your best bet is to examine the partition table using e.g. fdisk. if that can't read a valid partition table, you're out of luck

I tried reconfiguring my router to be passwordless, but… it seems the liveDVD isn't detecting my wireless adapter (PCI card) as a device..?

[Shiba]: cfdisk shows the partition there

or at least not as a network interface

i was thinking perhaps commercial recovery software. depending on the filesystem there might be tools available. there are more for FAT/NTFS than say EXT3 and the like

xfs_check segfaults??

hays, a segfault from the program probably has nothing to do with fs corruption

what happens when you try to mount it?

hi ?

My only segfault problems on otherwise known working apps were using crazy CFLAGS… and I've stopped doing that now

how do you scroll up in a terminal with no scroll bar?

[Shiba]: it just tells me to specify a file system

jsin2e, usually shift pgup

howto update webapp-config in gentoo, anybody ?

xfs_check seg faults, according to the manpage, when the file system is very corrupt

currently running x86_64, plausable route to convert to regular x86 without wiping and starting over?

yup, thank you Possum

hays, Ah, okay… if it's "very corrupt" I don't have enough experience with xfs to help you

I am having a problem with installing Gentoo on my PS3.

could moving from x86 to x_64 have anything to do with it

gentoo vertigoacid 32-bit chroot

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1&chap=2

jsin2e, another option is to run everything in screen and use ctrl-a [ to enter "copy mode" … this works even from the various vt's while shift-pgup usually won't work

vertigoacid, it's possible, yes

no, I don't want a 32-bit chroot on this system. x86_64 was a dumb idea for me to set up in the first place on this machine, I get nothing but headaches and incompatability, so I want to just go back to normal
messy?

vertigoacid, a bit
you have to grab gcc, glibc and binutils binary packages
for x86
uhm, nah
won't work

hiall, im trying to use a usb-ps/2 adapter.. but no matter i use PS/2 as my mouse device in xorg.conf my system doesnt recognize it

When I go to do an "emerge –sync", it compalins that arch.list is not available, and that profiles/updates is not available. and then, rsync complains that name or services aren't known with rsync.gentoo.org, also, I cant access gentoo.org or any of the mirrors to get a portage snapshot but
I can access every other website

you just need gcc for x86
then, you set the CHOST and profile, and rebuild everything
hmm, still won't work

wget -S http://gentoo.org

sorry, you're on your own

yeah, I figure it's best to just backup /home and start over

the problem is that x86 wants /lib to be 32-bit
on x86_64 it's 64-bit

resolving gentoo.org… failed: name or service not known.

some programs (esp. gcc and python) rely on /lib and /usr/lib being correct

cat /etc/resolve.conf

a ping works on google.ca but not on gentoo.org

midnight, dead route?
hmm, no, a dead server
hah, a live server, but with ping filtering
I guess why

# cat /etc/resolv.conf gives me "search chartermi.net / nameserver 24.159.193.40"

I have hear that libtool link seems to be missing is something you see in gentoo emerges but is there a way to fix it?

it's an experimental stage4 i got from a howto a guy did on installing fedora linux on ps3

benkong2, fix_libtool_files.sh?

which is what im doing

ping -C1 134.68.220.74

AStorm, ok thanks

darn
lowercase c

I'm getting an error with /opt/bin/aticonfig : "error while loading shared libraries: libXrandr.so.2: cannont open shared object file: No such file or directory" Is it possible to fix this?
bI'm getting an error with /opt/bin/aticonfig : "error while loading shared libraries: libXrandr.so.2: cannont open shared hosting object file: No such file or directory" Is it possible to fix this?/b

do i need to install something special to use an old ps/2 mouse on a computer that has no ps/2 ports? im trying to use one of those little adaptors..

the ping was successful

weird… nc gentoo.org 80 isn't working either, but shows up fine from the browser o_O

ok, use that for SYNC, then

white_rabbit_obj, yes, use revdep-rebuild from gentoolkit

does anyone know if it is possible to use ACL with some form of symbolic link? since the FS im trying to implement ACLs on is NTFS?

Possum, yes, weird

some DNS snafu

it's because gentoo.org is a rotation

AStorm, I see

how do i set it up so it syncs from that, put it in make.conf?

midnight, use rsync.gentoo.org instead

hi, can anyone say - 'x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.14.11 USE="gtk%* (-multilib)' , why -multilib ? it's present in make.conf

SYNC="rsync://134.68.220.74/gentoo-portage"
yes, put it in make.conf for now
gotta go, peace out

VFoX, it's an obsolete flag

VFoX, erm… do you really need 32-bit and 64-bit drivers for your vid card?

obsolete ?? but it's Not install 32bit OGL driver!

hm..

