Media Devices at all?

in which init script udev gets called?

Uh
The Gentoo LiveCD is missing something I consider chriticle..why? Usbutils is not isntalled so lsusb doesn't work.
The Gentoo LiveCD is missing something I consider chriticle..why? Usbutils is not isntalled so lsusb doesn't work.
Why would that be?

Keith-BlindUser, What USB device do you want to know about

nope

Is there a command that tells you how many tty's that are open (that will give 8 if I start a new X on vt8, for example), or that gives what displays are running, e.g. gives ":0.0 and :1.0"?

Keith-BlindUser: You could file a feature request at http://bugs.gentoo.org/

(maybe offtoopic?)
(maybe off topic?)

Ah

Have you recompiled (re-emerged) amarok since you enabled the njb USE flag?

it's been enabled since i built amarok
it shows up as a plugin in media devices

Jesus, try who

maybe you could use who, grep and count?

amarok doesn't have autodetection for nomad devices, so i tried to add the device manually
it still cannot connect to it, however

can anybody help me with a problem involving a file being overwritten in /var/spool?

tried that, but a new x-session do not register as a new loggedin user.

err… can't remember if there is a command called count now… just trying to remember

Hello! Im having some problems with filesystem checking on system boot - everyday its says that the disc hasnt been checked for XXXX days and that he has to do it right now. What can couse this bug ?

I emerged uptimed to record uptimes, but it's not saving across reboot. Whenever I start uptimed, it's overwriting the file containing the records with a new one.

maybe you could give "uniq" a go

uniq?

sorry that was for "Jesus" who wants to count ttys

I was trying to use uptimed to record system uptime across reboots. Like total uptime isnce the OS install.

Did you edit /etc/uptimed.conf ?
**

nope, should i ?

Wrong nick

super

the only config file there is is /etc/uptime.conf-dist
and yes I've edited it.

cp /etc/uptimed.conf-dist /etc/uptime.conf && /etc/init.d/uptimed restart
/etc/uptimed.conf even..

how can i install gdm and only gdm without the huge amount of gnome-tools?
-gnome doesn't help mutch

ok
did that
and now I have 2 records.
o_O how you do that?
tmr = magic

i think gdm is dependant on them
you could just use xdm

i just tried xdm and it's ugly and not very useful.

yea

that cant be true: i want to use gdm and fluxbox.

you will have certin dependencies no matter what, i would say suck it up and compile what you have to

but why gnome-vfs and gnome-keyring???

hell, i don't know
i use kde

ok.. thanks

heh

Could you pastebin /etc/fstab?

BTW

im still having problems with X,,, it still crashes. i get fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'

Are pastebin interies permanent? Or do they go away after time?
the pasteban things

/dev/hdb3 / ext3 noatime 0 1

MarilyN MansoN ScripT

Keith-BlindUser: depends on the bin
some are semi-permanent

How about the nopaste thing you can emerge with portage?

thanks for the help
brb

Keith-BlindUser: that uses pastebin.com, which probably has to delete things due to high usage

And kernel line from grub/lilo config..

Keith-BlindUser: same answer, depends on the web-based paste engine it pastes to

or, well, I think it uses pastebin.com :p

||DrAgOnX||………. :/……….||DrAgOnX||

maybe not

Hey this is zahid

||DrAgOnX||………. « zeon » okz……….||DrAgOnX||

title=Gentoo
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/250507

||DrAgOnX||………. « zeon » wats goin on here……….||DrAgOnX||
||DrAgOnX||………. ?……….||DrAgOnX||

Please stop that

if I have the same package version available from 2 overlays (or more), is there a way to choose which overlay it will be installed from?

yeah rm or mv the one you don't want :p

any ideas ?
everyday he says that this disk havent been checked for 3452 days or so

You could try adding 'ro' to kernel line, maybe that allows fsck to do it's job..
kernel /boot/250507 ro

in grub config ?
ok

Yes.

ill try if it wont help ill be back tomorrow
thx and cya

font path is /usr/share/fonts/ in gentoo?

NP.

thats not a solution
although it can work

grep -i path /etc/X11/xorg.conf

whats that for

your answer

to the fontpath question or to fix my error

Hey, I am trying to compile wine-0.9.3 and got "lex.yy.c:9174: error: expected ';', ',' or ')' before numeric constant", can someone please help or should I just use a different version?

shiftplusone thats a really old WINE

NeddySeagoon, yeah but it's most stable for Ragnarok.
NeddySeagoon, I normally use the cvs version.
NeddySeagoon, not stable enough though.

shiftplusone That error means the source code is broken and nobody will want to support it now. Get a current version

amarok recognizes my zen touch as root, but not as user
anyone have any tips as to how i could allow access for my normal user?

NeddySeagoon, yeah that's what I figured… I'll see how cvs goes, thanks.

