Parser is

I thought adding a udev rule for my RAID card would just add a symlink and leave it taking up sda.

it worked for me once in a similar case

Okay, well, I'll try it later then. Thanks.

could someone see if they can access this site please? : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_emerge_e17 i wish to see if it is down, or if my internet is acting up again

Do you know a good udev rule reference?

ok, and look for automatically created udev-rules, they often mess up alot too

The audomatic ones use %k

just look at the topic

is there any way to use a java plugin in a 64bit browser on amd64 ?

oic, thankyou

i have the 32bit java plugin selected but it only works in opera for obvious reasons

I guess not at the moment, it is not supported anymore and has been removed unfortunately

Anyway, my friends want food so I'll try fixing my problem again later. Thanks anyway guys.

if you need it urgendly you could try the google-cache

kk tks, but its not urgent

nowhereman, so basically Sun does not provide a means to run java applets on a 64bit browser .. ?

afaik not, it's really a pitty, maybe java 7 will have one

nowhereman, do you advise me to drop the compiled firefox and switch to firefox-bin ?
or just drop amd64 altogether ?
growing sick of breaking flash & java

well if you really need java/flash in your browser you should propably try the bin thing, but I personaly don't like that, dropping amd64 wouldn't be an option for me either

drop flash and java

nowhereman, likewise actually, and though I don't actually *love* flash or whatever nonfree software, the world forces it on to me
hkBst, not an option

yeh.. I still haven't gotten java web host browser plugin working properly yet
and it's annoying since there are things that require it.

part of running only linux host is obtaining sorta feature parity so my work (which i do to earn money) can get done

anyone ever encounter a system that didn't poweroff when you used the poweroff command, but it instead halts?

there is a difference?

usually what i do poweroff the computer turns itself off

make sure acpi is enabled in the kernel

I don't exactly remember but before atx I think you had to manualy press the off-button after shutting down

guys this isnt really a gentoo question but the wine channel has only 2 people in it an im completely lost

Hello I am going to change IDE 40gb HDD in my laptop, to the new one IDE HDD120gb myself, what must i do? just turn off Laptop, change it, and turn on? no need to tweak something in bios? or remove battery????

#winehq

ask #hardware

thnx

ahh tyu
*ty

Does anyone know a good console-based music player that can handle playlists?

they dont respond

checkout mp3blaster

its atx

wait more then 2 min for a reply :-p

nice nick btw

does it work good s0ulslack ? i've tried it but had some problems playing mp3 files

worked great here

more than 4 waiting no reply

you just emerged it and it worked fine without any hacks?

indeed davvs

nice, i'll give it a try again

mpd + mpc, bashmp or ncmpc

is /var/run/ automattically cleaned?

Ok I just got through fixing a shared library error and reemerged some packages. I restarted my computer and a lot of things didn't start: /etc/init.d/coldblug missing , cannot start ivman as hald could not start , dhcpStart: interface eth0 is not ethernet or 802.2 Token Ring, cannoth start netmount as net.eth0 could not start.

thanks thpani , ill try them too

I don't have any internet so I am talking using the live CD. How can i fix this?

and one thing more, i wanted to install gentoo from LiveCD but it always fails due to different errors…why
?

anything interesting in dmesg?

I'll check. I'll have to reboot though.

I'm guessing its related to the latest expat update

That's right.

you able to login at all?

yeah

mzbot, teach stan_the_fisher expat

expat-2.0.1 has been marked stable. However, it is not ABI compatible with earlier versions. To successfully upgrade and fix any reverse dependencies (along with several other issues), run: emerge =portage-2.1.2.9 && emerge -n portage-utils && emerge -qep world | grep –color=never -oFf (scanelf -plRBF '%F %n' | awk '/libexpat.so.0/{print $1}' | xargs qfile -qC | sort -u; echo -e "libtool\ncurl") | xargs emerge -1

i wanted to install gentoo from LiveCD but it always fails due to different errors…why

should have paid more attention to the messages at the end of merges heh

use elog

I'll try that

not me, stan_the_fisher

wait! Can I emerge all that if I don't have internet?

you shouldn't have restarted…
just take the livecd and do a chroot

do i need to mount the drive?

