… could just make a lot of cookies

i dont know… cookies were just not made for that… why dont you use the file upload mechanism

right now i" using red5

(I just realized that last night and am updating my page)

red5? what's that

the goal is webcam upload with no software installed client side

I think it staying very hard to run…

I'm not sure I follow.

I need to go…

HI I'm having problems with the mail in php 5

Since flash can't create files on the users computer (for security reasons) red5 processes video sent by the user as it is recorded and published

HI I'm having problems with the mail in php webhosting 5

Right now I'm trying to automark the watermarking process.
But every time I try to use ffmpeg I lose sound.

the only thing about that site is that they don't encrypt the password with md5() or similar - it should be stored encrypted in the database

hi. i am trying to use php to send the user a rtf file upon loading of the page. firefox reads it properly - asks if the user wants to download the file / save it. IE , however, loads the file onto the page instead of treating it as a file. i've already used application/rtf in the header.
what should i do?

HI I'm having problems with the mail in php 5?

alexseif give more info
Tryblithe there is another header let me check it out

I'm having a problem with the mail function, when I add the "from" header.. it doesn't work. It juts says nobody@(thedomain)

mail(): Failed to connect to mailserver at "localhost" port 25, ve

Tryblithe Content-Disposition…

rify your "SMTP" and "smtp_port" setting in php.ini or use ini_set() in Cwww\w
orkspace\b^2_(Bulle14932611720\b2-0.6.2\include\include.php on line 427
rolfen I get this warning

Tryblithe header("Content-disposition: attachment") would force the file to download

I downloaded this source from the internet but its not functioning correctly because of my settings with the mail

oooh….
got it.thanks rofen
*rolfen

np

I don't understand there is nothing wrong with the code as fasr as I can tell
rolfen can u hel me

hey guys.. is it possible to tell smarty to display a string instead of a template file?

alexseif i think you need to properly setup the script that you downloaded

has anyone ever had this problem

yes the installer works automatically but it doesn't get to parse it since there is an error

alexseif i'm assuming you're not running an SMTP server on your localhost

where to find the path used for sessions in php.ini ! how is called ?

is there any way to create a sort of "background" process
where it polls something every second or so
whilst the main loop runs

how do i make it so if they r already logged in it doesnt show the Sign In link but says Welcome, $Username

ooh thats possible let me check apache
thanx

diafic i think there is
alexseif the problem is not in apache

then what

diafic on linux or windows?

its set in my php

linux

smtp localhost
port 25

alexseif replace localhost with your smtp server

I'm totally blank
can you explain

diafic you have to see Process Control Functions but it's pretty complicated

what is my smtp server

rolfen, linky?

alexseif you can get that setting from outlook or whatever mail client you use

rolfen you seem like putting fires everywhere so If you can give me something to read I'd waist less of your time
I don't use a mail client

anyone in here ever use filter_input_array?

you mean like gmails

diafic dont have one… i am using the CHM PHP documentation… see the documentation on php.net … Process Control functions begin with pcntl_
but they're pretty complex to use
alexseif gmail uses a secure SMTP server, i dont think that would be compatible with your script

ok I think I know what I'm supose to be doing here

I have acces problems under Win with sesson vars …sess_40l5vresjcvmtb69mqjhnbmgu1, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) What rights should I allow

hi, where can i find documentation about the operator ??

if i have a string that has 0-9/a-z/ and all sorts of chars in it how do i echo just 0-9 from it?

is there a way to output variables when using echo MYEOFTXT ?

how do i make it so if they r already logged in it doesnt show the Sign In link but says Welcome, $Username

diafic maybe you can do that through popen too

if ($_SESSTION['loggedin']) {echo "welcome " . $_EWiz_KeeD: ma duc la casco sa-mi bag pula )))))
da-te in zloboz

use regexp ?

if ($_SESSTION['loggedin']) {echo "welcome " . $_session['user']} else {login form}
that's it sorry…
rocketmagnet more info pls…function or smth?

mom

with $_GET vars (int) works…why don't it here?

Hy everybody

rocketmagnet?