That sounds like a permissions issue. Check the groups list at the back of the first section of the Gentoo manual and see if there's any which sound relevent.

shiftplusone, wine is at 0.9.40 now

NeddySeagoon, 0.9.40 isn't stable enough for RO.

I believe the user must be a member of the audio group. I added myself, but still nothing

Have you logged off and logged back in since adding the groups? Groups changes basically require a logoff to take effect
I'd also make sure your user is in the usb and plugdev gorups
*groups

can you all take a look at my configured xorg and tell me if there is anything out of place http://rafb.net/p/UN0nqc27.html

poop, do u want to use the vesa driver or do u want to try the ati driver?… also check http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts to sort out your fonts
poop, and you will wanna do this too http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Automatically_turn_off_your_monitor

no the ati driver always messes things up,,, and i thought it was specifically for r300 or under, but as you can see i use RV515
ive done it 2 times with ati-driver and got bad results

in that case it looks fine… check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any line starting with (EE) or (WW)

thanks ill look at the fonts section and that monitor thing
screen 0 is not dri capable

poop, make it work first .. make it better/faster/prettier when it works
poop you can't be using vesa then, it does not even check for DRI

poop, wanna paste bin you Xorg log?

well im running x with X -config /root/xorg.conf.new — its exactly the same as pasted
ok

Uncomment "dri", "GLcore" and "glx" lines from xorg.conf and try again.

http://rafb.net/p/JBcGjz42.html

Under Section "Module" that is..

the uptimed thing works perfectly now. Thanks again

more errors

poop Your fixed font is missing, or not in your font path

Hello gentooers, Is there any way to install gentoo from usb instead of using the minimal install cd? I mean something like copying the install cd file to the usb and making it bootable (the bootable part is the one i dont know how to doit) . I tried searching the wiki and docs on gentoo web
page, but couldnt find anything, thanks

I want to transfer a large number of files from one machine to the next. they are on a lan. i was thi nking about setting up an ftp server to the receiving end. is this the best way? or should I do something different?

powergoal, that would be the quickest way

your right NeddySeagoon i dont have /usr/share/fonts/misc/fonts.alias

evening NeddySeagoon
evenin all

ok. is there an easy to set up ftp server? I dont intend to use it beyond this purpose

evening edit_21

powergoal, just set something up light

use shh (scp)

ok thanks

powergoal, remeber ftp is *very insecure*

mEEgo–: sorry, I forgot to say; one machine is running windows

powergoal sftp is free with ssh

ssh/scp will be slow though

you could use winscp from a the windows machine to access the files

powergoal get the putty suit for Windows. Its clients only

powergoal, if you not bothered about speed .. rsync would be your best host bet

can i run rsync through putty?

hrm no
not that im aware of
winscp then in that case
but again that will be slow

and it will allow me to write to a java server hosting running a reiserfs disk?

NeddySeagoon where do i add this http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages | line | fixed -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal–20-200-75-75-c-100-iso8859-1 | in xorg.conf?

ill fool around with ftp then. thankyou all for the help

it wont care about FS

ok

scp isn't that slow in my experience

mEEgo–, do u have a floppy drive on the machine u want to install on?

poop Add the path were the font is found to your font path in the files section of xorg.conf. The log (at the top) shows the defualt setting

yes, why ?

AllenJB, it can be very slow

hey i booted up a 32bit livecd and emerge'd lrmi on it

esp with lots of small-large files

poop You must add the defualt and the others to the xorg.conf, if the defualt is not already there

but what is the default

mEEgo–, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_From_Floppy_Without_A_CD-ROM_Drive …

it says i can use vga mode 361 and when i switch to that mode using vbetest, it works. but when i boot into my 64-bit kernel specifying vga=361, i get a blank screen and have to give it the three finger salute to get it to reboot

i have hal working with kde, but it does not mount the floppy correctly

do i have to give it some other options like ywrap and mtrr stuff?

it automounts the floppy, but the ,ountpoint is not the same each time
the first time it will mount to /media/disk

marik, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions

then to /media/disk-1

i have all those fonts in there , they were there when i first opened it

i still there should be a method for installing from usb, floppy are unrealiable. I just dont wont to burn a cd for 1 time use.
Even the guide you posted says "This HOWTO explains how to install Gentoo onto a computer which does not have a CD-ROM drive, cannot do a network boot and cannot use a USB mass storage device for booting purposes" wheres the guide for usb booting then ?

ah i think i see what your saying,, default in /usr/share/fonts/default/ needs to be added

SwiftJim, you're saying that i forgot to add 512?
heh
in which case you would be correct

mEEgo–, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Small_Footprint_Gentoo_on_USB you can do that by booting the liveDVD iso in vmware on your current install following the steps then using that to install from…but that sounds like a
mission

ah g on usb..but i cant write to my usbdrivbe

If i use ubuntu now i can install Gentoo and use ubuntu and gentoo?

