dunno which daemon you use / if it cares though

12 megs

orkid, the instructions I followed suggest that they are DSA/ElGamal encryptions..

ok then shutdown your mail service, remove it, and start it again. you could also just: echo ''/var/spool/mail/root to reduce it to 0 size

thanks bobnormal

no worries

nDuff do the variables in make.conf have to sorted alphabetically?

no.

sorry don't know. they should be in the directory you made them in.

that said, if you have an editor which will do that for you, it never hurts.

uhm, nano?

rm: cannot remove directory `/var/lib/openwebmail/users': Device or resource busy and lsof returns nothing

no rej?

anyone point me in the right direction in regards to switching from gnome to kde or fluxbox without shutting down the x jboss server hosting and my running apps?
i know it can be done…

ispy_, ?

basicly i want to switch from my current gnome session to a fluxbox session without closing say pidgin and all my various running x apps.

err, if it can be done, it's with a lot of difficulty

how would i install an overlay with layman that's not listed in layman's list?
a link for rtfm would be enough ^^
google didn't spit out something useful so far
mzbot teach tomboy64 layman
teach tomboy64 layman

No such faq

pfffft

you don't
you just add it manually

how many overlays would a layman lay if a laymans overlay got laid

where would i do that so it get updated automatically with the next emerge-sync?
*got
*gets?

ispy_, i doubt that can be done easily

lol

26
I thought layman had its own syncer?

uhhh … yes
but i use eix for syncing

ah, then say so

dunno how that works exactly, though ^^
just read somewhere that eix-sync * updates all overlays automagically
"eix-sync *" that is

PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage — add a line like that to make.conf
did you read it or try it?

i read it. but i never confirmed it. but now that you say it, i never conciously stumbled over an updated overlay-package …
mhmmmm

hehe

this definitely GOT to get examined

I don't think eix updates overlays, just the records it has of several popular overlays.

define "records" pls

although a patch and/or feature request for that would be nice …

you are there?

Recent versions of eix can provide information for several popular overlays, even if they're not actually installed in layman. Hang on and I'll find the GWN on it

god, I hate media trying to talk about computing/networking, IP address octets don't up 800 damit!

isn't there updating, unless you emerge a particular package, then there's in most cases a CVS update and emerge
*isn't there no updating

mhmmm gwn … haven't received a recent one in months
is it dead?

more on a long holiday

maybe 'week' is not an Earth week

See http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20061106-newsletter.xml#doc_chap4
Not dead, just hibernating

WaR^DoG: Sending you glib-config is unlikely to help. You need to figure out what is so very wrong with your system…

that solves EXACTLY my next question ^^
tyvm!

i need reinstall ? rej

WaR^DoG: When did you last do an `emerge -vuaDN world`?

Does hibernating Gentoo reserv uptime of the system at all? Or does the uptime counter begin at 0.
0 mins, and such

but …

maybe 4 hours a go

Keith-BlindUser: in my experience it preserves uptime

AT the point of whre you shut it off?
at
Or

(I use suspend to disk on my laptop)

Does it actually keep track of how long it's been off for?

At the point where it was shut off
As far as I can tell

Well
So
Suppose you shut off your box 5 hours ago.
And
The uptime was
1 day 1 minute
at hte point where you hibernated.
Then 1 day later
You resume
(Sinse) most systems have a RTC that never dies, wouldn't the uptime be then 2 days or whatever?

Keith-BlindUser: try it

3 days ago I put the system you think that it agrees to me to reinstalar it? rej

hi

As far as I know, the uptime will be 1 day and 1 minute when I resume. Do note that I could be wrong as I haven't looked particularly closely at this.

i have problem with new antialiasing (newspr use), anyone who use it here?

WaR^DoG: Which package cannot find glib-config anyway?

I always set it in KDE to use sub-pixel hinting (RGB) and hinting style to Medium. This worked, but i have installed new Gentoo and now does not work
[ebuild R ] media-libs/freetype-2.3.5 USE="X zlib -bindist -debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/cairo-1.4.10 USE="X glitz newspr opengl svg -debug -directfb -doc -xcb" 0 kB [1]

Hello, does someone know how to remove KWrite from a KDE system?

[ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXft-2.1.12 USE="newspr -debug" 0 kB [1]
I tried downgrading freetype to latest from xeffects, cairo to 1.4.8 libXft to 2.1.11… None helped…

app-office/mdbtools-0.5 rej

WaR^DoG: And does /usr/bin/glib-config exist on your system?

why would you do that ?!

