wesolek, change them all to say (hd0,1) instead of (hd0,0) which would be sda1 which you do not want

I've been having heating issues lately.. When I initially installed Gentoo I installed i8k utils to controll my fans from gkrellm. At some point while having the service run by default it was making the fans act weird. For example the fans would be set to automatic which is suppose to set the fans on full speed but it would seem to cause the fans to rev up and down constantly …

yea kinda sad im @ like 160 packages left, out of 270

Ok, now we have something. It's telling me that it couldn't bind to 127.0.0.1:9050

so I need to just change the (hd0,0) to (hd0,1)? grknight

GMouse, maybe that port is already taken?

wesolek,

netstat will tell

im using all the use flags with gnome-menus

grknight, reboot?

wesolek, after you change all 3.. you should be able to safely reboot

It shouldn't be taken. The only thing that I can think of that would interfere is my firewall. But I have iptables following extremely lax rules for OUTPUT

wesolek, and don't forget to pop out the CD

no no, it's listening problem
GMouse, check netstat -t -n -l

thanks for telling me, I just changed all 2!!! lol just correcting my mistake

nada

050

wesolek, the first error 15 is the splash image

I know that, grknight
ok here it comes
yeah

Then I decided to turn off the service but left the plugin in gkrellm active and it works without the constant reving,

nie blueish screen

Just that the temp goes up

hi, - net-misc/ipv6calc-0.45 (masked by: missing keyword) what i must to do?

Checking privoxy returns an error that it couldn't read /var/log/tor/config

I can't believe!!! it's actually doing something!!! like booting up I think!!!! monkeh, grknight

So I think if I fix tor, privoxy will work as well.

wesolek, you'll just have to remember to use (hd0,1) in grub from now on

/etc/portage/package.mask

— Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.mask: net-misc/ipv6calc-0.45

another question

grknight, monkeh… hm, how to say that.. FATAL: couldn't open some modules for wireless

wesolek, oops.. i think i found another error: "real_root=/dev/hda3"

in the mm1 patch of the vanilla kernel, CFS is included

they are 3 packet masked 0.45 0.50 0.51 i must add all?

upd when you use a version, u must use an = in front of the group

wesolek, that should be "real_root=/dev/sdb2"
sda2*

is it included by default or do you have to choose it in menuconfig?

I see that, grknight
let me change it

/etc/portage/package.mask

wesolek, fix that.. then reboot into the 2nd kernel.. that's newer and probably where your wireless is

Ok, now this is interesting. Google tells me that the problem could be that the loopback device doesn't exist. ifconfig confirms that.
lo doesn't exist for some odd reason.

remember to clear the line without "=" in front

!!! (Did you specify a version but forget to prefix with '='?)

GMouse, /etc/init.d/net.lo start

i clear it..
and don't work

and add that to boot runlevel

oh no, it was saying sda2, that's why it worked

pastie it please

wesolek, did you start the 1st or 2nd kernel on the list? the 2nd one is newer

ok booting to the newer kernel this time, grknight
File system couldn't be fixed - that's the message
and Give root password for maintenance

wesolek, you may be missing the correct fsck program
which filesystem is that?

astorm, that is way beyond my linux knowledge… I just followed the handbook

wesolek, a bit lousily I guess. log in as that root

wesolek, did you format it with mke2fs or something like mkreiserfs?

and type mount

no clue, grknight
I'm on it astorm

http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=1476 help
shoud i add all version?

ok astorm, it gave about 20 lines with info, anything particular you need?

upd, package.mask prevents installs not allows

welp, check the one with / in it

..

!earch ipv6calc

ipv6calc-0.45[0]: ipv6calc-0.50[0]: ipv6calc-0.51[0]: hppa ppc sparc x86

Ok! A little punching around on the CLI, and it all works! I don't know why net.lo wasn't on the startup list.

so what is solution?

do the echo thing to package.unmask

they all have / in it, astorm

sorry the mistakes

upd, whats your arch?

sorry welp, wesolek hmm, the one that has /, not /whatever

arch?

cooler, that's wrong

cooler, no problem

what you mean?

tmpfs on / type tmpfs (rw) /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,data=ordered)
astorm

upd, edit /etc/portage/package.keywords and add "net-misc/ipv6calc **" to it

wesolek, check if you have e2fsprogs installed

to allow a MASKED package you also need to put it at package.unmask

how astorm?

wesolek, uhm, emerge e2fsprogs

damn it, where are the logs for this channel?

cooler, yes.. only if it's masked by package.mask this is a keyword case

Evening everyone, I am new to gentoo but not to linux, i am most confortable with ubuntu and debian, but would like to try gentoo out after hearing much about it. Are there any good newbie guides for gentoo using either the min cd or live cd?

Stupid question…I finished installing kde…how do I start it?

hum

hi

startkde ?
or put startkde at .xinitrc and run startx

I've got an error while compiling kdelibs, anyone else experiencing problems with that ?

upd, add that line (without the quotes) and you'll be able to merge

grknight, works THANKS YOU!

It says canot connect to x server

grknight, he should remove it from his package.mask as well

it said something about read only files in /var/log/emerge.log and some other stuff, astorm

oh
he must've removed it

wesolek, heh, forgot about one thing then
wesolek, mount -o remount,rw /

Aeudian, don't use the installer is tip#1.. use the handbook

then try again

mzbot, teach Aeudian handbook

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

installer meaning live cd?

ok astorm

lol wow I feel stupid
Feel free to hit me

The only pages google can find with both your any my nicks on it is the log for this channel.\

Aeudian, you can use the livecd if you want a nice way to browse.. just don't use the installer program on it

- ken tyep

Aeudian, basically the minimal is just that… no xorg, all console
Aeudian, the livecd adds xorg, firefox and other goodies

I think it remounted that partition, astorm

wesolek, now try that emerge again

DrChandra, hmm….I see that. Then I try going up in the URL to just the gentoo directory and I only see 2006 stuff

do I need to be connected to the internet for that? astorm

wesolek, if you have it installed already, then no
but other than that, maybe

it looks like it's not… it says: couldn't download

for that to work

like /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start

Nothing newer?

what is the proper way to exit xorg ? ctrl+alt+backspace seems brutal

DrChandra, didn't see it
anyway….I asked a question and had to leave.

ok let me do it… unfortunately the wire is downstairs… brb

i just installed gentoo but after trying booting into i'm greeted with this "Calling quiesce …returning 0×01400000 from prom_init" on forums i have read that frame buffer is the cause of it, i have tried the suggestion made on there and also i have followed installion handbook without missing a step, I'm on ppc64, I would appreciate any help

close all programs that are running in it. if that's done and it's still running, then ctrl_alt_backspace will do absolutely no harm.

ok, then i need to figure out how to exit the wm, thanks

Looks like all the channels ended June 18th, 2006.

it won't start it, astorm

What are you looking for?

usually if the script that starts things is in ~/.xinitrc killing the last started one (usually wm) will end X.
what wm?

ion3

I have about 8.5 hours right now.