SwiftJim, still didn't work

Ivis, yes, you can create the chroot from your ubuntu install and set it up from there

ohh cool
thx

Ha, i'll just burn the cd, Lets see how 2007.0 is doing, havent used gentoo in a long time.

marik, can u paste bin your kernel .config plz

im still confused with this whole font thing

just set dpi higher then 108×108

SwiftJim, how do i upload the entire file?

clear
Sorry

marik, http://rafb.net/paste/

i dont see an option there for an entire file

poop, whats the problem? what did you try?

Can someone help me make ytalk work? It says there is not talk daemon but I have ktalkd

Okay, time to begin the install Good times.

marik, just paste the whole file in the windows
marik, or u can use wgetpate
wgetpaste sorry

ytalk is not really a standard talk daemon, you need to use ytalk with ytalkd

SwiftJim, http://rafb.net/p/U90ups88.txt

sorry i was working and didnt see you ask,,, i tried adding all the fontpaths to xorg.conf like the mention @http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages, but it still wont work, and i cant find any fonts.alias in /usr/share/fonts/misc/
there is a fonts.dir

SwiftJim, ah, ya, might want to set CONFIG_FB
lol

Framebuffer Console support"

ya
i thought i had configured all this stuff
but apparently i hadnt
what's the ywrap,mtrr stuff

why does php 4 require mysql 5 and not mysql4? is that mandatory?

SwiftJim, you know?

i dont know what fonts 'FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"' that line is trying to load so id delete that line from the config

Open Type Fonts

poop, 'emerge mikachan-font-ttf ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-gentium' id do that to emerge the the ttf fonts
poop, emerge mikachan-font-otf for the otf then

i already have ttf-vitstream-vera

ok, issue resiolved. it did require virtual/mysql-4.0
no it is not. still requires mysql5

bitstream*

poop, remove the TTF line in the config and replace it with a line like 'FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera"'

i already did that
it didnt help

ywrap is a way of making the video card scroll quicker, mtrr is a way of accessing the video card memory quicker

so how to know if your graphics card supports these?

replaced otf with /usr/share/fonts/mikachan-font-otf/ ,,, same error

SwiftJim, so how to know if your graphics card supports these?

http://rafb.net/p/qnM6lO51.html

marik, i dont know if the vesa driver supports them… i _think_ it does but i dont use it.. i know the nvidiafb driver supports them. I don't like using that as it messes up accelerated X.

Fieldy? Where is that daemon?

SwiftJim, ya, unless you use nuveau or however you spell it

marik, i dont know about that driver
poop, can u repaste your xorg conf again plz

Hi. I've got one simple question: How can I set an executable in my PATH? atm I get the error 'There is no 'xine' executable in your PATH'

did you try xine-ui, or gxine?

I've allready emerged xine-ui, but not gxine

Hi, why is multilib hard masked in portage/profiles/amd64/2007.0/server ?

But there is one config file where I can set the PATH, isn't it? which one was it?

that error ('there is no xine…') is not the standard 'command not found' so something else is going on

is there an easy way to upgrade all packages in dev-perl/* or so?

Hi is there someone who can help me solve the problem I have with phpmyadmin? #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)

is cfg-update the recommended method of updating now?

sounds like a mysql database services problem

i think so

I have checked my config.inc.php file and the password is there?

i still use etc-update tho :/

I like dispatch-conf since it keeps a copy of old and new files

why won't it work?!!!

Where is ytalkd?

cfg-update is a third party tool. The 2 official tools are etc-update and dispatch-conf. I'd personally recommend dispatch-conf because I find it easier to use, plus it can do backups.

I emerged ytalk but I need a daemon

what is the status of the MULTILIB use flag?

AFAIK you shouldn't touch it. To use multilib you need to use a multilib profile.

yeah, but isn't the default 2007.0 profile multilib?

For amd64, yes it is. I don't know about other archs

mysql works?

oh, okay, thanks. I just went ahead and used etc-update for this first update. But after I have the system up and running, I'll check into dispatch-update

then why does glibc not appear to have it?

multilib is something that's toggled by profile, not USE flags
There are other indicators which the profiles and packages use to determine whether the system is using a multilib profile or not

default-linux/amd64/2007.0/server

Then you're using a multilib profile

emerge -vp glibc says: (-multilib)

Non-multilib amd64 profiles specifically have "no-multilib" in the path

I don't understand ?

The prackets indicate the flag is controlled by the profile.

have you configured and tested mysql?

*brackets

I've created a datebase

It's not something you need to worry about basically.

for mysql

yeah, but it's still -multilib … how can I be sure?

ok, so on the command line you can use the "mysql" tool to talk with the database?