How essential is the 'kerberos' use flag? If I can't think of any reason that I need it, can I safely omit it?

sure, why not

Dunno, that's why I'm asking.

yes, just like you did it when installing gentoo in the first place

kerberos is a protocol associated with single sign on within a network

hi, is there already a quick-solution for libexpat.so.0 problem?

no, see /topic

mzbot, teach phantomsc expat

expat-2.0.1 has been marked stable. However, it is not ABI compatible with earlier versions. To successfully upgrade and fix any reverse dependencies (along with several other issues), run: emerge =portage-2.1.2.9 && emerge -n portage-utils && emerge -qep world | grep –color=never -oFf (scanelf -plRBF '%F %n' | awk '/libexpat.so.0/{print $1}' | xargs qfile -qC | sort -u; echo -e "libtool\ncurl") | xargs emerge -1

whats the best command line mp3 player?

Can you explain "single sign on"?

try media-sound/moc..

I'd say its mplayer

cplay

thanks guys

phantomsc, revdep-rebuild worked for me

which uses mpg123|mpg321

Help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerberos_(protocol) has more - usually only used on local networks

thank you, I already tried and failed, so I'll try to follow that bot's instructions

what is up with libexpat?? my system is not seroiously broken and I am not good at all this cli stuff
not = now *

see topic
/topic

I am trying to use bitchx for the first time - how do I see the topic?

/topic

Hmm, ok, thanks.
So if I'm running X applications over a network, then it might be useful (though not essential)?

I want to not emerge Nvidia everytim I do "world", because I install the drivers myself with the nvidia sh from their website. That way I can also install beta drivers and they run better here. How can I tell portage/paludis to not look for updates on the nvidia driver?

it's more than likely you won't need/use it

mask it

k…
just put the packge name in there then I'll see if it works

In package.mask - read "man portage"

is there a way to see the post-message from a merged package after the message has gone away?

yes, elog

mzbot, gentoo audifahrer elog

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?style=printable&part=3&chap=1

Ok, cool. What about the "ipv6" use flag?

thanks Joseph_K worked
Just put the package in the text file and that's it

thanks to all

my wireless connection won't work after an update of some packages, like gentoo-sources, udev
it has an rt2500 chipset

(That's odd, "ipv6" flag is enabled but I can't see it in /etc/make.conf or make.defaults…)

Anyone here using InitNG?

*yawn*

hmm you're right

any number of profiles might have added it, or package.use

any way I can cut and paste that line to a commandprompt???

Any number of profiles? Like what?

gpm will allow copy+paste using the mouse on the command line

my rt2500 card won't work, possibly because of my update to gentoo sources 2.6.22 (although switching back to the old kernel doesn't help, so it seems) and udev 114. arch x86. one cookie for he who is able to solve my issue

ipv6 is enabled in the default-linux profile

oes anybody have a opinion if its worth to upgrade to amd64 on your existing machine (x2-4400, 2GB ram, tri-head setup) or would it not make any difference except more problems?
D

which drivers have you tried?

Ah, ok. I'm (obviously) still not totally down with all the cascading profiles.

you'll need to have -ipv6 in your /etc/make.conf if you don't want it

there's more than one? i'm using net-wireless-rt2500
eh, net-wireless/rt2500

newday, what is the requirement?

or don't think you'll ever need ipv6 support

Well, I don't know if I really need it or not.

there is also rt2×00

is it just as complete?

Deesl, faster Xorg (2d only)

newday, you dont need amd64 for 2D xorg…..

it will replace rt2500 in the future. The question is when. In the mean time you can try it and hope it works

Deesl, things get slow sometimes if you run 3100×1680 so maybe 64bit would have any benefits?

k, thx

newday, AFAIK no…..
a giid graphics processor may however be of help

Deesl, thought so, so i wont waste my time, thx for your opinion

what is your graphics processor like?
s/giid/good/g

Deesl, its a onboard nvidia 6150 and a dual-head nvidia 7something

newday, I suspec that the lag may be related to something other than hardware

there's no harm in leaving ipv6 enabled as a USE flag

is there a packages.gentoo.org mirror?

for your information, the linux kernel defaults with ipv6 enabled

Deesl, i cant really complain, some apps get slower when i span them over 2 or 3 screens but other than that its quite fast

*ipv6 capabilities enabled

Ok, thanks. I'm just trying to have a bit of a clean-out of unnecessary use flags.

newday, are you using the nvidia drivers and Xorg which version?

it might be easier to just change profiles in a minimal one
*to a minimal one

Deesl, yes both, latest versions from ~x86. i cant use nv cause nv does not support dual-head cards.

