google is probably your best bet for this type of thing.

I'm sorry for bothering that long

np, and congrats

ok thanks

hm? no problem..

it goes into standby after like 10minutes anyway

but I mounted my /dev/hda2 drive under /home/benny

OHH… i wouldn't have done that. i'd have mounted it to /home

yeah , or as "none" with some binds?

and put a dir 'benny' (and any other user's home dir) on it.

rss-glx looks cool

is there still a way to mount it as "none" and create two directories on it, one my home dir and one for games?
the main problem is "mounting it at two points" I guess

sorta. what you need to do is: cd /home/benny; mkdir benny; mv * benny/; mv .??* benny/; cd /; umount /home/benny; rmdir /home/benny; mount /dev/hda2 /home
do you have anything else in /home right now?

yeah, that's what I wanted to do anyway

or just /home/benny?

no, just benny

cool.
after that then make 'games' or whatnot.

but if I mount it as /home, I can't create "games" on it "invisible"
there was a "/home/games" dir then…. ?

why does it need to be invisible? do you really care if /home/games is the same as /usr/share/games ?

yeah

why?

anyone here ever use a bytecc RAID controller?

make it .games then

hehe, yeah that'll work… at least you wont see it

because I know myself… one day I wonder "what stupid idiot created the games user?" *delete*

never heard of it. is it real raid, or fakeraid?

that sounds like a biosraid ?

benny99, xD

how much did it cost?

English… worse… every minute…

It's not a bios RAID, it's a PCIE raid card, but I don't know if it's some kind of fakeraid snake oil

did it cost less than USD$200 ?

_AxS_, ya, 50 bucks

Kuprin, you want to know if it has a dedicated risc processor?

biosraid/fakeraid then

my swap is mounted as "none" anyway

k

benny99, thats normal

Just use it as a plain SATA controller, and use Linux software RAID. Works very well.

cruxeternus, planning to dual-boot though

Kuprin, no problem

Is it possible to mount my partition as "none", create "benny" and "games" dirs on it and bind those directories to /home/benny and /usr/share/games ?

Kuprin, you got the hardware

yo

hi there. I'm trying to write an initscript for gentoo. the handbook explains the base functions, but doesn't explain how the scripts get interpreted. seems to resemble bash but with some differences here and there. where can I find more detailed info on the exact syntax?

benny99, err… id think you need to mount it somewhere, but then im no wizard by any means

are you planning to raid both windows and linux? if not, mdraid will work fine for linux
i can't find any info on fedora linux dmraid support (or other support) with that card, so…

a wizard! that's an idea o_o!

how do I disable horizontal scroll on my touchpad?

no, better not

'none' is the filesystem type. it is unused in the case of –bind or mounting proc

no, it's the target dir of swap for example

_AxS_, and Linux generally doesn't support biosraid at all?

another case where the value is unused.

benny99, well, swap is never "mounted", so…

a lot of cards are supported. google for 'dmraid' to see the list

Also, Windows is so slow I don't care that much if it gets raid or not.

yeah

if you create another mount point, then you can –bind your home dir _and_ your games dir to other parts of your filesystem.

_AxS_, hmm…might there be a way to get my nvidia raid card to work?

benny99, im not sure what you are trying to do, but run it by me again and i might hoze your system for you. deal?

ie, say, you make a dir /mnt/seconddrive and mount /dev/hda2 there.
yep. nvidia cards are supported iirc

_AxS_, interesting, now how do I make it see that it's in RAID mode?

what type of raid is it?

_AxS_, striping only, between two drives. It's already set up in the BIOS and a Windows install is on there.

ah ok.

_AxS_, but Gentoo only sees the windows partition on sdb by default

boot the livecd with 'dodmraid'

righty-o

hoze ._. ?

and then you'll see the partitions in /dev/mapper/[biglongstrings]
…that part is important. do not access /dev/sd*

benny99, make pearshaped

yeah, why not, chown root dir and chmod norightsfornobody dir
and I got the same

huh?

:-[ ? pear ?

benny99, screw up, real bad

hm, ok, I knew it already then ^^

make pearshaped && make install

make: *** No rule to create pearshaped. End (translated it myself, sorry :-[)

^^

it isn't stable yet, but something you could do us use unionfs or aufs to overlay hdb2 on top of your filesystem.
that would give you the transparency. but like i said, it is not stable.

no, I found my idea great ^^

got it, thanks guys. Now how does a dmraid device like that interact with GRUB?

yeah, but I don't need it

grub ignores it — grub uses bios calls to access via the same interface windows uses.

weel cruxeternus (this is CRX3) no wheel on that sys still. I have tried the mose from a scrolling sys on it and same thing. and put the mm+ on scrolling sys and it scolls there fine. What next?

cool. gl

_AxS_ okay, so (0,0) will be the first partition on the raid drive, etc?

yep

thanks :-[, thanks so far

wiki Kuprin dmraid install

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_with_NVRAID_using_dmraid

SWEET! my problems are solved!
I knew Gentoo would work, it always does!

try to avoid dmraid, it's a bit evil

I have also tried evev settings from the gentoo wiki, no scroll then either cruxeternus

nolimitsoya:

DrEeevil, howso?

meh.

what about your name ^^ ?
does it mean "good" for a "Dr.Eeevil" :p ?
sorry, am gone :-[

benny99 if anyone should know what is evil DrEeevil will

it is much harder to use than software-raid

Kuprin: the proglem with it is that thre are no linux tools to maintain the raid. but with a raid0 there isn't anything you can do anyways.
proBlem

ah yes, raid 0 … prolonged data suicide

:P

Prolonged data suicide? O_o
howso?

Kuprin, one failed drive==massive dataloss

Ugh. I don't know what to tell you then. We've confirmed the hardware works fine, but X doesn't receive any events from the wheel.

True.
but you can say the same on a single-drive setup like most people have.

Kuprin, besides, the performance benefit is almost nill, if you dont read several megabytes of data at a time, and you never do on a desktop
Kuprin, na, you realy cant…

true. however probability states that you're more likely to lose the drive if you stripe across two.

mhm

Kuprin, see, the data loss is double in the raid0 case

nolimitsoya, only because you have double the disk space…

i dayly transfer few terabytes betwen disks

Kuprin, nope

daily*

have you already tried "xev" to make sure that X isn't seeing input from the wheel?

but an error drops the whole image (both drives) not just the bad part

Oh, another idea.

well, in theory

jacekowski, good for you. i suspect you are not the average user, are you

Try the imps2 protocol, instead of the mouseman one.

