BRB folks.

why not use the installer CD

in case you're willing to rebuild a library with some l33t flags and want to know what tools might be affected by a possible breakage

hays, in most of the mammals opinions here (including mine) minimal + handbook is the way to go

just in case glibc is one of them

you can use the installer cd, just don't use the installer application. it tends to crash, and it's much easier in the long run to do it by the handbook

learn more that way

I've already done a gentoo install before

_AxS_, genkernel compiling should take how much time ideally on p4 1.6ghz machine any rough idea ?

Yeah, ok.. looks like I probably need to find a way to get a second computer up and running with the handbook available while I do this then

installing by the handbook is not just recommended to learn, it's also the cleanest and safest way to go about it

bdf“`: unsure. it builds _everything_.. usually the modules part takes 3x as long as the kernels part though.

revdep is rather slow — what if it reported a library broken, and you fixed it some other way, and just wanted to check that library?

ok that makes sense

_AxS_, alright thanks

http://rafb.net/p/LOhQZT60.html
this does not work and I cannot connect to a WEP wifi network
can someone help?

which package provides the radeon kernel module?

if you're doing wep, why are you using wpa_supplicant??

_AxS_ I don't know, I thought wpa_supplicant would do it.

no idea if it does or not, but i would recommend doing it through /etc/conf.d/net (see wireless.example for details)

But I asked 20 mins earlier what would be the recommended way to do WEP
where is wireless.example?

/etc/conf.d

wpa_supplicant supports WEP fine o.O

Tommy`: can you step him through it?

I can try and remember how I did it

have you gotten a connection manually?
i'd try that first

What do you mean?

it explains in the massive example config in the wpa_supplicant docs

how do I do that?

(using iwconfig)

I'll try and find it

I only know about wpa_supplicant
How do I connect using iwconfig?
manually?

man iwconfig

ok
I don't need any special package ?

A nice document is here http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4&chap=4

its part of wireless-tools, which i assume you already have.

There are even examples of using wpa_supplicant with WEP there

yes but I cannot get them to work.

try by hand first, make sure its not a driver / config / hardware issue

kernel 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 — broken?

ok

? howso?

i am learning iwconfig then
I already verified that iwconfig listed my interface

i just got some crazy arse errors using genkernel to try and compile it

this is ok. So I guess the driver is working fine.

hm. dunno
wel, set the essid and the key and see if you can get an ip with dhcpcd
'iwconfig [iface] txpower auto' to turn on transmission, if it is off

yes, I'll have to read the manual though except if you tell me what are the commands to do that

'iwconfig [iface] essid [essid]' and 'iwconfig [iface] key [key-in-hex]' to set up the network

actually it's a little bit hard because it's not my machine
I am helping a friend remotely

is it normal for firefox to take like 2 seconds to switch tabs

http://rafb.net/p/YYBCRF40.html

on the livecd? probably — livecd's are slow

hays, no, most likely is some plugin
which is fubaring

no, on my system

well, won't running iwconfig eth1 essid 'My Network'
launch iwconfig ?

I have no plugins

not really

I mean, I told my friend to try that and he said he ahd a "" prompt

hays, hmm shouldnt be that what
:p
i have 40 tabs open right now and switching goes smooth

depends on current memory usage, I've seen it before when my RAM was maxed

4 seconds

yep, looks like genkernel isn't ready for 2.6.21 yet — i bet there's a bug on b.g.o already

I have 1G RAM

me only 512 here :p

is your firefox compiled from source?

wheee!
hehe

yes

used for 92%

i have a gig aas well
then i have no clue

40 tabs… my god

do you guys have AA fonts

ive had 40 tabs onceee its unrealistic

iwconfig is a configure tool, just like ifconfig. its not a daemon

I have 1.5G but sometimes if FF is running for a very long time it slows down a lot

i have them all the time
but only because i am too lazy to close the old ones

hmm

I'm really considering dropping firefox

at the end of a day i often have around 60 tabs

so he probably made a mistake

if he has a '' then he missed a quote or something

for?

once you ran 'iwconfig [iface] key [key-in-hex]

tell him to not use quotes

you are connected?
or do you need something else?

nono

I don't know. galeon? mozilla?

ok

But 4 seconds to switch tabs is crazy

that just sets the key. if that and the essid is set, and the card is transmitting, then it should negotiate.

what do you need more then?
ok

and I also get these crashes where it will spawn windows everywhere

how do you do negotiation?

(doing an iwconfig [iface] should show that it is connected/running)

sorry for knowing next to nothing to wifi networks

np.

mozilla no longer exist its called sea monkey and it is just heavier

Is it a problem if the name of its network contains spaces?

after that you can use ifconfig or dhcpcd to bring the interface up.

because in that case i guess he is forced to use quotes

could be. he should use double-quotes around the essid then

ifconfig eth1 up?

uses the same rendering engine so it will be just as slow with a bunch of other stuff tacked on

or dhcpcd eth1?

hey someone who uses the opensource ati driver can PLEASE tell me which package /user/lib/dri/r300_dri.so belongs to?

oh, and if he's using a password instead of a hex key, he needs to specify 'iwconfig [iface] key "s:[password]"'

so sloweer

no

you need a graphic installer

he is using a 10 digits key

proably dhcpcd eth1 — i assume he's connecting to a bluebox router
xf86-ati-something

So, about that double quote thing:

thanks guys, everything seems to be fine after i emerge xorg-x11 and gnome i won't be missing something urgent (oh, and emerging vim ); actually my first gentoo-encounter was just and only handbook based; but i thought after I year you have this shiny liveCD+GUI-installer working fine, i had mistaken well, next time i will use ncurses

iwconfig eht1 essid "The Network"

yep

do you think that would be ok?
ok
thx for all
are you by any chance on amd64?

i have na amd64 yes
s/na/an/

Because I have a amd64 box here
(myself)
and i think it is SLOW
I mean it is a core 2 duo
and it's way slower than a LAPTOP
with core duo
core 1 duo
using x86
so I was wondering:

core 2 dup is cool

WTH is a Core 1 Duo?

check your kernel settings.. i've found that it tends to run faster with CONFIG_HZ=1000 instead of 250 or 100

duo*

either amd64 is fucked

language

or something is wrong with my setting

its before core 2 duo

because that x86 setup runs WAY faster

you have smp and multi-core support enabled right?