Possum, USE=multilib doesn't work now

wine,32 bit games ,Quake 4

VFoX, it should
it installs both

but it's not

AStorm, I didn't change or upgrade my gcc. What would be the arguments for fix_libtool_sh?

benkong2, uhm, then it's not for this

yes. .run script dose but emerge not

ok

VFoX, hmm, go report a bug, but check your profile first

i updated portage and there were 3 config files to update, but when i run etc-update only 2 were shown saying "— Invalid atom in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: x11-wm/fluxbox-1.0_rc3_p4983"; what does this mean?

you should have the default amd64 one, not no-multilib one
nonx800, it means that atom is invalid

I am doing a fresh install and KDE is installing its 108 packages and I started noticing that the libtool seems to be moved was comming on the screen

s/atom/depstring/

I tried revdep-rebuild…it looked like it was going to do the trick, but when I go back to run /var/bin/aticonfig I get the same error

nothing has failed to install yet though

benkong2, ignore it

ok

it's a problem with many makefiles

libtool normally warns about reloacted libraried

so is that a problem?

nonx800, as you can see

so can you tell me where to look to understand this? becouse i dont get you

benkong2, it's because many makefiles detect that the libs are in the build dir
nonx800, in the file mentioned
benkong2, and think it's because they moved
as sandbox is cheating a bit, and emerge uses DESTDIR variable often
if the problem shows with –prefix, the makefiles are a tiny bit broken

well okay, thank you very much.

has anyone in here had any problems with bcm43xx native driver with WRT54g routers?

achew222 I have a hell of a time with my bcm
I have a wrt54gx
I got an atheros today, no problems since the switch

atheros router or atheros wifi card?

wifi card

i've wrt54g with no problems

d-link g650 rev c

i don't know I want to do that since its an internal wifi card

mine is too
I just pulled it out

pcimini i think
how much was it?

you can get an atheros for $15 on ebay

does that mean I loose my bluetooth?

I have a D-link DWA-552..?

It has nothing to do with your bluetooth. what is the problem with your bcm? I might just have a bad card, lots of people have success with bcm

What is bcm?

it works in windows and on the wifi at work, just not at home

broadcom

oh

can someone advice me good file manager?
and how can I edit my xorg config? where is it located?

I use the native drives and a wrt54g w/ tomato firmware, no problems

_nightw0lf, I am using rox

thnx i will try it

where did you get the "tomato" firmware?

do you know where is the xorg config located?

/etc/X11 I think

it's a fork of dd-wrt http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato
much more slimmed down, I used to have to reboot every few days with dd-wrt, but now haven't in months

an emerge –sync completed but now when i try to emerge portage all the servers don't work…

cool, thanks. say, I just run the 'startx' (fresh gentoo install) does the X system knows what settings to use or i need to edit it?

dd-wrt is a hog :/

"name or service not known"

achew222, is it not working at all, or disconnects or what exactly is the problem?
my problem was frequent disconnects and poor speed

it connects doesn't do dhcp

you have a dhcp client installed?

lots of other networks around on similar channels?

I do, i'm on plugged in right now via ethernet on dhcp

that's the only problem I see with the native drivers that's worse than the ndiswrapper ones

yes, I changed the channel to a unique one

are you using wpa_supplicant or not?

I'm not, i removed wpa and wep its unsecure right now

since I switched over, I've had to be a lot more explicit with my priorities in the config, otherwise it just hops back and forth between access points

I do not recall having to edit my xorg.conf manually, I think everything was detected correctly on its own

could I see your /etc/conf.d/net as an example for configuring

sure

how?

modules=("dhcpcd")
dns_domain_lo="notyournetwork"
config_eth0=( "dhcp" )
dhcpcd_eth0="-t 10 -N"
modules=( "wpa_supplicant" )

you did something for that? or just emerged the gdm and it worked for you?

jeez 6 lines is a flood, eh?

vertigoacid, yep

apparently

3+ lines is a flood

3 to paste bin

http://rafb.net/p/jMeYjE65.html

how can I change now the run level? I mean after I will boot, it will automaticly will run the gdm

rc-update add gdm default

yup

or kdm, xdm, whathave you

fluxbox
su

I am using fluxbox
and I use xdm

what's xdm?