$string="13189";
$treffer=preg_match("/^\d{5}$/",$string);
print $treffer;
\d stands for [0-9]

string contain all sorts of stuff and i want just the numbers in it
if string would allready contain just numbers then that woulden't ave been a problem

warnings headers already sent

hello

rocketmagnet?

hello
i have a question about encryption

the fastes would be for($i=0; $istrlen($yourdata); $i++) { $afinal = array(); if(is_alpha(yourdata[$i])) push($i, $afinal); }
something like this

i have google'd a lot and i find lots of programs that obfuscate php web hosting code

push? haha )

g encoder is a god obfuscate php code

is that really faster then using a regex expression?

yes
much faster

but what i need to know if something exists some php script that generates encrypted html

aayala do you get any message before "warning headers sent"?

and no other faster method?

i haven't found anything with that idea

not rolfen

can someone tell me how how I can copy and paste text from a windows window to a terminal window?

tell me this…if the number is encapsulated int ( ) if i can rely on that is there a faster way?

look at this: http://home.versatel.nl/MAvanEverdingen/Code/

in*

this also allows encryption of the complete html file and also the images !!
or http://www.henk-reints.nl/jscript/index.htm which i prefer

aayala headers have to be the first thing sent to the browser. warnng headers sent means that something has already be sent to the browser
an echo or an error message or something

rocketmagnet?

rolfen, are there user-settable Signals?

don't realy understand what you mean
back in a few minutes

iknow but in the php4 i can do that before the first sent to the broser sorry i not good to speach o write in english

diafic… i dont understand.. what are you tring to do actually?

example htmlheader() works 4 me in php4

So when I do, say kill -33 mypid, the php does something based on the signal (33)

printf ("\"./directory=%d\"", $entry_url
what would be an easy way to make %d output a random number

i know suposse that dosent work

aayala that should never work…

but its work for me using php4 hosting i think is something in php.ini

can someone tell me how how I can copy and paste text from a windows window to a terminal window?

no, it really will not work

rolfen thanx I got it fixed

aayala, if output_buffering is on it will work
but that is not a good thing normally

alexseif cool

exactly Qube

diafic i dont know… i'm checking that out

how can i active in php5 ?

paste with my scroll button on mouse into terminal
Console

like, I want to set my own signals, so I can send my own signals (and reactions) myself

diafic thats not possible with php

diafic but what are you actually trying to do… there may be an easier way to do it

rolfen, an interupt.

can you explain?

or even just a background polling process

use perl
SIG handling

MrWilson, do be quiet.

thanks Qube

why do i bother heh

I am NOT learning perl just to do some minor thing
:/
I don't know why either, MrWilson

diafic so you want to run a php script as a daemon

i restart apache using output_buffering and work

and have it catch signals?

back

I'm trying to get my main thread to run, with another loop polling for changes in $buffer
its a socket buffer

if you want to screw one screw in - that's a minor thing, but you still wouldn't use the wrong tool for the job would you?

what a good text,email,num, validation pecl or pear?

?

hi all

and because the server could send a message at any point
I want it to poll the buffer fairly regularly.

diafic well you can fork a php host script

have you looked into pcntl_signal()

how could i get a php script to intercept all exe files linked to, to make them go through a new script?

MrWilson, yep.

LucnetBenji i dont get your quesiton

will explain in a sec

huh? lol

http://uk3.php.net/pcntl_signal

I was thinking that already

that explains it pretty well

yep, read that
I need to find a signal I can use for this

what signal?

basiclty

I tried using "33" because its vacant… didn't like it

terminate , restart?
so ur sending the signal via the OS?

i want to write an addon for phproxy so that whenever a certain extension is clicked on, it runs the extension through another script
how would i make it do this?

MrWilson, yeah, for the moment

anyone in here use pecl-filter?

use the script on the php page
and add a case for "33"

LucnetBenji depeds on phprpoxy. i dont know phpproxy internals

I did that
pcntl_signal(): Error assigning signal in /home/matthew/sites/cynix.info/OC/client/start.php on line 29

hm anyone in here know the internals of php proxy?

and no, I am NOT running it on a webserver

what does sign 33 actually call?

its just the name of the directory

sig*

It was vacant
32 and 34 were in use
33 is empty.