I just asked if anyone used AWN

oh. don't know how to exit it. sorry.

cannot run net.eth0 until sysinit completes

wesolek, do what you have to, then, to get the internet access

astorm

np, thanks for your help

it might be easier to start the livecd
and then mount and chroot like in the handbook

does anyone know the default location for sound devices in /dev/? (trying to get sound working in vmware)

I think you're right… astorm, brb

I see no replies.

DrChandra, thanks

Hi there!

No mentions of AWN, either, except for yours.

hmm, okay

anyone has any suggestions for solving the "Calling quiesce …returning 0×01400000 from prom_init" boot error ?

it's in the wm menu, by pressing f12 (just letting you know)

Hi. I have a problem with grub/gentoo fresh install. Same HD, i have windows (partition 1), swap (partition 2) and ext3 (partion 3) with gentoo. My devices are sda1/2/3 respectively. I have in grub.conf root(hd0,2) kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda3, and the kernel will begin to boot, but it iwll complain it cant mount the root FS. It says something about VMS/floppy, so i hit enter and, it says i have hd1/3 available
Any help or experiance with this would be appreciated

When I 'startx' it boots to a gui with three root bashes and when I start kde it looks really…primitive.

I can't even do that, astorm

Is it supposed to look like that?

glibc-2.6 does not actually support the nptl USE flag?

I tried to start the eth.0 and it gave me the same error as when booting up the system normally
this is crazy

wesolek, hmm
maybe your network provider is being funny

I don't think I am strong enough to keep going

check /etc/resolv.conf

nope, it was fine yesterday

and /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf
hmm

it rebooted now…. waiting to do it again

your ISP is acting evil

believe me, that's not it

thanks

my secure linux web hosting is acting evil
lol

is the default 512MB for an 80gb drive good for swap? i have never configured the partitions for linux ever, 512MB is what gentoo guide recommands

yea
depends on what you're going to do with system, but that's usually enough.

typical stuff, no gaming, maybe gui later on and some services
is it bad to go with 1GB?

it's fine

wesolek, well, you just forgot to install filesystem utilities - missed one step in the handbook

correct me if i am wrong, but swap is like a page file in windows? you dont want to much or to little? i have 1.5GB in memory

hi, just installed gentoo (using the handbook) and when I reboot my GRUB starts but does not give me the OS's I specified in my config file, it just has a "grub" command line. I have a seperate boot partition (hda5). You think maybe it's not reading the config file?

can we still do it now? astorm?

algun sevillano

wesolek, yes, if you get all needed files or network connection up

I will go downstairs to emerge it… maybe it'll pick it up

the easiest way would be to start as if you were installing
yep

do I need to do anything else other than emerge? while I am connected

pues que bien

wesolek, I don't think so

ok brb then
ok back… emerged
astorm

wesolek, now it should boot

do I need to install it or something?

well, emerge == installation

IMPORTANT: 2 config files in /etc need updating
but it doesn't say what files
should I just ignore it astorm?

wesolek, use etc-update

gentoo 4tw?

or dispatch-conf

ok I think I've done it… reboot now? astorm

wesolek, why not

astorm… same error

wesolek, weird
maybe check your /etc/fstab
if it's correct

but I don't know what device and I know that the 8139too module doen't work on this laptop

that's why I can't just simply use a live cd
cos it loads this bloody module!!!!

okay pleaes don't yell at us

I hate to say that, but it looks like I will have to apologise to windows astorm
unless anybody's got any idea how to load a live cd without the 8139too module…..

wesolek, hmm, nodetect should work
gentoo prompt
but I wonder if you'll be able to get networking up w/o network card driver

but then I will end up with what I had before… no hardware working

hm
I wonder why 8139too doesn't work

no, I tried that too… loading 8139cp didn't do the trick

any OOPS message, or just networking doesn't work?

it's this bloody lan card they put in this laptop

it's probably not 8139too
lspci will tell you

it is

could you paste here that one line from lspci about that card?
(Ethernet controller)

it won't tell anything cos as soon as you try to load the module, it hangs and only holding down the power button is a remedy

sounds really bad
try booting with nodetect, then run that lspci
btw, what kind of laptop it is?

it's a philips laptop
freevents X55
just type gentoo nodetect?
I can do it manually by entering the interactive mode and skipping autoconfig… is that the same?
astorm
monkeh are you still around?

wesolek, yes, the same

wait… I pasted my lspci yesterday
http://rafb.net/p/oSQjzd75.html
there astorm

wesolek, 404
that's why rafb.net sucks
I suggest pastebin.com or pastebin.ca

????
oh ok
let me copy it for you
http://pastebin.com/m48a8b2e6
astorm, I just don't know why I pasted first 24 lines…. look at 25-on

Hmm, it's a normal realtek
which livecd are you using?
BTW, you can use almost any
Knoppix is known to work well

2007.0 but it doesn't matter, I tried, ubuntu (3 different distributions), suse, and gentoo… they all do the same

i am following the gentoo handbook, and im on the part where i must download gentoo stage3, but i seem to get my download stalled/stoped around 7-9mb into the download, i have tried 5 differnet mirrors and all seem to stop, i am downloading the files to /mnt/gentoo just like the guide says and with the default partition sizes

wesolek, weird, sounds like a hardware problem

Try using wget

oh… knopix didn't work either
well… windows was ok

anyone did HOWTO XMMS2?

You're very unlucky it seems
probably buggy hardware

yeah, if knoppix isn't working, I'd definitely say issues with your hardware (whether NIC, router, or hard drive)

with bugs being worked around in windows drivers
would be of much interest to certain developers

and when I managed to delete this module as soon as ubuntu unzipped it, the instalation went fine, only my lan never worked

I don't know what is exactly wrong, but it'd be good to check the magic sysrq keys
if these work

rakeyry will do, is the digests file on the servers the md5 file to compare too?

it's alt+printscreen+some letter

You be the judge

figured as much =P

nothing works once it starts loading this module
astorm… just by looking at my lspci, can you tell me what modules I need to install, I guess I could do it manually

some here use pppoe-start
?

live cd has booted up now

http://pastebin.ca/622738

That's a start.

i got this error while i was compiling firefox
please have a look at it

wesolek, well, it looks like you should use 8139too, but… :/
maybe your card has broken PIO or MMIO
there is an option for that in the kernel

i cant use that, i tried with root #pppoe-start andsay only root can use that not found /bin/id

rakeyry, only without autoconfig I even managed to start the xserver (but only on vesa driver)
is there? astorm?

