im trying to update my system and i keep getting an error about mDNSResponder blocking avahi but ive emerge -CDd

readData(char*, qint64)': text/q3textstream.cpp:319: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions…
I think that's the problem ^^

Nod-Ubuntu: your live CD is probably not amd64 architecture
Nod-Ubuntu: you are probably using the x86 architecture livecd

is there a way to emerge more then one thing at a time, aka tell it to chug and get x y and z while im out

The livecd I have is the Amd64 from the gentoo site.

at least, that's the *next*-most outstanding error/warning message

hmm

Nod-Ubuntu: ls /mnt/

that would suggest an amd64 problem

returns "cdrom gentoo livecd"

Conspiracy, "emerge packet1 packet2 packet3"

Nod-Ubuntu: or maybe the stage tarball isn't for amd64?

yeah, I was thinking that
why don't you drop by #gentoo-amd64 and see if anyone has any ideas
'cuz I'm out of ideas

i had a similar problem when i was trying to install on an amd64 machine using x86 live CD

thanks

Via the documentation for the Amd64 install I've done it verbatem, even the tarball3 install

Nod-Ubuntu: ls /mnt/gentoo

and I only have 32-bit boxen here … and a couple of 16-bitters in the basement

Nod-Ubuntu: you are installing using minimal cd or via another host?

try running that bash without chroot?

minimal cd

good choice

The output from ls /mnt/gentoo is about 15 directories and 2 files.

/mnt/gentoo/bin/bash

thanks gatz

see if it executes in the CD environment

Nod-Ubuntu: did you mout /proc and /dev?

Yes, via Code#4 on the page.
Mount proc and dev
One sec, I CDed to /bin/ and typed Bash and it seems to have done something…
uOne sec, I CDed to /bin/ and typed Bash and it seems to have done something…/u

try /mnt/gentoo/bin/bash
see if that words
*works

heh

Nod-Ubuntu: what's happening?

if cd-ing somewhere changes what executables do, then you have a major security flaw

Nothing.

it gives you a shell again? if so, it worked

No, I didn't get a new shell.

oh

I can CD to /bin/ and type 'bash' and I hear the hdd speed up as if executing something, but thats it.
Any bash commands I can test to see if its worked?

Nod-Ubuntu: did you check the cd's md5sum?
s/cd/iso

Nod-Ubuntu: /bin/bash –version

version 3.1.17(1)-release (x86-64-blahblahblah

Weird. Someone keeps trying to break into my Gentoo box on SSH. Wonder why? I also want to know this. What damage can a user who's only added to the users group do by an rm -rf /?

.. /mnt/gentoo/bin/bash –version

Keith-BlindUser: probably just your standard daily ssh attacks
Keith-BlindUser: stop using passwords and switch to pubkey-only ssh

Keith-BlindUser: he would end up deleting his home directory and probably some files in /tmp..?

bash: (cannot execute binary file)

Ah
But nothing else, no other users tings etc?

Nod-Ubuntu: try rebooting from the CD

Keith-BlindUser: that user can nuke everything in /tmp maybe /var/tmp and his $HOME. Not much else.

Nod-Ubuntu: something has seriously gone wrong

Someone once suggested I password -l root and setup sudo.
Ermm passwd -l

Well hang on.. I can cd to the /bin/ dir and bash–version from there.

Keith-BlindUser: well, you shouldn't login as root, ever.

Nod-Ubuntu: i would do what auli just suggested

Keith-BlindUser: you can su or sudo, but never log in.

Ah

yup always use sudo

Is there a way to reverse the lock on an account like that? Or is that perament.
Err permanent.

Is it possible I just typoed when mounting something - So essentially I could remount the stuff?

Nod-Ubuntu: you meant, you can cd /usr/gentoo/bin and #bash –version?

Keith-BlindUser: sure, you can always "hack" your own root shell using the liveCD if all else fails

Nod-Ubuntu: yes, it is possible

No I can cd /mnt/gentoo/bin/ type bash –version

a local machine is *never* secure.

problem disappeared with a new gcc or maybe some more kde lib

yay

Nod-Ubuntu: it uses /bin/bash not /mnt/gentoo/bin/bash

Nod-Ubuntu: it doesn't matter what your current directory is
Nod-Ubuntu: you'll be looking at what's in the $PATH variable
more accurately you'll be looking at hashed binaries, but ignore this comment

How does one show mounts?

Nod-Ubuntu: mount

Ahh simple :-)

Is there a global file for bash? I'm trying to set up a way (due) to the fact I regularly am having to recreate roots home dir, how to get the login prompt globablly for root etc to show root@hostname?

Keith-BlindUser: heh, what's happening to /root ?

Right now, it only shows the hostname of the box with root. All other users added isntantly get "Directory@blahablah"

thanks for lookin'

np

you can put it in the skeleton directory

Well the mounts dont have typos.

Nod-Ubuntu: the outputs

/etc/skel
i think it's probably meant for that

pastebin it, else you will get kick

Keith-BlindUser: /etc/bash/*
Keith-BlindUser: sounds like you want the users, including root, set up the same

What line would I have to change then?

Provide syntax for pastebin?

Keith-BlindUser: but it's really not necessary if you use sudo

Well

Keith-BlindUser: do you have the default gentoo /etc/bash/bashrc ?

Nod-Ubuntu:sorry, lol forget that youare in console

No problem.

i don't know how to but someone can

Keith-BlindUser: who are you giving shells to?
Keith-BlindUser: isn't this just a personal web host machine?

Co owners on the box

Can someone provide me the syntax and necessary install to utilize pastebin while in gentoo terminal?

looks good, thx

And then there are thousands of editional users in /home.

roland

this box is huge. Servs hundreds of webpages, runs mail, IRC, ftp, rsync, … and is extremely chriticle. What I'm saying is this. If one remote attack in wich someone does figure out my root pw occurs, then…

Keith-BlindUser: well, the PS1 variable displays what you want, but in the default gentoo bashrc it should do that anyway.