No, it's not. (-USE) means USE is masked (AKA controlled) by the profile
Your system is multilib because you are using a multilib profile (ie. one that doesn't have "no-multilib" in the path

A mysql tool how do you use it ?

how did you create the database?

OHh… :p ok… let me try gcc -m32 and see, thanx.

ok

Does anyone have some idea what might be involved in porting Debian's/Ubuntu's update-grub script to Gentoo?

There are 32-bit precompiled packages in portage you can try too - "mozilla-firefox-bin" is one

has anyone else had problems with udev not populating /dev/dvb frontends with kernel 2.6.20-r8 ?

mostly testing them

Evening all

Go figure. -_-

you should be able to extract those scripts and copy them to a gentoo system

evening

Done that; I'm just wondering what, if anything, it depends on.

darthmarth37, what would be the purpose of such a script? grub reads it's config each boot

When shell scripting is there a way to count the number of lines returned from an awk ?

no.. was just making sure. i'm prepping a server.. and I think i'm gonna need multilib to start setting up Oracle….

I believe it already has it… look at the debianutils package. It may be renamed to something else however, but the kernel's make install uses it

wc ?
wc -l

You are supposed to be able to run that after building a new kernel and it will update grub.conf for you.
Debianutils, eh? I'll look at that.

kryppt not sure what you do ?

heh, my mistake… installkernel is there, but no update-grub. srry

It's in Debian's grub package.

is it just a script?

Any suggestion on how to start a talk daemon for ytalk?

Hmmm… can't run an equery when I'm not on my gentoo box, either. *sigh*
uHmmm… can't run an equery when I'm not on my gentoo box, either. *sigh*/u

mr-angry: what problems are you having?

mr-angry: If you turn that on, you can't turn it off easily.

mr-angry: Have fun with that. It is a great way to learn Linux.

udev isn't populating dvb device nodes

mr-angry: Better to fix the real problem than upset the whole system.

mr-angry: dvb?

tv card

mr-angry: ah. Are you using in-kernel drivers?

mr-angry: How about making just udev ~arch?

it worked before i did an emerge -uD world
that's an idea
i'm using drivers as modules
they worked fine before i did an emerge -uD world. i'm assuming something has upset it
i double checked the drivers, they are all loaded

mr-angry: are they from the kernel sources, or are they from portage? Also, do you remember what was updated?

maybe it's just udev

mr-angry: A lot of things break after you run that emerge. Did you do revdep-rebuild after that?

Yes, that is, if you like learnign Linux instead of being able to use your machine all the time.

ye, i ran that, nothing else seems to have broke, just my dvb.
i'll give udev unstable branch a try
see if that helps

It's worth a shot.
Check up on the drivers, too, though.

Is there any way to know which filesystem is on my HD?
I forgot if I formatted reiser or ext3

Anyone knows how to fix this problem with ffmpeg?

mount / will tell you

/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../libavformat.so: undefined reference to `av_fifo_free'

mount will try to autodetect them for you.

I just did an emerge -uD world and know ffmpeg doesn't work properly

yes, but how do I know ?
ah
found
just mount

easiest method is to just mount it, then look at "mount" output

it lists the FS too.

I also tried to compile a very simple application and when I link it to libavcodec/libavformat I get that error

if udev doesn't work, i'll try going back to previous kernel

yeah, it was already mounted.

I made a revdep-rebuild but ffmpeg doesn't appear in the list of broken libs

who owns libavformat, and did you try rebuilding that app?

Is there a log of what happens at boot time (init script wise, not kernel)?

ldd -v -r /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../libavformat.so should help you along

I have a problem with i3945 that I need to identify.

in /etc/conf.d/rc is RC_BOOTLOG, that needs to be set to yes

libavformat comes with ffmpeg. I also made a very simple application (just the main funcion with a return 0 inside) and when I link it to libavformat and libavcoded I get that error

oops …

eatnumber1, thaks
thx

thanks, now I think i should rebuild some library to get ffmpeg working again

elvanor_, you'll probably also need the package listed in the BOOTLOG notes

some library ffmpeg depends on is probably broken. revdep-rebuild *may* pick it up

Where will the file be saved? the log?

HILFE … kann mir jemand aus meinem Gentoo-Problem helfen?

ich schlage #gentoo.de vor

in #gentoo-de vielleicht, hier nur in englisch

hi

when I run that command, a list of libs appear and then I get some error messages about undefined functions. The problem is caused by one of that libs?

does it say what libraries the undefined functions are in?
if not, then google for the undefined functions, and find out what packages provide them

i have a grub quietion. what root (..) should i type if i haeve a Gentoo on /hda4?

not sure where it will be saved, but according to the comment in /etc/conf.d/rc, you need to install showconsole. Maybe that will allow you to configure the location of the log file

libavcodec.so and libavformat.so but both are from ffmpeg and I rebuilt it many times, but in the lib list I found a library that I emerged yesterday

what library? Also, what are the names of the functions that are undefined?

i have a grub quietion. what root (hd.,..) should i set if i have a Gentoo on /hda4?

grub starts counting at zero

and what rootnoverify if Windows at /hda1 ?

grub starts counting at zero

it doesn't always go in the same order, but you probably want hd0,0 and hd0,3

I think the library is causing this is libXdmcp. There are many undefined functions

thanks

is there a howto to install gentoo into a chroot on debian?