what is line 6

grpphical login manager

you mean, what does it do?

no, it didn't get sent

we only saw 5 lines before you got kicked

* rc-update: '/etc/init.d/gdm' not found; aborting

wpa_supplicant_wlan0="-Dwext"
well are you using gnome?

is xorg installed _nightw0lf?

no, fluxbox

I assume your wifi is eth0, mine is eth2 so change wlan0 to wlan2?

http://pastebin.ca/619716 guys, how is this for a web server? I have absolutelly no more services on it

probably /etc/init.d/xdm then

when i run emerge ati-drivers i see a package called virtual/ghostscript-0 0kB

well I guess, I'm running now fluxbox

what is that?

oh, yeah, then you must

no, wifi is wlan0, ethernet is eth0

afi

my wifi showed up as eth2

the name doesn't really matter

I know

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-545150-highlight-.html?sid=4b023d4b7cdc6b2ebd2c7799ccf158f0

but if i'm referencing it by the wrong name i'll get problems

iwconfig shows it as eth2 as well?

how do you launch fluxbox now _nightw0lf?

so wifi is not ethernet?

can anyone help me configure an ATI video card with X? I've read the ATI FAQ several times and I just can't seem to get it right

yes

that is to say, ethernet requires cabling?

well then you're good to go

hmm.. I've started 'startx' and probbobly it lunched the gdm or whatever, and I chose fluxbox from the sessions menu.

its not seeing my wifi now, but thats standard based on where I am in the house, lets see if I can get on a neighbor's wifi

well, ethernet does refer to the specific physical layer and data link layer implimentation

just do 'rc-update add xdm default' and that should bring it up each time

ok

alright, thanks

np

I'm new to wireless in linux and I don't have a hard cable connection available so .
I'm not sure what to do to get network connectivity

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Wireless_Configuration_and_Startup has pretty good info on basic wifi config

How do I go about building from a local ebuild? (getting 'not a valid portage tree')

hi i have a question about mounting windows shares on gentoo
with samba

make a local overlay
this is not rpm …

so .. after 24 hours .. I didn't manage to make gentoo run under vmware

bonsaikitten, how would I got about that?

go on

tried all the howto's .. it just can't boot the /
let's hope it'll be different in a real environment

here's my xorg.conf (using the xorg "radeon" driver)

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_Samba#Using_SMB but it says mount error: could not find target server. TCP name hermitian/globalshare not found

http://pastebin.com/d74c5f228

its not case sensitive is it?

dns names are not case sensitive, but share names probably are. can you ping hermitian and resolve the IP?

thank you guys for all your help.

so "ping hermitian" into terminal?

yep

unknown host, it says

well, then the DNS server you're pointing at doesn't know that hostname
use the IP instead

hi folks; I just got a gentoo system installed, and I'm having trouble using abcde. Whenever I try to rip to mp3 with lame, the computer reboots at some point (usually closer to the end of the ripping)

Unable to load image file" when trying to use fbsetbg, however, I believe my image files are valid

that worked
thanks!

jsin, ignore those dumb tools and use feh instead
it works with faux-transparent backgrounds too

yet another thing to emerge :/

well, off to start from scratch. sigh. back in a few hours

I just emerged feh, how do I inform fbsetbg that I want to use feh instead of Esetroot?

anyone have an idea why abcde would make my computer restart like that?

it's an publish your images online viewer too
jsin2e, you don't

thanks…I think my problem was that I was trying to use the fglrx driver…I switched over the radeon and it seems to have solved the problem I was having

use it directly

anybody know if theres a channel devoted to data recovery/forensics?

anyone here use kget?

I have

i can't get it to auto resume. it pops up an error window "connection lost". but then it never attempts to resume unless I manually resume
connection attempts are set to 99, and set to rety in 15 minute intervals

thechris, I used it too .. stopped though because the proc usage would get to 100% ..

what's your Connection Type set to?

always connected

you mean "Permanent" ?

yes

sorry, no idea ;(
try in #kde or #gentoo-kde

#kde is dead
a waiting room

yeah, only 296 nicks there

I'm trying to install gentoo on my laptop, I haven't a wired connection, so I'm forced to use a wireless connection. I can't seem to get the 2007.0 livecd to work with my driver (ipw2200) and the minimal iso doesn't work either, is there a solution to this? Perhaps, using the 2006.1 iso
(which would be a pain)

you can use any linux boot system, any liveCD, liveUSB, or linux distro to install Gentoo
have you tried to see if knoppix works?