Ah
Well

Nod-Ubuntu: you can pm me the output of *mount* command

Why is it that when I login as root, it only shows me the hostname of the box?

Keith-BlindUser: root's ~/.bashrc is different?

Okay. It'll take a second

It's failing to display the current working directory in the bash prompt. It just shows something like KeithNet#. Rather then "root@blahblah"

no worry

i'm trying to update my system and i keep getting an error about mDNSResponder blocking avahi, but i've emerge -CD'd both of them and equery belongs is not returning a result for either. revdep-rebuild doesn't seem to fix it… any idea how to resolve this conflict?

x

you can talk.

emerge -C mDNSResponder?

Keith-BlindUser: echo "$PS1"

then try to emerge avahi

nah. I rather idle

— Couldn't find 'mDNSResponder' to unmerge.
i've already emerge -CD'd both packages
(when -C didn't work, i emerge'd both individually and added -CD)

heh, emerging a package to unmerge it — that's novel

neither is currently installed now

I've resorted to doing that too. heh

wasn't sure what else to try, heh

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-567782-highlight-mdnsresponder+blocking+avahi.html
try that!

Keith-BlindUser: echo "$PS1"

Where will that go?

Keith-BlindUser: echo it for root and user, and see if it's different

into /etc/bash? heh

33 thanks

Hold

np
lol

Were you able to see PM?

Yep. Totally different.

Not sure if I needed to put . infront of /

It's not the same for root at all.

Keith-BlindUser: ok, where does it get set for root?
Keith-BlindUser: /etc/bash/*, /etc/skel/*, or /root/.bash* ?

Well
Not sure. All I know is, that output was…well..here. I got this.
Oh
You'll also see what I want to modify.

Nod-Ubuntu: i think you need to register
:|

As far as the promp for the system on login of root (but I still refuse to make the change in /root, as interesting thigns occur with that directory..:P

You are not getting my PM are you?

nope
nothing
but i pm you

I saw

Keith-BlindUser: it doesn't matter what you show me, you're still gonna have to fix it… so you need to know where it's getting set :P

Here. \[33[01;31m\]\h\[33[01;34m\] \W \$\[33[00m\]
KeithNet ~ #
See?
Look at the bottem

For the sake of saving time, wanna open another connection to another server?

It old you it didn't show root@blahblah.

Nod-Ubuntu: try to put something infront of the output

Keith-BlindUser: yes, you're right, it did not.

Just sent you 3 pms
Regular text, no /

Nod-Ubuntu: you need to register to send pms unless cd_rom turns off his +6 mode

So
What would you have to change so that hte prompt showed this? Globally, if possible. Root@KeithNet~#.

Nod-Ubuntu:i see none
how can i turn of my +6?

I'll make a paste of what I typed.
http://pastebin.com/d137725f
Thats what 'mount' outputs

whats everyones favorite pdf viewer?

anyone know of the best postfix guide for gentoo that uses mysql?

Nod-Ubuntu: try to umount /proc and /udev
and chroot again

okay

hello

but i doubt that, since they are in used
lol

i installed abiword.
and its menus don't display in hungarian, but in english
the locale is set to "hu_HU.UTF-8"
what may be the problem?

Ya, I got the 'already mounted' error

(spellchencking works fine in hungarian)

Nod-Ubuntu: how about chroot?

Same error. chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash' : Exec format error

Nod-Ubuntu: esec format error

faq hungarian

hmm

No such faq

lol
nice try

I know 100% that my cd is good, because I got all the way to step 10 on my desktop.

other stuff works fine

Same cd, different computer. Same Processor type. Amd64

and it worked fine on my other machine (i don't have acces to now)

I don't know

Nod-Ubuntu: give me a sec

for example, gnumeric is fine

Okie doke

np. thx anyway

I'll be getting dinner in a bit so if you need more time

nah, it's cool
plus i found some info

Same here

bad news
cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error", this usually indicates that the livecd environment is not compatible with that of the installed system.

I hope its not what I think you're gonna say.
Cause I just found out a 'reason why' this error might be happening.

Nod-Ubuntu: check your stage3 stuff cause as you can read from the thing
Nod-Ubuntu :go on

Oh, well the wiki hosting is stating that my cd is possibly x86 and my architecture'processor' is 64bit. Which shouldn't make sense cause….
This EXACT cd worked on my Amd64Bit 3200+ Desktop.

the livecd has to be the same arch as the stage3 you installed

And my laptop is an HP Pavillion dv8000 Amd64Bit Turion
Ah, well the stage three was the ia64.

Nod-Ubuntu: lol, take some heat

Isn't that a = amd?

out

ia64 is some tomcat server hosting archticeture, you want amd64

:O

Doh

?

And redownload the one that specifically says Amd64?

or x86_64 how its called sometimes as well

then i have no idea how could he installed sucessfully on other machine

Okay, I'm on ibiblio's distro mirrior
I want the x86/ directory?

hi to all

Nod-Ubuntu: what is url?
the url*

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/

haha kdebase now fails
This is really fun
I hope this isn't the motif of this system

i'm having a problem when i try to start xdm (new gentoo installation)

what is the error?

i get the following error
http://pastebin.ca/620139

x86/2007.0/stages/ stage3-x86-2007.0.tar.bz2 Its 103M

Nod-Ubuntu: give me few sec
Nod-Ubuntu: that is not for 64bits os

no prob…take your time
thanks

processor*
dont thanks me yet!