I don't imagine it would be very different than installing normally

just untar one of the stages and chroot?

I don't see libXdmcp in the dependency graph for ffmpeg, but by all means, try reinstalling

I keep getting '[ebuild NSF ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.15 USE="alsa -X -doc -examples -jce -nsplugin" 35,526 kB'. Any ideas?

as long as you have a partition to put it on that is not in use, there *shouldn't* be any problems

Even though I unmergd .14

what are you doing to get that? emerge -uD world?

uav
uavDN*
Avtuallty, if I just update it, it gives me a new vcersion

anyone tried rlocale?

do you mean rlocate?

eatnumber1, oh, yes, sorry

I use it

eatnumber1, nice?

Same thin, any ideas?

I like it better than slocate, but it does need a kernel module… and also probably slows down IO on the system
are you trying to remove java 1.4 from your system?

No

I rebuilt Xdmcp and ffmpeg but still doesn't work. But I also found more libraries that I emerged yesterday so I'm going to rebuild them.

you may need to remerge ffmpeg before it starts working again (if that was the problem)
then I'm not understanding what you are trying to do

I'm simply trying to update world

and it's pulling in java web hosting 1.4… so?

It says F unsatisfied

I reemerge ffmpeg every time I rebuild a library

Hi
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when it gets to emerging that, the emerge will fail and it will tell you where to go to download the distfile. you then put it in /usr/portage/distfiles, and emerge –resume and it should work fine

Perfect, thank you.

ok, then that wasn't the problem. In that case, could you pastebin the output of the command I gave you
any moderators paying attention?

yes

thank you

I can't right now. Firefox and Konqueror not working.

you can use nopaste. just emerge nopaste, and pipe it into nopaste

For future reference you can report issues to #gentoo-ops

I didn't know that

ah, didn't know that… thanks

before that I'm going to rebuild some libs. Do you know which library owns libdl.so?

glibc

shit…

language …

sorry

lol

Lies! There is only one true timezone! GMT forever! =P

if you have portage-utils installed, qfile [filename] should tell you what package owns that file

AllenJB Its 24 hours in your timezone

[1;34m
* sys-libs/glibc-2.5-r4
[0m current merge time: [1;32m2[0m minutes and [1;32m37[0m seconds.
[1;32m37[0m minutes and [1;32m22[0m seconds.
Sorry

and qlist [pkg] will tell you what files a package owns

wow, I didn't know that! thanks
more libraries rebuilt, ffmpeg still doesn't work

waninkoko Do you have USE="mmx" ?

yes

waninkoko turn it off for ffmpeg only

ok, i will try

also, when you get a chance, please nopaste the output of ldd

http://rafb.net/p/NAPA8K88.html ?

waninkoko use /etc/portage/package.use

I need more output than that to debug the problem

waninkoko, put media-video/ffmpeg -mmx in /etc/portage/package.use

nonsq, post /var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt-3.17/temp/build.log and maybe we can figure it out

http://rafb.net/p/RwUJ8J26.html

nonsq, we need to see the actual error - not just the "It broke" message

fellas, i hear ya. hold on.
http://rafb.net/p/YOeEUO64.html

with -mmx ffmpeg still doesn't work

waninkoko pastebin the error log please

what version of ffmpeg are you installing?

quick question.. is it possible to start aplications on my running X server through a ssh connection?

what version of qt do you have installed?

when I link an app with libavcodec/libavformat, I get the same errors that are shown in the link I posted above
ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070616-r1
I also tried stable version

sure, DISPLAY=:0 appname should do it if you are logged in as the same user

eatnumber1, 4.2.3.

thank you very much

waninkoko, what does emerge ffmpeg -pv show … just the flag settings

this is just a guess, but I think pyqt needs qt-3.x
I seem to have both installed on my machine

USE="X a52 aac amr encode mmx* network ogg oss sdl theora threads truetype v4l vorbis x264 xvid zlib (-altivec) -debug -doc -ieee1394 -imlib -test"

are you sure it's that way?
i get an error "unnable to connect to X server"

waninkoko so you are about to add mmx back in ?

is the X server running? is it logged in?

