or well

some apps don't work on amd64 because they're binary.. flash for example

emerge -C =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.20-r8

all? no app had problems with it ?

to unmerge all versions bellow 2.6.20-r8

nadd, put everything after -c in quotes

Krooks the only things not having 64 bins are like flash, and there's a wrapper for that to make it work in your browser.

Krooks, if you do a native 64bits install, make sure you use a multilib profile

so besides binary apps, others are all fine with it. Am I absolutely right on that ?

so you have 32bits backwards functionality

Krooks, why would things not work on 64 bit?

I don't know. Thats why I'm asking.

You still ’round?

you mean in the make.conf file under USE ?
you mean the global use flag, right ?

gah. I have no idea what's wrong with wpa_supplicant

ok now, I got that out of the way. Is there signifinant performance advantage with AMD-64bit ?

loops, thnx

Krooks depends. some apps yes, some no.

SwifT, mwace, you guys think that -j5 would work an a core 2 duo

I see. I guess some apps "understands" 64bit and others don't or not yet

Quick, make me sound intelligent! whats -j5?

mwace, MAKEOPTS, in make.conf for parallel compilations

Krooks, it's not "understand" .. some applications just benefit from running in 64 bit mode and some dont. just like some apps really run no better in 32 bit mode than in 16 bit

any MAKEOPTS you add can only slow down things and are only used if the build supports it anyway

Hi! Im still here…was afk

Hmm, in theory

tdr:I see

elhaxxorz it won't break anything, it will use more memory though and could slow down builds. compare a coupld different build options and see what works well.

Just when you thought the boss was dead and the girl was saved, the plot thickens! I can't enable AGP support in my kernel, the ' ' thing in the menu is '—' instead !

— = forced on

tdr, grknight, i was told that fast processors would be able to handle it. i have a core2 duo clocked at 3.0Ghz. and 4 GB DDR2-800 RAM

Oh, forced on… hmm, were else is AGP supposed to be put into place?

meaning another choice (probably a DRM) forced it on

Nice. Well, tell me if its a good change, I'm running an Athlon X2 52000+ /w 2Gb memory.

elhaxxorz well you have the ram to handle it, doesn't mean it will make it build quicker tho. try out -j4 and -j5 on the same app, see which works quicker

elhaxxorz It works on my Athon XP

Couldn't set video mode 1024×768 (32bpp 0 stencil 16 depth-buffer). SDL Error is: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL

Heh, I feel underpowered now. *bumps -j3 up to -j4*

what does this mean?

spat what video card do you have?

mwace, i upgraded from a single-core AMD4000+and 2GB RAM…livecd is about as fast now as my old machine was.

Were else should I enable AGP or throw in lines for AGP support?

Does KDE and other gui apps has significant performance boost with 64bit ? Is it faster bascially is my question.

nvidia something in 6 series

Nice. I upgraded from a 2.4ghz celeron D…. need I say more…

What was your graphics card model again?

celery is good! no calories at least! XD

but weird thing is that glxgears works fine even doom3-demo gives me proper images
i was actually trying to fix audio

Krooks well your desktop itself isn't going to be the real benefitting thing. check something that actually uses some horsepower

Because right after the Enabling RENDER acceleration line it should be stating what gpu it found which it doesnt so i think your card is not supported by that version of the driver (8776)

GeForce 8600GTS (eat on that elhaxxorz!), and I emerged that keyworded driver tdr was talking about

mwace and you did eselect opengl set nvidia ?

Not since emerging new driver, I'll try it again and re-run startx. Brb all.

ive gotten through 50 pkgs out of 116 in about 5mins. (emerging xorg-x11), and nice vc btw mwace! i only have a 7800GT

should the 'emerge –search "%tk-8"' command search every packet that contains the tk-8 word?

no. if you want to search descriptions use -S. if you want to search the contents of ebuilds, use qgrep from portage-utils.

how do I fix the 'passed undefined mode number' thing on bootup?

the newest nvidia driver supports it but im trying to find out if 8776 does or not

thinking i might be adventurous and go for -j6 once everything is installed and stable

that sounds like you're passing the kernel a dud vga parameter. what exactly does your kernel line look like?

kerframil, I would search all the packets that contain "tk-8" in the name

how do I set up the passphrase for an encrypted partition created with cryptsetup-luks?

so if there's a tk-8.xx.xx.x.x.x.x packet I would like to find it

well, emerge -s tk-8 should do the job just fine.

join #glest

package, not packet

vga=0×318

kerframil, yeah but that command gives me nothing…

aha! The 8776 driver doesnt support that card

well, then there are no packages whose names contain "tk-8"

darn! he left

dev-lang/tk-8.4.14

so there is that packet!

anyone else have trouble running glest?