:-)

than my amd64 setup on better hardware

it was only 32 bit whhile core 2 duo is all 64 bit

yes, sure
multi-core is where?
I will double check
SMP i checked yesterday

also in processor type and features

yes, support is there.

thing is, speed depends on a lot more than just processor — like ram speed, mb bus speed/quality, etc. etc etc..

yes
but all should be better in my amd64 setup
hard drive is faster

* dev-libs/boost-1.34.0 does not actually support the threads USE flag!

not necessarily

7200 rpm vs 5400

what does it want?

and the motherboard

that's hdd speed, not ram/bus

I am almost sure it is better
this is a desktop machine compared to a laptop…

only the more recent amd64's have support for faster memory..

I have 2.6.20.6
is that not enough recent?

hardware, not kernel

what do you mean,n hardware?

Hi all, I just instlalled the intel fortran compiler (ifc), however, I can't figure out what the executable was named… How can I find out what executables are associated with the ifc pacakage? thanks

this is not an amd64

i mean chips / motherboards

this is a core 2 duo (intel)

try removing threads USE from that package

i'll try changing CONFIG_HZ=1000 though

equery files [pkg] says what all the files are that were installed by that package

core2 duo? how is it?

what do you mean?

speed?

bad

you'll have to check, but I believe that the core2duo processors are x86_64, like the amd's I belive they can pretend to be 32bit processors, but you can probably build a 64bit system for your processor

is it a good processor?
stable?
etc

stable yes
probably fast too
but on amd64 gentoo profile

slow

k

i should have done an x86 profile

does it get hot too fast?

hav eyou tried booting it i686 and seeing if it is faster?

I think I'll install on a separate partition an x86

have you overclocked?

just to compare
no overclock

install a minimal i686 into your swap partition temporarily, just to test

no, not tried yet
to test I'd like to be pointed to good benchmarking tools

How can I find out which files are associated with dev-lang/ifc? thanks

personally i would just compare compile hosting times of say, gcc

magesing, take a look at qdepend

I don't know if this is comparable
compiling gcc on amd64

I think I added it cause apache cried or so

or take a look at /var/db/pkg/full-package/name/CONTENTS

is maybe not the same code that on x86
maybe better compile Firefox or so
and even on FF code may be different

qdepend tells me what ifc depends on… I want to know which files in /usr/bin belong to the ifc package

or take a look at /var/db/pkg/full-package/name/CONTENTS

remove thread from boost specifically with package.use

nah. the code is the same, the binary is just different

equery files package but there is a qutil for that

well, for FF anyhow

maybe its not qdepend

why i asked was im looking to build a comp and i want to know if i want an intel proccessor or go for an amd which are like 2/3 the pice for the same specs

you sure that code is the same?

98%

for gcc I am pretty sure it is not same code

hehe
gcc is a compile = special
but i am pretty sure you fetch the same source
in case of firefox

renihs, thanks, that helped… the binaries got installed under /opt/intel/fortran91/bin … no wonder they wern't showing up in my path

magesing, erm grats but i have no clue what you mean :p, i think you mean someone else
ah lol
short term memory is losing consistency already

hello again
compiling new kernel for my Santa Rosa i965 HP 6710b laptop, which has 160GB /dev/sda, but i miss some option (IDE/ATA/SCSI?), and it Kernel Panics with `any file system failed to mount root' (genkernel works ok)

When I log in, it tells me I'm logging in to my hostname, and that my domain is unkown… how can I configure my domain? Is this set in /etc/conf.d/net or /etc/hostname or some other file?

sledgeas, you most likely are missing controller options
modules
i men
i mean, builtin modules

ok
sure builtin

put sata support in..

boot the genkernel and check with lspci
sata support is a good start :p

which of them should I need? how can I get info about my HDD? satais there

you need SCSI Disk support, as well as support for your sata controller.

lscpi or lshw

after that, just make sure the root= is correct in your grub.conf

hmm, i got IntelCorporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller

any one uses idefisk iax softpnone?

but in kernel all intel* sata's are checked

phone*

so you have ahci and piix?

you don't want all of them, just turn on the first one, ahci.

i'm with SkunkyFone

Hi #gentoo.. I got a problem with ALSA. Apparently I don't seem to have a master volume bar, which is strange because I used to have such a bar in other distros I used. Any ideas how to enable it or activate it perhaps?

all other to turn off?

verify that your sound card does not have 2 mixers.

ahci is turned on. you mean that the presence of others causes kernel panic?

Is there any MMS radio servers for linux?

can you get us the _exact_ kernel error?

how would I do that? I'm pretty sure it doesn't though.. it's just an embedded soundcard in the motherboard

ok

if you've told 2 different drivers to drive the same piece of hardware, that's usually a Very Bad Idea.

the kernel usually handles that though
that is, it only loads one

well, i did not, it's the daefault kernel config i get..

Is there a utility or tool laying around somewhere which will tell me when my /etc/portage/package.* files are stale. As in, if I have amsn 0.95-r4 keyworded, but 0.96 is marked stable and installed?

yeah, and it's russian roulette which one it loads. (:

not that im aware of.
? i've found it usually loads in the order that it's in .confi
g

Alrighty then. Might make a good next project.

does anyone run Xen on an evms root? did you use genkernel or roll your own initrd?

how would I do that? I'm pretty sure it doesn't though.. it's just an embedded soundcard in the motherboard

Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0)

look in /proc/ somewhere?

No fs could mount root, ttried: ext2 ext3 msdos vfat isi9660 ntfs)
*iso

oh! new error! that's a missing filesystem

but it's the same root(0,7) in GRUB as for genkernel, common, all support for ext3 is compiled in (both kernels of course)
ok…….. MY FAULT sorry for taking your time
i have _copied_ the lines in grub.conf from that of genkernel with initramfs and forgot to change root= from dev/ram to dev/sda…
;(
thank's for your attention, come back to work now :d

anyone know of some fast way to cut out a frame of a video file to a image. I could just screenshot the media player, but the video is HD so it's scaled down and I want full resolution

Could someone please help me. My remote servers internet connction has become really slow (both ftp and http). kernel: 2.6.20-gentoo-r7. If I start 2 dowloads from ftp at the same time. I get a faster connection total. What is wrong?

sounds like an issue with your router or your isp

Yes, I read up on window scaling and 2.6.17 but I don't really know what I can do to make sure that's the problem, and how to solve it

dunno.. learn how to trace tcp i guess..
i doubt that it has anything to do with your kernel.

What's the command to see my processor info?