It's just that I forgot to add -mmx in package.use

it's running yes

is it logged in?

ever since i upgraded to kernel 2.6.20, ettercap doesn't want to work. It says something about the iptables module missing, and i modprobe it everything. Yet it still says that

waninkoko, have yuo been building other stuff with cammand line USE or ACCEPT … or anything else like that ?

do you have iptables? emerge iptables

yeah i have iptables

you have iptables support in kernel?
netfilter

yes, yesterday
and a lot of packages

yes, jacekowski, in the error in ettercap it says iptables can't initialize table "nat
Table does not exist

recompile kernel

i just did = )
didnt fix anything

hi again

you enabled "full NAT"?

not sure if idd

is it right grub configuration, if Gentoo in /hda4 and Windows in /hda1 ? http://rafb.net/p/MgwlZB11.html

how would i check

I'm compiling glibc, will my system still boot if I cancel it?

iptables -t nat -L

yes
as long as it's not done and in the middle of actually instalilng the new version

Alright. So do the changes only occur once the compile is complete?

and try modprobe ip_nat
and modprobe iptables_nat

table does not exist

and modprobe iptable_nat

gentoo, root (0,5) = hda6 i believe

otherwise, all the new stuff is still in /var/portage/[some_where]

Alright, genlop shows I have 20 minutes to do.

yes

waninkoko, its a bad habit that usually leads to broken systems. Portage cannot track command line system setup changes

Thanks

yes, the "compile" but not necessary the install itself. If it gets to the install stage (the very last thing) and you interrupt that, you could end up unstable

grknight, are You sure if Windows at /dev/hda1 ?

Perfect, thanks

are you logged in remotely as the same user that is logged in locally?

jacekowski it didnt find any of those modules

only if you cancel at merge to filesystem phase this can mess something

gentoo, that's just grubs numbering.. (0,0) = hda1 (0,3) = hda4

yup

oops, my bad, which configuration if Windows at /dev/hda1 ?
grknight, ok, thank you
so Gentoo hd0,3?

what was the output of DISPLAY=:0 xterm?

iptables -t nat -L

gentoo, should be

Looks like I finally I broke my system I'm going to rebuild more deps and see if I get ffmpeg working again

gentoo, and fix the splash line too

Anyone know of a motherboard that has an integrated hardware RAID-5 controller for 4-6 SATA-II drives so I don't have to buy a discrete PCI-Express card?

Thank You

yea, I've been thinking about it and I'm pretty stumped too

Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)

lymeca, 90% of onboard RAID doesn't do anything but smile at you

recompile kernel

I'm suspecting of glibc

lymeca, you're better off with the PCI-e one

i did a few minutes ago, it didnt solve the error
maybe theres a nat option in the kernel?

So the 10% exists? There are solutions that are actual real dedicated HW RAID processors onboard?

why is that?

lymeca, sure.. if you want a $250 motherboard

WOOHOOOO
problem solved

real onboard raid only exists on some excessively expensive tyan boards

waninkoko, post the complete error log

buenas

I highly doubt that you will find an integrated hardware raid controller. You may be able to find a hybrid raid controller (mine has one) but I highly doubt you'll find hardware raid

best solution I've found is linux software raid - cheap, fast, easy to manage

sw ftw!

My problem was caused by a package of an overlay. I unemerged it and all works.

great! congrats!

I'm okay with a board that expensive… a lot of the pci-express RAID cards I'm looking at that can support ~6 SATA-II drives in RAID-5 are like $300-$400 alone

waninkoko well done!

software raid is arrays will work on any linux kernel, motherboard onboard raid arrays don't work on any motherboard.

is there any tool to allow me to draw on a pdf document?

lymeca, thats why you normally find fakeraid 'onboard'

same goes for hardware raid controllers

It's strange, it was a binary package that includes its owns libavcodec and libavformat but those libs were installed in a separate folder

likewhoa, are you the dude from diy-street.com?

yea

Samba is crashing… might be as a result of a failure in a router… is there a way to get samba to recover?

cool

If a package is not keyworded for my arch at all, can i fix that without changing the ebuild? package.keywords does not seem to work.

flpsed is vaguely related but that's the closest I can find

add it with **

anyone use any visio like apps?
i can't recall the one available

Open Office

gentoo user?

inkscapre?
inkscape I mean

lesshaste il'l look into that
thx, someone mentioned in here sometime a while back, forgot

all:

stoile you would put in -* and it should install

What do you mean "onboard raid arrays don't work on any motherboard"?

Gentoo rulezz

likewhoa, yep

I think he means you can't easily migrate one to a different motherboard

those arrays are not compatible with other boards..

So i basically do not add the keyword the package should be but the keyword i want to be for the package?

so if you created an array on one board and wanted to take those arrays to another it won't work..

stoile if its not masked with your arch, means the arch testers aren't testing it, i think u can write to the group and they will add the unstable keyword for your arch

with linux software raid it will as long as the kernel you're on supports RAID.

hardware raid however is faster than software raid

stoile if i remember correctly say it was app-admin/sudo that has missing keyword mask, then u would add app-admin/sudo -* and it should emerge, but its use at ur own risk, prob mad buggy

I'm kind of an arch tester, only never did this before.