(package)

oh, I see what you mean

kernel /boot/gentoo-2.6.20-hardened-r5 root=/dev/hda1 vga=0×318 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap
do you see anything wrong with that?

aha! The 8776 driver doesnt support that card

BlueEagle, video=vesafb:mtrr=3,ywrap

you can't include version numbers when using -s

I just compiled a new experimental driver. Lemme repost my logs and xorg.conf
but before I do that

BlueEagle, er, mtrr:3 was right, but the comma separation is important.

how do I auto-update config files after an emerge?

you're search package names
searching, sorry

etc-update ?

aha, thanks

hmmm, no, not in principle. are you using vesafb-tng?

kerframil, I finally understand tnx

a more automatic way is to grab cfg-update. that tool allows auto merging of unchanged configs as well as GUI merging of ones that have changed

dispatch-conf is also good for that, it keeps a record of changes made in case you need to revert back to an earlier version

or you can hire a butler and order him to make the config changes

you can do things like this though: emerge -p '=tk-8'

hi

because, in that case, a complete atom is accepted as an argument

kerframil, yeah, tnx very much

that's true, but I think you have to install rcs for that to work.

I didn't think so, but maybe I am… would that be in the kernel configuration?

man this stuff is starting to annoy me

My ide dvdrom drives are recognized as sr0 and sr1
what might be tge reason

I'm seriously considering the butler option after all this configuration trouble already

I don't have rcs installed

yes. the reason I ask is because, if you are, then you don't have to use the vga parameter; rather, you can specify the resolution as part of the video argument. try grep TNG /usr/src/linux/.config
hmm, ok. I must be mistaken then.

Does anybody have any references who will work in an enviornment with loud music?

Serkan, your kernel is using libata

afaik, it just keeps copies of older versions in /etc/config-archive

yes, you're quite right.

how do I find all files that were changed in the last 3 days ?

loops, that was the new system right?

Serkan, yes

ok thx

find . –min -4320

http://rafb.net/7PkbzJ33.html for my latest Xorg.0.log

that didn't find anything

Hey, I'm using the nvidia drivers to do twinview (2 monitors, 1 card) but my gnome toolbars are stretching across both monitors, is there a way to have it only stretch across the first monitor?

page not found

are you using x86 and gentoo-sources?

Doh.
http://rafb.net/p/7PkbzJ33.html for my latest Xorg.0.log

could someone help me out here. I have a iomega network drive which has some how messed up and now when i plug the ethernet in it doesnt read, So i took the hd out of the little drive bay and put it in my systems it is ata. when i try to mount it i get a error saying i am trying to mount wrong
file system , cfdisk says it is linux based hosting services filesystem

you are still using the 8776 driver: "compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.8776"

Doh.

thanks

Hmm, if you have chatlogs I'm curious if you could quote the command tdr called a while back

I'm scanning for SSID with wpa_supplicant and it's saying "Scan timeout - try to get results" can anyone help please?

You here?

/etc/portage/packages.keyword && emerge -av1 nvidia-drivers"

use "file -s /dev/whatever" to determine the filesystem
the partition type alone is not a reliable indicator
(note that "whatever" should refer to a partition, not the whole disk)

Aha. But a few lines below it theres a correction to that command

x86 hardened sources

ah, hardened-sources doesn't support vesafb-tng.

so i do
use "file -s /dev/hdc1?

in any case, the kernel is telling you that the mode number is not availbale. I can only suggest that you try a different one.
yes

will this work in slackware the same?
i only have slackware box at work

yes

ok

you mean this line? : " JackieRipper tmr: that should be "echo =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.14.09 \*\*"
tmr mwace: ^^"

any other ideas, i can trey
try

example output: /dev/sda1: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data

Yes, thanks

until you can be certain what the filesystem type is, I have no other recommendations to make.

anyone know where java-config keeps its info files for java generation 2?
for generation 1 its /etc/env.d/java

/etc/java-config-2 perhaps

nope

I don't know then. you could try #gentoo-java.

what is the name of that package that cleans unused/old/outdated portage packages

You there?

eclean !
got it

gentoolkit provides eclean (if you use it, I recommend using it with the –desctructive parameter otherwise it is extremely slow)

how do you set the passphrase for a partition set up with cryptsetup-luks?

You around?

are you using openoffice.org-bin ?

no self compiled

was the java use flag set?

yes

I'm after the ebuild associated with 'x11-drivers/nvidia-divers-100.14.09', which are keycoded. How can I emerge this ebuild?

/etc/portage/package.unmask

ishino; Ok, thanks

if you're on arch, you'd have to add it to package.keywords as well (without the

If you have the java user flag set then ooo should have automatically picked up the jre…see this forum thread and try the checks it mentions: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-504539-highlight-openoffice+java.html

(and without the version)

Aggk! Ok, show me what the two commands look like
I can't get it for the life of me.

gave you the first already

/etc/portage/package.keywords

Ok, thanks

isn't that 'drivers' =P

heh, and since i copied your text, you must remove your own typo (it's drivers, not divers)

/etc/portage/package.keywords ?