*

yes, but I don't know whether that's switchable from the kernel command line

huh?

you could try noapic option first

Command Line Interface is all you need…

APICs tend to be broken

there ?

and then, if that fails or works, irq=poll

rakeyry… I love my wobbly windows lol that's the only reason I want it on my laptop
lol

bdf“`: needs more info… post the entire emerge output if possible

How do I unmask an ebuild which has KEYWORDS=""?

astorm, do you want me to reboot it again????

wesolek, mhm

nDuff, **

o.o A waste if you ask me.

damn. astorm… lol
oo? rakeyry?

thank you.

I use dwm.

does anyone know if an svn checkout dies half way through, can it pick up where it left off?

rakeyry, I have no idea what you are saying… oo and dwm doesn't tell me anything

in CUPS, it insists that my parallel port is busy — is there any way to "force" it to be free again?
without rebooting that is

sometimes, but you may need to prune bits. the working tree library is probably the ugliest, most hackish code in svn.

i was trying to install firefox and it gave me this error please have a look at it http://pastebin.ca/622738

"no" is really the easier answer to that question.

dwm - http://dwm.suckless.org/

bdf“`: again, thats not enough info, post the entire emerge output if possible, or then, post the most of it you can.

gentoo noapic ???? or gentoo noacpi??? and btw, I've done it too with gentoo acpi=off, astorm

sure give me two mins

wesolek, the first one

damn, somebody misspelled it last night, and maybe that's why it didn't work???
and leave it to load itself?

wesolek, no, it's another option
yes, leave it to load

Yeah Linux doesn't handle typos well

rakeyry, it's not a typo - it's another option

O

thanks astorm

h

gentoo noload=8139too - but it didn't work

http://pastebin.ca/622750

On the following page http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX#Installing_AIGLX I have just 'emerge –sync –newuse world' and it tells me to type glxinfo | grep direct I'm getting 'bash: glxinfo: command not found'

i have tried to copy as much as i could

sorry… didn't work Kernel panic - not syncing: CPU context corrupt - so the same as before

Was I suppose to emerge something else as well?

Nod-ubuntu, did you install mesa?

and it's hanging… let me try that other thing you said
astorm

No I have not installed Mesa. Am I suppose to?

Nod-ubuntu, install mesa

wesolek, irq=poll

Simple as 'emerge mesa' ?

Yes
Well
Nod-ubuntu, more specifically mesa-progs

compiz fusion is unstable?

Nod-ubuntu, but those depend on mesa I believe

So which is it? 'emerge mesa' or 'emerge mesa-progs' ?

Nod-ubuntu, try emerge mesa mesa-progs

please?

bdf“`: type equery uses mozilla-firefox and paste the output

I tried installing my system from where I had the live cd started with no autoconfig, and it asked me for modules that I want to have installed… can I just install everything except for the 8139too? and then when it's all up and running focus on my LAN?
astorm

alright

nope astorm, this one didn't work either, same kernel panic

[ Searching for packages matching mozilla-firefox… ]
!!! No matching packages found for "mozilla-firefox"

bdf“`: … ?

wesolek, so, it's a kernel panic

Is there any way to clear out all of my kernel setting and start all over

bdf“`: uhm, then type emerge -pv mozilla-firefox and paste the ebuild line for me (in a pastebin)

ok

could you copy the output? Digital photos are ok

well this system says so… not always though… I guess depends on it's mood, but it hangs absolutely
hold on… I think I can do this

Anyone know if there is a way to start with a fresh kernel, i used genkernel and have way to muach clutter in my kernel

make mrproper
wipes the config and everything

astorm, I wll just do it again so there there is no linux graphic window - more to see

Thank you

http://pastebin.ca/622759

do you have any other option you want to try, may as well as need to boot it up again
astorm

wesolek, I'm out of ideas for now

bdf“`: "mozilla-frefox"?

btw it says if you want help , post the topmost build error where should i post it anyways
yea mozilla-firefox

bdf“`: read it again "mozilla-frefox"

ok

anyone beable to get wx.net running on gentoo?

bdf“`: "frefox"?

not sure you'll be able to read any of it

When you are following the documentation for setting up your kernel and its telling you what to have selected. Does that mean you can untick everything else? IE: Psiedo filesystems for example, it only has 2 items ticked out of the default 4 things that mrproper has ticked.

sorry here is the new one ! http://pastebin.ca/622765

/etc/portage/package.us)

emerge -pv mozilla-firefox

bdf“`: .use?
bdf“`: if the filename was wrong, it *could* be it, but not probably
bdf“`: "-java", yea, its wrong..

no Skankerpotimous that i gave after it finished
i gave env USE="java" emerge mozilla-firefox

bdf“`: dont do that

ok ok , then what should i do ?

/etc/portage/package.use

bdf“`: then run env-update && source /etc/profile

Is "[*] Use PCI DMA by default when available" now called something else, I am not seeing it

bdf“`: then try emerging firefox again

ok wait a sec

anyone ever done a remote install / got any docs i can look at?

ever did a stage3 manual install ?

what do you mean by 'manual' ? i have done stage3 a lot

has "Enable DMA only for disks" Replaced "[*] Use PCI DMA by default when available" ??

what kind of "remote install"? kicking off an installation via netbooting? doing a fully unattended installation?

i have a running centos server, i want to replace it (dont care about config etc.) with gentoo, then rebuild from scratch

Anyone?

partition and then download and untar stage3, portage snapshot etc, etc …

ahh. what does your hard drive situation look like? If you can use a completely separate partition to stage into, that's ideal.

no idea, that sort of thing would be in kernel mailing list archives, changelogs or someplace equally obscure though

You dont need to enable dma?

this could be the issue http://pastebin.ca/622772

ideally, you'll be on LVM or somesuch, so there's no rebooting needed to put updated partition tables into effect &c.

my partitions are basically 2 x 250GB disks RAIDed together, then a seperate boot partition (also raided)

it's easy enough to find out; look up what the .config option is for both old and new kernels.