Use wireshark to grab a net capture, and look at the packet arrival times. That will tell you which end fo the network connection the slowdown is on.
cat /proc/cpuinfo

Thanks.
I was missing the info part.

ah Mc_Fly
did you try with old kernel?

ohh, really? Even after reading this? http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/

Hi there. Just wondering if anyone else has tried to use the 2007.0 livecd, and if they've had any success. It seems the image is .3 MB larger than the capacity of a CDR and fails to boot.

Oh crap. It's a Athlon 64. I've been setting everything up as 32.
Guess I should have paid closer attention before I started.

his problem is most likely related to rfc 1323 and the 2.6.17 implementation
but still not sure :p
until he tried with old kernel :p

hehe, hi there. No I'm still a bit afraid, of installing the old kernel. I would like to make sure there was nothing else I could try first

did you play with receive/sendbuffer and wscale factors?

the problem is at the server or hostcenter, not this client

there should be some docs on the most common arguments which have changed

I could only find stuff on window sices in rmem and wmem

actually.. I dunno where to look in /proc.. I tried looking around in the asound directory but I can't find anything that indicates 2 mixers

guys, i have core 2 duo, and during installation the laptop got very very HOT (kernel was old so i could not check the temperatures); during compiling i got afraid i will get toasted..

you probably have not enabled acpi

try asking #gentoo-laptop as well

looks like i was very close to pentium-m problem: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Cope_with_pentiumM_Problems
acpi was enabled, just that acpi with liveCD's kernel comes of ~20061206 , which cannot handle thermal zones

try 'modprobe -l | grep acpi' and modprobe everything that comes up. It worked for me on my laptops.

how is it possible to do as less compiling during installation and jump to newly compiled kernel with acpi that of Jan 2007

OK, try to determine which part of the connection is slow. Is it raw TCP replies? Or, is it just the ones coming from the web server?

Pentium M can burn in hell

you can also use any livecd you like to do the install.

^^^

how?

Does someone know a good program to convert .amr to .mp3 or .wav?

I don't think it occurred to Intel that a CPU that routinely reaches temps in excess of 100C is not good for the rest of the machine

gentoo sledgeas altinstall

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml

2510 packages compiled so far, sooon i will be back on my 3000

i also wanted the same thing, I never found anything.

aww

apparently it's a difficult to deal with proprietary format

mplayer blah.amr -ao pcm?

Hi all. How do I include firmware I need on my genkernel'd initramfs?

that's a good question. you need firmware before you can get at your root?

ROFL, how can a menuconfig entry have tags of "(OBSOLETE) (NEW)" ??? Has the Singularity arrived, if the new is already old when it appears?

(NEW) means it was just turned on (made available) since the last time you did make menuconfig

bah, don't ruin my fun, I'm waiting for the Singularity ))

obsolete is the drivers' state according to the kernel maintainers

not need as such, I can build the relevant driver as a module instead to work around it

How can I tell ls to only list directories?
ls -d doesn't show anything

probably best for anything that requires firmware.

You know, this *IS* the Singularity in action. Doesn't matter than it's merely *me* who's only just turned on the option. That's how the Singularity works … rate of change exceeds our rate of change acceptance.

…/image.gz

you want the directory tree?

thanks

Just the directories in the current working directory

It's fascinating and all, but don't you think you're overplaying it a bit?

ls -la |grep '^d'

yes

only regex ?=(
So the solution is regex eh?

Heh

on the other hand, the exceptional always looks normal when it's in your face. Only hindsight brings out the "wow" …

Are you tlaking about Ray Kurzweil's singularity?

How is that opensource data mining site called again? Similar to Oloho or so. it lists alot of projects, how active they are, which languages are used, how many active devs, how many lines of code etc

could someone help me find out why /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0 is empty even though I have a number of cpufreq modules loaded?

I found a solution. It might not be the best, but it works. It works good actually
Use wine: http://www.miksoft.net/mobileAMRconverter.htm

http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvbvm60

the meme predates RK by a lot. But yes

anyone using asterisk here? the asterisk 1.2.21.1 from portage doesn't work here

I think it was Vinge, but mayve even earlier

..quick q — linux-headers has a 'gcc64' use flag now. should all amd64's enable this flag?
or only pure64 installs?

emake?

jam is..?

??

Just Another Make - advanced make replacement

ah

nifty

get the latest. I discovered that a pile of things didn;t even compile because of an incremental change in -rX. There seem to be deps missing in the builds.

not that I know of

ok, but a compile_src() can just "jam" anyway, right?

yeah
src_compile*

what package is gnome-settings-daemon in?

….? latest what?

(or how cna I find out)

Eg. 2.6.17-r1 dumped a pile of things on the floor while 2.6.17-r2 sailed through perfectly. And that was just 2-3 weeks ago.
linux-headers

its up to 2.6.21 now

yeah. that too

which has this gcc64 use flag — which is what i'm asking about

yes, it's changing at a completely ridiculous rate

no faster than the kernel

#gentoo-gnome #gentoo-desktop

I think it lagged by several versions w.r.to the kernel, and so now is going FTL to catch up. It just went ballistic, and I got caught out.
New maintainer maybe

could be — but that doesn't answer my question

:P
I've given up on gcc issues anyway, until we go 128-bit gcc is basically dead, because of their choice to make native ints length of ptr. 10 billions packes died, they didn't care. Maybe next generation of devs will have a clue.

Using emerge I get [Errno 13] Permission denied: /bin/bash -c /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh unpack. Any suggestions where and what to check?

odd. Not seen that

…anybody else have an opinoin on the gcc64 use flag for linux-headers??

I suppose I killed with some weird chmod actions, but I don't have a clue in which directory it fails…

what's the issue? I'm running 64-bit Athlon64, in addition to building right now a big new Xeon beastie.

the issue is i want to know if i should ebable this use flag or not.
enable, that is

http://s10.bitefight.it/c.php?uid=31458 toospectacular
verygood

don't go to that url.

every USE flag should have a wiki entry, and a discussion page if it's worth discussing

wiki gcc64

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly

i am getting a grub error , kernel must boot before initrd _AxS_
what can i do ?

bdf“`: put the kernel line before the initrd line ?

i have

hi

beats me, then. google for that error

its just the way handbook says it should _AxS_
hmm alright

Any SFTP graphical (GTK) client like konqueror fish ?

gftp might?

yes, gftp works

i have it
an I hate it…

what do you guys use for pdf?

another one?

viewing pdf, that is

xpdf kpdf

or evince

is xpdf better than evince? evince depends on lots of gnome stuff

xpdf here, basic but small and fast, not dependant on kde / gnome

I'm not aware of any others.