Thingy, doesn't matter.

but is the politically correct version

is assumed.

ah

politics in unmasking.. now gentoo is getting to complicated

how do you use cryptsetup to create an encrypted partition with a passphrase?

Yes!
Got it!

no, it's just me :p

Check the wiki…is this what you are after? http://gentoo-wiki.com/SECURITY_System_Encryption_DM-Crypt_with_LUKS

how can i get xchat to run commands on startup?

open up the servers list, edit the server properties and in there is a bit where you can specify commands to run
er that should be SwiftJim and not SwifT

Thingy, cool thx

that didnt help much but thx anyway

hello

i might try to recompile OOo with diffrent default jvm selected

newbie question..which is better…compiling a driver to the kernel or making it a module

use the bin pkg…its not worth the recompile

but i doubt it will help

looks like a good candidate, thanks

heh

well i recompiled it about 4 times in last 2 days so couple more times wont make diffrence

ouch

first it had "no letters visible" problem

torindel, i lose
s/i/u/

then you moved window outa screen / minimized it and back it would draw them then, but when you where writing in oowriter they where invisible lol
?

that many re compiles of OO

I think he mean't something like "bad luck"

I have a rally old laptop, but a really nice monitor, 24" — 1980 x 1200 — what vga= parameter do I need to pass to have a native resolution frambebuffer?

torindel, yea sorry i play a lot of games so bad luck = losing

yikes…im sure your laptops gcard is not going to be able to do 1980×1200…whats the gcard installed?

it's a 4mb

Thingy, the newer one will be able to do that for 2d

it wont support that res then

minerale, nope not a chance

well I can run X at 1680×1050

what colour depth?

15 bits

yea that probably the max your gonna get then

but how do I find the vga= parameters for that resolution?

emerge –sync keeps failing for me, it hits /usr/portage/dev-python/pyxattr/ and the permissions and user/group for it are all weird, and i cant seem to change it even as root
im not really sure where to go from there.. i wanted to just remove it and re mkdir pyxattr

its a miracle a game that works ok

My iBook is "pc speaker"-beeping at every tab et cetera in the console, what part of the kernel should I disable to make it stop that?

minerale, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions that has the modes up tp 1600×1200
i dont think any one every expected vesa to do more than that

http://rafb.net/p/T41OVt56.html what the hell is wrong there?

plus at time vesa was standarized there werent widescreens -.-;

different applications have different ways of doing it: http://linuxreviews.org/quicktips/bell/

bercik you are building an old version, which is lightly to fail for all kinds of reasons

pc speaker support

ah, which version is ok?

Hey, whats the X11 USE flag?

X
USE="X"

heh, that's disabled, it was the first thing I checked

Capitol, not lowercase? Doh =(

thanks, that works just fine. But are those changes permanent?

bercik, if would try the latest version available,

ok, i will see, thanks

bercik, if you still have the same problem we should probably dig deeper … but i would blame ati version first it's binary ..

as far as i know that's the only ting _in the kernel_ that is related

then perhaps it uses ALSA or something like that. But that sounds strange too

no…you will need to put these commands somewhere they are run when logging in and when launching x. E.g. /etc/conf.d/local.start for the console one and the X one…umm somewhere in /etc/X11/ cant be specific right now

I have an "invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.14.09" - how do I solve this?

ah. Thought so
thanks

bercik, the errors itself appear to be problems with compiler - inline assembler . Are you using something other than gcc? did you set masm=something in cflags? ..

add = in front

thanks

yngwin malmsteen

how can i change the fonts(menus) for kde apps(amarok) in gnome?

no that's yngwe

87 dependencies for distcc
on a new install
takes a day before i can start using disctcc

use kcontrol

oh

tuxick, dont set you use flags before you install the base system
yngwin, thx

ye i noticed
no use flags at all?
hmm

hola

ow, in fact i did comment USE out

Hello all… I am trying to set up a DNS jboss server hosting as described on gentoo-wiki. However, when I try to start up the named service daemon (/etc/init.d/named start), I just get [!!] as the result. I can't find any mention of a problem in
/var/log/messages and no log files (or pid file) produced from bind. Can anyone help me figure out why this thing isn't starting up?