Can I DO 0+1 in dmraid?

on desktop - yes

yep

no*

if you're 32bit, you can do raid4 and raid5 too
but you need 4 drives for those

*

_AxS_ I'm amd64, and I don't have 4 drives.

you only need 3 drives for raid5

three drives for raid5

true

dmraid is evil. don't do it unless you have to. you're better off using the in-kernel software raid.

Now that I think about it, I'm almost certain that will fix your problem.

why does everyone slag dmraid? its not that bad.. i use it in production

and why would you need 32 bit?

there's no dmraid raid5 in amd64 kernels yet

oh weird, I hadn't noticed

it is rather painful, in general

_AxS_, it is that bad… proprietary, closed in "no you may not move to another controller without dumping and restoring" algorithms are evil by default
besides, the hardware acceleration provided by even dedicated raidprocessors is overrated…

cruxeternus I dont use it on my other gentoo sys that works with both mouses, why would I need it here?

stop that common sense attack

i'm not saying there aren't drawbacks, but if it's the hardware you have.. besides, i rather like being able to, upon failure of my raid1, having the bios restore the second drive's image. it makes it brain-dead easy for the others in my office to do it

or rather here

Not sure. But I seem to recall that I needed imps2 protocol with that mouse. It might have been the first mouse I ever used on a Linux system.

yes, I did. and it doesnt

Specifically to solve the wheel problem.

_AxS_, rebuilding a software raid is far easier, and you dont stand the risk of having bad controllers ruin your day

I've used a raid5 spread over 3 controllers

*

what player can play .rmvb?

xmetal, anything xine with the real uselfag

ok I will try that, but it seems wierd that the same distro would need a different setup for the same hdwr

Hmmm…well, I also plan on multibooting, and having RAID there would help. Can I do the following? Root and Swap software raid 0+1, Fat32 shared partition no raid, Windows either no raid or a Windows-based software raid?

nolimitsoya, i tried mplayer with real use flag but him cant play

xmetal, the try something running xine

yo uneed 4 drives to do raid0+1

ok
i will try

xmetal, kaffeine if youre the qt type, or gxine if you are loveable

because you stripe two raid1's

nolimitsoya, whats the name in portage of xine?

see above…

I never understood why my MouseMan needs the Microsoft Intellimouse protocol either. But it worked for me then.

_AxS_, aha, it works in reverse. Hmmm…

well it can go either way — a mirror of two stripes or a stripe of two mirrors..
anyhow, you need 4 drives
also, as far as i am aware with biosraid you have to work with full drives — cant do just partitions.

Yeah, with biosraid that's the case

_AxS_, with intel you can

Hey, when attempting to emerge kcontrol, i'm getting an error about the QT version not being the same as the one used to install kdelibs. I am currently running 3.3.8 - but can see 4.3.0 is available. Will all be resolve if I just upgrade qt?

One thing I wonder is why RAID 1 doesn't give much/any performance increase. Shouldn't you be able to do parallel access the same way you can with striping?

that's with their ich7 right? iirc that's supported in the sata driver directly isnt it?
it does

Kuprin, yes you can, and raid1 does give plenty of a performanceboost

reading is 2x faster (or actually Nx faster)

Okay, then we'll go raid 1

writing is the speed ofthe slowest drive

AxeZ, no its not…

ok cruxeternus but as I said it does not need it on the other sys (same mouse, same distro, same xorg)

and of course, yo udon't have 2x the space

nolimitsoya, ?

Well yeah, obviously, but I have 500gb right now, like hell I need that

redoing conf now

Kuprin, the major benefit of raid1 is that you can seek two individual files at one time, given they are smaller than the stripeset

tab error

*nodnod*

AxeZ, sorry…

Same motherboard and PS/2 hardware interface?

np

so why is dmraid a problem with raid 1?

it's a problem?

Kuprin, software raid über alles

nolimitsoya, if you know so much about software raid, how would I effectively use it in a multiboot system?

Kuprin, you wouldnt

nolimitsoya, bingo.

both ps/2, but no….. diff mobo (AMD cs no workee, NForce2 workee)
^^

Kuprin, youd either run windows on an emulation layer, _or_, youll use the windows software raid for the windows partitions and the linux raid for the fedora linux bit

There's Windows software raid?
Is it FOSS?
Or at least free?

in the enterprise versions

Kuprin, it comes with the pack

orly. That works.

hmm damn is there a way to remove the kdebase dependency of k3b ?

XP Pro can do mirroring

– has XP Pro

windows and free … you are really funny

_AxS_, stripe aswell

but that takes the whole drive, iirc. and i think you're screwed if u try and make linux partitions on it.

DrEeevil, I just haven't gotten that death ray to point at Redmond yet, man

_AxS_, never played with it much, but i bet it can do higher modes as well…

..but i'm a little fuzzy on that
higher needs Terminal Server

_AxS_, might well be

Also might want to compare your kernel options related to PS/2 drivers. But I think the differences in hardware might be the issue.
Anyway, if it *doesn't* work, you can always change it back.

Kuprin, the downside on windows software raid is that you cant boot of it. besides, are you sure raid would be any benefit to you?

does anyone know how to get rid of printers that showed up in cups via browsing? I turned off browsing on the local system and on the remote system and restarted cups

huh? yes you cna
can*

_AxS_, no you can't boot from Windows software raid

_AxS_, since when?!

i have a server that boots its windows software raid1
well, its no my server, as my servers dont run windows.. but

_AxS_, aha, manfile doesn't mention raid1…

_AxS_, on windowsxp?

yeah

_AxS_, how on earth does that happen? ive never been able to create raidarrays at install…
_AxS_, ive not found any docs for it either
_AxS_, is this professional or server?

HI apache2 is shut down because it says it needs net.eth0~ ? can someopne help me figure this out???!!!!

sec, i'll get the link
and then pm it to u to keep things slightly on topic in here

_AxS_, what? windows software raid is always ontopic in the gentoo channel

http://pastebin.com/m3d380a43

only as in raiding the windows to install Linux software on the disks.

I have net.eth0 working but apache2 says it cannot start due to net.eth0~ not working ?

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles.php?type=3&id=51&page=1&desc=dual_boot_raid_windows_and_linux Found this, this looks really neat guys

ok i cant find it right now, but it is a dynamic storage thing.

nolimitsoya, you can't create them at install, you have to create them after you install

_AxS_, yes, but google doesnt know anything about booting of it…
Kuprin, thats what i thought aswell

Why would you want to dual boot windows and linux on RAID systems?

i didn't look anything up on booting it, i just did it and it worked
but, as i mentioned, i dont think you can dual-boot it

That's just silly. Raid belongs to critical systems, which are not the type of system you reboot much.

ok cruxeternus wheel works with IMPS/2 ( :/\ }{ ) . but the thumb button does not. I just cant have it all I guess

hehe

is there a kernel parameter to tell kernel to not use default ide chipset for harddisk ?