gftp have a lot of bugs… and always is crashing
Do you know fish protocol of konqueror?
I want something like this

ok

that is only within kde stuff, unfortunately

;-(

then use konqueror. nautilus can do it to (via gnome-vfs) but gnome-vfs is very poor compared to kde's ioslaves.

nautilus kan fish too

konqueror + gnome + gtk + qt… bad idea
jeje
ok thanks

I have a file full of numbers. Is there a quick short of writing a script to display their sum?

you might want to stop by #bash, see if someone would be kind enough to write you a little script

Eh, I found a hackish way to do it
Thanks though

Hello everyone!
How likely is a very plain case fan that came with the case speed-controllable?

might be better to ask #hardware

anyone having problems with 2.6.21-r4 kernel ? it seems setuid/setgid does not work
# chmod 4755 /home/sbash
web01 linux # su - apache
apache@web01 ~ $ /home/sbash
sbash-3.2$ id
uid=1081(apache) gid=1081(apache)

Where does webapp-config look for the vhosts configuration file vhosts.d/whatname

running which gnome-settings-daemon says it doesn't exist. running whereis gnome-settings-daemon says it's in /usr/libexec, I re-emerged control-center (the package the exec is supposed to be in) but the system still can't find that exec. I need it to run my themes and such.

postfix is freaking out to

how can I get my system to know where gnome-settings-daemon is?

yeahh the a-team

isn't gnome-settings-daemon its own package?

_AxS_ I was told it wasn't, I asked in ##gnome

…and ##gnome knows how their stuff is filed/packaged in gentoo?

should my list of commands not create an suid shell ?

_AxS_ I was it was for gentoo, two people said the same thing.

ok cool. dunno what the issie is tho. how did yo uemerge gentoo?
err, gnome?

I saw someone report a similar issue not so long ago. I don't know what the resolution was.
have you logged out and back in again since installing gnome?

What could be the cause if non-root users can't login with the error message "Not a valid security context" ?

kerframil, yeah alot.

…pam is misconfigured?

ln -s /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon /usr/local/bin/

I'm not aware that I did any pam related customization.

are you using SELinux?

yes

I just noticed, if I run gnome-settings-manager manually, it crashes saying it can't connect to dbud. because "Failed to execute dbud-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session"

you should say so …

dbud*
dbus*

did you upgrade pam and not apply the config file updates?
it sounds like your system is inconsistent. you aren't ~arch by chance?

etc-update: Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting.

_AxS_, ~arch?

what are your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in make.conf?

#gentoo-hardened might be a good place to ask if you're using selinux, that introduces all sorts of stange things and issues that non-selinux uesrs will not be aware of

_AxS_, I don't have any

but i'm not 100% sure if that's the right chan

"emerge -vaD world" hangs on one computer after "Calculating world dependencies… done!" … but not on the other two (all share the same /usr/portage via nfs). Any ideas?

ok. make sure you have hal and dbus use flags in your 'emerge –info', run emerge -uDN world and revdep-rebuild, then try again

sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1 failed. how do i fix??

guessing that you don't need gcc3x emerge -av libstdc++-v3

how can i get support for real media video in mplayer?

_AxS_ dbus wasn't in my use flags, adding now.

USE flag: real

ok

packages should not depend on USE flags to be set to function correctly. do also raise this in #gentoo-desktop (I believe that it's staffed by gentoo gnome devs). I've seen this problem reported before, so I'm worried that there may be a bug.

you probably want realmedia USE also

ty

for mplayerplug-in specifically

_AxS_ and +kerframil, with the dbus flag added to make.conf, the only packages that would change are avahi, and cups. is it still worth the emerge?

well i guess i want both, i want the support in mplayer and my browser
but is firefox gecko based?

no, I don't think it is.
again, I recommend pitching in #gentoo-desktop.

dcoats, thanx. it seems to be ok for now. can you explain what happened?

+kerframil, omw

i say it is, in order to complete emerge -uDN world, so that revdep-rebuild works correctly

i was trying to emerge sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1 and it failed

for what purpose?
if you need libstdc++, try emerging libstdc++-v3 instead

octavarium kerframil, i thought all mozilla products were gecko based. Firefox 3 is upgrading to Gecko 1.9

nvm, thats what dcoats said

teach gn00b libstdc++-v3

No such faq

I keep getting the error that Block device /dev/sda3 is not a valid root device. Any suggestions?

teach dcoats mzbot

I am the completely unofficial gentoo helpbot. I send answers to frequently asked questions through irc. (details: gentoo-detailed/mzbot)

_AxS_, sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1 was part of the packages in 'emerge -uDN world'

ok well thanks for the help im gonna emerge mplayerplug-in anyway

mzbot, teach gn00b gcc-3

Some packages, usually pre-compiled binary packages such as mozilla-firefox-bin, are written in C++ and are only compatible with the application binary interface provided by gcc-3.x. If this is the case then you can avoid having to install gcc-3.x entirely by installing libstdc++-v3 beforehand: emerge -1 sys-libs/libstdc++-v3.

thx

nobody can explaiun what happened unless you paste the error in full. just conveying that the emerge failed isn't enough.
oops, sorry
^
yes, but a package failure is still a package failure, isn't it? and he's asking why it failed.

kerframil, understood. mzbot cleared it up for me. thanx

kerframil, missed that part

not really, but as long as you're happy then we're happy

I think he was more asking for an explaination of why libstdc++-v3 fixed it

I keep getting the error that Block device /dev/sda3 is not a valid root device. Any suggestions?

Xerzik, SATA hard drive?

yes

make sure you have SATA Disk support enabled in the kernel

I do. I had to compile the kernel twice becase I didn't the first time around

Xerzik, did you remember to add SCSI Disk Support.. the libata does NOT enable it

err, SCSI disk, sorry

basically what i've done is installed gentoo using the livecd installer, and now i'm trying to update the entire system

I see.

I did enable it yeah

*nod*

maybe i dont quite understand masking, can someone tell me why mplayer-bin is masked by ~amd64 keyword? im using amd64 gentoo

got wgetpaste?