two physical disks but two 'md' volumes spanning them

bdf“`: maybe, then wait a sec

what can't you do remotely ?

ok

astorm.. ok I got the pic, where do you want me to send it to?
it's not the best pic, but I think it'll be ok

well i want to install gentoo, basically i need to untar the stage3 tarball and portage, set up grub, re-install grub, then reboot the server remotely
i can ssh in to the centos system already

wesolek, hm, imageshack will work

if you keep your existing boot partition, no need for grub installation afaik

imageshack.com?

wesolek, yes

i would just untar stage3 and portage-snapshot, chroot, compile a kernel, add sshd to default runlevel, setup root password and add an entry to grub menu.lst …

maybe it's better if i change the root partition .. do you know if there's a tool so that i can resize my 250gb disk's RAID volume (/') while running? if not then i guess i'll have to remove one disk from it, and create a single-disk new root partition… ?
i'm thinking a clean new root partition would be ideal

no LVM running on top of that RAID device, then, I take it. Makes things a little trickier unless you have an initrd you can boot into which will be immediately net-accessible (in which case you'll be able to repartition and have it take immediate effect, and do other Useful Things).

i don't know, but i would try to boot from a rescue system and just empty the partitions …. and keep the partitionning, if you hadn't any problem with it, there shouldn't be any need touching it

Out of curiousity should VLC running in screen A of a non-xinerama dual head setup be able to full screen video onto screen B?

taking the time to build an initrd which will start up sshd with a preset root password will make the rest of your life easier wrt the project. test it locally (maybe in a qemu image) to be sure it'll actually work before you run the risk of rebooting your real apache geronimo server hosting into it.

bdf“`: id recommend creating a bug at bugzilla, i cant seem to run emerge too, it fails to download the patches tarball.
bdf“`: and sorry, now i gtg, cya later

sure thanks alot

good suggestion, thanks. is there a small bootable net-accessible disk image you can recommend?

do I need to register there? astorm?

Hmm, I don't know

not off the top of my head. I've been doing a bunch of playing with catalyst, so I'm in a decent position to be able to make one… but I don't know of any prebuilt.

rebooting

Actually, just sending this pic by email to me should work

speaking of which… how much trouble will it be if this server gets into a horked/non-net-accessible state? it's pretty easy to goof up in ways that cause that result.

(if i understood right?) i cant reboot to a rescue system as i dont have local access to select it…

I can send it to kernel devs just fine
astralstorm@gmail.com

not a huge trouble, i have tipped off the hosting provider, they will be able to get it back to ssh-able

cool.

just cost me ~US$40 hehe

ahh.

prefer not to pay that if possible
lucky for some! where do you live? my server is NY, i live in .cn, but i'm in .au now (where i'm from / grew up)

I'm in austin.tx.us

oil country! i guess the gas is cheap there

so i have this issuse not sure how it came to be , i updated net.eth0 with etc-update and now i cant seem to get eth0 up
i can ifconfig eth0 up but it doesnt connect

http://www.yourhostedimages.com/images/wesolek/dscf0051.jpg and http://www.yourhostedimages.com/images/wesolek/dscf0048.jpg astorm

it acts like it doesnt know what $IFACE is
this is a known issuse or can someone offer any advice

heh… by a lot of standards, yes. compared to the rest of .tx.us it's expensive — but other texans think Austin land prices are expensive too; coming from .ca.us, I think they're dirt cheap.

at boot it just says bring up …….. not bring up eth0

there are 2, hopefully you can see something on them, astorm

wesolek, yes, but it won't tell anyone much

sydney real estate is really expensive… maybe not for americans, but for everyone here it is

it's basically a CPU exception

lol I thought there were just for you

I've done mesa mesa-progs.

anyway i might ask them if they can put a cdrom in and start an ssh server so i can do a remote-install that way instead, might save time / be lower-risk

noone can offer any advice?

Nod-ubuntu, now glxinfo | grep direct

that'd be easier, yes.

wesolek, hmm, does the same happen with nodetect when you load 8139too?

Do I need to configure anything from this ? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

what am I supposed to do now? I tried to file a bug report once and it came back to me as I didn't do it right…

Nod-ubuntu, not yet

Such as the videocard drivers and input devices?
Okay

wesolek, ^

Nod-ubuntu, this simply checks to see if you have direct rendering going

Error: unable to open display (null)

astorm, when you just try to load 8139 it hangs… without producing any line of comment

Nod-ubuntu, do have X running?

anyone know if g15tools supports the g11 as well? the ebuilds don't say

I dont believe so.
I'm in CLI - fresh install of gentoo minimal cd

Nod-ubuntu, so you're running it from the terminal?

Yeppers

with the live cd it at least makes it to show the error before it hangs lol… but there are times it won't make it lol

when i ran the command: "make clean && make && make && make modules_install" the first line read awk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file '/usr….. for reading

Nod-ubuntu, you have to start X and then issue the command

How can I make sure I even have X installed?

minor723_2 what are you trying to compile host what kernel?

Nod-ubuntu, try startx

Attempting.

2.6.21-gentoo-r4

bash: startx: command not found

all you need to do is make && make modules_install

emerge x?

wesolek, hmm

Isn't that part of xorg-server?

I will try that, thank you

probably the comment goes to the syslog

astorm, can I find a list of modules needed for my lspci? I'll give it a go

Nod-ubuntu, I suggest you simply emerge KDE, Gnome, or Xfce4

so i have this issuse not sure how it came to be , i updated net.eth0 with etc-update and now i cant seem to get eth0 up

Nod-ubuntu: the bare minimum is emerge xorg-server, but most emerge xorg-x11 which includes xorg-server as a dependency

it acts like it doesnt know what $IFACE is

wesolek, I can tell you what you need

what is it then?

but then, the problem is with the machine - it's buggy and needs a kernel quirk most likely

Nod-ubuntu, that might take a little longer, but it gives you more features, and more friendly environment

mzbot, gentoo Nod-ubuntu xorg modular

I preformed a 'emerge xord-x11 already. Am I suppose to 'emerge kde' now?

Nod-ubuntu: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml

Nod-ubuntu: do you really want kde?

dwm! FTW!

I'd try anyway, astorm

I have emerged java, but when I run javac I get an error that says * javac is not available for sun-jre-bin-1.6 on i686, can anyone help me get javac working?