LucnetBenji did you try to go through the code yourself and understand it?

why are you using signals tho

we don't support 3rd party scripts here,

no was just wondering if there was a common way of doing it

signals are slow and not really used unless its external to the prog such as restarting itself
in perl its a simple line if $SIG['33'] { }
then pass that back to php

when multiple scripts are acting on the same file, do i need to lock them also if i'm only reading ?

no rocketmagnet

normaly not or am i wrong ?

i looked that page but it looks like it's javascript, so not related to php
do you know if php can generate that encryption from server?

md5()
sha()

the second one include a php/javascript/flash HRC4, or look in google for RC4

hash() PRAEDO

but dont use encrption just cause u can
cause im my expereince its more trouble than its worth

but your client must encrypt it
decrypt.. sry

what are you trying to encrypt/hash ?

i want that all visitors can see the pages but not the source code

now why would you want to do a thing like that?

PRAEDO how would they see the source code?

i have tested several windows programs that can encrypt html and javascript, but i want to do it from the server
instead of using the windows program each time for each file

hurruh
I have something semi-working

maybe some apache module that works with php exists

PRAEDO you want your clients not to see your source code you mean?

why do you want to block people from seeing the _HTML_ source?

you MUST do it with the server, otherwise its no problem to decrypt

PRAEDO … your customers?

PRAEDO

the only thing worth hidding is javascript code… but html ?

php wont do that

oh i get it… you dont want them to see your HTML code

why javascript?
why hide anything,

i want my visitors to see the pages but not the html code

c2c2c.ca/page.php random page script working but the way idid it is kinda wonky lol if i knew a better way i would use it

we know, by _why_ do you want to do that
what will you gain, and what will your users gain by doing that? nothing.

the reason is that i don't want them to know what files the javascript calls

OH NOES CODE THEFT

i also don't want to hide my stuff… but if you are working on a longer project with javascript it's nice that it can stay MY code…

so security through obscurity.
heh

i talked about html but in fact i meant javascript

if they really want to… they will PRAEDO

if the user is using the javascript code anyway - what does blocking them from seeing it do?

any good example of spl recursive iterator out theare?

i want to hide all javascript that php echoes

for javascript there is the packer from Dean Edwarts

no matter how you encrypt it

you can't, it's a stupid idea anyway

jojojo
include 'fire.ic';

http://joliclic.free.fr/php/javascript-packer/en
^^

it's not stupid, i've been doing this for many time and thanks to this no one could see what files we use in our project
i'm currently using html guardian, which encrypts javascript nicely
but i have to encode each file using the windows program

PRAEDO i bet i can get you all the files if you give me the link

i wonder if the apache server can do it
you can't, all html is encrypted

you just need my last link

PRAEDO this is such thing as paranoia
end of the day ur sending the data to the browser

indeed it is

PRAEDO wanna bet?

but js code can work on it on the client side…

now no matter what u encrpyt it in
the brower has to decrypt it to read it

PRAEDO ever heard about a deobfuscator?

that's the main problem

www.tramuntana.tv
this is the page

!+u

Surely you mean 'you', not 'u'? The letter 'u' is not a personal pronoun. Talking like this in ##php may get you silenced. For details, /msg php-bot aolbonics

javascript can be decrypted with escape()

ok

oh dear, blocking right click as well?

press ctrl + v in ur webapge

right, say I run this:

that bypasses right click protection

php somescript.php 12345
how can I "catch" 12345 from that?

man, give up on hiding everything and stop controlling the user - if I want to view your HTML source code - I will, if I want to right click - I will.

hey what did i say!

rolfen, you can try to see the code of tramuntana.tv

What did the bot said?

all you'll get is things like:
scripteval(unescape('\146\165n\143\164\151o%6E%2……………..

thats not "secure".

PRAEDO ok not that easy but i'm tyring

thats trivial to undo.