/etc/portage/package.use && emerge distcc'

ack

"!!! ERROR: x11-libs/gtk+-2.10.11 failed." and I get a lot of lines talking about cairo needing "X" use flag, which I *have*

good old gtk

tuxick, once its done you can then go into /etc/portage/packake.use and remove that line to get the GUI sections of distcc but they aint really helpful / worth it IMO

www.poker-jack.6x.to

i never used the gui stuff

hello

yngwe is swedish ?

i have this problem when i tried to compile totd

cairo needs to be recompiled as well has have X flag set

www.poker-jack.6x.to

Aha, thanks.

yngwin, there has got to be an easier way than installing half of bloody kde just to change a fint
s/fint/font/
mwace, 'emerge -DuN world'

pleas help me !!!

you should be able to edit the config file by hand

yngwin, cool ill lookinto that

moo

does it work if you remove the `-mtune=i686`? you are running a 386 gcc

I am trying to set up a DNS server as described on gentoo-wiki. However, when I try to start up the named service daemon (/etc/init.d/named start), I just get [!!] as the result. I can't find any mention of a problem in /var/log/messages and no log files (or pid file) produced from bind. Can
anyone help me figure out why this thing isn't starting up?

/var/bind/

the compiler uses -Werror, instead of -Wall, which isn't funny ’cause the compile bails out on every warning it find (and it usually finds some)

if you're using syslog-ng, something may show up in VT12 upon startup

let me see

yes it's work
thank grknight
ah no
it's not working

How do I get to VT12? I am SSH'ed in to the server that's hosted god know's where.

see what ?

give me a second

ok

i'm not sure from an ssh session
i know there is a way to monitor it.. but not sure how

Ah… found what looks like a log file: named.run in /var/bind… reading it now

the Makefile contains it, not sure if this is intended
as in: this should compile host without warnings, if you find any, bail out ’cause we think something is wrong

i don't understand what is the problem ?
it's my config ?

no, it's the package itself

ok

i don't have a gcc 4.2 around, so i assume this is the actual problem

Whats a nice set of arguments for emerge world after I recently did a kernel update?

crazy!! BOMBS IN ENGLAND!

err 4.1.2
the fix is pretty easy though

Can I connect a Motorola phone v3 on usb port and mount it?

do you know how to handle patches?

no

then it's not easy

Whats a nice set of *flags for 'emerge world' after I recently did a kernel update?

it's best to file a bug

i can learn it :p

wow aparently there have just been 3 terrorist attacks on airports and major locations around the UK

i'll have to go away in a few minutes
let's see how far we get
can you untar the sources please?

what sources ?

the windows XP sources…
the totd sources, obviously

no , i just emerge :p

One attack and two what appear to be attempts.

file a bug please or ask someone else

ok

point him/her to the sources, Makefile.in, contains -Werror (which causes your problem)

hi, can someone help me to get my 24" tft to work with X? It only works with 1600×1200 pixels

ok

sorry, but i have to leave

no problem :p

be back later, maybe if you stay around, we can get it done

ok thanks for your help

hi

http://rafb.net/p/uvahuU98.html
what the hell is wrong there?

it means you're missing a package

which one?

XML-Parser cannot be found

Thanks, that got it. How long should it take to update world DNS servers now that I have it up and running?

depends on setings
TTL

i have got this package

then perl cant find it for some reason.. remerge it

$TTL 84600 Is that in seconds?

yes

ok, I need to lower it a bit then

to late
other servers probably have 84600 in they cache

IC

so until it expires they don't ask you for new data

i remerged, and now xqf is emerging and seems to be ok, thank you

ok, I guess I wait then
X)
Thanks for helping me get it up and running!

may be somebody knows how to turn off check integrity of package after deltup applied delta to it?

is there a way to use cfdisk instead of fdisk during a min install?

I have no ATI acceleration, What's wrong in my xorg.conf? http://rafb.net/p/NsXr4i30.html

Any package containing sdptool ?

if some application has "doc" USE flag, is that something that will show up when the index is built in KDE Help Centre?

add `Option "AIGLX" "off"` to the ServerFlags section
few other settings.. but i cannot remember off the top of my head

bercik, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log

!google site:gentoo-wiki.com HOWTO ATI

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers

and read that jeeves link

http://rafb.net/p/Qtc7JL95.html

quiet day eh

you need /dev/agpgart support in your kernel

uhhhhmm.. i'm the defalt /etc/fstab from stage3-i686, the /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom has "audo" as the fstype
that IS a type, correct?
err s/type/typo/

no it's a typo

is there an application that compiles all the documentation on your system into one place?

should be auto

should be auto, i have iso9660 for mine

when making GART support.. use your motherboard type and not the graphics board type

i thought so
we should check bugzilla and make sure someone has noted this

how can i see a hidden pid…
i forget
:P
*forgot

no apps that compile docs in /usr/share/docs together then?|

what d'you mean `hidden`?

nvm

you get all that?

its solved

dprintf fails. glibc problem?? please assist… http://rafb.net/p/wogR9V96.html

hmmph

hello, my gentoo box shows me (hwclock, date, kdeclock) the time it was 10 minutes ago. My BIOS clock is set properly, and gentoo _still_ shows a wrong hour (it's 10/15 minute difference, so timezones are not the case I think). what could be wrong?

thanks, i changed, i will see now

oh, and by the way, after shutting the computer down, the bios clock is STILL showing the right time

sorry, i was away from keyboard

what could be possibly wrong?

bpuzon, do you have CLOCK_SYSTOHC set in /etc/conf.d/clock?