And they are certainly not the type of system you dual-boot.

let me guess, 2.6.22 kernel upgrade?

yes
cdrom seems to need it

i havent dealt with this yet, but someone will chime in soon i hope
i know there's a solution

and as I side note cruxeternus wheel does not work through my KVM on either sys. but that does not surprise me. I have not used the mouse through it, as I had this issue with KVM's and mice since the mid 90's

yes you could just disable it in the kernel but then the cdrom wont work

no there's a way they can co-exist

oh please tell me

actually, have you tried tha pata driver in libata?
doing that and adding scsi cdrom support might do you ok

_AxS_, as i guessed (and asked), windows _server_ is able to boot of raid1 and raid1 only, while that option is not available to the professional users

_AxS_ I have been wondering about that PATA driver myself

..except it worked in my xp pro install

s/professional/rich/

DrEeevil,

(i'm 99.9% sure that they didn't fork out for windows server)

_AxS_, then .1% it is

RAID 1 is just a mirrored disk set-up, of course windows can boot from it.

RobbieAB, my thoughts as well

yes that's the one my harddisk needs

yeah — as long as windows recognizes dynamic volumes its fine right?

It doesn't use the RAID though, so disk 2 is liable to not match when you switch back to Linux

and xp pro does, so youre good. [/windows-raid-topic]

stop trying to set-up RAID on dual-boot machines. It doesn't make sense.

i concur

RobbieAB, hes not…

Who is?

so no idea on the thumb button cruxeternus ?

RobbieAB, _AxS_ is not trying to dualboot on raid

join www.filebits.org

Then why all the talk?

windows is not able to boot of software raid1 unless its enterprise
RobbieAB, Kuprin is

I'm trying to set up raid on a dual-boot machine.

Windows should be able to boot from a RAID 1 disk, irregardless of the version, because it just doesn't SEE the fact it is raid.

so Kuprin needs a software raid that can be recognized by win AND lin?

thats what he wants yes

WOW

RAID wouldn't give enough of a speed boost to windows to matter.

it's called hardware raid and costs too much

RobbieAB, any references to that?

wow.. we just keep going in circles dont we…

CRX3, or two that can work side by side, dividing disks

hmmm
how about we say no to windows and stop discussing it?

straight forward logic. For RAID to work for speed, you need to have a VFS layer that can exploit it.

and RAID1 is for saftey not for speed he wants striping if he needs speed instead of sanity

RobbieAB, but you also need to make sure you dont end up with an inconsistent array once booted…

not true - with multiple disks, reads get divided across each. your seek times go down and throughput goes up

CRX3, diffrent kinds of benefit

To use linux software RAID with windows, you will end up with so many wrapper layers round all disk access, it will actually be slower.

thats what I said

CRX3, no, i ment the performance benefit differs

ndiswrapper for raid???? lol

only if you don't end up loosing performance due to wrapper layers.

yes I agree DrEeevil this needs to go to #gentoo-chat

oh god lol
if I software-raid ONLY my Gentoo / partition, will other operating systems (Windows, Ubu) be smart enough not to eat it?

Kuprin, hopefully

true. however fortunately the implementation of these layers in linux are efficient enough to show this benefit

ie, will they see something there on both drives, or will one of them look like unpartitioned space?

mdraid works on a partition. so yes. you'll see a partition on each drive. if you dont touch that partition you will have no issues

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Kuprin, MS OS's will see it as unknown type and should not touch it if it's linux software raid

ubuntu will access it if you have dmraid support in your kernel.

_AxS_, I'm talking Linux software raid, not dmraid.

as am i
linux software raid = mdraid
dmraid = biosraid

oh, you typo'd dmraid and not mdraid. Okay.

oops so i did

Hehe, that solves that confusion.
okay, time to figure out a partition scheme then.

what happened?

Is there any virus's known to linux?

10GB should be good for Windows boot…what's good to put as a 10gb standalone Gentoo partition?

:s

ClNorris, not many, and none in active circulation right now

with mdraid you'll be building a separate mirror for each partition, essentially. or maybe you can use lvm and sub-partition the big mdraid block. dunno

Kuprin, cool

_AxS_, yeah, separate mirrors for each partition is the plan

ClNorris, there are a small handfull and not that active

_AxS_, that lets me dual boot, have a fast RAID, and not care what my Windows setup does because it's Windows anyway. The priority is fast Linux.

if you're not planning to have too much installed, 10gig can work for everything in / but /var and /home

why is nsplugin disabled for various JDKs and JREs in default-linux/x86/package.use.mask?

grknight, if linux becomes a bigger desktop for end users, virus production will increase. Will linux still that safe??

ClNorris, who knows?

but i'd recommend giving 20 minimum

ClNorris, any OS is only as "safe" as the user makes it

oh, don't raid your swap.

grknight, exactly.

Linux will never grow that much … because humanity is too stupid and too lazy to bother with

hello! does anyone know how can I verify in a script that a certain useflag is in effect for a certain (not installed yet) package - in any conf file or on the command line?

Question, my volume is unmuted, and i hear sounds, but my volume icon in gnome says its still muted.

by nature of the beast, 'viruses' per se can't really affect linux. other things can of course (trojans, etc)

swap on RAID does have some benefits.

_AxS_, I know that, but make one swap on each drive and give them the same priority, they will stripe.

they ll all stick to windows

yep

Santanabaer, if lazyness is the issue, ubuntu is far easies than windows to set up and use…

Santanabaer, dell has released a line of computers loaded with linux for end users.

Santanabaer, did you hear XP is being discontinued at the end of this year? I don't think they will. Also, I spent less time setting up Gentoo than I did Windows last time.

Santanabaer, *home users

only if you mirror it so you dont lose the memory on a drive failure… it is slower tho

people dont wanna learn new things
they are cousy

psih0man, `equery u -a =(package)-(version)`

or is there something i'm missing?

Kuprin, did you hear that they are going to replace Vista in 3 years?

ClNorris, that's mostly an attempt to trademark the number 7 in the US so they can attack everyone in court.

Kuprin, and they are doing away with the start menu.

is version mandatory?

if I was even contemplating RAID for speed, I would look at faster disks first.

true

lol Kuprin I didnt hear that new for me

RobbieAB, I already have some pretty fast disks.

psih0man, no.. but if you just do `equery u -a package` you'll get them all for every ebuild that exists

of course they will phase out xp. Arm-twisting is what Vista's all about.