*trying

trying what?

anyone got a clue?

why, why stop people from viewing the html - why stop them from right clicking? people are not going to crack into your server just because they can "right click" or "View the source code" now are they?

lol
PRAEDO i got it
http://www.tramuntana.tv/template_css.css
http://www.tramuntana.tv/windowfiles/dhtmlwindow.css

those are just style sheets

crap, someone knows what you use in your site! run! hide!

what i'm protecting are the video files

does someone know if i can add variables inside a echo EOFMYTEXT sometext ….. EOFMYTEXT; ?

end of the day it dosent matter how well YOU encrypt your page if someone wants your data they will get it

hehe, I like the way he keeps saying "protecting"

javascript calls video files that i want to keep secret from downloading

why? if you want it this secret don't put it on the net .

mmm

indeed

PRAEDO, haha, I've always found that SILLY

then allow them only for certain users(script) ?

D: D: D

by encrypting my aim is not avoiding to be hacked at all… what i what is avoiding to see what javascript does
uby encrypting my aim is not avoiding to be hacked at all… what i what is avoiding to see what javascript does/u

why, does your site secretly take data from me?

PRAEDO http://www.tramuntana.tv/divx_TTV_2A/Frilab_2A_0_0.divx

thats not encyption

is that it?

thats just lame

PRAEDO … so?

is your code doing something very nasty that you want to keep secret?

How can I catch "12345" in this example: "php ./somescript.php 12345"

javascript is pointless in encrypting data because it can decrypt just asa easily :/

$argv

use CLI

var_dump( $argv );

thats like mircs $encode and $decode

CommandLineInterface

my videos aren't a secret, i just don't want people to see the javascript calling each one of them

ta ^^

why, is it some magic super-cool innotive code that is so amazing you must hide it?

you can always use htaccess to forbid access

hi, is there a command to make abitrary mathematic calculations like "0×53+3"?

or if your that worried put it as activex so its compiled :/

http://www.tramuntana.tv/divx_TTV_2A/Frilab_2A_0_0.divx
file not found

cos you just deleted it? it was there before

$answer = "0*53";

AlexC_, yes, the way javascript works is innovative, i don't want it to be public

$answer = $answer + 3;

of course,

PRAEDO i'm downloading it it's 1.8 megs

can php do it?

what do you mean file not found

give up =D
take up knitting

PRAEDO an you have no idea how easily i found it… that's hilarious

you could find that because it's the main one
not the others in the lower part of the page

I've heard there are some good safe's you can store the things you knit in - no one will ever be able to find out

mm
PRAEDO there are other movies to find?

sounds like a challenge

PRAEDO i dont see any other movie on the page though

if you really don't want people viewing files - then _why_ are you putting inside the Document root?!
if you want no one to see them, so they will not ever get served by apache - place them outside of the document root

each window with a photo calls a video to be loaded at the upper script
upper screen

PRAEDO ok i'll check that out

I've noticed some websites manage to have addresses like blah.com/somepage?option=foo instead of blah.com/somepage.php?option=foo - how is this done?

they must be inside document root to be played as divx
i want people to view them, not download them

Okay that will be more complicated and take more time

if people can view them - why not let them download?

just be patient

can you stop me from getting a screen-recorder and capturing the entire length of the movie?

no but he can do all what is in his power to stop you

i avoid excessive traffic

$_GET I think, maxo

microsoft-ish approach

the idea is that files are view-only
i don't want people to save them to be played on other pages

sorry my question wasn't clear. what I mean is that instead of somepage.php?option=foo , they have somepage?option=foo - ie. the '.php' is missing. how is that done?

but I can still capture it with a screen-recorder

maxo ive told you this already
mod_rewrite

or even play them from my server using param names from other pages of them
that's what i want to avoid

look for scripts with .php and remove the .php

then stop people from hot-linking via Apache

and that's what i acccomplish using encryption
it works so far, so this is not what i'm asking

hi

i ask if there is a way for php to encrypt javascript

no, you accomplished nothing, just annoying the user - and that _is_ ba.

anyone know if suphp etch package work with php5 and apache 2.2?

and no one answered that question yet

why don't you just use the divx player and embed that on a web page?