Friesia it's set to "no"

then probably it's not the case
i've got something similar, but it's set to yes
that happens after I boot Windows XP sometimes

Friesia I've got no idea, why it backes the clock :/

ATI acceleration works, thank you guys

bpuzon, synchronize time at boot and have no problems ))

it has no reason, and I've never do anything strange with clock/kernel/system, that could have left it scattered
Friesia I don't always have the instant internet connection…
"Why is that? O_0"

I'd like to know that too

who is znx

im znx

Friesia, Windows and Linux handle timezones differently - you must use the Windows way on a dual bot box

why?

NeddySeagoon, how do I do that?

i have one more question
how to clean a system from a packages which was emerged and now are demerged?

you mean the files in /usr/portage/distfiles ?
i use eclean for that

bercik, clean your /usr/portage/distfiles

Friesia, Set your BIOS time to your local time (from the clock on the wall) and set your timezone (/etc/localtime) to be /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime

is there any script to clean it?

eclean

Hey. How do I make the settings I set with tc permanent?

thank you

I suggest to put them into either /etc/conf.d/local.start or in the ppp-up-script

Friesia, thats what windows expects and linux will fall in too

okay

Oh, so I have to write a script for it? It's not like with iptables, where there's an initscript to save the rules that gets loaded again when you reboot?

I don't know about an initscript for tc. but I used it with a dialup connection which did not exist while booting, so I had to put it in the up-script of the ppp interface

Well, the system has a permanent ethernet connection to the internet, so I guess local.start…

can anyone suggest a message board where people are knowledgeable about xorg?
I'm getting a weird bug on startx

#xorg

there's a start

or ask here, some people know about xorg, too

whats the issue

How can I get fetchmail to be started uid 0 from /etc/init.d?

well I had everything working perfectly for a while, beryl, xgl, the whole works. then today I tried startx and I get a crash …
I'm reemerging xorg-server and my ati-drivers packages
if that doesn't work I'll post the backtrace

I'd like it to fire up, notice which users have a .fetchmailrc, fork (and presumably drop privelages), and start grabbing mail in daemon mode for each user.

i've used distcc before this time it doesn't seem to be working

only line in my /etc/fetchmailrc is 'set daemon 300'

hm

what does your xorg log file say

if the ati driver is to blame, good luck.

k, thanx, DrAlgebra, gonna give it a try

once my xorg emerge is finished I'll try it again

Users' .fetchmailrc files are known to work (took 'set daemon 300' out of the individual files, hoping that the setting in /etc/fetchmailrc would cascade down or whatever you call it)

emerge whirledpeas

is there an app that will index all the help files in /usr/share/doc for me? hopefully one that will let me view them in it as well

u could make it a project and write a perl script that does that and share it with the rest of us

or just run apache locally with that dir aliased

yes I could do that, but then I'd have to know what was there…

how do i emerge "svn"?

emerge subversion

i would, and might, if and when i have more time. likely to make it a kde or qt app though

thx

you do? if no index file is found, you can have it show the directory contents

simmerz that might be a neat project

yeah - surprised no one has done it before…

post it on advogato.org or whatever maybe up in the forums, but who knows there might be something, i'm nto aware of

svn = subversion

SOOOoooo, who bought an iPhone?

dunno but youtube has a great vid of someone dropping theirs within seconds of opening the box!

that's not gentoo support related

this must be a new kind of irc-spam…

but grknight is right

You can use #gentoo-chat for general chat

erm gohmdoree, what was that /query for?
ah ok
theory is the same for apache, but hey

i'm trying to install mplayerplug-in, but i depends on "www-client/mozilla-firefox" it should depend on "|| (www-client/mozilla-firefox www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin)", doesn't?

no
mplayerplug-in is source code
it needs source code to build with
-bin doesn't come with source code

mplayerplug-in doesn't need firefox source code to build

in Gentoo, source ebuilds are the norm - don't be surprised if you get hassles using -bin's (et al.)
says who? You? :p

yes.