I haven't, my net is pretty slow, so the option of installing via knoppix would have to be kept for another day
I have the 2006.1 iso here, however.

does that work?

I haven't tried it, thus far. I'm awaiting response from you, as to whether it is wise to run it
It is pretty old after all

you don't have to use the stage tarball on the particular liveCD
If you can get a network connection from the 2006.1 you can download the 2007.0 tarball

I wonder if my connection would work.

phew. well I guess i'm startin' over
never seen a hard drive go bad like that for no reason

hi, i've just recompiled my kernel with alsa as a module, and now i can't see any text in kde applications
like konsole, the task bar, etc

contradiction-pi: that makes no sense

contradiction-pi: did you reinstall your graphics driver after running "make modules_install"

well 2007.0

modprobe the driver though

contradiction-pi: what else did you change?

hold.

Quick question guys

i only changed the alsa stuff, and then did make && make modules_install. however, when i started kde, i saw the nvidia screen
i only changed the alsa things

now time for kde to emerge

contradiction-pi: hm~ weird

contradiction-pi: well, the kde font problem is unrelated — ohhhh wait, did you reemerge your video driver package?

no

When running etc-update what option is best if it has files that i have updated before like hostname and keynaps

contradiction-pi: do that

emerge nvidia-drivers?

contradiction-pi: yes

can I set a gcc version for just one emerge run using an env var?

i hope i'm typing this stuff right, because i can't see a thing

contradiction-pi: use a terminal
contradiction-pi: ctrl-alt-f1
s/terminal/virtual terminal/

its weird, during emerges im barely any cpu

*banghead* PEBKAC

I think I saw it hit 20%

'course, there's no way he can get back into x until his driver gets remerged

is it easy to see what temperatures are
without going into bios

look at lmsensors
wiki has a good article

yay, worked

my computer is buzzing at me during emerges
which probably means I'm getting a little hot

I am trying to get gensplash to work using the 2007.0 theme, but it is booting normally. This is my kernel line: kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22.1 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/gentoo/root dolvm2 udev vga=791 splash=silent,theme:livecd-2007.0
CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 quiet

i compiled alsa as a module, but it doesn't show up in lsmod, nor does alsaconf detect my card

Anybody from the KDE herd here?

try #gentoo-kde

Fieldy, good idea m8

anyone see a problem with my kernel line or is the problem elsewhere?

it's up now
i'll get a stage tarball and download.
it should take a while however :/

Gentoo installer is barfing because my harddrive is GPT/MBR hybrid (macbook)
how can I do a networkless install without worrying about that?
i can't find instructions to do GRP without using the installers, and the cli and gtk installers both barf at partitioning
even though i can mkfs /dev/sda* et al

It's called Gentoo Handbook, bro

I was reading the handbook
the networkless install instructions are in the 2007.0 set
and they both refer to the installer

I'm getting an error from emerge telling me "!!! cairo needs the X flag set" … what does that mean?

what do you need installers for?

and have no instructions for pointing portage at the cd instead of the internet
I'm trying to do a networkless install

add 'X' in your USE="" in /etc/make.conf

howdy. i'm trying to start up alsa (i've compiled alsa into the kernel as a module) by doing /etc/init.d/alsasound start, but i always get http://pastebin.com/m51a8bf7b , even though i've looked online and snd-intel8×0 is definitely the correct
driver

in /etc/makeconf, there is DISTDIR=

The automated installation (aka the "networkless install") isn't nearly as good as the "manual" installation, and has been known to have many problems. Additionally, it's not recommended for use unless you're familiar with the standard install procedure to begin with in the event that it doesn't
work

I'm used to gentoo install very much

how to enter a process?

but i can't find GRP instructions that -don't- use the installer

I added 'X' to USE="" in /etc/make.conf, but I still get the same error

I've never done a GRP/networkless install

For Macs don't you just need to use a Mac-compatable boot loader?

ps aux | vim, i see multiple vim instances opening different files. How to enter these vim processes and start editing these files?

I can boot find and everything

did ya recompile cairo after that?

it's the installing with GRP packages that is the issue

ps aux | grep vim

is that the same as running emerge again?

yes, emerge cairo

please, how can I successfully use ooqstart-gnome? When I add it to panel, it doesn't work and ask me to configure OO path..

just define DISTDIR= in make.conf

contradiction-pi: have you tried installing alsa using the ebuild rather than using the one in the kernel?

question 2, where are the GRP packages on the livecd?