P4 2,4

Oh wow, I thought all mirror sites had the amd64.
I honestly dont know the difference between amd64 and x86 and x86_64 etc…
Also, i383 and i686 confuse me too.

okay, can someone explain to me what is the difference between amd64 and ia64?

hi, when i start X as a user, there's a process shown in htop owned by root called X :0 -nolisten tcp -br -auth blah blah. What is that?

cause i can see 2 in handbooks

well amd64 is made by amd and ia64 is made by intel
:P

thanks Sulis
well, you could have told Nod-Ubuntu that

ia64 != x86-64

you got an ati graphic cad?

ia64 is a separate instruction set used by itaniums
for regular 64-bit intel cpus, the amd64 profile is what you need

Nod-Ubuntu: you used wrong profile

not quite, intel produces amd64-compatible stuff :-)

oh jeez
so what now?

yes…ati radeon 9000

Does that mean that : http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/ x86/2007.0/stages/stage3-x86-2007.0.tar.bz2 : is the stage3 I need for an Amd64 Turion?

everything you would buy is amd64, the ia64 start around 20k$

old but still working

nope

$20k damn

Nod-Ubuntu: no, that won't give you any of the 64bit operations

so you got one and did you install the driver?

Okay, So I gotta find the exact amd64…2007…tar.bz2?

i have no experience with ati so i let someone handle you, sorry

ok

Nod-Ubuntu: you can safely say so, i assume

Nod-Ubuntu: for my amd64 i went with x86_64

does anyone know about ati cards?
i want some help

which Mirror site did you use? :-)

it seems that you have ati driver install without kernel source

Just to rule out differences between mirrors

what do you mean?

can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
see above ^

does irssi have a quick way to select different chat channels

yes…wait

Nod-Ubuntu: uh, i can't remember, probably mirror.kent.ac.uk

http://pastebin.ca/620146

Okay, I'm going to use GeorgiaTech - bbl

Nod-Ubuntu: but if that works well for you i don't know

Gonna get dinner while it downloads

kk

okay, i just went for a pee and realise that i read somewhere sometime ago, itantium is pure 64bit
2004 is quiet old
sorry

what do you mean 2004?

someone, can i use *nv* for ati graphic card?
i read that from top of your xorg.conf file
but i just realised that it's not it
, sillly me
you can try changing "fglrx" to "nv"
you are being lazy today
:p

nv is for nvidia cards i think

yeah, hell
i can't remember the other name for genenric driver
give me few secs

ok

no, I spent quite a lot of energy moving myself 300m up, now I'm recharging :-)

ah, that's forgivable

a have also tried "radeon" and "ati" but i had problems too
i get errors when i type startx

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
take a look at the doc akis

i have read it…i'm trying to solve this problem for 3 days till now

pastebin your /etc/make.conf

give me a minute

okay
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-570341-highlight-fglrx+matching.html

my make.conf file
http://pastebin.ca/620463

Hm i have an issue with 2.6.21 .. i upgrade from .19 and now my network isnt working, its supposed to use the forcedeth module, but it doesnt create any eth0 device

akis,
what ati card you got again?

ati radeon 9000

how does this error get into a package that's even in ~ ???

cd_rom i forgot to tell you that i cannot emerge x11-drm (as it is said in the URL you gave me before)

/var/tmp/portage/net-im/naim-modules-0.0.11.7.2-r1/distdir/naim-modules-0.0.11.7.2-2004-07-20-0047.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file.

anyone from south africa here ?

I think someone said something about having to use the x11 drivers because ati dosen't support them any more..

ebuild error

hi, is there any way to unmask a package besides package.keywords?

akis:http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers

package.unmask

how is it masked?

like said, fglrx / ati-drivers doesn't support that card anymore. you need VIDEO_CARDS="radeon", and driver "radeon" in xorg.conf. might as well remove ati-drivers now, emerge -C ati-drivers, or at least you need to switch back to mesa, xorg-x11 opengl by "eselect opengl set xorg-x11"

can a non-authoritative dns name server replicate zone or record information about a specific domain?

jeez, you could have told him earlier

I did, he refused to listen.

kc8pxy: (masked by: package.mask) i put it in package.keywords like i do every time but its not workng

i'll do it now

if it's masked by package.mask you need to unmask it in package.unmask

, i couldnt see r900 anywhere in that gentoo ati faq so i thought he needed lagency driver or seomthing

then put it in /etc/portage/package.unmask but it could be really unstable

you told me to unmerge the ati-drivers
i don't need them?

correct

bomarrow1: okay, thanks guys

no problem

Is there anything wrong with running I386 code on an Amd64 box?

instead you need xf86-video-ati which gets installed by VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" when you emerge xorg-server.

no one knows?

be careful when unmasking things not masked by keyword. they usually have a VERY good reason for masking that way.

it references a bug… going to check it out now

you mean that i have to type in konsole VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" emerge xorg-server???

set it in make.conf

make.conf..

put it in make.conf

you could do it in the console but its not very clean

i'll do it right now

Hi how to autostart pppoe and add it as default route.

do i have to re-emerge xorg?

yup

simplest way, add it to local.

re-emerge or unmerge and emerge again? (i don't know if there is a difference)
i also have unmerged ati-drivers as cd_rom told me before

emerge -1 xorg-server

thx i will try it late.

keep im mind, that the simple, brute force way. there may be a better, more finese way to do it.

i did tell you to unmerge ati driver?
follow what drc told you
im clueless about your ati card

how can I find what is pulling in a package in an emerge if it causes the creation of the dep graph to fail?

drac*

from what you told me before i understand that ("might as well remove ati-drivers now")
maybe i did not get it
sorry

no worry

hi guys would someone be able to talk me through setting up wpa_supplicant, im getting some errors at the moment

so, do i have to emerge ati-drivers again
???

what errors?

lol, what drac told you?

i have not had to use supplicant so far.