only you ask why i do it, which is just a matter inside the policy of my business

how do i get the DOM explorer extension for firefox

if you ask how to jump off a bridge - will people tell you how, or try and talk to you so you don't do it?

is there is a way for php to encrypt javascript?

what good is that?

javascript is read on the client side, so the user can do what they like with it, ie. disable it
the best example of a site which serves a lot of divx files is stage6.divx.com , have a look at what they do there

also people who have javascript disabled will just see a blank page

maxo, this is what i do

I know but I've looked all over the internet and I don't see how mod_rewrite can do it

i play divx files using that divx web player

IT LIVES

#apache

thanks all
mod_rewrite is lovely

you re-write foo?bar=car to foo.php?bar=car
forget the query string - you just want to re-write foo to foo.php

Darn the DOM inspector is not available for firefox 2.0.0.5

yes but mod_rewrite doesn't like question marks. and the problem is I want it to redirect foo?bar=car to index.php?page=foo&additionalstuffafterthequestionmarklikebar=car

ah i know…

yes it does,
there is a paramter to sent a long all query strings

is there is a way for php to encrypt javascript?

PRAEDO hold on 5 minutes i'll give you an url to a movie

s/sent/send
pop into #apache - seriously, it will takes 2 lines of code and you'll be done

http://www.tramuntana.tv/divx_TTV_2A/Frilab_2A_1_64.divx

rolfen, it's easy to guess them now changing the numbers from the main one

no not really

is it possible to capture what link was clicked on and then act on it in realtime?

I have been in there, and it's totally dead, and since I keep coming across so many php sites that are able to do this, I thought someone here might know

AJAX

k

PRAEDO all i have to do is select a movie then get the url to that movie by checking the squid logs

it's an apache thing man, gah - hold on, I'll be nice and even do it for you!

squid?

PRAEDO okay… not everyone has squid… but i could still find a way if i didnt

rolfen and the thing is, if someone really wanted to see what files you have - they will get and do anything they can

it's a matter of time it would take about 10 minutes… but not everyone wants to spend 10 minutes of their live doing that

squid is a linux proxy

ok thanks

i used squid as a socks proxy before
but i didn't know it stores local data of visites pages

http://paste2.org/p/5033 that should work

PRAEDO to answer your question… i am not aware of any way to generate encrypted javascript from within php

btw, I have all your HTML code

how did you do that?

you use way to many iframes
simple extension I have called Firebug lets you inspect the html code

cool

and javascript

any sniffer could do that too

yes, it could - so now do you see why encrpyting things until they come out of your ear are pointless?

and you can allways just tipe javascript:some code to extrude the html data in your browser addess bar

this sure is some innotive javascript code here, groundbreaking infact - you should patent it

perfectissimo, works great, thanks a lot

everything encrypted needs a key to be unencrypted… and looks like all browsers must know how to decrypt, so the user can know it too
i guess it's a standard way of encryption that doens't need a key

I told you it was quick and easy!

the packer from dean ?

i also encrypted my hard disk using dm-crypt and cryptsetup… and in that case, a key is needed to decrypt

this is also a nice way to hide email addresses!

do you have a tin-foil hat by any chance?
do you shred every letter you get … twice, then burn them?

just use some javascript eval() to do stuff, there is no bot i know that parses javascript code

yes

is it just me or is apt-get a lot less simple than yum?

what's hard about apt-get ?

yum is built on idea of apt

i can't find the docs about the "" operator =( =(

!+heredoc

[HEREDOC] http://www.php.net/language.types.string#language.types.string.syntax.heredoc

and "" is nothing.

echo SOMEEND texttexttexttext SOMEEND;
thank you
oh, only 3

anyone knows a way to encrypt javascript using php?

not me

as long as i know, only windows programs can do that for individual files

i dont think it's possible using a stock php extension

right?
yeah, maybe it's not possible to do that dynamically
but could be interesting to try

Sure you can
Just write it yourself

PRAEDO i am googling for it
didnt found anything

Can anoyne help me in writing a PHP Photo gallery script?

What do you mean by "encrypt"?
Why not download existing one?