!google updated ebuild site:gentoo-wiki.com

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_an_Updated_Ebuild

have fun, then ^

ok, I am a little confused… I thought the vga and video options on the kernel line in grub.conf where to set up the framebuffer so you could have the cool little penguin during boot up?

i'll create a personal ebuild for it. but i'll fill a bug so that the ebuild in portage is updated…

didn't distcc mean some CC="distcc" somewhere?

good idea

i'm also trying to setup distcc

that works on kernel mostly

I took the lines out entirely to get rid of the undefined mode error, but the penguin is still there..
uI took the lines out entirely to get rid of the undefined mode error, but the penguin is still there../u

hmm, but distcc isn't doing a thing here

i have a slow machine and a fast one, the compiling is to be done on the fast one

doc only mentions FEATURES flag

wher is the distccd supposed to run?
*where

blueg if u enabled fb support in ur kernel, that penguin should show

should I enable both timers in the kernel hpet and tsc or only one?

blueg the options are to specify details of the fb
take out fb support in ur kernel and u should see those go away, or i think there is an option in the kernel for those images, i think..

so it apparently works without specifying them?

distccd is required on the helper machines

the fb will work if ur kernel is set up right, but that'll help you specify the bits resolution etc

grknight, ok thanks

I want the penguin, I just thought I had to set those options for it to work…

BlueG, You only need fb support in the kernel. the paramters on the kernel line fine tune how it works

ah it is working
ok

grknight, so what do i need to do on the machine where it is to compile?

?
should I enable both timers in the kernel hpet and tsc or only one?

well, it is working fine, so I guess there is no need to fine tune…

same or different arches?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml

x86-32 and x86-64

BlueG correct

blueg sounds good

tuxick, i've read that, it's not comlpete
*complete

might need a crossdev setup. so you're running i686 and amd64 arches?

yes
the helper machine is the amd64
do i still need that?
since it supports 32bit too

possibly, due to the fact that the binary names will be different

can anyone help with a postfix problem i am having? i have it on the gentoo forums http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-567543-start-0.html

hi

grknight, ok i have it

!google gentoo crossdev

http://www.sable.mcgill.ca/~dbelan2/crossdev/crossdev-powerpc-i686.html

fail
!google crossdev site:gentoo.org

http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/users/kumba/crossdev/

jeeeeeeves

dooooooork

stfu jeeves

i'm running crossdev -t i686

um.. wait on that.
you'll need to specify the 4 items so that they match

grknight, what items?
binutils, gcc, kernel and libc?

`crossdev –help` and look at linux-headers, glibc, gcc and binutils on the source machine and feed the exact versions you have to crossdev

it links to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml
that no good?

tuxick, do you think i'm stupid
i'm fucking reading that

language, and be nice

hi

it's another page

strange things happen if you don't match the versions (crossdev pulls ~arch automatically which may not match)

hmm

8-)

I feel stupid… I just spent 3 hours trying to get X to start assuming that it had something to do with my ati drivers. Turns out it had to do with my mouse configuration? Since when does a faulty mouse entry in xorg.conf cause an actual crash?

How do I start the python-dbus services?

I really dislike setting up xorg.conf. it's so incredibly picky and unintuitive

let`s dissapear
only echo passing through the night

eoc i've seen that happen a lot
thats why read the logs
saves sometimes

there's actually a flag that ignores things like mouse errors

really?

anyone has E17 running on sid? — I tried to use edevelop.org repository but can't find the public key - anyone can point me to some docs?
woops, sorry, wrong channel

yea `Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"` into ServerFlags
of course, if it does fail, you don't have a mouse to point things

lo

why many versions of packages is masked, are they whors or unstable?

whors == worse ??

yes, surry, my english isn't perfect
sorry*

why is portage giving me filesystem advice?

bercik if something is masked it might that it doesn't work, or it hasn't been fully tested yet, etc
bercik u could write to the dev's or arch testers and install the unstable version and they will mark it ~x86 or ~ppc or whatever for you

is eselect-1.0.10 good? (it's masked)

u could look for it at bugs.gentoo.org and see any notes regarding it

thanks

I want to rip a CD from a drive which is on one machine straight over a network to another machine, how can I go about this?
err, straight into a file on the other machine
I have ssh access

that seems like a tremendously bad idea

thought re-arange

dd if=/dev/cdrom0 | ssh machine dd of=image.img

_markt, not enough disk space on computer A, no disc drive in computer b =/
DrAlgebra, ah, didn't know you could pipe things like that
ssh machine dd if=/dev/cdrom | dd of=image.iso?

yes

Hi, opera suddenly stopped using qtlib to display the menus and everything
i know qtlib's there. so how do i get opera to use it again?

cool, thanks DrAlgebra
useful knowledge =p

opera doesn't have any non-qt options, does it?

it has gnome, markt.

news to me

or does it ?
wait. lemme check

it has a gnome USE variable
I don't know what for

that's for the menu item

1 06/30/07)(gnome -qt-static

in the gnome menu
opera is qt

yeah, DrAlgebra - sorry for being imprecise.

eany one has wireless internet on gentoo?

tons of people

so just enable the qt use flag and i'm good to go eh? i think i did that already…once more i'll try

no, you don't want that use flag
qt-static will install its own copy of the qt libraries

i don't know how can i emerge wireless-tools if i don't have internet 0.o

ok, so i'll emerge it without any local use flags and see what happens.

did you install gentoo without internet?

with a cable or with the live-cd

upd, thats right down here at gentoo, the internet has you.

hm?