I have some ntfs partision how can i make it ext3?

ah, there we go.. /var/db/pkg .. ?

no, from the gentoo alsa guide, i understood the module route to be better. i'll try the ebuild way now

should be in ${DISTDIR}/packages

the packages are all in /mnt/livecd/var/db/pkg

that did the trick! thanks!

that should be the info about installed packages, not packages thelves

it'z .bz2 files

* themselves

hi, when doing tab completion on an nfs share bash locks up, … how can I prevent this ?

ok i used the gentoo wiki safe cflags for pentium4, so i have
oops

it's not possible to convert, rather you can go ahead and create an ext3 filesystem. if the data contained in the ntfs filesystem is important then you'll have to back it up (or lose it).

"-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -formit-frame-pointer"

5@C:C HK BI 2D5D 5@C:C
no data there

and its causing compiles to fail
the -formit-frame-pointer part

throw it away

what is too hot for a CPU? 60 C?

It's "-fomit-frame-pointer"

Is $PS1 the correct var to set my command prompt?

well, mkfs -j it then (and set the partition type to 83).

60 c is pretty high, 75 is usually shutdown temp

octavarium, it's '-fomit-frame-pointer'

ok
no r
lol

what do I put in make.conf to tell it that I have a certain sound/video card?

maybe that's the problem

depends on your cpu

mine runs at 32 with a zalman fan

check the specs of the vendor (e.g. a pentium core duo has 95 degrees celsius as its limit, 60 is rather normal)

VIDEO_CARDS="

mine seems to pop to 60 every once in a while

my bad i have amd's

is there one for sound cards too?

no hays

wow, so I wonder why mine alarms at 60

which CPU is it?

core2quad

VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia vesa vga"

maybe bios settings

The fonts in my vlc subtitles are all pixelated. any ideas why?

is it possible the sensor saturates at 60C?

hi, my packade.mask seems to be completly blank(?!), where can i find information on why netscape-flash has been masked?

if i'm using alsa-driver should i make Sound Card Support a module in the kernel?

where's the alarm coming from? sensor application or hardware?

my case is buzzing at me

contradiction-pi, yes

check the bios settings

sensors shows 60C

how about ALSA?

nah, the bios usually has a alarm setting, it might be too low

the gentoo ALSA guide says the two methods are mutually exclusive

contradiction-pi, if you want an in kernel alsa, compile it in. if you want to install the separate package, leave it out

a quad core has about 130 W tdp, which makes 60 degree look very normal

contradiction-pi, yes, but you still need soundsystem support either way

if i clean my cpufan it gets me +_14 dgrees

http://processorfinder.intel.com/List.aspx?ProcFam=2774&sSpec=&OrdCode=

How do I referse a chmod 666 ?

that and I am overclocking

lookup your specs there

rakeyry, chmod whateverwastherebefore?

don't have a mouse at the moment but i'll look when I do

without knowing the original mask?

im emerging kde as we speak
up to libxv

60 isnt that normal fir amd

There's so much copper in this thing there's no way its getting hot

Where do i define the distdir target to on the livecd?

nolimitsoya It was /usr/share/themes

seems your thermal specs are 62.2 degrees celsius

hays, it could be mounted improperly, clogged with dust or ju plain broken

I've got this board with copper runs and fins all over it, and a huge copper fan

you're about to fry your cpu…

have you actually touched the hsf to see if it's getting that hot?

rakeyry, unmerge, remerge

my zalman 7000 can get very dusty

yikes

mobo thermal sensors can often be off by tens of degrees

brb

What..?

vertigoacid, thats why no single proper program polls them
rakeyry, whatever was in themes, unmerge it and remerge. anyways, this is why you should always have a proper backup. wakeupcall

Why not just change it back to whatever it was?

umm, what else would they poll?

rakeyry, becouseyou dont know what that was, apparently…

mobo reading in BIOS = lm sensors that you're going to be looking at anywhere else

vertigoacid, the integrated thermal probe

I wasn't aware that you could actually poll the CPU itself. cool

What's yours?

rakeyry, i wont tell you
rakeyry, seriously, using settings from someone elses system is _not_ a good idea. anyway, was it a recursive change, or just for the inode?