Yes, I don't have a problem using it. It was suggested last night to me by like 6 people

Nod-ubuntu: emerge kde-meta

I've wasted so much time on it, 2 hours more won't make any difference

Thank you

astorm

I always installed e16 first so I could use graphical programs while KDE built

8139too uhci_hcd ehci_hcd hda-intel
and of course proper SATA support built in

mzbot, gentoo Nod-ubuntu kde-meta

Nod-ubuntu: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/draft/complete/handbook.xml?style=printable&part=1&chap=4

argh

Hello. I would like to talk to someone for some questions regarding Gentoo. I am a windows user who would liket o start using Gentoo despite it's reputation for being difficult because I would like to sincerely learn linux host through using it.

wesolek, wait, I have another idea for a kernel commandline option

mzbot, gentoo Nod-ubuntu kde

Nod-ubuntu: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml

ok

what's the question?

sonokamome, it's got one hell of a learning curve, but if you like that sort of challenge it's incredibly satisfying

wesolek, pci=routeirq

Well I would like to know if there is a LiveCd that I can use to test out Gentoo if possible?

what do you mean by proper sata support built in?

what's the diffference between berkdb and fsfs for running an SVN server?

Gentoo is a 'meta-distribution'

please explain.

there are no 'default' packages installed
you choose what you want to put in

ok booting up….. astorm

bdb… is kind of… volatile.

sonokamome, Not really. I'd say find a few days when you can be comfortable reading docs and playing around with the computer, download a Knoppix ISO and a Stage3 tarball and dive in. That's how I did it.

dude this is killingme i gota get some help

I see.

is it possible to completely remove the panel?

So far I have yet to try Ubuntu and Fedora Core

slaytanic is the contension between them a speed thing? a who came first thing? the wikinode is really vague on this

wesolek, one more thing - boot the machine w/o detection, and paste dmesg output on some pastebin

bdb came first. I doubt you'll see any speed diference.

slaytanic so you'd reccomend fsfs for stablitiy's sake?

So I guess I should do that first and get used to the environment and terminal use before considering Gentoo then.

indeed.

so i have this issuse not sure how it came to be , i updated net.eth0 with etc-update and now i cant seem to get eth0 up it acts like it doesnt know what $IFACE is wheni boot up any it trys to start the network it says "Bring up ……… ok instead of bring up net.eth0

same kernel panic astorm

it is straightforward to install if you read the Gentoo handbook thoroughly, with the Gentoo wiki for any other questions

wesolek, hmm, give me that dmesg output then

I see

ok hold on… astorm

sonokamome, I switched from Fedora to Gentoo back when Fedora was only on Core 4. I used Ubuntu for about a week in between the two. Fedora's a way better learning distro than Ubuntu I think.

wesolek, you might be able to boot with nrcpus=1, but that will disable the second core

friendly12345, speak for yourself, it took me 3 tries to build a kernel that booted.

and it means the mainboard is buggy as hell

So there is no LiveCd to test out then? That's alright I will try out something and stick with it until I get used to it. Then, I will jump into Gentoo since I have heard good things about it. Again I really do want to learn linux

do you think this is the processor?

can't say that I built the kernel the first time either, but the kernel faq on the forum indicated what to do

anyone know of an overlay gimpshop 2.2.11 ebuild would be in?

if i recompile my kermel will i have to do anything to X11 or kde?

no

wesolek, no, buggy mainboard

sonokamome, that's definitely the way to look at it. A friend of mine always used to tell me that if you wanted to learn how to use a distro, use that distro…but if you wanted to learn linux you should use Gentoo.

maybe reinstall your graphic drivers
who wants to try to give me some adive :0

Yeah I was trying to get the Opengl screen savers to work and they would not

no

I must not have something working correctly

What're you telling the poor guy to do to his kernel now?

do I need the xserver?

Direct Rendering may or may not be affected though

vantage, you could always try deleting net.eth0 and then emerge baselayout

Monkeh, I'm trying to get his dmesg output now

lol monkeh….

I already gave him a working kernel

Monkeh, btw, do you per chance know, what is broken there?

Minimal, but bootable and functional

okay

With it locking up due to 8139too?

w/o 8139too, yep?

thank you friendly

No, with.

sloloem what else is included in baselayout will it mess up other configuration files?

how do you burn a music CD with the gnome CD/DVD burner?

Monkeh, yes, could you tell?

It's a simple kernel option. PIO instead of MMIO. One of the 8139too options.

I will have to compile twice i believe

ahha

monkeh, and I can't get the system to start up I knew I'd screw it up

what I did suspect, broken MMIO
wesolek, hmm, you're a bit out of luck

Which is set in the kernel I gave him, the config of which should be used for any other kernel

you need to replace the module

I am going to try to use gensplash, but it told me i had to compile first

and thank you sololme
later

which will be a tiny bit harder now that you don't have a network connection

vantage, looks like all the basic stuff in /etc, /lib/rcscripts, some other junk. You could run equery f baselayout and look for yourself if you have baselayout

He cam just boot off the CD I made for him..

COULD someone be kinda enough to show me there /etc/init.d/net.eth0 and /etc/conf.d/net im almost postive its notthe net configu cause it should work if oneisnt present

wesolek, hmm, so why not use it?

I did

sloloem where is $IFACE defind?

vantage, /etc/conf.d/net.example
read it

i know
i have….

w/o any config file, it should use dhcp
wesolek, well, where does it fail then?

yea thats what i said

is it possible to change distros once installed?

the system on hdd?

yes

brandon_, hmm, very hard

let's now reboot, astorm

wesolek, where does it fail? Boot from hdd, or the livecd?
ahha

now boot from the hdd

so the system from hdd fails
you have to boot the livecd and reconfigure the kernel on hdd

Astorm wanna do me a favor

to twiddle the option
vantage, why not
I can paste my config

can you paste your /etc/ ahah thanks

(sans wlan password)

What, you're using WEP?

init.d/net.eth0

astorm… I simply don't know how to do that…. do you want that dmesg output?

vantage, http://pastebin.ca/622793
vantage, /etc/init.d/net.eth0 should be linked to net.lo
like this:

Wow if you configure your kernel yourself it compiles so much faster!

ln -s /etc/init.d/net.lo /etc/init.d/net.eth0

ok guys… thanks a lot for your help and sorry for wasting your time… I need to go to bed now

thanks

wesolek, uhm, I don't need it
check out genkernel documentation
there is an option to use menuconfig with it
there, I can tell you which option to change

Pff, no need to use genkernel

anyone know why when i try to digest an ebuild it won't get the version # right to fetch the package?