…and add the USE flags you want from there

newday, well, that is odd. I have a 4 head setup on Xorg 7.2 + Nvidia + Compiz Fusion that works pretty nicely
and its a P3
all nvidia 6800 series cards

It'll be much the same as subtracting use flags from the desktop profile, won't it?

p3 1G to be precise….

Deesl, sounds sweet, i have to admit though i also use rotation which certainly kills some performance

there's a rt2×00-git package in sunrise, does that suffice (reading the gentoo wiki host guide, tells me to get something from cvs)

rotation? like?
i thought you were talking 2D newday

maybe, but why not get rt2×00 from the official tree?

gentoo wiki site says there's none
but… i'll take a look (not working from the gentoo machine atm)

Deesl, yes, i have 3 22 inch TFTs but they are oriented in Landscape mode (vertical)

why would you beleive them??? net-wireless/rt2×00 Use eix to search

k

maybe…

newday, oh ok…..
i thought the vertical is called potrait… but i may be wronf newday

Deesl, btw, dont you use xinerama? i thought xinerama kills xrandr kills compiz

newday, no i dont ise libXinerama……

Deesl, yeah sure, sorry, portrait, landscape is the normal orientation of course
Deesl, so you have 2 nvidia cards using twinview?

newday, yes.. 2 6800 XT
+ twinview of course….

Deesl, and twinview can put two nvidia cards together? i thought only the 2 heads of one card…

newday, both are dual head cards… and they are SLI compatible.. you hook them up over SLI and they behave like one 4 head card

Deesl, sweet, thats quite a setup you got there.

whats there about a quite a setup… this is made out of all throw away amterial
no one buys P3s these days…… this is a P3 1G with 512M RAM

rt2×00 is marked testing

i have only LiveCD, can i install it using stage1,2? or i must only install using stage3?

Deesl, how does your p3 board support sli then?

it seems to be a cvs or git version

I use a P3 w/256 MB of RAM at uni.

yes

and newday SLI is the feature of the graphics card… the system board has nothing to do with it

will it only install sources or build too?

it will build too

k

and the SLI works with full speed only in PCI cards… this is a AGP based setup though

thx, building right now, hope it helps

woot! and I fixed the massive break.
hmm… it it me of does KDE 3.5.7 have better font anti-analyzing?

i have only LiveCD, can i install it using stage1,2? or i must only install using stage3?

hi, I am having a problem after doing the expat+kde3.5.7 upgrade. It seems that the only styles I have left are 'CDE' 'Micro$oft Windows 9x' 'SGI' 'Motif' and 'Platinum'. Is this a common problem?

Blackieee, only stage3 are supported

heh! then why did i have to download 697MB LiveCD????
i remember that i did install from such LiveCD lng time ago, just forgot how do it again

I can enable rfkill for "button support", what's that?

you click the icon IIRC, but it often fails where manual install succeeds

i was planning to make a Gentoo install livecd like ubuntu.. anyone would like to provide any thoughts?

that line does not work to fix the libexpat error

maybe it is for if you have a button on your laptop to turn on/off your wireless.

hm, so like power management?

i think it's more a windows security measure.

k

no thoughts?? thats odd…

i just wonder what does the 697MB liveCD contain then? and can i somehow install working gentoo with network supported using only LiveCD?

eh, you mean like, a graphical installer
?

you mean like Sabayon? but with less incompatibility?