What i can say more?
When i disable antialiasing in KDE then fonts look ugly, but when enable it look prettier, but not the same like looked before. They look like i would have installed both cairo iand libXft with USE="-newspr" - old antialiasing, but as You can see i have enabled this flag…

This is weird.

I don't like KWrite, I use Kate

My desktop has an ability to suspend?
But why

anyone?

same thing

It's nota laptop

but by default my documents open with KWrite

not a

so I'd like to remove kwrite

ah, you want to change the default program
no need for tactical nukes

but it's part of the kate ebuild

And I have been warned by other linux host folks to not suspend it to RAM or disk. That that will be bad for the desktop's ram and drive.

hate to tell you, but both use the same kedit component

And shortent he life of the hardware.

it's two skins for the same editor

ok.

Hello

hi

Keith-BlindUser: Poppycock. It's not going to reduce the life of the hardware any more than normal use. Laptops have been suspending to RAM and disk for years.

I have the GCC-4.1.2 would have influences that?

It's a desktop though. lol

Keith-BlindUser: Minimal difference

whats the name of the ati open source driver again? for the old cards?

Keith-BlindUser: A laptop is just a smaller version of a desktop (and a slightly more compact version of a rack server)

WaR^DoG: No, that's not importaNT.

ls /usr/bin/glic-config
/usr/bin/glic-config: The File or Directory no exist

I translate the error so that my system this in Spanish

WaR^DoG: glic-config?

how will look NAT regule for local network 192.168.1.0/24 connected to router on rl0 and routed via tun0?

WaR^DoG: You want glib-config, right?

yes

start control center, go to kde components, file associations
fix as needed

hey, when booting straight on to a device like 'mdx', do i need some sort of ramdisk to initialise the raid array?

sorry

yes

i only have glib-genmarshal glib-gettextize glib-mkenums

that does not really work on my box

is there an easy, well documented, gentoo-style way of doing this?

Why not?

but glib-config not found.

no, you don't
if all disks are of type fd the arrays will be auto-assembled on boot by the kernel
thus using root=/dev/md0 works quite nicely

i can try remerge pkgconfig and glib

what do you mean 'of type fd' ?

WaR^DoG: I thought you had already done that.

or do you mean that partition-type for linux raid autodetect?

or i can reinstall the system lol

exactly

i have some swap partitions as well, is that OK?

err … yes, why?

cannot remove directory `/var/lib/openwebmail/users': Device or resource busy and lsof returns nothing

if the reboot fails i have to wait 12 hours for my hosting company to fix it
i wouldnt ask otherwise

ah … fail

yes i can do it rej.

wouldn't hurt for your swap to be on RAID, btw — increases your chances of the system staying up through a disk failure.

/msg mzbot faq apache1

fuser -v $(find /var/lib/openwebmail/users -depth)

sorry is i did it

it does?

nice idea! i'll try that.
i guess if it's raid-chunking mode it might be faster too

idletask, returns nothing

but never it gave glib-config me

aka 'striping'

oh, striping? never mind, then.

kernel already does raid0-like striping on swap

I was thinking you were doing mirroring.

no need to do that explicitly
what, redundancy? fool!

i have mirroring on my / and /boot, but swap is standard right now
thanks
for a feline you sure know a lot

meow

sometimes, strangely, the changes I make are *never* remembered

:'(

wazzup?

:p

that but it is to do? rej ?

fortunately, the configure-scripts summarize the lack of libnotify-support before i start building.

good morning

hello

hello swiss person!

^^

I'm looking for a pdf reader for a brand new Gentoo install, any recomendations?

how does it feel to miss out on the tour de france by only a few kilometres?

xpdf, kpdf, evince

….

depends a bit on what desktop environment you use

?

guys, can someone please help me configure my alsa sound?

it hurts lol

_nightw0lf^: more precisely?

_nightw0lf^: #1 problem is always the mixer, turn up your volume

at least we have good weather

bobnormal:

at least you're closer than we australians

bonsaikitten, I'm using Xfce right now, I started out with fluxbox but wasn't patient enough to work out all the kinks.

you are from swiss too ?

bobnormal, well im not sure it about the volume, when I run audacious and play a mp3 is says that I have no sound or something

eheh

no, just live there

bonsaikitten, I have AC'97 (HP Pavilion dv4000) intel chip i915

_nightw0lf^: right, you have the i8×0 sound driver loaded?

bonsaikitten, im not sure, how can I check it?