PRAEDO … aha

it's a good learning experience for me, and i've tried many existing php photo gallerys and don't like them, I want to make something very simple.

Is there any PHP logger?

he likes to encrypt _everything_ HTML, Javascript - you know it, it's encrypted so no one can get at it, you can't even right-click on any of his websites etc etc etc
s/know/name

PRAEDO check this out http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/1863.html

so; What is stopping you?

I can't seem to figure out how to read all of the files in a directory into an array

readdir()
no, sory

…

scandir()

What makes you thin, that "encrypting" JS will be imposible to take? Whatever the browser can read is copyable.

PRAEDO but i think all this class does is "unnecessary remarks, white spaces, carriage returns and other non-functional characters from the source code" which does not hide the urls very well

that will return it into an array unlike readdir am i correct

we've tried telling him - infact I managed to get all his HTML code and rolfen managed to get links that were 'hidden' and wanted to keep 'private'
php.net/scandir

PRAEDO yes, what we are talking about is not encryption, but obfuscation

yes, thank's alot guys, i think i got it now. i really just wanted something extremely simple that shows a picture with a next and previous picture link, so this is perfect. i'm brand new to php so thanks alot

you *CANNOT* encrypt javascript.

you can encrypt javascript, but only as long as the person you want to prevent copying the code isn't the same person executing the code.

Isnt it possible to use foreach with a array with only one thing in it?

Danielss89 sure why not

you can Danielss89

Question, What is the easiest way to change BBcode into HTML, when I am pulling it from a database? Could I just run it through a function, and have the function return it or echo it?

if at any point the JS code has to be read by browser, you *cannot* encrypt it. Just obfuscate it.

thank you for agreeing with me

test
Hello, I will soon code some advanced chat class and I'm looking for a good solution which provides the PHP timer, because I need to create two threads. The first thread should start the second thread and continue to work, the second thread should send Header("Location: …"); to clients browser
every (int)seconds because i hate JavaScript and tag META-REFRESH is very deprecated for my XHTML 1.1 purposes Any suggestions? Is it

even possible to create advanced, multithreaded app in PHP?

PHP doesn't do multithreading

just use AJAX lol

Wolfpaws well you can hack it using fork…
cant you?
it's a bit ugly though

rolfen, thanks for that class page

np…

but as you said, it's obfuscation, not encryption

oh, AJAX is nasty, because my code should work with disabled javascript (for security purposes)

The question was about multithreading, not forking.

how is using AJAX a security risk?

Wolfpaws well you can have multiple threads by using fork… isnt that multithreading?

no.
and, no, you can't have multiple "threads" by forking.

http://searchdomino.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid4_gci1191398,00.html

You can't have 2 threads on a single web page without XHR.

thanks

Microsoft_equals how do you refresh the page without using either html redirect or javascript?
bMicrosoft_equals how do you refresh the page without using either html redirect or javascript?/b
what's with sending a header every couple of seconds… what's that, some push stuff?

URL"):, the function which contains header must be executed in specified interval

but you can only send the headers once… after sending html you cant send headers anymore

You *can* use META REFRESH in header, but it's equan the the one that is sent via browser.
*equal

you're wrong, because there is a outputBuffering in PHP and also ob_flush() can sometimes do the stuff.

I don't think that META REFRESH is good enough in 2007, do you? )

I think brains are good for 2007, wouldn't you agree?

oooo
burn

I would like to create some "background worker" just to execute my callBack
I would like to create some "background worker" just to execute my callBack

I already pointed out you *CANNOT* do it without XHR or meta refresh.

that's right, man. But anyway there can be other (not well known) way how to do it, maybe it can be some 3rd party PHP enhancement, how complicated can be to create new plugin for PHP 5.2.2 ?

anyone know of anything that better then pecl filter? something that has a better erroring system

that means your app will only work with your php,
unless everyone someone magically gets your extension
s/someone/shomehow
oh god,

yes, there can be another way. BY NOT USEING A BROWSER!

my extension will be licenced under GNU/GPL v2 if i'll do it

yay. I still can't type

so? that doesn't mean every server will have your extension

only my server needs to "magically" refresh chat window without any awfull things

chat…

so you're not going to let people download this app?