I could have sworn the install cd had wireless-tools; the problem for me was missing ndiswrapper, which I had to install from windows

i don't have cable

is there a replacement for firestarter now that project has died
?

I'm guessing iptables won't do

man iptables
heh jk.. check freshmeat

no, not the iptables manual

you can download files from a live-cd like Knoppix, from another system and transfer them with a usb drive or whatever way you prefer

you need a PhD in network security to read that thing

i setup iptables nat router with connection tracking.. i dont have phd

_markt, its no good. opera's menus are still using neither qt nor gnome. looks like redmond

or luck

DrAlgebra, if i give the packet on usb wher i must transfert it in use portagE?

use shorewall

did you do it by reading the manual or by finding online resources?

ping

_markt, sure
and using man page

that's cheating

lol

/usr/portage/distfiles

`date`.ipt too

you get the files to download with: emerge -pvf wireless-tools

locked myself out a lot

stealth i've done that

DrAlgebra, ok tnx i will try i hope wireless will work

u learn eventually

fscking skype

language …

iptables is cool and i dont mind using it what i want is a nice GUI telling me whats going on

yea thats what happend.. _markt looking at the flowchart for iptables works good too

if it needs qt with USE="accessibility dbus", then it should emerge qt with them

mi5 shorewall

MI5-DoesIT: i really like FWBuilder(.org)

gohmdoree, cool thx

but who wants a gui if ur using gentoo

whoever wants one, which is the beauty

lunk true true

we want gentoo & gui -)

when i mask opera-9.21 shouldnt it automatically emerge the next closest version available, namely 9.20?
instead i get the masked error msg

gohmdoree, i know it goes against the whole idea but … shiny things good

how do i get emerge to install 9.20?

emerge =www-client/opera-9.20
maybe not =; I just made it up

can anyone help me update drive superblocks in a couple of raid arrays? …I want to change the node names they use, basically change /dev/md1 to /dev/md2 and vice versa. I did `mdadm –stop /dev/md1; mdadm –stop /dev/md2` and changed the relevant entries in /etc/mdadm.conf to how I wanted
the node names to be. I then did `mdadm –assemble –update=name /dev/md1; mdadm –assemble –update=name /dev/md2`, which looked like it worked fr

i need help to install my usb network card
http://pastebin.ca/597806

hmmm, I'm a bit confused by the `man emerge' explanation of –with-bdeps; how does it install without getting the build time dependencies?

Hi I have a problem with bittorrent-curses. It seems it doesn't work

Please I need help with Xorg, My linux based hosting services system is no longer stable after installing the latest Xog. doing something simple like changing the resolution cause the screen to go blank (turned off) and system completely stop
responding)

No error, no warning just bittorrent-curses ./test.torrent and nothing happens
Anyone knowas something about it ?

absolutely nothing to do with gentoo, but if someone could please tell me which one of these names they like best web hosting for a new business, I would really appreciate it — Impride, Undertech, Fusetech, Futegration, UITech, UILife

Banana Split, Inc.

lol, it has to sound a tad more credible

Pwnsters, LLC

hmmm, I like it

I hate marketingspeak

FUDcrunchers, anon

well, I can't be going to check out our products, just go to bananasplit.com, lol

any co name with tech in it is way played out

and anyway, it's taken

or ends in ion

TransGlobalHyperMart.net

how about Underware, inc

taken

and on that note…
ktopicthxnow#gentoo-chatok?

kojiroisthemaster!

taken

/j #gentoo-ops

I need HAL/dbus to recognize a mounted iso as an 'optical drive' — Is this possible?

hello

hi

What CFLAGS work best for Core 2 Duo?

if you want to read an iso image then use mount loop
is that what you mean?

i just filed a bug, including a fix for your problem (see bug #183768)

https://bugs.gentoo.org/183768 tri, P2, x86, karsten.baumgarten@gmx.net-maintainer-needed@gentoo.org, NEW, pending, net-dns/totd fails to compile due to -Werror in Makefile

either -march=prescott or -march=nocona combined with -mtune=generic. I use "-march=nocona -mtune=generic" personally.

and now i'm updating world and no distcc kicking in
very odd

no — I've already mounted the iso — but hal/dbus will not recognize it as an optical device

thanks

you're welcome

i have no ideas what are you trying to accomplish, sorry

it's in bugzilla ?

the reason for the -mtune argument is that prescott/nocona are P4/Netburst processors (Core is quite different, but does have support for the same SIMD instruction sets - MMX/SSE/SSE2/SSE3).

see the URL above

that sounds quite silly, it is not an optical drive

i found thanks

I know — but the program I'm trying to run is looking for an optical drive

karsten baumgarten

…

i think he's trying to emulate soemthing

indeed

don't tell anyone

*shrug* fix the app instead

XD

sorry ok
i have never fixed a bug

i think hal,dbus only dealing with *physical* devices, never heard any cases about emulate

which is no problem at all

yea — how does it know when a physical drive is on the computer?
IE, a cd placed in the cdrom

just make sure you file a bug, if you happen to find it

dmesg?

interesting. My ibook dies completely when I insert a USB wifi stick

guys, how to get pictures from a Canon camera? I think that the canon's cameras just can be accessed via a software…. some idea?

some sort of kernel panic i'd suppose

are you familiar with portage overlays (i.e. do you know how to use the stuff in the bug report)?