How do I set master mode in /etc/conf.d/net for my interface?

i'm lost guys…sorry

emerge xf86-video-ati, emerge -C ati-drivers, set VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" to make.conf, set driver "radeon" to xorg.conf, set USE="dri" to make.conf, eselect opengl set xorg-x11, run xorgconfig
….

i there yougo

ok
sorry for asking one more time…i don't need ati-drivers at all????

if i intend to buy a new graphics-card, which one would you recommend for a painless installation with 3d-support?

How do I set master mode in /etc/conf.d/net for my interface?

rc-update add net.eth1 default ?
for example

no I mean the mode. you can chose rom managed or master

hi, I'm having problems with famd using almost 100% cpu, from a google search it looks like this is a 5 y.o. problem, any solution for it (besides stopping and wiping out fam)?

ah sorry [1]d3c don't know :/

axez00, ok

i think ive found the problem, wpa_supplicant says my driver doesnt support WPA

yeah, you don't need them at all. you'll get everything from open source driver w/ that card.

How do I remove the old stage3?

ok

even 3d acc drac?

yep, including aiglx support.

wow, cool

figured it out. mode_interface="Master"

has anyone here got a dlink DWL-520+ pci card? because thats the model im having trouble

Can anyone tell me, when I install the correct stage3 tarball, will it overwrite the old one, or do I need to manually remove the old one?

I am running gentoo with default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop profile, 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 and NO_HZ. I am trying to make may quickcam work (qc-usb-0.6.6), but it does not create the /dev/video0 node. I don't see any messages on dmesg either. Any ideas on where should I start? Thanks.

Nod-Ubuntu: dont you do a mkfs before you d/l and unpack the stage3?

Lemme see what my instructions made me do.

check that your usb port is working

No, I'm inside /mnt/gentoo and then I just execute Links.

310 Philips PCVC730K WebCam

I'm going 100% by the handbook documentation

Nod-Ubuntu: then you are fine

Awesome, thanks yngwin

it tells you to make a new filesystem, so

and no output from dmesg?
maybe you'll have to perform a modprobe first?

There seems to be some problem with my filesystem. During boot it says "Filesystem is NOT clean!", how do I di a FS check?

No. I tried to connect an USB HD, got a lot of timeout messages, and now I dont have any printk (it seems). But the camera was not working even before the HD.

Good morning #gentoo.

there is a fstab flag, or you can do it manually via a liveCD.
Bot?

fstab flag? im kindda gentoo rookie

not a bot. Just a greeting before I ask a little Q.

set pass to 1.

if my essid is called hello-hello, how do I set my WEP key in /etc/conf.d/net? key_hello-hello="secret" doesn't work because the essid contains "-"

[1]d3c: try wpa_supplicant.

[1]d3c, no chance of using wpa?

change the - to and underscore _

Maybe I will reboot to see if I get printk again.

[1]d3c: change the - to and underscore _

the difference doesn't matter?

take a read of wireless.example

[1]d3c: wait, is your key ASCII or HEX?

NightKhaos, ASCII

[1]d3c: then best option is to change your key.

I will be back in a few minutes.

that isn't possible unfortunately

[1]d3c: althrough if you are gonna use an ASCII key, I highly recommend upgrading to WPA.
[1]d3c: reason being?

yes, but that isn't an option. using underscore instead doesn't work either
reason being that I don't control it and I'm not home

Ahh… well if you install WPA_Supplicant you should have more luck with ASCII WEP keys containing a hyphen. And if ya can, talk to the system adminstrator. WEP isn't as secure as people think, (unless they are using WDS then I feel their pain)

he knows but thank you

[1]d3c: WPA tends to be better at handeling WEP than wireless tools. Not to mention it also supports WPA.

i did what you told me but i still get errors
http://pastebin.ca/620499

NightKhaos, ok. thx. I have to run now. bye

One of the AP I can connect to here is called Job-Family all I do is change the hyphen to underscore it is works

mistik1, ok. maybe something else is borked then

I notice this warning: #
)

and what do you think???
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] (rev

is there a PCI address defined in xorg.conf for the GPU?

let me see
yes there is one, but it is commented (BusID "PCI:0:10:0")

I am back.

decomment it.

do i have to change anything or just uncomment it?
i removed the #, saved the file and i still get the same error

alright, change the address to the same as what lspci gives ya.

if i intend to buy a new graphics-card, which one would you recommend for a painless installation (oss-driver) and with dri-support?

don't delete comment!
comment out the old one and add a new line with the PCI address from lspci.

buy nvidia.

the same error again…
)

that's the wrong busid

akis, try xorgcfg instead

X -scanbus maybe?

, all that matters is it finds something from

Hello all

if it's not starting.. that's NOT the reason..

i used xorgcfg and i still get errors
http://pastebin.ca/620511

can you run 'aticonfig'?

i see something strange….it says "Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new"

I have vsftpd running if I merge selinux-ftpd(SELinux policy for ftp daemons) will they work together?

usbcore: registered new interface driver quickcam

put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but to test that one you would 'X -config /root/xorg.conf.new'

Is there an application launcher dialogue for nome?
Gnome*

i copied the file to /etc/X11

rakeyry, alt + f2

what do i have to do now?

I'm using a laptop atm, and is installing gentoo, I currently is not sure how to partionate properly, should I partionate the sd stuff or?
or is the hardrive always hda?
harddrive*

it seems that the /root/xorg.conf.new is the file that my pc looks at
how can i change this path to /etc/X11 ???

if your HDD is SCSI, SATA or PATA or USB it will be sda

" that it sees and

SCSI is the usual for laptops, right?

Did you give up?

have you seen the error i get?

which error. there are plenty.

???

I am not even going to justify that with an reply.
jfwi! please.

http://pastebin.ca/620511

Okay, the correct stage3 is unzipping now. Portage shouldn't need a reinstall right?