_nightw0lf^: also, don't buy HP, it's bad for your mental health

_nightw0lf^: dmesg |grep 97 .. any output?

okay

hey bonsaikitten

No. You're not wrong. Linux must not care about the real time clock.
Because
Eaven though the time is right,
It seems to make little difference how long the box is off for.

_nightw0lf^: dmesg |grep 8×0 — any output?
bdf“`: hai

bonsaikitten, i emerged audacious but it doesnt play mp3 , i recompiled it with mad use flag but still no go

http://pastebin.com/m2d704905
bonsaikitten, no output from the 8×0.

and then where do you come from ?

bdf“`: sound in general works?

bonsaikitten, i didnt check hold on

_nightw0lf^: ok, either try modprobe'ing it or baking a new kernel
_nightw0lf^: ah, looks like it's loaded

not from /root i hope ?

_nightw0lf^: start alsamixer

bdf“`: Remerge audacious-plugins, not audacious.

hehe

moin

Monkeh, aaah alright thanks

function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device

_nightw0lf^: that is suboptimal means alsa claims there is no soundcard

alsa problems suck.

got a problem booting a livecd, it says "The root block device is unspecified or not detected."

is there a way to mount a windows mobile device? It should have a filesystem like thingy, i do get it in windows. don't see it reporting a usb disk device or something tho'

those problems suck too
(the livecd boot problems)

lol too right

hey dudes, how can I test my memory ?

never had it before though

bonsaikitten, I need to run alsaconf? I made it already tho..

cat /proc/devices |grep sound ?

memtest86

memtest, I think its an option ont he livecd

_nightw0lf^: i think you need to massage your kernel a bit
interesting idea

this ac97 system has no dmesg output .. but sound works fine
sound is in /proc/devices though

thanks

bonsaikitten, I've compiled alsa in kernel build in, and the ac'97 drivers too.

Is thre some reason Linux does not regard the real time clock?
is there

compiling first kernel …. *clenches buttcheekes*
:O

TMI

lol

tmi?

too much information.

oh

exactly

well i just thought id share ;P

heh

Monkeh, yea it seems to have worked , downloading libmad

don't

heh

uhh guys if i have changed some iptables but NOT saved wats the best way to reverse what I have done?

noone use newspr?

bonsaikitten, i was emerging firefox and flash , both failed, flash failed to download and firefox failed to compile

/etc/init.d/iptables reload ?

i then downloaded firefox seperately and then installed

bdf“`: flash fails, yes

flash need to regenerate manifest

firefox I'd recommend searching bugs.gentoo.org

good for re-install it is not so bad option of all ways thanks for the help rej

no, there are different broken versions out there

bonsaikitten, ok

macromedia fails hard there

anyone know why livecd doesn't boot properly please?

i have regenerated digest and works good now

bonsaikitten, can i download flash seperately and then use it ? no problem in doing that is it ?

bonsaikitten i'll do my best not to in the future ;PP

yeah, you have a version with a security hole now
bdf“`: well, at the moment you can't trust macromedia to hand you a good file

bonsaikitten, so for flash what should i use ?

bonsaikitten, what I need to do in my kernel?

Keith-BlindUser: Is there some reason you particularly want it to? I would assume it's some decision made either by the kernel developers of the uptime facility or the developers of the suspend2 code

bdf“`: wait

heh…

because , some sites are flash based they just wont come up bonsaikitten

what about antialiasing?

bonsaikitten, alright

anyone use it?

can I run it in my running system ?

_nightw0lf^: you need to check that alsa is there and "intel/amd/via AC97" sound driver is there too

bonsaikitten, build in? or module?

bdf“`: you can of course try to download it and install the version oyu get, but I can't recommend that
_nightw0lf^: both are fine

bonsaikitten, i get it

_nightw0lf^: module has the advantage that you can experiment with it easier, built in tends to work automatically … both good
euphor][a: tried a different livecd?

no

bonsaikitten, and i emerged kde-meta and it doesnt look the same as it used to with fedora , neither the fonts nor the window style , even though i chosed the same style , just for info i used -gtk when i emerged kde-meta

How secure is a normal user if there only in the users group?

honestly, i don't know. i'd doubt it, but didn't find a hint on the homepage.

like how restricted are they

bdf“`: yeah, fedora has its own kde hacks, gentoo uses real kde

note though, that i'm talking about memtest86+ here

bonsaikitten, oh thats why , because it looks totally different

bonsaikitten, well both alsa and ac97 are in my kernel.

bonsaikitten, now the sound doesnt work , sorry to bug you so much , but how to check whats wrong with it ?

fixed, silly dell bios

bdf“`: patience, look at log files etc. and try to see what doesn't work
euphor][a: ah, another silly Dell

heh, dell

bonsaikitten:

friend of mine had to fix a HDD on a dell once.. but the case was rivited together and you couldn't get the HDD out without removing the mobo as well.. so he ended up pushing another tower close to it and hooking up the HDD from there

hey guys….can somene give me an estimate on how much time does it take for the kernel to compile?
just.. "in the vicinity" … "close to" … or something :p

a few min

http://pastebin.com/m343114a2

completely depends on your hardware.