Why are you even *THINKING abuout using HTTP for chat applications?

my source codes are *always* downloadable for everybody

but they wont be able to use it without this extra extension
anyway, I must go
night all!

'nigh
oh too late

Why don't you use some *proper* chat language? Like Java or flash?

look, I need to create and implement high quality PHP chat class into complex project, which must be unfortunatelly "all-in-one", it's of course commercial, but i want to create an OpenSource clone during the development of proprietary one

you can't combine "high-quality chat" and PHP.

everything is possible in OpenSource world

Microsoft_equals i would use AJAX

!+g14

Guideline 14) never argue with the guidelines or an Op [See Also: Patriot Act]

!+g15

PHP can only do SO MUCH. Maybe one day, it will be able to wipe your ass, but not today.

There.

lol

"create an OpenSource clone during the development of proprietary one"
Uhhh.
That doesn't have "dangeorus IP issues" written all over it.

Microsoft_equals seriously you dont want to refresh the whole windows, with graphics and all ever couple of seconds

writing a proper applications in proper language exceeds your intelect it seems.

omg, when my boss wants PHP project, i'll create it, no matter what you say, i'll create also simillar OpenSource project, because it's usefull.

Does your boss knows about PHP and programming?

Try to guess…

Then you TELL him that you should be using a proper language

php5 is reasonable Wolfpaws

use c if you want "hight-quality"

C++ if you want quality, C if you want pure speed, rocketmagnet

oh yeah? At which part? Multithreading? Proper memory management?

*web* Wolfpaws
C#/Java if you dont care about speed and want portable quality

And applications written in C can't be considered "quality"?

1 person from milion really knows about programming enough, and bussiness is not about proper languages, it's about "Can you do It for me or should I look for somebody else?"

Have you even read what I was talkin about?

no, Wolfpaws, i just believe C++ to be better
nope

That's your personal belief… BTW; PHP is written in C. And so is Perl / Python / Linux kernel.

yes i know, i'd prefer it rewritten in C++, Wolfpaws

C/C++ is trash, x86 assembler is much more suitable. It's faster, better optimized, it has more logical and easy syntax, the best documentation and the best IDE, you know?

interpret needs speed hence the C, Wolfpaws
*ter

Microsoft_equals if you want your company to stay in business you need to make sure that it makes good-quality application

I'm having a little, strange problem with a shout box from vbulletin. It's just an ancillary question … in IE things work great, but in Opera/FF, it seems to be returning a couple extraneous characters: . I realize I haven't expressed a question very well, but does
anyone have an idea of what might be going on?

and you should be just another slave and "do it their way" or "do it the proper way"?
You were excluding performance and quality.

no i just think C++ i better quailty and is slightly slower… not that they are exclusive

C is stronger

mikedoty that seems like a though problem

C is the daddy of all languages since most are based on C

I'm helping a friend with this, it's sounding now like maybe the server is returning different data depending on browser

So your statement is void.

more or less

We'll keep playing around wtih it, if I can better formulate my question later, I'll try again

Assembler is the real daddy of all languages, including fortran

true

mikedoty if you post with ie, will you be seing the extra chars in FF?

asm is the daddy

no Wolfpaws, they arent boolean quality/performance, you can have less and more

fortran sod that man lol

Your statement is pointless.

thats rocket science

as ever

someone know the dragon book ?

compiler design?

yes

grumble

anyway C _was_ great, when Ken Thomson created It, to improve portability of his UNIX kernel, which was written is asm for PDP.



and what is wrong with it now?

It's deprecated

its not lol i work for google and i write in C everyday at work

i've the book now for 2 weeks and only finished first few chapters, hope to find more time for this

oh, yes? When was it deprecated?

the day c gets depreciated will be when about 99% of all languages die lol

JAVA is the most technologically advanced, C is deprecated since C++ was created

perl/php/asp/vb/html/flash/java they all run on a C backend

I don't see Linux kernel being written in C++

all the unix systems are run in C

most of all games are writen in pure c/asm (like all quake games)

now i know your name has microsoft in it, please dont act as stupid as MS as well.

all unix? Windows kernel is also written in C

indeed it was Wolfpaws

was?

maybe you don't know that Solaris almost completely runs in Java, including installer. // M$ will not use C/C++ as well, they have .NET and the whole Windows should be platform independent and written in .NET

well is
although bits of vista are c++
ms what do you think the who OS kernal file system is based on?