Just for the one..

rakeyry, well then. 744 should be a safe bet

5I 3KC ?4G H BBC2 5I CLC:?C ?4G I: H5MK CBI35@ BH2HD-2:HC:K?
sorry

ZogG, no. you will never be forgiven
:F

Thanks

to use glx i need to emerge glx or it's enought to use nvidia drivers
i have problem =(
no direct render =(

ZogG, emerge the nvidia drivers, add the proper strings to xorg.conf and run eselect opengl set nvidia

How do I unzip a folder without creating a main folder for it. Like for example for 123.tar.gz that would have a file /foo/bar/1/ /foo/bar/2/ /foo/bar/3/ instead of a /foo/bar/123/1 /foo/bar/123/2 etc. etc.

ZogG, i think nvidia provides a tool to do the xorg.conf configuration automagicaly. try things like nvidia-glx-enable and alike - tabcomp is nice

nvidia-settings would be the one to use
gentoo ZogG nvidia guide

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

likewhoa, no, it wouldnt

likewhoa used it

phew well brought the clock back down

it generates modelines for you that's about all.

what was weird was that it would just spike

eselect opengl list

it would hang around at like 42-43 and then boom hit 60

make sure your 'nvidia' module is loaded too

=CK
yes
[1] nvidia *

I am trying to setup gensplash with livecd-2007.0 theme, but it is not loading. Does anyone see a problem with my setup or have other advise for me? http://pastebin.ca/619803

likewhoa, im talking about the nvidia script for enabling the driver provided in the driver package itself. nvidia-settings is the control panel usable after installing and setting up the driver, and thats at a later stage

post your xorg.conf then

http://pastebin.com/d78b3c3de

i must be ahead then.

that sounds weird
while being idle?

Nobody know?

no, while doing stuff

simple explanation: multi-threaded (more than one core doing things) vs. single-threaded

its possible maybe the fourth core was kicking in or something

glxinfo|grep direct doesn't show direct rendering?

rakeyry, man tar

besides, wth do you need overclocking with a quad core???

shows "No"

I don't, but its been said they easily overclock to 3.0 so I figured I'd try it

rakeyry xarchiver ?

Can you at least tell me what I am looking for is called so I know what to look for?

lsmod|grep nvidia

glad I didn't drop money on fast overclocking RAM

they do

but probably not by just adding to FSB freq and with a simple copper fan

this fan is ginormous

i run a core2 dou at 4.2Ghz but that's dual-core,.. i know a few friends that run quad-core at 3.8Ghz+

which doesn't say anything about its effectiveness

it has a ton of surface area

and what's the temperature inside the case?

Zalman CNPS9700

nvidia 4706740 22
likewhoa

damn…
mine seems to be getting hot
is that one of the sensors? let me see

restart X and then post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log

that's all what matters, adding 15 degrees (it's summer dude!) to the outside temperature will bring you above the limit very easily

keep your temps below 60C load

rakeyry, somethingdirectorysomething i bet ya

that is load temps.. you should want idle temps of 30-45C

I .. see.

yeah I was pegging 60C under load

all those tests they run are lab tests, not real world (i.e. damn hot room after playing whatever fancy game for 2 hours)

they can handle high temps 85C is the mark were the cpu starts to throttle

yet somehow I'm getting heat problems at 3.0 GHz

http://pastebin.com/d363a833f
likewhoa

i would use GIMPS,MEMTEST86 and plain old glibc compiles to test stability.

someone looked up my spec and said it was 62

not the spec i've seen though, thermal design was 60+

emerge kde on a new system is what I used..

TMAX is about 85C

it's *you*, who should actually look it up *before* attempting to fry your CPU

that's not true stability testing… you want to test both ram and cpu well

my p4 is unfryable

well that's why I turned the alarm on

i tried to do it 3 times, still works

and what is the problem? as X seems the driver and has enabled direct rendering

right now I brought it back down to regular speed

likewhoa glxinfo thinks another way

prescott?

but compiling made the alarm go off when I had it at 3.0 Ghz

northwood
2400

raise the limit on it.

normal clock is 2.4 GHz, right?

the clips of my cpufan broke one time, so i could test it

im gonna have to check that heat spec before I do that
yep

then it seems the spec is the right one…

what does it say for the regular core duos?

you idle temps should be like 5-10C above ambient temp depending on HSF and mount.

hey, I'm about to start compiling a desktop environment, and I have a few questions about USE flags. does anyone know what xcb is? it's a flag for the X11 package.

euse -i xcb should tell you

likewhoa thanks!

im curious if the core2quad is unique

i got an opteron 165 overclocked from 1800MHz to 3150Mhz under water but now i run it at 2859Mhz at stock voltage

go to the website

likewhoa which package is euse in? portage-utils or something?

gentoolkit

im links-limited until I get kde

use links with jpg USE flag.

enjoy your CPU until then

is there any channel about desklets and all that/

I don't have framebuffer support compiled in … never could get it to work on the first try

i made the mistake of leaving out the '-bin' part when i emerged openoffice about 2 hrs ago. does anyone know approximately how long its gonna take to compile on a p4 with 1gb ram???

i can't find a comparable spec, but i know that the t2500 (or whatever this thing is called) working in my notebook has 95 degrees tmax

4-5 h

thanx

np

just hit 45

What do I have to emerge to get pecl?