Typical, I try and install Gentoo when portage is broken

what's broken?

can someone tell me in n00bie-dumb speak what is going on with libexpat??

see topic

teach Enmity expat

expat-2.0.1 has been marked stable. However, it is not ABI compatible with earlier versions. To successfully upgrade and fix any reverse dependencies (along with several other issues), run: emerge =portage-2.1.2.9 && emerge -n portage-utils && emerge -qep world | grep –color=never -oFf (scanelf -plRBF '%F %n' | awk '/libexpat.so.0/{print $1}' | xargs qfile -qC | sort -u; echo -e "libtool\ncurl") | xargs emerge -1

did that
cut and pasted that command line - didn'

everything depending on expat must be recompiled

prompt

try revdep-rebuild then

i just wonder what does the 697MB liveCD contain then? and can i somehow install working gentoo with network supported using only LiveCD?

revdep-rebuild fails on gtk+ rebuild

the livecd contains gnome, and the gentoo installer. as for installing gentoo with a network, you can do it from any distro's livecd

how do I just install that library???

ten work on fixing that

has anyone else gotten that command in the topic to work??

damn it, i cant make ifplugd work

sigh

ebuild can't work, it's looking for an option which isn't used anymore in 2.6.22

is there an easy way? I am struggling here with bitchx even

http://rafb.net/p/UfM6Yr23.html

seen this topic? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-575655-highlight-expat.html

bug 185229

https://bugs.gentoo.org/185229 nor, P2, All, mike@ossmann.com-uberlord@gentoo.org, NEW, pending, net-wireless/rt2×00-9999 ebuild - updated to work with current CVS version

I've tried to chroot /mnt/gentoo after mounting but I get Exec format error.

put that in an overlay?

I broke that command up at the && - will that matter??

* with /bin/bash

yes

not really just make sure it completes succesfuly

but… how do I mask the one from the normal repositories, then?

it will prefer the one from the overlay

oh, ok
if I'd have two overlays, how'd I choose between them, then?

not sure

k, then I'll tyr to find out myself. thx for help, rebooting to 2.6.22

you can add a -r1 to the name of the ebuild you want to prefer

is there any way to figure out which file have a broken dependency on libexpat. I have reemerged mplayer but it still say missing file so I guess one of mplayers libraries are broken. Can I figure out which one?

I've tried to chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash after mounting but I get Exec format error. How can I fix this?

teach tholin expat

expat-2.0.1 has been marked stable. However, it is not ABI compatible with earlier versions. To successfully upgrade and fix any reverse dependencies (along with several other issues), run: emerge =portage-2.1.2.9 && emerge -n portage-utils && emerge -qep world | grep –color=never -oFf (scanelf -plRBF '%F %n' | awk '/libexpat.so.0/{print $1}' | xargs qfile -qC | sort -u; echo -e "libtool\ncurl") | xargs emerge -1

or use revdep-rebuild

that fixes every breakage caused by expat. I only want to fix mplayer for now

http://rafb.net/p/UsKukI20.html

can different distros share partitions? /home /var /usr thanks

then do the same thing but 'emerge -qep mplayer' instead of world

turn off distcc

hm, does that interfere with this? weird, shouldn't happen

/home probably /var maybe /usr no but if you have to ask don't try

thanks fristi, that means /etc is out of the question! /home & /var are the 2 most important for me thou! apache & tomcat all have there things in /var & i dont want to duplicate

probably home is the easist to share…

you could share your www dir if have no experience with tomcat

ok NightKhaos what about just /var/www

http://rafb.net/p/H7KfmZ85.html

thanks

if you want a system that you can run the same webserver from… which I'm guessing you do, share the apache conf.d directory and /var/www
but in all honestly, it would be easier just to buy or aquire (legally) and old box and place it on that… such as I did with http://nightkhaos.homelinux.org/

make a comment on that bug

thanks NightKhaos thats basically what i wanted, as well as subversion repositories which i normally make in /home & the mysql databases

it seems like an upstream problem though

who's accessing my server?
:P

maybe, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't comment on that bug

I still can't get that command line in bzbot to work

:p k

its me NightKhaos, nice site, the ccs, did you develop it all yourself?

hey, hey, calm down

pfft… nah… if I did I would fix the people with IE.
let me post a screenshot of how bad it looks.

ok

whats this ppl keep talking about? is latest portage broken?