Ok I'm having an issue compiling networkmanager. The build log is located here: http://pastebin.ca/620531
Anyone have any idea?

how do i emerge media-sound/amarok-1.4.9999-r1 , it doesn't have any keywords so emerge wont let me unmask it

what architecture?

media-sound/amarkok **

why?
kerframil, edge s/amarkok/amarok/

right

the9a3eedi, arch x86 , kerframil the ebuild it self is absent of keywords, NightKhaos i need amarok to work better im hoping the svn will

use **

kerframil, in the /etc/portage/package.keywords?

yes

better than?

actually.. I got the same problem .. I can't seem to install networkmanager.. not sure if it's teh same error message, but I'm using amd64 in any case

if you are having problem with music output, the problem is XINE, not amarok. And if you're having problems with a slow GUI, the problem will be that you're not using KDE (are you using KDE) or QT.

I think this problem has to do with the code itself.. as it is a compilation-time error. maybe you would have to wait for a bit till this is fixed?

NightKhaos, problem actualy comes from it having dificulty with my live mounts, (samba share, for a music folder mounted to my /home/user/music

file a bug

well of course, you're basicly trying to stream music.

NightKhaos, windows can do it flawlessly , without all this excissive hanging and waiting

in addition you might try with "-j1"

are you using smbfs or cifs? if smbfs, then you make sure you've tried with cifs.

what is the connectively like normally for the share, take a large file (about a GB) and copy to or from, what does it copy at?

just exchange smbfs for cifs and leave the sting in my fstab the same?

smbfs should be considered obsolete for most purposes.
probably. let's see the current line.

that is because Windows doesn't cache the song in swap before it plays it.

NightKhaos, i can push a gig every minute
kerframil, //10.10.10.3/public /home/edge/music smbfs username=,password=,uid=1000,umask=000,users 0 0

Hello all is there a way top not alow ftp logins to root and another user account?

yes, the same arguments will work for cifs but why no arguments for the username/password parameters? that doesn't make sense.

I wonder if there is an option for cifs to cache network shares?

NightKhaos, when i select a track , poor amarok hangs for about 10 - 15 seconds, the song will be playing at the instant i click it, but amarok stops responding , and then snaps to , displays that playing track and starts allowing me to skip to the next track or stop that one

ssh, i.e. sftp, we allowroot disabled.

kerframil, its my local smb share, its like 10 ft from me
kerframil, my router protects that box with special rules

have you tried mpd?

NightKhaos, i don't know what mpd is

GFGI.

that still doesn't explain it. when you connect to a cifs/smb share you provide credentials. using username/password with no arguments doesn't make any sense. you may as well drop them.

NightKhaos, I dont fully understand I have a ftp server set up and I dont want logins to my user account as well as root is there a way to block them out?

hook some big specks up to the share server and connect to the mpd via one of the clients, works better than a samba share.
what are you using?

in any case, I digress. switch to CIFS as soon as you can.

NightKhaos, vsftpd

okay.
sorry not very good with vsftpd.

I have all files hidden and all logins are chrooted but I want to go extreme with it NightKhaos

(Very Small File Transfer Protocol Daemon?)

very secure.

very secure ft damen NightKhaos

Gotta. Well like I said, I'm not very good with vsftpd. I use ssh and sftp.

NightKhaos, I have it setup for uploads only
you cant read anything once you login

is there a way to move an emerge to a screen without stopping it?

no

kerframil, thanks

IAmWill_, no, processes are attached to the terminal running them

ctl+c (to kill) start screen and emerge –resume iirc

tdr, whats goin on

NightKhaos, with this mpd , the music plays off the smb server, and u just control what it plays from a different location, am i undering it correctly?

edge doesn't have to be over samba

bingo.

When I boot I see "no 8bpp quiet picture available" and my computer boots without any splash screen. Here is my grub.conf, do you see what is preventing gensplash from working? http://pastebin.ca/620563

in fact it would be idle to setup an stfp (ssh) account so that you can modify the music collection and close the smbfs share.
s/idle/idea
there are many clients, from CLI to GUI.
google edge musicplayerd

http://www.ibizaclublife.com/musicplayerd.php

hey all

hmm close enough… there is an offical site for MPD. musicpd.org I think
edge musicpd
google edge musicpd

http://www.musicpd.org/

hello rukie

NightKhaos, http://www.musicpd.org

I know.

i'm having a problem with a kernel panic on my system :-( I know its something I need in the kernel, but I have no idea what :-\

I told mzbot the wrong keyword for I'm feeling Lucky.

I'm booting off a promise IDE (pci) controller

filesystem support?

reiserfs is enabled, along with ext2
I'm running ext2, swap, reiserfs

fstab correct?

mmm I m ight have missed that :-D
I reformated the drive and copied over config files heh

check it first before trying the kernel again.

well, thank you very much NightKhaos, I'll check that as soon as my *cough* winxp *cough* install finishes….

heh

No problem I will just write a 200 page report in Word while I wait *cough* CrossOver Office *cough* for you to get back.

lol
well, I can understand winxp for games, but who needs msoffice

http://nightkhaos.homelinux.org/index.php?op=ViewResource&blogId=1&resource=windowsapps.png

do you guys think i should use irssi or xchat?

well, I do agree ms has a far superior spell checker..

depends, do you want it to be a GUI or CLI? Will you run it on an external java server hosting and access via ssh and screen?

for every language?

the issue of smbfs vs cifs seems to come up quite often so I've just written a little faq.

alright, for english.

teach edge smbfs

Don't use the SMBFS client in the Linux kernel. Use CIFS! It supports shares hosted by Windows 2000 (or greater) and Samba. It is actively maintained upstream, more reliable, more performant and supports features such as unicode, hardlinks, dfs, distributed caching and native TCP names (rather than RFC1001/NetBIOS names), not to mention Unix extensions. For more info: http://linux-cifs.samba.org/