I have nopaste
What do you want to see?

becaise its a binpackage and its probably, i assume, built 32bit and as such is not considered 'stable' for amd64

it says Pre-build mplayer binary for amd64 systems on the emerge –search

grep -e 'CONFIG_BLK_DEV' -e 'SCSI' -e 'ATA' /usr/src/linux/.config |nopaste

kk

yep. that doesn't mean its stable

http://rafb.net/p/ghHwvp25.html

i have 3 machines connected to a linksys router. 1 winxp box, 1 gentoo box, and 1 fedora/vista box. how do i set it up so that i'm able to see the shared folder on the winxp box? can anyone give me a url?

yep, that looks good…

Wnat to see grub fstab fdisk? maybe I botched that?

yep i do — thats next

you want to look at samba

you need samba to access shared NT folder

to mount a share from a Windows XP machine, build CIFS support into your kernel.

http://rafb.net/p/aFkuSX91.html ; http://rafb.net/p/Vytc7h12.html ; http://rafb.net/p/LFaDQl64.html

you're sure you installed the new kernel properly this time around? ie, /boot was mounted?

just to clarify, samba is useful but only because it provides the "mount.cifs" helper. the actualy functionality is kernel-side in the CIFS driver.

I thought so…but I really am not sure
This is my first install from a tarball

kerframil, right now i'm using genkernel. i haven't configure a kernel manually yet. how do i know if it's supported already or not?

ty. -didn't it used to be samba as its own module? i take it that has been taken over by CIFS

run "cat /proc/filesystems" and look for cifs in the output.
grep cifs /proc/filesystems
you're probably thinking of smbfs. there really is no reason to be using it - it's dead in the water.
wow, my nick completion abilities are in tatters today.

lol, was about to say…

heh

kerframil, nope, cifs is not there

hello

it filters its own icmp traffic probably

annoying. you'll need to run genkernel with the –menuconfig parameter I believe. within the menuconfig application, press / to search then enter CIFS as a search term. a dialog will pop up telling you where to find the CIFS option within the menu structure.

probably, it really does not bother me, but its annoying when troubleshooting another connection im trying to setup

Any ideas?

in fact, rather than build a new kernel entirely, you can probably get away with building CIFS as a loadable module (if you do that then you can just modprobe it without having to boot with a new kernel).

If I am reading the x86 quick install to get gentoo on my system is there a way to get different snapshots then the ones that are listed that are fully built with a X in then that will support my ati 7500 with open gl. I am havent a really hard time getting gentoo installed I have tried 5 times over the last 3 days

come to thing of it, I'd try that approach first.

What should I be googling for if I want to access a shared printer hosted on a Windows machine from my Gentoo machine?

cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig — do that then search for the CIFS option as previously instructed.

does anyone know where the publish your images online will be saved when I hit snapshot in vlc?

"Network File Systems".

Anyone know?

nevermind, found my answer.

no, there aren't any prebuilt stages like that

I have got it installed one time, it just came to the command line. How to you get the graphical interface?

Darn, I finally had some time to rule out that it was java 6 that blocked gnome packages from compiling. Thats the only system change I've made lately, all other changes is due to package updates.

the basic install only does cmdline. after that, you'd have to emerge xorg-server or simply just your preferred window manager. doesn't the handbook cover this?

yes it does

gentoo Minor723 xorg-config

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

Is that the time emerge kde-meta :less

yes Minor723

just 'emerge kde-meta'

Well thats where it broke

don't forget to start X

I've back to sqare one, since I've no clue why most gnome packages tells me maintainer is missing when doing documentation

perhaps mzbot's link will help

Any idea AxS?

You could always use a real Window Manager

It told me reemerge =x11_libs/qt-3* with USE="opengl"

so do that?

not from what you showed me, no… :/
the new kernel is definitely installed properly?

I did what the handbook told me to, just the cp arch/kernel…

ah, it sounds like you're not using the desktop profile and you probably should be.

Did it may not overwrite teh old kernel?

teach Minor723 desktop profile

You'll want to use the 2007.0/desktop subprofile, not 2007.0 itself, as the later is extremely minimalist USE flag wise. No jpeg support is a common symptom. Use 'eselect' to change profiles. You should do an emerge -DuN world at some point after this. ('mzbot: faq eselect profile' for more.)

according to your grub.conf you're using genkernel.
is that not still true?

ideally, after unpacking the stage3, you'd have made sure that /etc/make.profile points to the appropriate profile (as the faq above says, eselect is a handy tool for handling it)

I thought so yeah

how did you build your kernel? genkernel –menuconfig –install all?

it sets a lot of USE flags by default that you'd want for a desktop installation, and that problem wouldn't have arisen (although you can still correct it).

or manual make, etc?

http://rafb.net/p/gunO5897.html

hum

That's my /boot
Um I did the menuconfig then teh make
Straight from the amd64 handbook

how do I add persistent routes in gentoo? not a default gw, but other routes, I need to specify metrics and other options

ok your grub.conf is way wrong then. that's the problem. you're booting the old kernel

lol damnit

Where did i go wrong not using the /desktop supprofile

does it actually stop the ebuilds from working or is it just an annoyance?

what kernel should I be using then?

what is used to auto generate a xorg.conf file?

the stageball would point to 2007.0. if you're not reading the handbook then your level of awareness of the importance of selecting a suitable profile may be lower than it otherwise would be.

xorgcfg is nice if it works

MidnighToker, a bitch if it doesn't

but there is a sub-directory named "desktop" which inherits the parent profile and augments it.

i think X –configure may also work

thanks

Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA support ?

here: http://rafb.net/p/X0O2na86.html

is it better to boot from a minimal cd, live cd, or live dvd

in any case, I've already explained exactly where you were going wrong.
it doesn't matter.

minimal

what is up?

the choice of CD has absolutely no relevance to the topic we're discussing.

that's all it should say?

you should be using the one you copied from /usr/src/linux/arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage

hello

your base system starts from what's unpacked from the stage tarball.

yep. you can add more options later if you want

did anyone knews an overlay for gfxboot and patched grub?

I still need the ro at the end though for the jfs filesystem and the initrd lines right?

I was reading the quick install guide and the handbook

no initrd necessary (since you can't build one by hand), and yes you might need the ro thing but afaik root is always mounted ro

how can i compile host a package with the -g flag?

the handbook seems to cover pretty much every eventuality :-/

whatever you were doing, I've explained the problem to you and given you a solution. is the problem that you do not understand what I've said?

add 'debug' to its ues flags

sometimes, that is the problem …

_AxS_, tried that

kerframil, how so? People don't like to read?

or temporarily add '-g' to CFLAGS

Hi. I seems to be having an issue with udev and module parameters..

oh?