teach siimo expat

I don't have mercy with people using IE, it's their damn own fault (yeah, I know.. that's something you can't tell to a customer or your boss, but for private use it is )

expat-2.0.1 has been marked stable. However, it is not ABI compatible with earlier versions. To successfully upgrade and fix any reverse dependencies (along with several other issues), run: emerge =portage-2.1.2.9 && emerge -n portage-utils && emerge -qep world | grep –color=never -oFf (scanelf -plRBF '%F %n' | awk '/libexpat.so.0/{print $1}' | xargs qfile -qC | sort -u; echo -e "libtool\ncurl") | xargs emerge -1

what should I do until this bug is fixed?

i read that but can i just wait for fixes rather than upgrading now with this hax? or will we have to do this anyway

play some wesnoth

http://nightkhaos.homelinux.org/index.php?op=ViewResource&blogId=1&resource=silly-ie.png

does that mean, "I have no idea how to get wireless networking working"?

what bug?

you will have to do it anyway. You could wait to do it at the same time with a gcc glibc upgrade and simply. Then the "emerge -e system; emerge -e world" that you do for gcc should fix this issue at the same time

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185229
last comment (mine)

I'm tring to chroot to gentoo but I'm having problems. chroot /mnt/gentoo/ /bin/bash gives me: cannot run command '/bin/bash: Exec format error. What should I do?

what arch are you on, and which stage tarball did you use?

what liveCD are you using?
I though the bash it attempted to use was dependent on the liveCD, not what is within the chroot enviroment.

tulcod there are a few options you can take

I'm listening

i see…

tulcod, is this the rt driver for the mac80211 stack or for the old one you are trying?

not sure exactly which, but i know that if you used the wrong tarball, you will get that error

I don't care what network stack I shuold use, as long as it works :p
mac80211 seems better though

how did you know i was accessing your site anyway NightKhaos?

I'm actually trying to repair my other istallation not install. I am using amd64 and 2007.0 min.

the box is under my desk, if someone accesses there is a lot of noise as it spins up the HDD that contains the website.

tulcod, from what i'm seeing this is the one for the older ieee80211 stack.

amd64 is the install i'm trying to repair. Might be arch commatiblity problems?

so I should disable mac80211 stack?
(it's enabled right now)

tulcod, basically you can fix the compile errors, (either by checking the code, or up/downgrading the ieee80211 stuff) or you can use the mac80211 driver

which mac80211 driver?

tulcod, i believe this one is ported to the other stack not 100% sure though

then make sure you've got a amd64 livecd

"other stack" being mac80211?
or the other "generic" stack?

o, i thought you had some program there what could check incomming IP's or something NightKhaos

I'll download one.

tulcod, mac80211, anyway lets just try and fix those compile errors
tulcod, i'll check it out

well, I guess I can fix those errors too, but that would cost me 2 weeks of browsing the code to understand it all, and I'm going back to school in 1 :p

hi all
xmms2 is not included in gentoo portage, will it be added?

no, it's outdated
(that's what they told me)

anyone here using netplug ? or ifplug ?

teach kexman ask

Just ask, don't ask to ask, don't ask who's familiar. Don't ask if anyone knows about it. Just ask the question, it's the easiest way to get people to answer

tulcod, xmms2, not xmms

will you add it?

NightKhaos, I'm new to gentoo

mzbot, teach Siavash xmms

xmms has been removed from portage, due to long standing bugs, and also the project has seen no new releases for a long time. Some alternatives include audacious and amarok. If you find ebuilds with hard dependancies on xmms, please file bugs against them, at http://bugs.gentoo.org/ . If you want to complain, please complain to gentoo's userrel, not to xmms devs. also see http://xrl.us/s7qo

oh, wait, confused lol
it's not in portage, nor in sunrise, so it won't be included soon, I guess

ifplug

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93583

tulcod, for the record i believe it's mac80211 now

friendly12345, i tryed it
its written that it should just work !
but it doenst
i would need some help with conf.d/rc , do i need something there ?

you mean, the llatest network stack?