Monkeh, uhm, he does it teh handbook way ;P

He just needs to take the config off my kernel and add any needed bits (SDHCI etc)

Monkeh, or just tweak the PIO option in the default genkernel config
:P

I used genkernel the first time and it took a very long time i just did it manual and man its so freaking fast

ASTORM i was kinda hoping for /etc/init.d/net.eth0 but i have a feeling its gunna be the same it only messed up when i updated it with etc-update

genkernel is bloated and annoying, vs my perfectly working kernel which just needs a few thigns added

vantage, you should link it to net.lo

jesus

Monkeh, … Kernel that loads just what it needs isn't bloated
it might be slower too boot though

does there exist a simple, semi-intelligent, multiplatform file synchronisation tool?

*to

Yeah, and it takes ages to compile

adante, yep, rsync

There are literally hundreds of drivers in the kernel, and genkernel builds them all. Only a handful apply to each machine.

I know, still, it's newbie-friendly

astorm yea im gunna give that a try , im at a friends house cause the was teh only comp on my network at he moment

so no one knows about ebuilds?
sheesh

hm?

why when i try to digest an ebuild it won't get the version # right to fetch the package?

I like newbie friendly things

Correction: You got the version wrong

craptasm, my firefox won't start

is rsync able to stop if the same files have been edited independently?

pastebin the ebuild.

adante, uhm, no

astorm i still dont think thats the problem because ive tried to start net.lo to it just doesnt recognize net.eth0

it's not for collaboration

k, 1 sec

you want some svn, git, or other RCS

it's actually just not outputting it in the wget

vantage, not start
symlink

i don't want full blown version control

hey guys, is it possible that mandriva distr. would work? or it doesn't matter what I try to load?

I gave you the command even

Any distro with the right kernel option set will work.
That is not many.

wesolek, uhm, you just need to fix the kernel

yea i know to link files okay ill go home and give it a shot thanks

just something between, which seems closer to synchronisation than a repos

Should I upgrade to the 2.6.22 (~x86) series on my laptop?

wesolek, it should be possible to fix it from livecd
either manually, or with genkernel

Not unless it has something you'll benefit from

http://rafb.net/p/tGVgir94.html

astorm, monkeh did it for me last night, I have no clue how to do it on my own

will, you can try it, why not
wesolek, hmm, there is a howto on gentoo.org for that

I loaded genkernel, but there were so many options, I just don't know these things so I left it as it was

will, shouldn't break - and you don't have to remove the previous version
wesolek, ah, I can tell you which option to switch
it's just one that prevents the boot

Out of curiousity should VLC running in screen A of a non-xinerama dual head setup be able to full screen video onto screen B?

it's starts booting up, but then it says something about a wrong format or something like that

wesolek, hmm?

I would like to use uvesafb, but I also don't know how much I'd have to re-emerge (laptop-mode-tools, hdapsd, tpctl)

hold on, let me boot up from the hdd

is uvesafb the new user one?
aint it slower than h/w ?

uvesafb sounds like… GREAT NEWS
why didn't I hear about it earlier?

now my hosting provider suggests doing the gentoo install from a minimal centos install

well that was the problem I came here with tonight

hello how can i configure the keys on my keyboard (volume up, down, mute, etc etc) with kde?

anything you see?

Gimme a minute

but I guess it drifted off somewhere else by the time you joined in, astorm

heh.

wesolek, it's probably wrong /etc/fstab

you actually could do it from your full centos install, if you're willing to get a bit funky with the RAID configuration.
it's a RAID-1, right?

yeah i'm mailing them back about the RAID .. thats my only concern
RAID-mirror whatever that is

I have all of my HW working (acpi, cpufreq, hw acceleration, sleep, wireless, etc), I assume a new kernel version will break this?

astorm

and then that the file system couldn't be fix - astorm… let me run the newer kernel

good. force one of the drives out of the array; partition it, set it up with its own separate RAID-1 device (with the other drive, which will still keep CentOS on it during the install process, marked as missing) marked as missing; do your whole gentoo setup on the new drive, boot onto it, and after you've done that successfully, add the CentOS drive to the mirror with the Gentoo on.
s/on.$/one./

wesolek, you really have to modify /etc/fstab as it should be
it's somehow broken on your machine

good idea

that is not surprizing at all

Out of curiousity should VLC running in screen A of a non-xinerama dual head setup be able to full screen video onto screen B?

should I boot up monkeh's cd and then mount the / drive? and chroot?
astorm

wesolek, yep

I'll give it a go then

Could you put that ebuild somewhere which doesn't screw it up?

nm i got it working somehow
errr, or i thought i did
where should i paste it?

You don't want to paste.

wahts a small program
I can test distcc with eemrge
to make sure its workiong properly?

?

Just one more question, after i recompile a kernel, I just want to know what other commands i need to do? I have to add the modules to the make.conf and thats it? Do i have to change grub at all?

You need to upload it somewhere.

Is there a way to control an ATI card's fan speed much like you can control an NVidia card's using nvclock?

ok I'm in, astorm

http://www.speedyshare.com/993871629.html\
http://www.speedyshare.com/993871629.html

Works fine.

astorm, can you help me modify it?

it's not here… wth

I see it's not right

4 (348.01 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/gimpshop-2.2.11.tar.bz2' saved

wesolek, well, change the /dev/ROOT to your / device
the same which you have mounted to get there
set the filesystem correctly too

did you compile the kernel with genkernel?

(it's most likely ext3)

it fails with this: http://rafb.net/p/XSAGqg63.html

I have a multipart 7zip archive with two parts, one ends in .7z.001 and the other .7z.002. When I run "7z x" on the first one though, the resulting file is a corrupt .7z file that can't be read. It should extract a .iso fiile though! How can I get my .iso out of the two-part 7-zip archive?

see how the pkg name and the versin are completely missing?
wtf?

astorm, should I leave it noauto,noatime ???? and some strange numbers? 1 2 or 0 1???

I'l kicking myself for not knowign about module-rebuild populate…

something is very wrong on your end. It works here (though that file is nowhere to be found)

all my other custom ebuilds and portage ebuilds work fine

wesolek, yes, you can
the numbers are required

Well whatever ebuild you just sent me is not the one you're using.

does it mean anything? astorm?

whats a small app? i can test out

sendmail help please. I've got a sendmail running off my localhost. When I try to sent a message by telnetting to the localhost 25, it works.

distcc?

yeah it is, i even downloaded the one i sent you just in case

wesolek, of course, they do
man fstab will tell you

but when I use "mail -s" it doesn't work.

can someone give me the iso download that would work the same as i386?