Arek, whats been keeping you? )

Just not really needing it.

probably one of the 2381 pecl-* packages (depends on what you need)

please, how can I successfully use ooqstart-gnome? When I add it to panel, it doesn't work and ask me to configure OO path..

Probably won't take long, tho.

I only really need the hash module.

Arek, why install it if you dont need it? perhaps you should have a look at gnumeric and abiword instead?

no ebuild for pecl-hash (if that makes any sense)

I know, that's what confuses me.

so it's either part of some other ebuild or not available

Actually, I am probably going to be needing it, since I'm about to go to school online and my school requires me to be able to handle MSWord documents.
Among others.

45C is fine,.. just don't go above 60-65C on load

by ms vista and office2007

btw here is the data sheet http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/31559202.pdf
look under thermal specifications

Vista? Go away.

ew vista?

Uh, Windows 3.1?

XP is bad enough.

Arek, ;o)

Vista's like a half-a$$'d beryl wannabe

Winblows 3.11 was da best

Possum, please dont mention areo and beryl in the same sentence please

I agree with HappySquirrel

arrggh…so guys, help me out here. How come the font-rendering is crappy on almost all media-players on gentoo?

HappySquirrel 1.0

Possum, it sort of taints beryl in some way

i've tried vlc, mplayer, kaffeine and totem- only gmplayer seems to do any better
we're talkign abotu .srt format.

yagami, xorg-osd b0rked?

nolimitsoya, Well, it's just vista's attempts were so horrible … I'm trying to point out that it's really _not_ a just comparison

can't read that until I get X installed

check the flags they may use

i am using xinerama.

Possum, dont you feel the need to wash your mouth out with clorine after talking about *gulp* aero? i do.

can that cause the problem?

47C..

yagami, what i just suggested? O.o

My Gentoo is saying that it cannot mount a partition during boot, anyway for me to figure out which one? (I think it's my ATAPI drive, actually)

i fail to see 85 degrees

nolimitsoya, The one time I used it, I puked shortly after, so yes

yeah, nolimitsoya - i am saying that xinerama flag is used in x11-libs/xosd. isnt that what you're talking about?

yagami, na

Mine is a core 2 quad (not extreme) 2.4 GHz
I guess they made an extreme for a while

ooooooook, so how do i find out if its 'b0rked' :p

yagami, look into the configuration and perhaps reemerge it
yagami, anyways, whats wrong with the rendering?

.srt format subtitles show up pixelated on vlc/kaffeine/totem
and like i said, so far only mplayer seem to do a fair job

yagami, well, thats a "problem" of missing antialiasing

i'd say play it safe
check /etc/fstab
ATAPI would be a cdrom or something

yeah, no reason to risk it unless I find hard evidence its ok

likewhoa H BI5HAC2 5@D5 04D? I7CB?4 2HKKD7C:C2 0:IL LD;CNAIB0 - LD=8C 8CAD3KC I0 5@HK?

I'd be pissed if I melted this really nice chip

likewhoa sorry again

Yeah I only have 4 fstab entries, /boot, /, none, and /mnt/cdrom

ZogG, whats with the cerylic?

getting some weird results trying to rebuild evas and ecore after a revdep-rebuild…saying ecore isn't found. Have these been deprecated or something?