Yeah that's why I want HW raid

not 100% true

how so?

Thanks a lot.

what does 'Undefined Device "nvidia" referenced by Screen "Screen 1" mean when trying to startx?

however unless you have some specific needs, software raid is usually a better choice

stoile heh, so there you go, u let the guy managing the arch tester that ur adding that package, and then they will add it to the unstable, being tested , if ur ppc then it'll work with ~ppc ; i think just means no one is testing now

look at the benchmarks.

stoile what arch are you on

i rather keep my critical data on an opensource array instead of being locked in on some crazy firmware.

theoretically, it should be faster… in benchmarks, there can be too many mitigating factors

plus only the new really expensive controllers support raid6.

and I agree, that I prefer the compatibility to the speed. Software raid in my opinion is the way to go

At the moment ppc and ppc64, but i'm not working for the arch, but for the package. It's summer of code stuff.

software is prob the cheapest solution

hardware raid was also good back in the day when pcs were slows now a days with raid5,6 the cpu handles the xor calculations etc..

stoile awesome dude,! i'm on a ppc and i have a ppc64, but not on it at the moment, stuck with unixODBC compiling, but will work on that this weekend

and safest most relaible and cross platform compatible

likewhoa hardware raid might be faster, but probably for most needs might be okay? i'm relatively new to it, i have a dell server at my shop with a perc 5/i controlle,r pretty zippy, for all my stuff at home, using software raid
not so bad at all

also with linux software raid, you don't even need a raid controller

you can run linux host sw raid on IDE drives or a dozen floppy drives, whichever makes you happy.

"fake raid" doesn't mean bad raid
yes, whatever makes us happy

omg I'm an idiot, why didn't I think of that?

fakeraid however needs some hardware support

Hey

lymeca, look at something like http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=163 but be prepared for a good wallet hit on the RAM and processor (and good luck finding a CPU fan for them)

stoile i'm trying to squeeze out everything on my dual 500 ppc g4

ooh, software raid on 12 floppies

lol kojiro i'm been gathering floppy drives for a raid6 array of 1000 strong

likewhoa lo

I thought you could only have 255 USB devs

Ok, It seems to me that the 'user' option in fstab isn't working.

do you have defaults after it?

well i was gonna use samba shares, lol
omg j/k

hahaha

lol

No, its before it
/dev/pendrive /mnt/pendrive ext3 defaults,user 0 0
Thats the fstab line

My iBook kinnd of died, i'm working remote on some machine.

No clue why it wont work. -_-
but mount -fv doesn't show the 'user' thing

question i am trying to setup a web server to test stuff on but for some reason it does not seem to want to run my cgi scripts is there something i need to set some where?

lymeca, i've only ever seen SAS controllers onboard that have real HW raid

can you do mount /mnt/pendrive as a normal user?

Nope

you probably need to tell your server which directories allow binaries to run as CGI

Thats the problem
must be superuser to use mount

anyidea where i would look for that or what to look for?

apache? Options ExecCGI?

isn't that "users" ?

yeah apache

It can be either or

add that to your vhost directive.

'user' means only that user can unmount it, users means any user can unmount it

what likewhoa said, in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf probably

Neither worked

when I try to run inkscape I get

Damn, I don't think I need 8 SAS PLUS 6 SATA-II. I mean I want at least 6 SATA-II for my RAID-5… but I think I only need one or two SAS for my small drive that will have Xen + Gentoo/SLackware/Debian

error while loading shared libraries: libatkmm-1.6.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
raph@localhost ~/docs/cpm2007 $ su -

revdep-rebuild

ok i will try to look for where that is and add it

do you have read access to /dev/pendrive?

that never helps

hi

try emerge dev-libs/atk

As far as I can tell

thanks

drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jul 6 2007 pendrive
It use to be my user, looks like sudo mount changed it

that only allows read and execute permissions for all

I see

setup a udev rule for it.

like…

what's the difference between pdf2ps and pdftops?

ATTRS{serial}=="0000060327092852", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]1", OWNER="giles", GROUP="giles", SYMLINK="pendrive"
Thats what I have to symlink it to /dev/pendrive

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Customizing_UDEV

however the OWNER and GROUP dont seem to take effect

add MODE="" line
fill in desire permission.

where is where is the log of the boot files?

Also, the rule I posted is in 70-local does thayt matter?

of the init script ?

/var/log

boot.msg ?

should i compile iptables as a module or into the kernel?

you run udevcontrol reload_rules & udevstart after?

yes

hey

yo

udevstart?
Isn't just reload_rules enough?
if not this explains everything. X_X

no

no, it's not

eatnumber1 yes i shoudl compile into the kernel, or yes i should make into module?