I am not sure let me go grab the link and see if its i am in the right place tell me if im wrong

_AxS_, I tried adding debug, however the gnome-settings-manager still has no debug symbols.

if you're not familiar with gentoo already, you need to read the handbook verbatim, word by word, step by step

I set a file in /etc/modules.d with some parameters such as "options em8300 debug=1"

Minor723, or there's always prayer

Well let's see if this works now

then call update-modules…

_AxS_, I guess that means you were right

it's OK, I've found the relevant section: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=6#doc_chap2_sect2

this generates a modprobe.conf with these lines in …

Are you are real person?

But rebooting even.. udev seems to ignore these parameters when modprobing..

Is there something in Portage that I can emerge that's equivalent to PeerGuardian for torrents?

notice that it does mention the availability of "desktop" and "server" subprofiles …

_AxS_ yipee i installed gentoo

It's going…
w00t

_AxS_ thanks for all the help

bdf“`: sweet

Does udev actually use /etc/modprobe.conf or do I need a different module parameters file?

udev just calls modprobe, afaik. so yes.

has anyone configured awstats using webapp-config

w00t, root command line
Thanks

ln -snf /usr/portage/profiles/desktop /etc/make.profile like that?

Hmm… weird..

newbies may suffer a paralysis of choice and not be able to see the wood for the trees. I'm not suprised that this guy was reading the quickinstall guide also (it's much easier to assess what a gentoo installation is really about, and the nature of an installation - in terms of what is crucial rather than optional - has not really changed in many years).

IF YOU CAN'T READ THE GUIDE, GIVE UP

so you're saying it doesnt have the same effect as typing 'modprobe em8300 debug=1' ?

I wonder if my modtools are funny…
no.

that's just my 2 pence anyway.

That gives me debug in my syslog..

don't shout please

Where as the udev'd version doesn't…

I just did read it, was making sure it was right

_actually_… neither does modprobe em8300…

kerframil, even so. Anyone deserving of actual help should be able to read through relevent options and make an educated choice and once exhausting possibilities coming for live help.

modprobe is not reading /etc/modprobe.conf for some reason..

Thanks for all the help AxS

I quite agree, and I am not in any way contradicting that

working now?

Yup, booted into the command line no problem

sweet.

Now i'm finishing the install, adding users and graphic interface and whatnot
I'm sure i'll be back with more questions before the end though =P

Hello.

I don't use the handbook but, now that I look at it, I think it could perhaps do a better job of making it clear that choosing the desktop subprofile is really important if that is the intended usage for the target machine.

can you paste the file in /etc/modules.d you created? or added this stuff to?

Yes..

Thanks, for the help. I was reading the wrong guide.

but I've just realised…

kerframil, who woulda thunk that? ;p

If I have a /etc/modprobe.conf with some options, and I do a manual "modprobe em8300"… It should get debug=1

kerframil, one of the things I admired about Gentoo documentation was it told me what I _could_ do rather than saying "You must do this now"

if the conf contains "options em8300 debug=1". Right?

yes. that is true.

C compiler cannot create executables

Yes, but there _are_ some things that you must do and it is these things that are really the crux of an installation. unpacking a stageball is not an option. building a kernel is not an option. each to their own, but I think it is important for some people to be able to view the process from that vantage point.

it says see `config.log' but i cant find it

is that the only options line for em8300? ie, debug=1 is not being turned off later?

I was going to ask… As not a kernel expert, is there any way to see what options are set to on loaded modules?

kerframil, as far as I can remember the handbook did a good option of summing up the pros and cons of each kernel choice as well as all sub options related to that kernel.

i.e. bread and butter stuff, then toy with the options based on an incremental, step-by-step learning process in terms of gentoo administration; how it really works under the hood.

Yeah, it's in /sys somewhere.

afaik, cat /etc/modules.conf |grep 'modulename'

Without looking, I would guess /sys/modules/$MODULENAME/parameters?

that would make sense too

Sorry /sys/module/$MODULENAME.

thanks ttuttle..
I was looking there anyway..

I like /sys

that would be fine… but it was what was loaded..

/sys is awesome.

kerframil, maybe I was just happy with what I was given. Joining Gentoo as a complete novice but having the handbook and seasoned vet's was a good combination I guess as each told me what was preferencial but what was optional. I managed to get a system up at least :p

the handbook just says to emerge gentoo-sources (which is a good thing, in my view).

I have to admit something here… the module I'm having trouble with is not em8300..

kerframil, oh? I remember it linking to a page with a list of options and summaries of each

ok, what is it?

It's dvb-usb-af9005-remote from the hg-src
of linux-tv

..it shouldn't be picky, but maybe check '-' versus '_' in modprobe.conf ?

It's just a bit experimental.. But I don't think that's the cause of the issue here

there is a link, yes - which is fine. As long as it's not inline, I don't personally mind.

since it seems to be all modules..
It's just when I ask about this stuff usually, I get a "call back when it's in the super-stable…"

yeah.. well thats about the module itself - this is about the system. something seems messed.

I just checked the sys…
The debug parameter for the module is shown as off…

if you want you can set it right in sys

ahh…

not that it is an option for bootup..
does it want debug=1 or =y or ..?

/sys/module/dvb_usb_af9005_remote/parameters/debug . right?

yep, should work

hm.. just a se
Nope still no debug messages..
I'll try a reboot though and see whether the modprobe takes..
Don't worry.. Different machine for irc…
bouncing now..
The actual end problem is that the remote should create an input/event interface…
but it doesn't ..
and it doesn't produce any init or debug messages..
Ah, the box has cycled…
Ahhh… good /etc/modprobe.conf options _were_ picked up…

good

O

Is 32m big enough for grub, or should you just let grub install to your main partition. I am preparing the disks now.

hmm.. still no debug output from the remote module.. I don't think it's initialised correctly…
There are no notes about it in dmesg..
just the main dvb-usb-af9005 module, which does work..

depends on how many kernel/initrd images you attend to accumulate, I suppose. and yes, having a separate /boot filesystem is optional. it's up to you.

k ill just follow this then, thanks

yep thats enough

you'd have to have quite a lot to exceed that. grub's stage files consume a miniscule amount of space.

and kernels/initrds, etc are rarely more than 4-5mb

The swap only says 512, but i have 512 ram should i give it 1024 i have a 200 gig drive im giving the rest to linux

the amount of swap is arbitrary. throw as much into the mix based on the maximum workload you think you might ever have (if in doubt, better safe then sorry).

just trying winding the dvb-usb debug upto 511 now that it works..

Hi
How to completelly remove gnome and x server?

do i need to install xorg before installing kde ?
i have just finished installing gentoo
now i want to install kde ? what should i do ?
emerge kdebase-startkde is good enough ?