They are reiserfs, reiserfs, swap, and auto for filesystem… any problem with my boot partition being in reisferfs?

sorry just sitting on several chanels - thats why sometimes don't pay attention to lang

ZogG, isnt there some sort of autolang for diffrent channel in you client?

likewhoa noticed that flag opengl dissapered from make.conf - maybe this is a reason ? =(
nolimitsoya no
i hte such progs also

ZogG, tried konversation?

until they will be AI i don't believe at lang auto change
nolimitsoya xchat
and from console BitchX

ZogG, then we are not talking about the same thing. i can set the char encoding to diffrent (persistent) settings for every individual channel wouldnt that solve your problem?

whats the commands to open this file /etc/make.conf

RamSeize, nano

ok

you can use any editer, such as vi or nano

RamSeize, or nano -w, or vim or what ever you prefer

nolimitsoya i can't and don't need - utf-8 is my solution
almost everywhere on freenode is utf8

you have auto for the cdrom drive?

is there any channel regarding adesklets/

Oh, but there's no CD in the drive, is that why it isn't mounting? I'm such an idiot sometimes

then a) put a cdrom in your drive when booting or b) edit fstab to have a noauto for it

Does my swap partition benefit from being either primary or logical?
My instinct is to make it primary
Ditto for my boot partition

doesn't matter at all

http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
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http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/

hi

yes I saw

http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
a href="http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/"http://st-pitch.miniville.fr//a
http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
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if only one of our hundred or so ops were around

nah, that would make sense…

is there any channel regarding adesklets/
does anyone know
i keep asking.

ugh

did you try #adesklets ?

yea i did

gentoo tommy handbook amd64

Tommy`: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/

hrm
nah, that wasn't it

I finally get something that looks like an answer to my question and I get called away for dinner . haha… okay, so how do I know if my WLAN card is detected or not?

well, does it show up when you run iwconfig?

im looking to do something like this with my yab toolbar, http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/images/screenshots/gnoomy_0.jpg but I can't get the stupid opactiy to 0 there is this black box around the whole thing.
and i've looked everywhere in the config.txt and yea

oh no, ati-drivers compile failed : http://rafb.net/p/063qY994.html

can't find anything that does it.

what do i do?

For adesklets I think you should find a channel specific to whatever you're looking for. They might have some info that is helpful in adesklet BSD channels

Umm, I can check
heh… I can't be on IRC and be booted into linux at the same time until this works

yea i have no idea where any of these channels are..

Just try typing adesklet and irc into google, or "yab toolbar" and irc

/list

on freenode? /list is a bad idea…

but it works

yeah if you've got an hour to spare

That is like posting your email address and asking for spam! There is no end to it

well i was showing howto look for channels unless they do /list #blah

lol
http://brokendesigns.net/ss.png
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How do I "unmask" ies4linux?

whats it masked by
?

Missking keyword

what arch you running?

people don't read anymore..

correct my man

amd64

thats why

yeah. probably is broken on amd64

awesome, I will download it manually

it's exactly that kind of shit why i'm reinstalling x86 right now

hey guys, what about pidgin?

run a chroot

how to unmask it?

what about it
whats it masked by
?

lol

what gives emerge -pv xineramaproto

too much work. what good does x86_64 do the average desktop right now?

ppl dont read do they ?

its masked for every archs

wow .. this is a massive list… haha
yep

by what

slows down games under cedega

emegre -pv pidgin
whats is SAY ?

"Masked by ~amd64 flag"

so keywords

but i go on the ebuild and all the archs are marked

dont need to edit ebuild

ping?

just need to add a line in /etc/portage/package.keywords

i just saw it

wine should work with amd64

oh

it does

package.keyword. I am new to gentoo, just testing it out on my desktop

ok, no, it does not show up in iwconfig

the handbook (how to say that in english) suggested me another file to put a line on

it is keywords

have you compiled the proper modules for your wifi card?

I need to fix that .

err, blair

dont forget the s

I don't know; I'm using the liveDVD
so I presume not
seeing as how it's a wireless-N card

well, the livedvd should have modules for most supported cards…

so, almost done, what line should I use?

Hello, I am trying to setup a jabber server on my home, but, what is the way to add users using jabber.xml o something like this?

#jabber?

It said 'no network interfaces auto-detected' during the boot sequence

googled around to see if your wifi card is even supported under linux based hosting services at all?

if your using the gentoo liveCD yeah it isnt god with wifi

No, I haven't . There's no such thing as a generic driver, eh?

use knoppix or another livecd to install

if so, find out what kernel module, run lsmod, and see if the module is available. if not, yeah, like richiefrich said

mm'k

I am building a new kernel, when I boot into it, will I need to remerge madwifi-ng before my wifi works again?

knoppix or ubuntu are ones of the best for a livecd for wifi
yeah if it is a different ver
if it is the same ver no

if the kernel is a different version?

yeah
like 1.6.22
err
like 2.6.22
like 2.6.21

I am going from vanilla 2.6.22.1 to gentoo 2.6.22-r1

ok, upon googling, it seems to work with madwifi according to a few other users so I guess I'll be good to go with that