NightKhaos, i prefer a gui and i don't need access through ssh

xchat2

hmmm, okay then thanks

what about chatzilla with firefox?

die.

lol

what's chatzilla? i think i'm gonna go google that

400mb ram to run an IRC client yeehaa

LOL

kerframil, its a bit quicker then smbfs, it loaded them without much hesitation, but its not perfect, i'll live w/ it

naw, stick to xchat2 poopoo

a resource hog.

its the most superior irc client available on gentoo :-p

hmm, I was expecting some improvement but it's somewhat disappointing that the problem hasn't been alleviated.

it runs under Firefox.

guys, IRC is only text, irssi is the only way to go

hahaha it looks pretty neat to tell you the truth

I used to run gentoo on a 500mhz machine, and now I have it on a 3.2ghz 64bit machine with 2gig mem, and holy cow what took 5 minutes takes 30 seconds..

Wanna bet?

Is it safe to clear out /var/temp? I noticed I have a kernel in there a a huge portage directory

mistik1, not 400 MB :P
it's about 80 MB here
maybe less

kerframil, it hangs pretty bad like if i pick a track ,and after a few moments realize i don't like it i can't skip it for another , 5 seconds, bc its hung thinking about somthing

and it's a browser and email client too

How long has it been running

mistik1, long enough

/var/tmp or /var/temp ?

let me get my screenshot.

Keep it on a few days

use latest trunk, less or none leaks

/var/tmp

mistik1, yes, Gecko 1.8 has memory leaks

I do not have a temp

howdy y'aal

so, how well does SLI technology work on *nix?

yes in a way that you dont need those data later again

Interesting. I have a vague recollection of someone complaining about the same thing. I wonder if the problem is most apparent with amarok only?

but no .. if something (like emerge) is currently running and using stuff in it

I ran out of /var partition space in the middle of emerging oOo

emerging openoffice?

yes

lol, install the bin :-p

openoffice takes like 5GB of temporary space

http://nightkhaos.homelinux.org/index.php?op=ViewResource&blogId=1&resource=just-right.png ChatZilla still look better than Xchat?

yeah clean that dir … you can temporary set a different tmp dir for portage

I heard 4GB…

it changes, (shrug)

thats a nice setup NightKhaos

/var/tmp/portage/app-office/openoffice-2.2.1 got real big…. I am using lvm2, I can make /var larger
it is 2 GB now

like "PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/home/tmp emerge …." if theres enough space in home

I try.

thats not a standard theme in KDE is it?

hey, I'm getting the following oops rather often on my system. I just updated to 2.6.22. Can someone help me figure out the cause? http://rafb.net/p/3v5SYK10.html

KDE 4.0 Icons on KDE 3.5, and yes, the menu is generally at the bottom.
I also use Dolphin.

ah, you dont' have compiz/beryl do you?
er, Dolphin?

Of course.
KDE 4 file manager

oh
whats the deal with beryl/compiz now? Are they still merging or what?

konqueror got konquered?

talk to Xeffects.
basicly yeah, it is the web broswer still.

rukie, yeah compiz-fuzion

any hardware recommendations for a mythtv setup?

fairly quick. Hmm… Apple MiniMac?
that is if ya can afford one, what are ya trying to run it on?

that's different than the Mac mini? boy, that's confusing…

upgrade to 22-r1 and file a bug if you get it again

shuddup. I said it wrong. :P

Please do not advertise, post off-topic or send CTCP's to the channel

no, haha, no sarcasm-

erm, I am using 22-r1. Will file bug…

Hi!

I was thinking of just adding a PVR-tuner or whatever to my gentoo desktop

specs, and what does it run generally?

if I have -march=686 and I want to change it to -march=athlon, will I need to rebuild the whole system?

hi, njan, I already banned him here

yep, empty-tree.

kojiro, alrighty.

wait no sorry. me tired. march is fine.

Since my last world-update I have no sound and many errors with missing symbols in the snd-modules. Could there be a problem with the updated linux-headers? (kernel 2.6.19, linux-headers 2.6.21)

686==athlon NightKhaos?

no, but it will only affect things you recompile

revdep-rebuild?

Tolds me everything is okay.

but not make newly compiled things incompat w/ current stuff? NightKhaos

696 != athlon, if you want to be SAFE, empty tree, but you don't have to.

do you use external alsa?

No, normal build in

FX64 dual 2900Mhz, 4Gb, 2 GeForce 7900GTs, 3 400Gb drives, 2 in raid1 with a hot spare
normally runs everything I need it to for a desktop

make sure you run the process under nice and I think you'll be fine.

paste these errors please

okay, thx

the currently installed things wont use the athlon specific stuff, but the new stuff will, and that wont cause issues other than possible performance, do I have it right NightKhaos?

"known symbol snd_pcm_lib_preallocate_pages_for_all" and several ones like "snd_ens1370: Unknown symbol snd_card_proc_new"
Looks like he complains every symbol in every sound-module :-(

It is my understanding that it won't affect much, but if it affects anything, you get a break, that revdep-rebuild won't fix, do an empty tree world.
if you have a weekend when you're going away, just set it to do a world empty tree install.
in fact… have you heard of portage-niceness?
set that to 19 and knock one of your J setting and let it run, it'll take a few days but it is a good idea.

you didn't upgrade your kernel? what version is it?

so empty-tree is a command?, yeah deffinitely 24hr+ , no I have never head of portage-niceness

I mean emerge -e world

just -e, not -euDN?

make.conf.example… it's just PORTAGE_NICENESS="n" basicly. Based upon nice (rftm on that).

No, I didn't upgrade it, it is 2.6.19

-e == -euDN

rtfm cool, I dont mind being told that . thanks

mirrorselect has been running for over 40 minutes and it doesn't seem to wanna finish… My internet is working. From the same PC I can ping www.gentoo.org no problem. Any ideas on how to make mirrorselect finish faster?