The line to download the gimp-help tarball is commented out in the ebuild you sent me..

will it mount as it is? astorm?

yeah, that's cuz i commented it out

….

wesolek, maybe

cuz it wasn't working on either of them

Which means it won't try to fetch the file, and it thus works fine.
If you uncomment it.. it just tries to fetch a file which doesn't exist

I can't tell without seeing it

lol astorm, can I just type auto to all of them? except the swap

Downloading 'http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/gimp/help/testing/gimp-help-2-0.9.tar.gz'

yeah, but with it commented, it won't
with or without, it's not working here

It works fine with it commented.
If you uncomment it, you'll have to point it to a file which exists.

Can someone get me a correct link to i386 gentoo?

shm /dev/shm tmpfs ……. should I leave it?

should be comments explaining it
and yes, if you don't understand something, it's generally best host to leave it alone

reisio… then I probably shouldn't be installing linux at all

hi all, this is my first time configureing a wireless ethernet card. lspci shows the device, however iwconfig says that eth0 (wired), lo, and sit0 have no wireless extensions. I'm not sure that all this means

let's not get silly :p

wesolek, should work, yes

I am serious… I can't get it to work

check that fstab 3 times
the /dev/… entries should be correct

TheLorax, You probably don't have drivers for it.
quinton_, What do you mean?

how can you copy and paste in a putty shell?

app-misc/screen

well… like i need a 32 bit install for gentoo?

+hlieberman, yeah most likely. I didn't install any, just started the wireless howto. Are the drivers in the kernel?

quinton_, the x86.

I dont follow reisio

never leave localhost without it :p

TheLorax, Depends on the card, and how you built your kernel.

oh thats what it is?

ok it booted without mounting the network, but it may change once it's connected to the wire

oh, emerge -atv app-misc/screen

astorm

it helps with things like copying & pasting without a mouse

wesolek, ok, check it out then

hlieberman, I built it manually. lspci says "Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG.

quinton_, Yes. x86 is what you want for a 32 bit install, in all likelyhood. for i386, yes.
Ahh.
mzbot, wiki host TheLorax 3945ABG

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_W5F

ok brb astorm

hlieberman, cool thanks.

thanks im going to give it a whirl have a bunch of modules to add

just give a yell if you can't figure it out via the man page, et al.

TheLorax, Er… http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_ipw3945 is a better link.

starting backup

hlieberman, I got to that page from the one you gave me anyway

TheLorax, Did the same thing I did.
TheLorax, Don't bother with the iwlwifi. Just stick to the simpler (but not necessily better) mess that is ipw3945

ok it boots up without any errors astorm

hlieberman, was about to ask.

still far away from what I had in mind though
thanks monkeh, astorm… I need to hit the hay if I don't wanna loose my job lol

hi
can i delete the /portage/distfiles
are those the actual applications?

Those are downloaded source tarballs; you can safely remove them. (They will be downloaded again if needed.)

that's so much sound like pkgsrc
distfiles

thank u
can i run gentoo on a 4 gig drive using slug..
i think its a bit low lol
debian was workign kinda well with ti..

using iwl3945 at the moment, seems fine, but no LED lights

friendly12345, But it's not in portage.

negative
hardmasked, but in portage

teach EnterUSerName about distfaq

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#distfiles

friendly12345, my LED worked in ubunut

can recommend resources that will show me how to correctly emerge java and jdk?

gentoo white_rabbit_obj java hosting guide

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml

guys, anyone knows where i get mercury msn to install at gentoo?

if you're just after browser plugins, just keep an eye out for 'java' and 'nsplugin' USE flags

no, I'm talking about the driver for 2.6.22 kernel and above

eh?

I've been through the gentoo guide a few times already, but I get an error when I run javac

ntie nite astorm, monkeh

white_rabbit_obj u installed a jdk already?

reisio, do u know?

I didn't understand your question

well, I think I've installed a couple out of frustration
at one point I had 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 at the same time

friendly12345, I have no idea what you're talking about then

but compile your java code online didn't work

white_rabbit_obj check out java-config-2

media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1 failed.

reisio, where does i obtain the mercury?
it's a msn client

www.mercury.to
it is not in portage

dont have in portage

^[[32;01m*^[[0m Checking for suitable kernel configuration options…
^[[31;01m*^[[0m ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.

ah, 1min

Isnt that what I am supposed to do?

does have any overlay that contains it?

/usr/lib/jvm/sun-jdk-1.6

that might do the trick — I just cleaned out all of my previous jdk installs so that I can restart this guide from scratch, but I think that's a good place to start troubleshooting

white_rabbit_obj its prob not the "right" way but it works

http://xrl.us/24rf
wiki bonesss 3rd party

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds

Well maybe there will be more peeps around tomorrow to help with sound support
Cya tomorrow :0

alright, I'll have to give that a try…I fine with just getting it to work

I tried install x86 gentoo install… it runs alot of text and never boots an install screen of any sort?

white_rabbit_obj javac -version returns javac 1.6.0_02

have you read the install guide?

errrr on the gentoo site?

yeah

Minor723, don't use the alsa-driver package, use the in-kernel drivers

No to gloat (ok I am a bit), I'm very glad I picked up this Thinkpad R50, I have everything working except hibernation (not going to bother with this) and the fans, any ideas?

will, Have you looked at the thinkwiki?

that's good to know too…for a while I was thinking that maybe there was a problem with the java 1.6 compiler

will, There's an entire wiki dedicated to installing Linux on Thinkpads.

ok, the upgrade to 2.6.22 may fix this anyway

what would be the quickest command-line method of checking why a particular package is masked?

will, cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan might have some useful info.

emerge -pv =product-version ; but am curious is eix, herdstat, or any others also read this information …

timotheus, grep -C (some number) (package) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask

what is a good gnome torrent program?

hlieberman, there is no ibm/fan

run mldonkey and use its web interface
get mldonkey (protocol handler plugin for firefox that adds clicked links to mldonkey server queue)

hlieberman, any /proc/acpi/fan/ is empty

far and away the best solution i've found

will, Oh. Never mind then.

is qt a real long compile?

long enough

woot woot back online

expect at least say 30 mins if you've got a fast machine

took about 20 mins on my athlon xp 2400+

fun
im short on ram and have 2.4ghz p4
I need to get more ram :/
thanks for the estimates though

qt and kde are among the most memory hungry compilations

way up there with app-suck/alzheimers

^ ^

kde rocks

just to make sure that it takes longer I have 3 emerges going in diff terminal windows at the same time

pumice rocks

see if I can burn up the swap space

'updatedb' :p

hmm, never noticed that on the tree

maybe you don't have slocate, etc.