I'm always going to have a so so relationship with swap, it's the number one reason for killing a system since it's invention. If you end up having multiple programs running and they start partly running from the swap file, your system is locked up at that point, sometime good old out of memory is just better.

emerge xorg-x11 kdebase-startkde

octavarium ok thanks alot

nope… sod all on dvb remote…

when trying to boot my laptop, I get loads of errors after "freeing kernel memory…" and when running things like badblocks, fsck etc. the errors are "ata1.00: tag 0 cmd 0xc8 Emask 0×9 stat 0×51 err 0×40 (media error)newlineata1.00: exception Emask 0×0 SAct 0×0 SErr 0×0 action 0×0newlineata1.00: (BDMA stat 0×20)"
which get repeated over and over :/

I want my webserver to be able to send emails from php scripts - what's the best host service to use for this? ssmtp? postfix? etc?

yet the module is loaded..

do u know how to completelly remove gnome and x server?

I wonder if it's an order thing.. af9005_remote before af9005 and dvb-usb…

Off course if your out of memory so bad that you can't even run kill, then it doesn't matter if it's locked in swap or dead anyway

bdf“` : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml ||| http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml

Swap system is brilliant if it isn't used to much.

bdf“`: youthrough those gentoo docs and follow them
arg!
u'll probably want to

i prefer exim, but any real MTA (ie, not ssmtp) will do

ok i have a question. How come the command "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot" give an error if you just type "mount /dev/hda1" but works if you type the full thing

Because it's not in fstab.

_AxS_, what's wrong with ssmtp? not that I'm fond of it - I'm just curious

Just trying to figure out how it works

The reason "mount /boot" works normally is because /etc/fstab lists an entry telling mount what device to mount on /boot, and what type it is, and so on.

because you don't have /mnt/gentoo/boot in your fstab on the livecd.

do You know how to completely remove xorg and gnome?

ok thanks

Basically, it's a shortcut. If it's not listed in fstab, you have to specify at a minimum the device and mount point. (The kernel will guess the type, and there are default options.)
np

emerge –unmerge gnome xorg-x11 ; emerge -p –depclean

thanks

no, i dont feel safe telling you how to do that just ask how to do it and someone else will surely be able to help u

any particular reason?

nvm

_AxS_ i just completed the installation , i wanted to find out if i need to install xorg-x11 before installing kdebase ?

If I do emerge –update –deep world I don't have to do –newuse world after that right?

i want install it again
coz I got errors

why not emerge –update –deep –newuse world?

could someone recommend some software that would create a map of my network? or perhaps something like traceroute but to show me which switches the packets are going through?

when trying to boot my laptop, I get loads of errors after "freeing kernel memory…" and when running things like badblocks, fsck etc. the errors are "ata1.00: tag 0 cmd 0xc8 Emask 0×9 stat 0×51 err 0×40 (media error)newlineata1.00: exception Emask 0×0 SAct 0×0 SErr 0×0 action 0×0newlineata1.00: (BDMA stat 0×20)", anyone have any ideas what I can do?

afk, bbl

That's not possible with switches.

That way it checks for updates and newuse flags and installs to handle both

I was just going down the handbook and it showed the first one then an entirely different one after that

I am about to download the tarbal from the mirrors, this is not where i pick desktop or server. it does not matter which mirror i pick does it they are all hosting the same file right?

traceroute works with routers, because routers decrement the Time-To-Live (TTL) and it can set the TTL to a certain value to see what router is that many hops away.

try and pick a mirror locally

huzzah..

But there's no way to do that with Ethernet switches, because they don't modify the packets.

well, let me put it this way. I want to locate a machine, some guy that's running p2p apps on my network. aside from searching room to room, any ideas?

_AxS_… It is a module loading ordering issue..

Yeah, ill get an osu one i686 stage3

If your switch supports vlans, maybe you can use that to identify the port?

Basically the remote module must be loaded prior to the other modules..

What is your network like?

yeah, it's managed switches, so they probably do vlans. the network is a few different buildings with a fiber optic backbone between them all.

well, you know his ip address host address, i take it?

If there's a way to ask the switches whether a MAC is on one of their local ports, that might help.
You could just flood ping him

yeah

if you have admin rights to the machine, ssh onto it and see what his username is

hm. thats a little wierd that it wouldn't already be handling the order. I'm not sure how to define that, i guess more modules.conf stuff?

Is there a good way of dealing with package bundles, when you want to try a masked version of it?

_AxS_ do i need to manually install xorg-x11 before installing kdebase ?

hello

/etc/portage/package.keywords can be made a directory, then you can have a separate file for this bundle of packages

Yes… I think a module preload directive should inform modprobe to load the remote first..

Is there any reason for MKVToolnix ebuild not being updated to 2.0.2 ?

bdf“`: usually a good idea yeah — that way you know x11 works before you go on to getting kde
bdf“`: oh, and get kdebase-meta

yeah, I'm sure it's just some windows laptop though. dhcp and all

They should already do this, but something is funny…

emerge -vp =package-version and another session with emacs package.keywords seems fairly brutal way of doing things

kdebase-startkde ? wouldnt work _AxS_

just block his ip on firewall and lop off all his access.

bdf“`: …maybe. dunno. you just mentioned 'kde-base'

You see the problem is udev runs before modules autoloads…
anyway preload..

set dhcp to give him a non-routable ip too…..

bdf“`: you want the meta ebuilds, not the monoliths

spose I could do that. I kinda wanted to catch the guy in the act though just to make sure it was something naughty before I get that extreme

or you could just ping the smeg out of him, and go following lights.
nmap -Avv {ip} first

guess that's an idea

_AxS_ ok , shall do

i wish more things compiled in parallel

Especially since bruteish method just unmasks what is required, it doesn't really unmask the bundle.

or better , that emerge would handle parallel emerging of anything that's the same depth on the (-t)ree.

Wouldn't be faster, your computer is already doing as much as it can with just one package

hello, i booted the minimal livecd, and no i have problems with my pppoe connection. i used pppoe-setup to configure, and it were started correcrly, but now i cant ping anything

i've got a distcc of -j12 — it would be faster, ginve most of the stuff still goes -j1

and yes in /etc/resolv.conf the dns jboss server hosting is stored

No it wouldn't you still only have one disk

is dhcpcd running?
IO isn't what's holding it up tho

Bottle necks

hm dont know, is this of importance?

since that would be what gives you an ip, yes.

When using a computer there is certain bottle necks, disk I/O, CPU, etc.

getting closer… brbv

oh i know, i'm well aware of all of that..