P4 2.6

slycer depends on hardware and kernel copnfig

bonsaikitten, what I need to leave there?

_nightw0lf^: experiment around

hi ghotcom

bonsaikitten, hehe

nm…

10 minutes on a 2Ghz dualcore

bonsaikitten, alright ;0

is it env-update then source /etc/profile, or vice versa?

cool, thanks…its been 10 mins now

bonsaikitten… when?

ok

when compiling x86 or amd64?
when compiling whole drivers
or just necessary?

amd64, but times shouldn't differ that much

hi

when building iptables modules?
or not?
when building IPv6 or only Ipv4?

what difference does it make …

i aaccidently scrolled up, saw you join and say 'hello'

bonsaikitten i have Athlon64 2528MHz

get more ram and it takes less time etc.

so i thought, lets be polite

and when i enabled IPv6 support it compiled ~5minutes longer

you're welcome

yeah, I have 4G ram, so my times are most likely relatively low

lol
but i don't think he does

i have software versioned with 2.3, 2.4, 23000 and 24000, all hardmasked. what would be the correct syntax to unmask only the 2.3 and 2.4 versions?
because i want to downgrade from 24000 (svn) to 2.4 (pre-release)

saying about 10 minutes is rather inexat

=2.4 ?

it gives you a general idea …

two lines, =package/name-here-2.3 .. and =package/name-here-2.4 .. in /etc/package.mask or keywords or whatever

also on repeat compiles times vary a lot

don't wanna argue… but in my opinion it's hard to speciofy even approximatelly time knowing just CPU clock ;]

bonsaikitten, that's wired, I had just now sound when loading KDE, but still I can't play with audacious

what if he compiles 2.4?

no, that doesn't work.
but that would exclude further updates in that overlay

i guess 2.4 compiles slower than 2.6, doesn't it?

why not?

*shrug* .. i always do that, it works for me.

got a challenge for you
cd /usr/src/linux && make -j

bonsaikitten, that's wired, I had just now sound when loading KDE, but still I can't play with audacious

grrrr wgetpaste is broken :-/

ok, so sound does work a bit

bonsaikitten, lol yea kind of..

any errors from audacious?

sound-daemon-hell–

only thing worse is rpms of sound daemons

http://rafb.net/p/e6njEH79.html

stop swearing

you have the correct output plugin selected, no other programs are blocking soundcard , your soundcard is configured properly

using arts in kde?

bonsaikitten, dunno..

well, you didn't say anything about ~ keywords. You just need to unmask that separately.

uhhhhhhhhhhh
oversaw that ^^

bonsaikitten, yea.. arts working with audicous

thank you

np

damn
damn damn damn

bonsaikitten which modules do i want to start at boot? :/

bonsaikitten, that means I will use arts from now on?

i ran /etc/init.d/sshd to test the sshd of my new gentoo on centos thinggy
and it died a horrible death
and i can no longer connect ;(

all you need?
sorry, mildly distracted

no problem..its just that find /lib/modules/2.6.19-r5/ -type f -iname '*.o' -or -iname '*.ko' doesnt return anything

bonsaikitten, what I should do? :/

did you run make modules_install when building the kernel?
try to think

yeah, i ran make && make modules_install

ah, that path is whack
should be kernel-2.6.19 I think

yeah i guess i just scrolled up and saw that it listed a lot od *.o files
while compiling
nope kernel is 100% 2.6.21

duh …

and i pasted that line from the handbok..i used .21 now but it still doesnt do anything

bonsaikitten, how can I regulate that volume with arts plugin?

not sure

Hi guys, not strictly a Gentoo question, but… I need to ssh to a box that is behind a dynamicIP_ADDR and PPP. Can I connect to it?

arts is an ugly monster

bonsaikitten, I see, how can I make alsa working?

only if the gateway does port forwarding
kill arts and all traces of it maybe?

bonsaikitten, if I will try it on fluxbox that should work no?