I know you can use f-spot and digikam with canon cameras

does shorewall have a gtk interface? or is its GUI just a webpage?

I am using them both for one IXUS and one EOS-D

no

pozican:im only suggesting, i dont even know how to emulate stuff, can't help you further. sorry
pozican:im only suggesting, i dont even know how to emulate stuff, can't help you further. sorry

i am a noob :p

coz for me, IMHO, webpage != GUI

LqR, hummmm thanks!

but there was something you had to do about the USE flags for digikam to get support for my cameras I recall

any1 know an ide for dev-lang/R?

just out of curiousity, are you testing some apps or something?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds

naw, playing with cedega — people in #cedega are dreadfully idle though

hello everyone

no problem. Althogh there might be better solutions

if you run into trouble, ask in here

ok

has anyone here ever re-emerged all the packages on their system at once?

cedega trys to be too user-friendly and detect optical drives instead of asking you where your cdrom is mounted
makes for a frustrating day

I'd say it would be best if there would be some sort of overlay fileystem driver so you could access your camera just like any disk-based device

i see, perhaps you may want to tinker with cedega configure files or settting

sure

can anyone help me update /dev/md2 to /dev/md1?

all serious cameras are mass storage devices, just the silly ones do speciuhl things

Since I have upgrade my xorg, My system is no longer stable, doing something simple like changing screen resolution
causes my system to stop responding and my screen to be turned off (even Alt+sysRq+B doesn't work in this case)
I use xorg-x11-7.2 my driver is i810
anybody can help me?

Is it possible to sync a Zen Creative with Linux? Does it work the same way? I know with some other mp3 I had, I could store things but not access them from the actual mp3 UI

what command is for lspci ?

no one replied
but wait a bit and see

lspci

kerframil, I see. Isn't one of the upcoming gccs have Core 2 optimization built in?

lspci *is* a command
the package is pciutils, if that's what you want to know

Since I have upgrade my xorg, My system is no longer stable, doing something simple like changing screen resolution,causes my system to stop responding, and my screen to be turned off (even Alt+sysRq+B doesn't work in this case), I use xorg-x11-7.2 my driver is i810 ,anybody can help
me?

ah like root

yes, but I'm not sure which one (certainly gcc-4.2.0 doesn't have it).

so you'd call canons EOS-D series silly?

QT4Dance, You only get 4 lines … we got it all anyway, the bot was kind to you

the topic here is gentoo support. Stay on-topic please.
#gentoo-chat for other stuff

oh, sorry

actually, my bad. Thought you were having an off-topic conversation but it was just one line. nm

NeddySeagoon:

it's a shame the vendors don't adhere to standards

indeed

what do I use to make an iso of a cd? dd?

mkisofs?

is there some sort of overlay driver for the standard-camera-images-transfer-protocol-thingy?

yes, dd works fine

mkisofs I think ?

sorry ishino , i got distracted

QT4Dance, What version of the i810 driver do you use ? With kernel DRI support or the external modules?

at least, it's fine for the trivial case (where the CD contains a single data session).

uhm…and you are?

I tried to disable the DRI completely and still the program exist, my i810 driver is the latest

whats the best way to go about it? i run "emerge -pte world" to make sure, but the tree looks weird…

which latest? the 1.7.4 or the 2.0.0?

2

do that?
do whaT?

emerge -e world is sufficient

2 is hightly buggy. stay with the 1.7.4 for now
*highly

QT4Dance, There are at least 2 "latest". 1.7… and 2.0 one is in stable the other in testing. We need numbers

i want to reemerge all the packages on my system, because i'm getting weird stability errors

emerge -uDN world should be sufficient, with maybe a revdep-rebuild

it is 2.0.0

QT4Dance, TRy backing off to 1.7.4 then

then you want emerge -e, even though it might not be necessary to rebuild -all- packages

i've done a uDN, but i still get weird stability errors.

NeddySeagoon, DrAlgebra Will try 1.7.4 thank you

LqR, yeah, you're right. if only i knew _which_ packages were causing the stability
instability*

QT4Dance, let us know what happens

just out of curiosity: what kind of stability errors?

random crashes or what sort of instability?

Sure

heh, I went downstairs and told my ibook to emerge something, and then I returned and completely forgot what it was