mzbot, gentoo kexman_ ifplugd

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4&chap=6

tulcod, yeah and i know what changed too to cause this problem

friendly12345, i read a bunch of mans !
dont tell me what to read !
i read it

it's a pretty simple fix iirc

didnt understood it
or made it bad
damn it !

so you're fixing this within 10 minutes? woot

other stuff just uses to get itself working but not ifplug , no it has to be really complicated
friendly12345, can you tell me what do you set in conf.d/net ?

nothing

nothing ?

kexman_ nothing ifplugd related

do you add net.eth0 (cable) and net.eth1 (wifi) to default rc level ?

try not to give people attitude when they try to help you

i dont
but i am so GRR mad about this ifplugd

oh

seems a simple stuff
yet it drove me nuts
sorry

ifplugd just works if your network interfaces already auto-connect at boot

aaa
i added !net.* to rc
guess i should remove that and remove the net.eth* from default
right ?
or add net.eth* to boot level ?

net.eth* to default level usually

anyone using a Hauppauge pvr150 with kernel .22 ?

added both

could anyone check what how kdelibs-3.5.7 is keyworded?

and made RC_PLUG_SERVICES=""
rebooting

its ~x86 on my mirror but it should be x86

/etc/conf.d/net also correct?

friendly12345, guess so
gonna paste it to you in a bit
you said nothing related to ifplug needs to be added there
net.eth0 (cable) works on its own / net.eth1 (wifi) works on its own
but if i bring up both of em i am in trouble
since i get the same ip and use the same routes , here at home

kdelibs-3.5.7-r2 is x86

Hi, I'm just trying to switch from the unstable to the stable portage tree, and I've noticed that there are 5 versions of automake installed on my system… when I unmerge 4 of them they'll get reinstalled on next system update… What's the reason for this and is there a way to avoid it?

affirmative

rebooting

thanks i've synced twice today and it is still ~

crossing fingers

BigBrain, different packages need different versions of automake

hmm it seems to have brought up eth1 instead of eth0 now that i dont have it plugged
so now if i plug it in it should bring up net.eth0 and get net.eth1 down, right ??

automake versions are not compatible, that's why there are so many slots

would it cause system instability if I would remove them?
hm… k thx

definately.

hmmm

Is the Gentoo Wiki down ??????

hmm ? no ???

No… we just like… made it so that you have to type in an ubber sercert URL to get it.

yep.. they're upgrading the wiki or sth. like that

Damn. Thanks!

see #gentoo title

use google's cache feature if you need to access it

now rebooting with the cable plugged in

Phobos, use google caching

I would say yes…

friendly12345, okay
we'll see

BigBrain, they are only used during building, but can break emerge if they arent installed when a package need it, but that shouldnt happend

k

what's the usually behaviour if both interfaces are up?

aaargh
stupid stupid stupid

or can only one be up at a time

i plugged in the cable
and it does the same

anyone using a Hauppauge pvr150 with kernel .22 ?

backgrounding net.eth0 and starting up net.eth1
this is at reboot
friendly12345, my net doesnt really works with both up

and is it enough to remove the line "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~86" and doing a "emerge –update –deep world" to switch to stable portage tree again?

tulcod, the reason it's failing is because the mac80211 in the kernel you are running is to old,

huh?
wtf
it's just 2.6.22

yeah, too old by far

so how should I get wireless networking to work :p

is it possible to make dnsmasq use like *.machine too? so blah.blaah.cnupc.lan is same as cnupc.lan

you can patch the rt2×00 , or you can upgrade the mac80211 stuff/kernel

how would I do the latter?
and… can't I use ieee80211?

tulcod, i honestly don't know for that driver. upgrading is just placing more up to date code there
tulcod, you do know that by using the -9999 ebuild you want the absolute last available

well, I don't specifically care which driver I must use, but if ieee80211 is less work than a new stack, that'll be preferable for now
yes, -9999 gets the latest sources from cvs

tulcod, theres the problem you fetch the latest sources for the driver from cvs, but you don't use it against the latest kernel code

hm, so I should browse around to see which revision I should get?

you can just open rt2×00mac.c i think and change the function parametesr

hello

ok - I got that command line in the mzbot libexpat to run - but it didn't work - gtk+ still fails to compile
where do I go from here?