Nod-Ubuntu: interactive mode?

Not sure what that means.

Nod-Ubuntu: it means you set the mirrors yourself… the -i flag.

this is an Athlon800 w/ 256MB so I will be leaving it alone for a while…lol (fortunately it is a teritary box and I will not have down time)

Oh

upgrading to a newer kernel version might help, but I'm not sure. File a bug either way.

if you have nice set to 19, you can still basicly use it.

"leaving it alone while it remakes itself" I meant

in fact I better change it to 19 on my server.

I re-ran the mirror command just now and I got. "Downloading a list of mirrors…." "Stripping hosts that only support IPv6" "cannot open tty-output"
Any idea if that 'cannot open tty-output' is going to cause issues?

Nod-Ubuntu: how are you accessing it?

LiveCD Minimal Terminal

hi every1

Okay, I'll try it, thanks for your help!

would it be faster to just reinstall? it is a project box, not an important one to my daily use NightKhaos

when i try to install ut2003 with emerge, i'm asked about the first cd. i mount it, but emerge says, it doesn't find the directory /media/cdrom/System. when i look in /media/cdrom if find the dir named "system" with a lowercase "s". what did i do wrong?

it has been emerging kvirc for 1.5hrs or more, as an example of it's building "speed" lol

no. If you reinstall you'll have to install all the packages again anyway. If you do it under nice -n 19 then you can still use the box while it fixes itself, if you reinstalled, you couldn't.

reinstalling is always slower than emerge -e world

ok, thanks

not always. just usually.

how could it not be?

explained in comments in make.conf.example too last i checked

already installed machine that hasn't been updated in 2 years. newly installed box that used the wrong stage tarball.

not much we can do to cover that today

well either option is is going to be an exercise in slowness? it is a 8 yr old sys with little ram after all hehe
for get ? not a question

in both those situations, installing from scratch is gonna be faster

?

how could I NOT have curl installed?

I dont care about any config or data on sys, so if wiping and starting over is faster I am fine with that Skunky

nothing depending on it? equery d curl (emerge gentoolkit first), or maybe just emerge curl

I mean I forgot about it.
it should be in world.
althrough… my server
it doesn't have curl! *sniff*

when i try to install ut2003 with emerge, i'm asked about the first cd. i mount it, but emerge says, it doesn't find the directory /media/cdrom/System. when i look in /media/cdrom if find the dir named "system" with a lowercase "s". what did i do wrong?

ebuild bug?

case 1: "emerge -e world" might fail a lot, but it will still be faster you really only need to get system up to date, from then world should not fail more than for reinstall. case2: are we talking about changing CHOST? a single emerge -e isn't enough to fix that IIUC. So in both cases "emerge -e world" isn't the right solution.

Does anyone know how to resolve the problem where I have to initiate contact with a destination before I can pull from it? All of my requests for data seem to have the 1.0.0.0 buy dedicated ip instead of the destinations IP, UNLESS I ping them first…

Nod-Ubuntu: might be a better question for ##networking

But its directly related to gentoo.

Nod-Ubuntu: pull? what program are you talking about? git, darcs?

never heard of such a thing, sorry, networking stuff like that is handled kernel-level
you might not be giving us enough details

Well honestly, this happened on my desktop as well when attemtping to install gentoo

Nod-Ubuntu: It sounds like your DNS server proxy isn't resloving properly, you use dhcpcd right? BYPASS the modem's DNS using dns_server( "IP1" "IP2") in /etc/conf.d/net contact your ISP if you don't know their DNSes.

The only way around it I know of is to ping the www.gentoo.org location first then attempt to pull.

Savenger, you might be able to work around it by mounting the cd with -o nocase

dns_servers*
Nod-Ubuntu: ^^

Nod-Ubuntu: i've never heard of such a thing, sorry

No I didn't attempt to contact my ISP for their IPs for DNS

Nod-Ubuntu: or you could try the OpenDNS ones: http://www.opendns.com/faq/#how_do_i_start

I am using local 192.168.1.1 for my DNS since my modem should have the info.

kerframil++;

Nod-Ubuntu: READ!

often modems are very, very bad at dns
relax.

beats picking a random one from the list of root hint servers

Nod-Ubuntu: that is not what I said. I said that your modem is bad at caching DNS, you will need to bypass it using and /etc/conf.d/net setting, and you will need your ISPs DNS IPs to do it.

Well on my win machine I see ipconfig /all shows my isp's DNS IP. Are you saying if I replace the IP in my conf file with this one it might resolve the problem?

Nod-Ubuntu: yes.

Okay Night, I'll see what I can do :-)

Nod-Ubuntu: sorry for snapping at your.

Its okay, ignorant people need to be yelled at sometimes.

when i try mounting with -o nocase i get an error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, missing codepage or other error

Nod-Ubuntu: cat /etc/resolv.conf on the affected machine and see if the IP of the router is listed or not.

Myself included, eh Nod-Ubuntu?

Nod-Ubuntu: if it is, then everything that's been said so far is valid.

Is the syntax as simple as opening my 'net setting' and putting the IP, or do I need to specific "DNS = "?

Savenger, hm, I thought that iso9660 supported that option

Oh okay, Ill check that

I am on 228 / 324 on my kde install this is taking quite a while, was on 82 at 3 am

any other idea?

Nod-Ubuntu: the quickest way to try alternate DNS servers is to place them in /etc/resolv.conf. it wil take effect immediately.
Nod-Ubuntu: if you decide that you need a permanent change then the reason that you may need to edit conf.d/net is to tell Gentoo's DHCP client ignore any DNS servers defined by the DHCP lease offered by the router.