The distcc removes some of the CPU bottle neck and puts more preasure on the disk bottle neck instead

but it would be faster. even if emerging itself was offloaded to the foreign cpus and the local comp just handled io

So in the end you have a roof you can't pass over, a distcc of -j100 isn't better than a -j12

true, besides i wouldn't have access to 100 cores.

what is when i have a dhcpd running, how can i get it working?

dhcpcd
dhcpd is a server
does ppp0 have an ip address assigned to it?

In an emerge -av, what do bold/brighter entries mean?

how can i disable it or change the route?

Same with disks, there is only so much IO that can happend at the same time with performance gains, before it levels out and get pointless or goes all to hell

tried "make -j" on the linux kernel?

I could not find it in the man pages

that's where cacheing comes into play

_AxS_ to what? the dhcpd? ppp0 has assigned an ip address

which entries?

It still needs to write to disk at some point, it can't just have 10 hour write back cache…

ok that's good. you dont need dhcpcd then i guess. what is your route?

in the USE list or…?

_AxS_ what do you mean with "what's your route"? i just booted the livecd and configured the pppoe

Though a installation is a huge amount of reading

'route -n' — does that route ip traffic through ppp0?

the package name, and the word 'ebuild'

and some are not bold?

_AxS_ i cant check right now, cause i booted another distro. what is when the route is wrong, how can i change it?

hey

well you need to write down the route when you've got a good connection. the 'UG' line
and your dns servers too, just in case

_AxS_ hm ok, and how to change the route?:

http://surye.datamachine.net/images/hilight.png
See cups vs flash/lsof
I've been noticing this for a couple weeks now I think, have not had a chance to ask

i see. it looks like your term. i don't think it has any significance.

route add default gw [ipaddr]

and as gw the dns server?

where ipaddr is the address of the gateway specified in your current default route
no.
dns server is entirely different

hm ok thanks, i'll check it out!
bye

it was happening in putty and in konsole, so I thought it wouldn't be the term, and they hilight in consistant ways, and not always the first isn't or something, certain packages just do, I don't see how the term can choose stuff like that without emerge sending it different control chars =/

..i guess i could've told him he could do his install fromthat livecd.

is ati-drivers going to be updated? i see an 8.38.6 on www.ati.amd.com

any suggestion for p2p program?

probalby — takes a few days before it gets added to portage

Should i bother with any of the stuff in the nano -w /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf section

?

why is ssmtp the dvil?

its worth adjusting some use flags now, esp. if you're turning off some of the defaults (emerge –info to see your defaults)

_AxS_, which p2p program is good , i wanted to use amule but it is hard to settup

yeah, i don't know. it might be a bug in portage or something. i do know it doesn't actually mean anything.

?

Class start to a channel flamewar. Please don't do that.

rtorrent, ktorrent, azureus, …anything you want, there's tons

s/Class/Classic/

interesting, I'll post to bgo tonight, and see if it helps anyone.

cruxeternus, sorry

_AxS_, yeah but the one that does not use torrent

thanks

out of curiosity, what version of portage do you have?

dunno — go through packages.gentoo.org and pick one

_AxS_, I just meant, for webservers (php mailings), ssmtp is a pain - and you recommended a regular MTA over ssmtp - I was just wondering why

Portage 2.1.3_rc8 (default-linux/x86/2007.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.22-gentoo i686)

_AxS_, yeah i should do that

huh. blame it on the beta code.

yea, I'll poke around before I post to bgo ;P I am becoming good enough with python I may see the cause.

sounds good.

Is there a program I can emerge from Portage that blocks certain IPs I can list from my connection? I don't think my router can do that

iptables.

ttuttle I hear iptables is really hard to use

What do you mean "your connection"?

gift. apollon is a good frontend.

It's not that bad.
Do you mean from your entire network, or from that single computer?

grey_wolf, thanks alot

ttuttle Like, block them from entire network

there are frontends like Firestarter, which helps you

Can iptables do this ttuttle?

Sure.

iptables can almost everything

Cool cool

You need to do that from a router.

I have a Linksys router, so I have to do what?

You can't have one computer magically block traffic between two others. (Well, not easily. If you think iptables is hard…)
What kind?

BEFSR41

OH. well, ssmtp isn't meant to be a full-out MTA, that's why. i mean, i don't think it's even a daemon

Oh. I'm not sure how to do it with that.

what are you trying to do?

Wait, what are you trying to do?

_AxS_ block IPs
From connecting to me

Block IP's from where to where?
IP's from the Internet from connecting to your LAN?

Yes
Everywhere on my network

_AxS_, oic - ideally it's supposed to work well for sending a few php emails (which is all I want) but I could never get it to work consistently

cant do that unless you want to replace the befsr41 with a computer

That's probably unnecessary. You have NAT, right?

(or a better router)

Are you forwarding ports?

Yes ttuttle

(BTW, if you want a "better router", try a WRT-54GL.)

Ok guys I want to get a Webcam that is both Linux/Windows compat and is not discontinued

Why do you need to block them? (There might be an easier solution.)

I open up one port but I want to block certain IPs from connecting from that port but others I want to allow

(..and then install openwrt on it

Just because I don't want them connecting

lm_sensors with sensord option enabled give me this http://www.sorcerer.user.icpnet.pl/logs/sensord

anything supported by v4l/v4l2 is good.

v4l? what's that?

video4linux

Is it that you only want a handful of them connecting, or you want all of them except a few to be able to connect?

All except a few

oh, is there a list I can look at?

if i execute sensors i receive normal result :/

google for it, i think so

Are they abusing things?

avoid logitech QuickCams - they don't properly support v4l.

Oh, and what services?
Some daemons have built in access control by IP. (For example, Apache does.)

there are a few drivers in portage. eix -S webcam will show you most of them. go to their websites and see what they support

But in iptables, it's fairly easy: "iptables -A INPUT -s 12.34.56.78 -j DROP" will ignore all incoming traffic from 12.34.56.78.

ttuttle What if it's like hundreds

what should i do?

automate then

I'm looking at the WRT54GL but I don't really need wireless

are you just wanting to block people that are brute-forcing ssh?

Please… explain what you're trying to do.
That's fine, the WRT54GL is awesome anyway.
It runs Linux, and you can get third-party firmware for it that does tons of extra stuff.

— and explain it in #networking — its off topic here anyhow

Er, if he's using Gentoo, what's wrong? — this is "Gentoo Linux support", isn't it?

It looks like the "nano -w /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf" is just for show I dont have to mess with the flags right