15k rpm SATAII raptors?

Hey all, I am having issues with webapp-config on AMD64, it is saying that it needs apache 1.3.x when I have apache 2 installed. I am using the same flags as my i386 box that runs happily on apache2. any ideas?

then i might | uniq them … ?

Arm-twist arm-twist arm-twist. I only know of one person who bought it because they just wanted it, and he's a cretin.

webapp-config? is it the same version?

anyone know where to start with developing my own Desktop manager?

psih0man, if you want

llol

..as your other system

yes

probably by reading the source of any of the other projects

RobbieAB, not quite that crazy, no. 7400 SATAII barraccudas.

No, RAID on mirror is what I was referring to.

_AxS_, that would be lazy wouldn't it?

could someone tell me what package provides libkrb5?

I rebulit both systems at the same time this weekend

ay caramba!

I only have so much money, and software raid doesn't cost money

http://robobunny.com/projects/weatherspect/html/

oh, i was talking specifically about swap on raid

Kuprin, good luck with software raid!

amd64 stable versiona and x86 stable versions are different.

so if you need speed enough to consider striping your swap, I would upgrade the disks first.

I guess you are bored and have a lot of time at disposition that you wanna mess with the source of other window managers to create your own

are they the same version?

swap on mirror RAID is what I meant

ah

My lag is really bad…

Santanabaer, having alot of time is just a figure of speach, I have too much time.
*speech

lol ClNorris

RobbieAB, I just want to maximize what I have.

not really — u have any idea what the size of the gnome codebase is?

Is anybody else having problems building apache-2.0.58-r2 with USE=ldap?

there's an ebuild for that in berkano overlay

Santanabaer, i am just upset with how gnome and kde make their applications look so bland

I guess he doesnt wanna know

i know ^^
i find it hilarious xD

..wouldnt it make sense then to build themes?

hehe

_AxS_, probably extremely large, but… I will eventually get bored and give up.

if you really want to put your Windows on to a Linux compatable software RAID I would sugggest looking at Xen-Linux with a VT coapable CPU and shove windows into a VM

guys, i have my mobile phone which gets /dev/ttyACM0 but can only be accessed by the root. If i change the permission, reconnecting the mobile resets the permission, how do i make it accessible by all user by default ?

emerge -p webapp-config
shows 1.50.10

RobbieAB, I'm not that worried about the Windows at this point.

_AxS_, that is what everyone says to do, but the theme isn't what bothers me. Its how KDE and GNOME make their applications blocky

_AxS_:err .15

_AxS_, i want beautiful applications….

game_boy, what group gets set.. is it plugdev?

Does Linux software raid care whether partitions are primary or logical?

nope

i dunno, how do i check that ?

stop worrying about disk access speed. Get most stuff to run of RAM without swapping, and disk speed stops mattering much

let him play

no

game_boy, replug the devices then `ls -l /dev/ttyACM0`

Kuprin, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID

KDE is astoundingly gorgeous, if you customise it nicely.

arright

I just want to get the absolute most out of this system, lol.

i did equery u -a kopete &1 | grep "+ +" and it returns nothing even if without grep i have a long list

besides, having a raid1 isn't exactly a horrible thing

mirror the disks, and get enough RAM that you don't need to swap

runlevelten, in case you missed what I was saying… Its not the desktop manager.. Its how the applications are programmed. I don't want to divide a window into 9 blocks so that I can have something centered at the top or middle.

can you rafb.net/paste the error you're having?

Can you get software money now?

I agree. RAID 1 or higher is good.

psih0man, what's that &1 business for? just pipe it

RobbieAB, I was planning on raid 1, both for speed and the reliability is nice.

did that, too

"could not load /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r5/modules.dep: No such file or directory".. too much scratches on the cd right?

Anyone know how to program with Xlib?

not much speed boost for RAID 1

it gets set to "root" group

Qt layouts don't require that.

i thought it would print on &2

RobbieAB, significant read speed, no write speed

http://pastebin.ca/640738

&1 puts stderr, stdout, etc together

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Can someone help me my driver installation?

..i think

could we put a disclamer on the download link for the livecd?

10:57

I'm following the handbook but no luck

i know, thats me

that is correct

webapp-config -I -h myadmin -d phpmyadmin phpmyadmin 2.10.1
_AxS_:* Fatal error: Your configuration file sets the server type "Apache"
_AxS_:* Fatal error: but the corresponding package does not seem to be installed!

that is correct

_AxS_:* Fatal error: Please "emerge =net-www/apache-1.3" or correct your settings.
_AxS_:* Fatal error(s) - aborting

?

_AxS_, you're semi-familiar with windows software raid, those dynamic disks can be on logical partitions too, right?

psih0man, try `equery u -a kopete|grep "+"`

tnx

pls think hard now and remember!

sorry, term irc copy/paste issues

are you there ?

no. windows dynamic volumes tale over the entire drive. its not partition-related

ah no problem

you can of course get the best host out of your system … but I believe "best" can be seen from different point of views … I mean you can create hfs, jfs and other experimental partions (as example) but then it might lack of stability

Anyone who can aid me?

take

runlevelten, i am using gnome…

guys, i have my mobile phone which gets /dev/ttyACM0 but can only be accessed by the root. If i change the permission, reconnecting the mobile resets the permission, how do i make it accessible by all user by default ?

_AxS_, what the crap? Not according to what I'm reading…that sounds scary

What actually stops you making a Qt app?

runlevelten, is for KDE correct?

game_boy, it says "brw-rw—- 1 root root"?

this is when you run it? or when you emerge it?

_AxS_, according to what I'm reading you can convert a partition to a dynamic disk.

or crw*

check out udev rules

write a uder rule for it

nope. you can convert a _drive_.

Anyone use kern .23rc with nvidia drivers successully?

I mean, if one library/toolkit doesn't work how you want it, you use another, surely?

at least from my experience.

ClNorris:

1

_AxS_, only one way to find out. Time to try it.

how do i make udev rule, can you please help ?

there's nothing to stop you writing a Qt app that functions nicely in Gnome

yep, use udev

runlevelten, I would imagine. But I was under the impression that QT was soley for KDE

game_boy, then you need a udev rule to change it.. lots of info online about that

good luck.. fair warning, it seems to be a one-way process

No

_AxS_:That is when I run it

runlevelten, is there an application that is made for GNOME that uses QT

you read the instructions, and experiemnt until it works

ClNorris, any QT app can run in the gnome desktop

Someone, anyone..