I am making progress Kerfamil

Nod-Ubuntu: the entry in /etc/conf.d/net dns_servers( " " " ") worked for me. Also, until you restart the internet you will need to manually specify them in /etc/reslov.conf using namserver 0.0.0.0
Nod-Ubuntu: by internet I mean eth0, eth1, etc.

ttuttle has helped me out

s/namserver/nameserver/

Okay perfect. I'm editting my conf atm. I'll let ya know how it works out.
bOkay perfect. I'm editting my conf atm. I'll let ya know how it works out./b

remind me what the problem was! (I forget)

You told me about the Desktop profiles where my profiles was installing gentoo

can anyone tell me how to mount a cdrom case sensitive? when i mount a cd all dirs and files are lowercase :-(

how do i change the layout of my keyboard in X?

Working like a charm now! :-D

Hello, i have a strange problem with "man". After i moved my computer, the filesystem become somehow corrupted. It was not properly screwed to the case. I used "init 1" to switch into singleuser mode and then i've remounted root partition read-only and executed fsck. It fixed all problems and cleared some inodes. Everything works properly now, except man. When i execute for example man vim, the result is "Lines ?-?/? (END) ". I press q to q
/usr/bin/gtbl: No such file or directory" (sh is my default shell). What can I do to repair man pages?

NightKhaos|Away Nod-Ubuntu: the correct way to do it is something like: dhcpcd_eth0="nodns"

I followed the handbook and installed gentoo like you said and then installed X11 and now its installing ked-meta

i.e. to ensure that resolv.conf isn't clobbered
ah, right. well that's good news.

Yeah its taking days but I got hung up on ati things

Well, so far the resolv.conf suggestion is working good. my 'emerge gentoo-sources' is working.

Nod-Ubuntu: right, but you need to make sure that resolv.conf isn't clobbered when you boot into gentoo.
Nod-Ubuntu: unless you're happy to make the changes to resolv.conf every time you boot

Okay, I'll double check that.

Yup

I'll be happy if I even get into the gentoo environment this time. The reason I'm doing this on my laptop is cause I wanted a gentoo mobile. And when I tried gentoo installation on my desktop, I gave up after 1 week of attempting the install.
Too many errors during installation

Nod-Ubuntu: better luck this time then, eh?

Savenger, there's some discussion on that on the gentoo-user mailing list. I'll see if I can access it via web.

Sure thing.

dawn`chorus: k, thx

If this works for me and I want to try this on my laptop with windows on it is it the same think but shift everything up one number from where windows is at /dev/hda1

has the new scheduler made it into the gentoo-sources?

Any suggestions to get man working ? Maybe one command can solve this issue…

that's probably a safe assumption. persue the partition layout with fdisk to confirm the existing arrangement when the time comes.

Ok thanks

peruse*

how is it not working, can you show us ( http://rafb.net/paste ) some output?

emerge man? -_0

mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/tmp -o map=o

all output i have from "$man something" is empty page with final line "lines ?-?/? (END)". When i press q to quit man, it sometimes prints "sh: /usr/bin/gtbl: No such file or directory". gtbl is afaik tool for formating texts, this tool is imho corrupted. I have no more output, emerge -av man didn't help

emerge –oneshot groff

dawn`chorus: now, everything ist uppercase :-(

well goodness, i say, goodness

how do i know which dev is my alsa sound ?

gtbl is part of groff. you could emerge portage-utils and "qcheck groff" to see if everything is OK, or simply try rebuilding it.

sry fixed

momosh, /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is probably you playback 'device'

Thanks a lot, emerge -oneshoot groff is just running

why does kmix doesnt work with my AD chipset sound ?

momosh, try alsamixer

i'm merging it

Savenger, try mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/tmp -o ro,iocharset=utf-8

momosh, what's the real problem?

merged alsa mixer

no it works
problem solved

groff is rebuilded, but it didn't helped. kerframil: qcheck groff's output: Checking sys-apps/groff-1.19.2-r1 …

/usr/share/groff/site-font
/usr/lib/groff/site-tmac
* 609 out of 611 files are good

too bad kmix doesnt work

i did tell him the paste url earlier.

anyone know why netscape-flash has no unmasked versions at this time?
looked for a glsa advisory or something, but didn't see anything there

Was my last message (output from qcheck groff) visible?

because retarded upstream has 2 different tarballs in their mirrors and it's impossible for us to get it digested correctly.

cool, that works for me
just didn't want to have missed something major security wise that I sould have known about.

yes, but make sure to put it in a pastebin next time. the groff package seems to be OK. I'm not sure what the problem is at present.

when i try mounting with -o ro, iocharset=utf-8 i get an error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, missing codepage or other error

Nod-Ubuntu: status?

yes, ok. Is here a way how to read any man-page using cat? I would like to see if the manual files are even present in the system

to be sure you get my name right, so I'll see it. mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/tmp -o ro,iocharset=windows-1251

dawn`chorus: sorry :-)
dawn`chorus: i get the same error :-(

I've got an idea. try using pinfo to read a man page (emerge pinfo). as for seeing what man pages are available, try: find /usr/share/man -type f -name "*.bz2"

Savenger, of couse, you're unmounting before remounting. mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/tmp -o ro,utf8

presumably bzcat would work just as well?

or just less
Savenger, its a cd iso you're trying to read?

dawn`chorus: yeah, of course…. the option utf8 makes no error, but it's still lowercase

Tommy`: yes, but the markup will be visible. it's not overly pleasant to read.

Savenger, is this a DVD-R ?

Savenger, mount -o loop /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom

ah, wait, man pages
yeah, that;'d be messy

it's the ut2003 cd…. are there other types of cds than iso9660?

nm

dawn`chorus: no, a CD.

Savenger, yes there are other types. just use mount -o loop
Savenger, iso's need to be mounted on a loopback device in order to read them

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