I've got the ip address host address of the box (with whatismyipaddress.com…). You mean the ppp gateway?
at the ISP?

err … I don't understand
euphor][a: no cursing in here please

hehe

euphor][a: Don't bash Dell or Windows please.

hello, i got a problem configuring pppoe. at the beginning i used the pppoe-start and it worked good. now i want the ppp permantly and now i have the following problem: http://nopaste.php-q.net/312038
and yes i included all ppp configurations into my kernel

bonsaikitten do you mind if i paste a link do a screenshot of my problem? i'd really like to get thtought this ;(
in prive that is
private*

I'm a bit distracted

i wont take more than 10 sec :p

feel free

hrm

I mean, who should forward the port? the ISP?
the box I am trying to connect is the actual internet router (I set it up)
is a linux hosting box

the entity controling the externally visible IP

btw is there something to automaticly do screenshots and upload them?

Er, you're the expert. You tell us.
Did you portforward tcp/22 to the machine that runs the sshd that you want to expose?

Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!…

teach bonsaikitten about german

Fuer deutschprachige Unterstuetzung wende dich bitte an #gentoo.de

=P

The box I am trying to reach is actually the internet router at the office, so I should see it…

rofl

wow mzbot is a cool bot

fail

:'(

You would need to set up the portforwarding on the office router, then.

no, the box running the sshd service _IS_ the router itself.

hey, can someone please take a look at this screenshot http://shrani.si/files/asdf114a5x.jpg and eprhaps give me a hand
why i cant find any modules :/

has anyone else had issues with 2.6.21 and the forcedeth driver?

bonsaikitten, have to go. Thanks!

anyone?

how do u do screenshots in linux?

its vmware

with X running it's relatively easy

my first time installing linux and didnt want to install it on my only boy without douing it atleast once like this

i run X

box ! not boy ;(

ksnapshot etc., lots of programs to do it

so, u like boys Slycer? ;D

How did you build your kernel?

k thx bonsaikitten

make && make modules_install

I just ran 'emerge kde-meta' it finally finished but I got an error saying "Video4Linux requires =x11-libs/qt-3* be compiled with USE="opengl" " How do I satisfy this?

Nod-ubuntu, emerge qt-3 with the opengl useflag, like it says

7
47 would be barrier for max size to burn or?

teach Nod-ubuntu use flags

No such faq

teach Nod-ubuntu useflags

Is qt3 what I really want if I'm going to go kde+beryl? I thought that qt4 was supported now.

No such faq

teach tomboy64 use

When an ebuild offers the user a choice, it usually checks the USE flags of that user to decide what to do. For instance, a package that conditionally supports the ALSA Sound Architecture, might listen to USE="alsa" to decide whether or not to compile in ALSA support. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2

Nod-ubuntu, you can have both 3 and 4

teach Nod-ubuntu use

Nod-ubuntu: When an ebuild offers the user a choice, it usually checks the USE flags of that user to decide what to do. For instance, a package that conditionally supports the ALSA Sound Architecture, might listen to USE="alsa" to decide whether or not to compile in ALSA support. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2

Oh okay

import, xv, scrot, gimp, xwd, all can be used to take screenshots

AllenJB any idea what could be the problem? :/

No, I don't. Beyond you compiling everything in to the kernel and having no modules. Weird.

hello everyone

i scrolled up..and theres a lot of lines containing files endind in *.o … smthn like "CC lib/radix-tree.o"
does this mean that i have the modules?
ooohhhh! do you think i compiled everything in the kernel?! it is possible..i dont remember seeing any "M" during kernel configuration
took me a while to understand what you said..i'm new

can I ask about webalizer here?

hi. for what there is "gtk" USE-flag for gcc?

Morning all

Damn it… -dev turned into an unreadable mess…

Is there a seperate module for the intel 9xx gp , Im having some problems with aiglx rendering video , There are a few warnings in xorg log

hi
does anyone know ajax here?

it plays the video fine , if I try to move the window I get a blue screen until I stop movement, same with rotating compiz cube

you mean i can do javascript?

who is ajax

doh

mikee look into jquery ( simple to learn write and maintain )

yes

sarts, i am looking for someone, who may have "tree widget" programed in java script

teach mikee about topic

The main topic of #gentoo is _support_ for Gentoo Linux. If your question isn't Gentoo-related, or if it's Gentoo-related, but not support-related, ops may ask you to move the conversation to #gentoo-chat or another more appropriate channel.

my question is not gentoo-related?