It is a long time since I last did anything in udev, and I can only vaguely remember it.

grknight, how come the install manual said to -QT in the USE flags when installing gnome?

http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html

Define for gnome. You can fully support gnome as the DE, but the Gnome project itself doesn't use Qt as its gui toolkit

_AxS_, hold on, how one-way are we talking here? Formatting it from Linux will still handle it right?

is there a way to see all active useflags for the system (including those set by the profile)?

dunno

ClNorris, because it's not required.. you can turn it on if you want

grknight, do i need to emerge QT?

could well be. Have you tried with a new CD?

ClNorris, any package that uses it will pull qt

Yeah, okay, tha'ts way too hazardous for me

you might consider having Qt and Gtk either way for a desktop machine running GUI apps, tbh.

I'll go with Linux software raid and no raid in windows

s/uses/requires/

Gonna try now heh. Thanks for the confirmation

i believe it replaces the partition table.. so i really dont know

grknight, which would you prefer to to design QT applications?

_AxS_, yeah, I just read it does. That's way too ugly and dangerous.

ClNorris, i don't write software

i agree

grknight, what do you use linux for?

_AxS_, besides, I do 90% of my work in linux anyway

ClNorris, best OS at this time

grknight,

I use Qt Designer. It's probably the best Free GUI builder on GNU/Linux.

I loathe windows, and only use it when I absolutely have to. Problem is I'm in game development research, so it does come up.

You'll forgive me for this contentious statement, but glade et al are like childrens toys by comparison.

runlevelten, may I ask how you design applications then?

is there an ebuild for qt designer ?

what how I design the GUI?

And the flaming starts.

runlevelten, yes

Partition wise I'm separating /boot, /usr, and /home from everything else, how big do you guys think I should make /usr?
I was thinking about 50 gigs or so.

yeah that's cool.

I have no idea, my development platform is very much a work only machine and isn't gentoo

then again, I can't exactly back up /usr to anything, but whatever. Still gives me a narrower point of failure.
(I can't afford to go backing up 50 gigs on a regular basis, lol)

With Qt Designer. It's very much like insert powerful commercial GUI painter here
With Qt Designer. It's very much like insert powerful commercial GUI painter here

runlevelten, lol

i keep all but /home and /var on the same partition, within 20gig

fair enough, I don't need anything in /var since I'm not serving

i stopped doing that.. allways ran into problems having seperate partitions full.. and security wise.. no document has ever shown my _why_ seperate partitions are safer

hmm wonder if i can use qt designer in c#

runlevelten, can i emerge qt designer?

it's build space and working directory space… handy to give it a fair chunk.

laen, mostly backup and failure related, really…you have a point, I can just back up the specific mount points anyway

seperate partitions make it hard for a user to fill your harddrive and stop logs from being written

it's pretty much language agnostic.

ah ok

yeah wasn't telling you, just opening a small point of discussion, maybe i'd even learn something from you

iull give it a go
dont like glade much

although if you want to you can write stuff *in* qtd in c c++, I tend to save to a .ui and do that work elsewhere

you mean separate partitions serve as a crude form of quota set-up?

okay, we're going mdraid. This should work now.

Glade isn't…isn't the most polished program ever.

i use monodevelop for my coding, i just need an app to create the gui

I have no idea how good/existent qt/mono is, heh

The benefit of separate partitions is it allows you to use different file-systems for different parts of the file-system (sigh…)

Separate partitions also allow you to specify that certain parts of the filesystem should not contain devices or executables

and it allows some bits to be mounted ro when others must be rw.

is there some kind of PIM application w/o a GUI?

it also makes it easier to spread the filesystem out over multiple devices.

say using ncurses

it can make back-ups easier…
do I need to continue?

Regarding my problem getting X to work decently, I've now gone through the Gentoo X Guide one more time. I get the following error when trying to startx: http://pastebin.com/m3d380a43 and this is how my xorg.conf looks like: http://pastebin.com/m21a5f426

You're the first to give all that info

It has its uses, yes. I have to decide if they're actually worth it over just making a big monolithic / on my machine.

anyone able to help me out with my wireless problem ? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-573390.html

Thanks, good points. It's just so hard to figure out what size it needs to be.

what video card do you have?

I can see it being a lot more useful on a public system, mainframe, server, etc

aaroe posting your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file would be helpful too

now all those points aren't really that relevant for a personal machine. I would just split of /boot and /home from the rest

Well, one of my troubles was the /var dir which i made only 2GB, then i had another partition which was too big.. meh.
bWell, one of my troubles was the /var dir which i made only 2GB, then i had another partition which was too big.. meh./b

I need a PIM application to work in console envoronment

Well, putting together a new webserver now heh

LVM. Makes the partition size problem a lot easier.

Well, gonna do software raid1. And Hardened Gentoo on top of that.

throw LVM in as well for good measure.

runlevelten, how do I get QT designer?

LVM seems tempting, how much work is it to set up?

With no experience anywhere.. dunno, rather not. Gresecurity has RBAC

_AxS_ It's a ATi Radeon 9600

the gentoo homepage does not specify a color for links, who should I talk with about this?

fair enough. I would suggest /boot /home and a /data

tdr_ coming right up…

ok. and what is in your VIDEO_CARDS in make.conf?

/data?

For the stuff apache is going to be allowed access to.
or lighttpd or whatever your httpd is.

Well the users are gonna put their websites in /home/public_html..

Ah. Read all the how-tos.

try bugzilla, but i'm afraid nobody really cares about the homepage

did you figgure it out? was that error you pasted a runtime thing or a compile/emerge-time thing?

what are you saying with that

And when you think you know how to secure the system, read all the how-tos again.

_AxS_ VIDEO_CARDS="fglrx"

ah ok.
so you're following http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers ?

I don't use it in Gentoo, but word on the street is it comes with qt…

runlevelten, thank you

s/in/on/

yngwin, i'll do that (and I hope somebody cares, yellow links over white background are nice )

Yeah, it will be something i'll be constantly working on and learning from. just hope the users won't experience too much trouble

No, actually just the X Guide, but it mentioned the different inputs for nvidia and ati cards

What I'm saying is if you aren't very experienced, it is going to be very easy to leave large holes in the system security with that set-up

that is a runtime error, Still working on it. But my job is getting in the way
_AxS_:thanks for the help

that could be part of your issue. try that howto, it is geared directly to what you want

Ok, I'll do that. Thanks.

ah ok. no idea in that case. i don't have a machine i can install it on to test either

Oh well to start with, to get ssh access you need to be in a special group i create.. then vsftpd locks the ftp part down.. grsec/pax the rest, and it's rbac.