no, app-suck/alzheimers

you must have just forgotten

hehe

way to brutalize the fantasyworld :p

I am getting ready to emerge X, I would like to know how to make it install the nvidia legacy driver instead of the nvidia driver
got a gf4mx440 8x agp card

emerging X doesn't emerge nvidia drivers, unless the open source ones…

yes it does
[ebuild N ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 6,328 kB
part of emerge -avp xorg-server
now - how do I handle this?

look at your video_cards in /etc/make.conf

I did, its set to nvidia - is there an nvidia-legacy setting?

gentoo GeeBus nvidia guide

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

? xorg config

If you just emerge the legacy drivers manually, it should work fine

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

GeeBus logged off?

im here

my auto-complete isn't working — hehe
if you mask x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers then xorg-server ebuild will pull in legacy

my video card might work with the regular drivers

what's a good program to manage wireless network connections with in kde?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html

I would expect so for Geforce 4 ; I think only GeForce 2 and older are "legacy"

I was pretty sure my card was too old for the reg driver
maybe its just the beta drivers I cant use, and I dont care about those
bmaybe its just the beta drivers I cant use, and I dont care about those/b
NICE thank you timotheus
theres hope for me yet

actually, I think the newer drivers killed TNT, and everything /before/ GeForce

Is there a program like PeerGuardian for linux?

how do I get a kernel dump to inspect with gdb later?

Smak, azures, or whatever has a plugin for it

does gentoo's mplayer really not have a gui

brandon_, look up gmplayer

there are core dump options in the hacking/debug section of the kernel config

need gtk use flag for that iirc

azures keeps bugging

definitely off by default, will need to custom compile

anyone familiar with domain name server?

brandon_ is it a text problem by anychance?

have to enable the 'gtk' USE flag

let me check my options…

wiki brandon_ emerge mplayer

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Emerge_MPlayer

this one, net-dns/bind

i'm actually on debian, but i think i'm going to switch to gentoo

thinkin' again?

you use gmplayer, not mplayer

yeah, right after i'm something close to fully configured

has anybody ever had any problems with azureus text being all messed up?

gmplayer being the exec name, not another package

jesus

although there are many other frontends to mplayer

is there a way to get rsync to work over ssh on a nonstandard ssh port?

(3rd party)

how do you make startup scripts for programs?

like to do what?

like gmplayer -nogui

you want to run it from what - a term?
from a DE?

–port perhaps

not entirely sure myself … gmane.linux.kernel.kernelnewbies is a good newsgroup/mailing list to try

decent shells support aliasing (to run from term)
decent DEs support basically the same thing
how did you do it in Debian?
probably the same way :p

ok, yes apparently it is -P for scp and and -p for ssh

if not that, -e 'ssh -p portgoeshere' or similar

I take it back, it didn't work

what didn't work?

gmplayer -nogui

try: mplayer

doesn't sound like something that should work :p

that didn't work either

is there a better way than messing with /etc/conf.d/eth* to seutp things like WEP keys, ESSIDs, etc?

hm

what exactly are you trying to do?

just run mplayer without the skin window controls

how do i get rsync to… sync stuff?

how do you not? :p

mplayer w/o the g should do that, unless you have GUI explicitly in ~/.mplayer/config

when i try rsync -various-elaborate-arguments host:/home/adante/src/asdf /home/adante/src/asdf it says: skipping directory /home/adante/src/asdf

what's the command you're using?

brandon_, if you're playing a movie, you can just type in mplayer path/to/file and you'll only get a window, no gui controls

rsync -av –dry-run ….

try it, you'll get an error in terminal, no such command type of thing

then remove –dry-run if its output looks right

works for me

so -nogui in config

what's the command you're using?

are you saying that this returns an error? which mplayer

mplayer -nogui file

where are you getting '-nogui' from?

oh praise the lord, thanks

'mplayer file'

huh, why would mplayer pull in sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1?

no, just terminal

gentoo jsin2e gcc upgrade

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml

http://pastebin.ca/622847

I believe I have gcc 4.1.2 now

need libstdc++
erm
libstdc++-v3

terminal
should i try it from config?

what about terminal?
the command you want is 'mplayer file' - for example: mplayer ~/music/galaxy_bounce.mp3

I believe there play also…

right, and what about the gui?

what about it?
you tell me
do you want to use the gui or not?

no i do not want to

then 'mplayer foo.mp3' like I said

so, if I emerge libstdc++-v3 I should be able to avoid emerging the entire gcc 3 package?

but then the control window shows up!
i found it
it's -vm
don't know what it stands for though

virutal module?
virtual nmachine?

virtual memory

i'm not sure, but it hides the control window
very minimal
there we go
shoot, but the command doesn't work in config

adante, have you looked at unison?

that was actually my first choice, but trying to get it to work in windows, over a ssh connection, seemed to be the farthest thing from 'simple' that i could fathom
docs suggested installing cygwin and getting it to work with openssh, and which point i figured well hell, now i have cygwin i'll just use rsync

adante, right i missed that requirement :-/

bug 184575

https://bugs.gentoo.org/184575 tri, P2, All, gentoo@profvince.com-security@gentoo.org, RESOLVED, FIXED, net-irc/xchat security flaw in new scrollback/text replay feature when joining channels with a slash

as it turns out unison has a cygwin package so merhaps i'll try that next time, depending how adventurous i feel

after editing zone file, how do i activate it?

what is the keyboard shortcut to adjust volume in mplayer

/ and * on numpad is one set
wiki brandon_ multimedia keys

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys

might prove useful

does mplayer always start with 100% volume?

starts with what you last used

rndc reload

cool
this is working really well

indeed

Hey guys, I have a couple issues with my mplayer. 1) I can't get it into full screen mode (the window will maximize, but the video stays small) 2) I can't figure out how to configure loop mode for the gui

is there any standalone menu program?

check your video output options

where?

to be used with…?

in mplayer/gmplayer

check your -vo

hi

'lo sarts

I'm using the gui version. so I'm not sure where to configure it…

reisio boss i'm using a wm with no menu
lol

it's a conf file, 1min
which wm?

all i got is a terminal window and pypanel
well beryl with pypanel and urxvt

I'm having a bit of trouble setting up NXbuilder… I can't get the Setup.php part to work… I fill in the data on the page, but when I click accept, it tells me: "Cannot write dump file"

no de

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/faq.html#id2554511

hehe, there are only two times when i run out of cpu-cycles… when simulating brains and installing gentoo…