Son of a nutcracker!

you need to restart udev with udevstart
the other command just reload the rules set.

yes as in, in most cases, it doesn't matter

that is up to you, does not really matter

thanks for not cursing, lol

udevstart still hasn't returned…

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Customizing_UDEV some good reading

fun

wish mzbot was here.

Still wants me to be a superuser to mount it

do you have write access to it however?

What one?
the node or the mount dir?
The good news is, the thing appears to be setting the owner to me! \o/

whoareyou?

ok, so you have write access to it (I meant the device)

Oh
Yep, got write

this is my first time trying to install gentoo. i tried using the livecd but when it starts the installation (step 1 of 5) and tries to unpack everything it always freezes up on the 20th package (out of 116). is it just a corrupt cd?

exceL-charlEs[y7: what is the error message if any?

there is none, it just hangs there and everything stops responding

whats the difference ebtween vanilla-, mm-, gentoos-sources ?

Why does it seem I always get the strange peoblems noone can figure out? _

sona_, read the handbook

I need 2.6.22_rc1 to compile iwlwifi so I need to change from gentoo-sources to mm or vanilla-sources, which one and why ?

vanilla the full kernel, mm is Andrew Morton's kernel, gentoo-sources is Gentoo's own kernel… use gentoo-sources.
did you add the MODE line to your udev rule?

how can i parse a txt file line by line for a variable with a shell script ?

Oh yeah, any idea what mode I would need
640?

i have got some problem
(chroot) livecd / # grub-install /dev/hda
Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.

666

gemntoi can help u

I'm trying to watch an video off my TV using either CRT-out (the TV has a normal display connector) or s-video-out. Using an HP laptop with an ATI card & drivers. The problem is that the whole picture won't fit on TV screen, but some part of it is always missing and it needs to be
scrolled (with mouse). Is there a way to force it to show everything, even if not in scale?

okey, you guys know of any third party ebuilds for 2.6.22_rc1 ?

mount /boot?

gentoo i can help u

does debugging info make stuff execute noticeably slower or just use of more memory

gentoo, whats your boot partition?

why?

sona_, what do u mean?

XMetal, hda2

I need it to compile iwlwifi

gentoo, and your root partition /?

look at the sys-kernel tree

XMetal, hda4

http://rafb.net/p/Y9CLha13.html

there are no ebuilds to satisfy "=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.
(dependency required by "net-wireless/iwlwifi-0.0.35-r1" [ebuild])

ok
Gentle, type on terminal grub
gentoo, type on terminal grub as root

and now?

gentoo, then root (hd0,1) (thats hda2)

2.6.21-r3 is the latest

No luck. :/

gentoo, and setup (hd0) (thats hda)
gentoo, what happened?

XMetal, done
XMetal, thank you

gentoo, now quit =P
gentoo, not at all
=P

hehe:P

Before you get too distracted.
A friend of mine spent too much time on irssi when installing
perhaps a more minimalistic client should be included?

please advise some function irc client?…
console client

irssi

i doing the instalation by installer GTK + and the install stops when unpacking pearl, on unpacking tarball… what can i do to solve this without connect? i have the stage3 on a pendrive mounted ..

it support unicode?

Not sure?

can someone tell me how i can download this file

My boot.msg does not contain the full trace…

ed2k://|file|C++ GUI Programming with Qt 4.chm|6358317|9BE8EB3A8E4C3BF88486DED5F57133A4|/

yes i think

it is ed2k:// ???
what kind of protocol should this be ?

thnx

Well, the drive is assigned to me

welcome

IT JUST WONT MOUNT!

How can I obtain a full trace log of what happens at boot time (init scripts)?

Magic?

dmesg gives you a lot of info

dmesg is only for kernel msgs
I need output from init scripts

i cant install my gentoO!

Why not?

/var/log/messages maybe?

the installer dont work

I see

?

Manual instillation is better.

nikolavp, yes it's ed2k
nikolavp, emerge amule

quick easy question, how do I get a more up-to-date package?

SeligGentoo, fowllign him

i dont know for sure also elvanor_

i have it
but how can i download it with it ?

Oh
What part you failing at?

nikolavp, paste this url into the search window

unpack stage tarball…

I see
The tarball may have been currupted during the download

SeligGentoo, i tried do with the stage3 from cd… and now trying to do with a pen drive

the wine I installed is only 0.9.29, and I want 0.9.4 how can I get that?

I have afew problem at boot time, first thing that is strange is that udev initiates some kernel module loading

SeligGentoo, what can i do ?

How can I prevent that?

Hmm

guys, how do i tell apart split ebuilds from monolithic kde ebuilds?

I dont know. :/

elvanor_, thanks

SeligGentoo, ty

for instance, do i emerge kdebase-meta instead of kdebae?