I would be more worriesd about the httpd set-up

why?

would you know why compiz-999 , amarok , krusader , k3b depend from kdebase ? and do you believe I could somehow deinstall kdebase ?

No biggie, figured some one might slap me in theface with the obvious

laen: how about moving this to #gentoo-server? mainly so i can eavesdrop without having the rest of the channel chat

hey all

weird what package has lspci
lol

heh sorry

i've added the 'real' USE flag, and now for whatever lame reason, my system wants to install sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1? eh?

lspci is in pciutils

for some reason it isn't showing up on my computer

yvw

i dont use kde…..sorry. but no, afaik you need some form of kdebase to run kde apps like that.

why? Because the httpd will be exposed to the internet, meaning it is going to be one of the most vulnerable components of the system.

whether it is meta or mono

Every option you switch on in it, opens up the potential of another security hole.

I know, I kno, heh

ahh alright thx _AxS_

because those apps have dependencies for mime handling, preview generation etc etc

teach b1f30_w0rk about libstdc++

To fix a python missing libstdc++.so.x, run "find /usr/lib/ -name "libstdc++.so.*"", add the path to the dir libstdc++.so.x is in to /etc/ld.so.conf, run "/sbin/ldconfig", run "gcc-config -l", run "gcc-config numberOfNiceProfile", run "env-update". (details:
gentoo-detailed/python%20libstdc++)

well but what about konqueror I mean its a kde thing too

Yep, locking that and it's config file down too. But _AxS_ asked us to stop

ok thats not it
emerge libstdc++-v3

for instance, some apps used to rely on arts in an apparently inexplicable way, but it was because people had movie previews enabled, etc

hmm ya

no, i asked u to move, so i can read it elsewhere. i'm interested
and besides, #gentoo-server is dead and really shouldn't be

Oh didn't see Where to? #gentoo-server?
Allright

anyone able to tell me why i can't find lscpi on my system?

did you emerge pciutils?

emerge pciutils
heh
sup _AxS_

not 2 much, u?

_AxS_ and likewhoa nope

deploy servers as usuable

hm ok well either fo you two now hae the answer to the real question of http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-573390.html

that was a good answer, but still didn't work

really? it didn't just need libstdc++-v3 ?
hm. i guess it needs the whole thing then…

o_O

haha !!! I found it kdebase DOES need k3b krusader compiz and amarok … but not the other way round … if I do equery depends krusader and all the other they are clean !!!

erm, dubleyouteeehf?

so I can delete kdebase

huh?

/join #wmii
oups

as simple as that .. If I do equery depends kdebase it lists k3b and the others … bit if I do equery depends k3b, krusader etc … the list is empty

your issue was that 'real' (ie the realmedia stuff) needed to emerge gcc-3.3.x right? that's usually so it gets libstdc++.so.5 , which emerging libstdc++-v3 will also give you
of course. k3b is an application, nothing depends on it
it is the 'leaf'

so it means k3b, krusader and all the others dont need kdebase

and that's fine - doesn't make sense, but no biggie - the problem is, my arch is athlon64, and the old gcc doesn't like that

_AxS_ I followed the ATi guide as you suggested - it boots up nicely in KDE now. Thanks. I just tested if it also worked when trying to log in via VNC, but with that method I'm still jsut being presented a grey screen. Any suggestions?

no. it means kdebase doesn't need k3b
i haven't played with vnc so i'm not sure….

if what you said was true then equery depends kdebase wouldnt show k3b

_AxS_ Ok, but thank you for your help and time so far

no. 'depends' says what packages depend on the one you type.
it doesnt list the dependencies _of_ the package you type

hmm strage … _AxS_ but for now everything seems to be running
I hope
I could make the test and just deinstall kdebase to see what happens #

im using kde-base without k3b and krusader, works fine

then if I was wrong I just reinstall it again ^^
you ARE my DEAR
just great

hi

who needs a gui for cd burning anyways?

Hello

hi

hmmm or wait … hmm

hey =( =p

How to set wifi(nic) mode in /etc/conf.d/net ?

sup

how can I @bind@ devices automatically ?
using the fstab

man udev ?

udev ?
no

bind devices? huh?

wiki benny99 customizing udev

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Customizing_UDEV

with udev you can *bind* a device to /dev/something

sorry, you told me about that

I've gotte KDE up and running on my local screen, but when trying to connect to my Gentoo box with vnc I'm only being presented a grey screen with an X-shaped cursor. I've added "startkde" to my ~/.vnc/xstartup but that doesn't seem to be sufficient.

you mean 'mount –bind' directories?

use fstab mount options

using mount –bind
exactlz
yeah D
but how ??

/tgt/dir /src/dir none bind 0 0 — in fstab

I finally understood your point man happy I didnt deinstall kdebase

thanks

hehe good

sorry, moved all my dirs etc. … could not login
what are those last two numbers again ?
one is the bootflag and the other ?

has to do with error checking. look at fstab

ah

0 0 is fine because u dont want it to do anything

thanks again

np

how to set wifi mode in /etc/conf.d/net ?
I tried mode_ra0="ad-hoc" and others

get wireless-tools and wpa stuff (if you are going to use wpa) and read /etc/conf.d/wireless.example
…and put the stuff you want into /etc/conf.d/net

Ok i try

Could someone tell me how to get iptables match packets headed for the local machine so I can change the –to-destination?

is there anyway to get vnc to behave like apple remote desktop ? where the vnc is actually the remote desktop that the user is seeing as logged into :0 ?

you mean, make it work exactly like a remote X session?

_AxS_, a user is logged into the machine on :0 ..i want to login and do stuff on that desktop

right. no idea. but when u figgure it out tell me how

_AxS_, someone mentioned freeNX
_AxS_, that sounds like the way to go

openvnc might have that functionality too, unsure

any rtl8180 users?

that's gigabit right?

"could not load /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r5/modules.dep: No such file or directory".. it isn't a faulty cd, just burned a new one. Any idea?
modproble -l doesn't work either.

guys… i got an old p200 that i have gentoo on it (lol, i know) and it was sitting there turned off for a while! i turned it on and i can't login saying that it can't find /bin/login..

….thats not something you should see…

_AxS_ um depends its for wirelesss cards with the rtl8180 chipset and rtl8185 chipset

ahh ok sorry, no i don't know anything about it then

boo

i know, but can't do anything cause of it.

which livecd?

2007.0

:'( oh damn… I thought * would include .*

it can't coldplug nor can it hotplug

nope.
i mean specifically what file name

How do you mean what filename?

livecd-x86-2007.0-r1.iso
that type of thing

that one

Alternatively, is it possible to send packets to another table rather than another chain?

would be weird cause i just installed my own pc with it, and that went perfectly fine.

whatever, everything else works great, thanks

cool.
its not a ram issue or something is it? what about booting with noapic or acpi=off ?

sorry for bothering you that much for a that small thingy

not at all

any tips for using dyndns, anyone?
how should I set my hostname?

more info required…

is any dhcpcd configuration needed?
what info
?

No tested ram with memtest86, think i'm gonna do that again though and do the acpi=off and noapic tests too.

http://pastebin.ca/640738 Any input please?

about what you're trying to do.. end goal, etc..

stlil weird, cause this is my old pc, which installed fine before. I'm getting scared

anyone able to tell me how to enable ARC4 Cipher algorithms in my kernel under cryptography right now have — next to it

because they are required by other parts of the kernel, and you cannot turn them off

oh ok so they are on though good

hm, something else, can I add my own Keyboard Shortcut Commands?

yep. '—' means on
they should change that to '-*-' or something

like those in System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts ?

bleh almost wish that they weren't on and tha twa my problme

ah, sorry, will google myself
have a nice day, bye

no idea — try #gentoo-desktop

command not found". I'm a bit puzzled about this.

end goal: to have a fqdn so I can touch my machine from the outside

tried specifying the path to startkde?
ok cool. with what service?
as in website?

also, to have the machine properlyconfigured to use dhcp and know its dyndns domain name

Ehrm, no. Do you happen to know what the path is?

You need to give the full path, because your environment variables are probably different under vnc.

as in ssh, ntp, ftp

normally /usr/kde/3.5/bin/startkde

ok. for that, dhcp isn't going to use the dyndns name. but that's a simple entry in hosts

Thanks alot Puschkin, _AxS_ and cruxeternus

nono, i mean, 'no-ip.com' or … who's handling your dyndns

what entry?

Hi - I'm trying to install gentoo on my laptop, and so far I've tried the livedvd - which hung at 8%, and seems to be a common problem… and now, I can't get the minimal CD to boot properly (probably my drive's fault), so, could I use the livedvd's shell (which I can access, and works fine)
to download the stage3 tarball and install that way?

to make your system know its dyndns domain name

yes, how should it look?
the entry in hosts

you just add it to /etc/hosts on say, '127.0.0.1'

aha
but that's aliased to localhost

ie: 127.0.0.1 [myfqdn] [myhostname] localhost

aha
ok
anything else? dhcpcd secret sauce?

Can it be true that the command startkde is now known as start_kdeinit in 3.5?

dhcpcd is entirely separate from this
you probably want to set a dns_domain_.. thing in /etc/conf.d/net tho (see net.example for syntax)

aha

Great, it is my memory.. was working before hehe.

Do 'which startkde' on the machine locally, to see where the bin you need is.

Ok, I'll give it a try.

Memtest86, has configuration Test BIOS (Std) and Test BIOS (All).. the Std isn't giving any problems, All though.

happens.. old hardware does die
do you have everything set up to auto-assign the ip address to your dyndns?

meaning, have I set up a dyndns client?
if so, the answer is yea
are you saying I should use something else than my isp-provided DNS?
if so, what should I use
?

can mysql 5.0.44 be used as a slave to replicate a 5.0.45 master?

Hi, I'd like to have several versions of the same kernel on my box, so that i can try to keep at least a working one. Are there some genkernel options for such a layout please?

don't use genkernel

yes, if the livedvd boots fine then just follow the handbook from there.. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=3

then you can keep as many as you like

well, yeah, if you want to know the name of it at all times. isp-provided dns will change whenever u get a new ip

yes

i would upgrade the slave to 5.0.45 also

so it is pretty useless if you want to connect from remote

so what DNS should I use?

yeah, not in portage yet

however yes it should work as is

well, i assume you would want to use a dyndns service, ..?

thanks

so, they alo provide dns?
cool
hehe

hi - does anybody know of a portage overlay with vlc-0.9 or above
?

but I'd rather use another…

i'm not talking dns servers — that's different. your isp's is fine. i'm talking about the one that you get your name from

but that's exactly what a dns server does, no?
tells whose name is what

no. well sorta. dns servers provide name resolution.
but they get those names from domain hosts..

mack_sim no problem, but if want to go on my own how should i proceed? having several kernels with different names is ok, but how about the /us/lib/modules? how to tell the kernel to use a given directory to look for them?

so if you want a domain name for your computer to be accessible by others, you need to get it from a domain host.
and since you dont have a static ip, its gotta be from a dyndns service

yes

Thanks, I've just extracted the archive, and all seems well.

and, to have my machine use its dydns name, not the one assigned by the ISP… I do what?

there's an option called 'LOCAL_VERSION"

Woooh all the memory i have on every single pc is broken according to that BIOS (All) test. I have my doubts

hehe, ok then
well, you need to sign up with a dyndns service. which one do you have?

erm… the free one?

_AxS_ LOCAL_VERSION? Is it a bootloader, a kernel compilation option?

btw, your isp's assigned name will always be there — you just want to also assign another one
sure

I did assign another one

its a compile option, in menuconfig. specifies an additional name to the whole kernel image host so you can have multiple compiles of the same kernel version

now I want my dogdamn machine to stop calling itself home-104020

top option on the second screen
/etc/conf.d/hostname has what in it?
and what is your dyndns name?

hi. i'm having problems, making gcc (currently using 4.1.1 und trying to set up 4.1.2): http://rafb.net/p/ydJIxg61.html

_AxS_ ok, I noticed that option. How about the modules? are they going to be shared host amongst the different kernels?

nope.

can anybody tell me, whats wrong ?

I've changed /etc/conf.d/hostname to the dyndns name

they will be installed in their own separate '2.6.[version]-[LOCAL_VERSION_STRING_HERE]' dir

da-guru: well, did you read the error?

is it not going to be updated by dhcpcd, or summat?

well, yes

as long as /etc/conf.d/hostname is not 'localhost' it should not be overwritten.

da-guru: have you ruled out hardware issues?

The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem.
my hardware is working fine

oh cool

_AxS_ thank you so much for the explanations. Is there some documentation on gentoo.org about that?

thanks

secondly, did you add the dns_domain_… setting with your fqdn in it to /etc/conf.d/net ?
nope. but there is if you gogle the kernel docs

can't find the proper setting, no

google*

da-guru: but have you actually tested it. ie memtest, a cpu stress test, hard drive diag

have a look at /etc/conf.d/net.example

i use 'dns_domain_lo="[my.fq.dn]"' but i think just 'dns_domain="…"' would work too

sure!
and its not just gcc, it's the same with glibc, samba and several other packages

The fix in Firefox 2.0.0.6 to prevent starting IE, is that effecting X versions?

I did… can't find the setting

grep 'dns_' /etc/conf.d/net.exdample
err, net.example

da-guru: forgive me for not believing that you've actually run memtest and cpuburn, but "sure!" doesn't inspire confidence. and given that you're having issues with more than one package… that's further evidence of hardware problems

does your isp/modem require a specific hostname for dhcp?

I dunno
guess I'll find out soon nough
but I believe not
It changed with the last IP "update"

AFAIK thats the main reason you would need it set in /etc/conf.d/net
otherwise its not necessary there anyway

nah, its because now /etc/conf.d/domainname isnt used.

^^ np
but you can believe me, i did

Hi! What's a good jabber server to emerge? I tried jabberd, but it didn't work out of the box. The init daemon failed to listen on some ports and the init script failed to stop the daemon.

_|Nix|_, I use Openfire and it works well - there is a Wildfire (now Openfire) doc in the wiki I think
I think openfire is a little more complex than jabberd though

emerging now … is there a lot of configuration? I basically just need it for debugging Pidgin …

"gcc: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: No such file or directory" … what package provides that? emerge libstdc++ –pretend shows version to be 3.3

hi I'm back

libstdc++-v3 does
or gcc-3.3.x

jorvis, better to use libstdc++-v3

_|Nix|_, a little bit, yes - you have to setup some kind of database for it, then go through a configuration wizard via a web interface - not too bad, but I'd suggest reading the wiki

yep

gentoo wiki

thanks, will adding the libstdc++-v3 mess anything up or will it just be a backward-compatibility thing?

emerging that will give youthe library you need. so yeah you'll be good.

my "at" stopped working (alt-gr + q)

gcc-4 provides libstdc++.so.6 ; .so.5 is from gcc-3.x and so you need the other package

jorvis, that package is for binary compatibility of things gentoo can't build or are older

Oh, no, so I have to emerge mysql?

@ works now
bye, and thanks again ! _AxS_

_|Nix|_, no, there's another alternative

thanks

Any reason a system wouldn't boot properly with 256GB of RAM?

how do I setup sshd so it locks a user out for 10 minutes after 3 failed attempts (or something to this affect)

bexamous nope

bexamous, what problem are you having?

128GB boots fine, 256GB is hanging

how about because the linux kernel can't work on a system with that much ram?

bexamous, wait, 256 GB?

what is limit?

honestly no idea, but what system is this? is it 64bit or 128bit?
bhonestly no idea, but what system is this? is it 64bit or 128bit?/b

That's not true

8 way opteron, socketf
8 4GB dimms per cpu
trying to qualify it

ahh.. ok cool
any ideas?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Protect_SSHD_with_DenyHosts

bexamous, booting the 64bit version?

yes
just wnat to rule out any obvious issues i might be seening

hi

what motherboard?

unreleased board

What CPU?

socketF opterons
guess i'll try to rule out a bad stick
everything works fine with only 128GB installed

CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is set?

I have a script that bans people if they fail ssh lockings, it's timed, so you decide how long. (They get iptables locked out of the machine)

ah hah
hmm

are you still there?

I'll try building a new one, though I'd expect all the RAM simply owuldn't be avaialble
kernel si hanging right away

Miravlix, I think this link Puschkin sent me will do the same.. (still reading)

thanks ofr idea

there are many ways to do this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Index:HOWTO#Services, search for SSHD

how should i get rid of old stuff if I don't prune?

also, are you required to symetrically populate all of the CPUs?

DrChandra, himem64g is x86 only i believe

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umm, him Celtic
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stupid keyboard…

I need a gento install CD with PHP compiled on it… what would be the easiest method to accomplish this?

vertigoacid
why stupid ?

I used different burned 2007.0-r1 images (which worked before), different memory modules and ide cables and cdrom drivers and memory slots.. even with noapic acpi=off, problem doesn't go away. What could it be?

because I type on it poorly

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see http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD_from_scratch

i ran out of ideas long ago. the only thing i can think of is a hardware problem or an incompatibility issue. does an older livecd work?
or _any_ livecd?

you type on it poorly but me i dont like?

i'm about to test an older one yeah

!list

http://www.pettingers.org/code/sshblack-notes.html - this is the one I use and it seems like the author has good plans for it still

with php on it? just the distfiles?

!rule

http://sial.org/pbot/perl+

I cam select 64GB with Opteron

ah ha, thanks vertigoacid, I'll give that a try, thanks, Supprised I didn't find that already

whatever I use I want the option to only block tempararly for certain things (I don't want to get locked out of my own system)

bexamous: would it have anything to do with the memory model? flat vs sparse vs whatever? i dunno if that relates back to the hardware or not

Perhaps you should just disable password authentication?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fail2ban, i used this one a while ago, works fine for your purpose, you can set a number of minutes to be banned

bexamous, try with various mem= (in mb) options to limit the max and see how far you can take it..

i can send u the rules i use…

Aah, never look at sshd logs, I'm offcourse under a spam attack as always.

you're looking to ssh-ban for brute forcing right?

no

hello does there exist such a thing as a DSL/DSLAM emulator in gentoo?

_AxS_, yes

UncleRemus, .. love yer name

none that i know of..

u like zappa too?

if you can find one for linux then it's easy to install though

You can whitelist
Never use automatic tools without whitelists

can i keep my home partition from ubuntu when i install gentoo?

nod

or should i just save it.. tucked away somewhere

I've found that there aren't many packages left behind that don't actually need to be there. Usually old packages get removed when you update. if you really need to remove some, just do it manually

Hungmanmoojoo, yeah sure you can keep it i would just remove the .whatever folders with all of your preferences

http://rafb.net/p/rgUPIN90.html — plus i have a perl script that auto-adds ip addresses to the SSH_Bans chain, based on number of attempts that are logged.

k dislo , but if i dont mount it as home i could just get the files i want from there?

as long as you don't overwrite it you're fine.

i would like to keep my logs for gaim for example

you can mount it wherever. even as /home again

Where is the world file found?

send over that perl script

yeah,.. but your shure it wont be problems with old configs?

anyone have any experience with laptop docks?

..u sure? it's ugly…

I don't think you can use 256GB with your processor. 64GB may be the limit. I was comparing with some IA64 machines, but they use a different memory model.