Microsoft_equals would you explain to me how an OS would be written in JAVA

… That's serious ammpount of stupidity

Most of the software is deprecated today, look in the science software

lol an operating system in java lol

you need a java cpu

thats like sayin 'lets build an OS in mirc script!'

I think you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about

can you only set a php cookies value to "" ? can you not delete it?

or windows krnel written in C#. Fun

hehe

The booting will fire up Java interpreter and the rest is well known, isn't it

you can set it to expire saamy?

?

oh ok cool

Why not just delete the cookie?

i didn't know you could

Microsoft_equals when you learn about java, you will understand its framework
theyve just added a gui to C and made it a little simpler and called it java

Booting my linux machine will fire up Java

booting of Solaris of course

solaris dosent run on java lol

Booting my Linux box fires up devilspie. Linux must be written in a language composed entirely of LISPish config files!

x86

that's not the truth

Microsoft_equals mmm ok interesting

could be

solaris is a unix system in C and asm
ok it has java runtimes
but its main platform is C

I never told you that *anyone* has completely platform independent OS already, but the time will come. Trust what I say.

the only language where you realy can do EVERYTHING you want to

Microsoft_equals yeah the kernel and all are not in java

java is a language like php is a language

You can't have a platform independent OS.

IITC, there are some CPU's that support Java interpretation, but are much slower than the normal ones
*IIRC

can you imagine a OS in php?
no lol

os in php?
turn it on and get a parse error

what's about an WebOperationSystem

not as bad as perl

Your statement makes absolutely no sense.

ive heard google is developing a web operating system

there ARE some OS made with server side scripts !!!

try to login and get script timeout error

haha!

like what rocketmagnet

In what way is that platform independent? You have to have a platform that understands how to run it.
"Platform independent" means that I can run it on anything that can run software. Even that might be too restrictive a definition.

https://www.youos.com

just set the cookie expiration time in the past and it will remove the cookie

That needs a web browser!
That's not platform independent!

octalthorpe yes but to be honest. if people can say "block IE6" surely browsers uncapable can be blocked

That's what you think, perhaps you're blind. What do you think ? That every 20 years all software will be written from scratch for new kind of processors? Do you know anything about for example IBM Power5 CPU with more that 5GHz ?

yeah thats what i'm doing wolf. -60000

… apache is platform independent .. most

Uhhhh, that's still not platform independent.
I don't have IE6 at all. So I can't run it. How is that in any way platform independent?

not trying to be lol
do you get it

Microsoft_equals java is the worst language at best times with its slow interface and compilation error. why would any company invest in making a full blown OS kernal included in it?

the best softwares are not platform independent
Take windows for example

Every interpreted language is going to be platform independent

Windows is not "the best softwares."
I reject your example.

incorrect Microsoft_equals

yeehaw

php isnt platform dependable

anyone will second me on that dude

it runs on windows and unix

windows

perl isnt either
nor is C

Does PHP run on, say, a Windows Mobile-based PDA
?

you know nothing about JAVA and Solaris (which is the most JAVA based OS ever). Try to read for example about Zeta filesystem http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/

after 20 years the CPU's are still machine code based. So…?

c runs on most cpus (including some handys)

nah not yet but id say its in the makings

C is the most portable language

go python

people thing java is god when its the worst thing to ever come out of the net lol

Backward compatibility with x86 is not planned to exist

sun oughta be slayed for developing it , just let it die its death lol

I never mentioned any BC with x86

but you know we have x64, which emulates x86 today.

Can someone help me out. I've followed all the directions to install PHP and Apache and I created a test file called test.php that just has " phpinfo(); ?" in it but the browser displays that string literal

there is a difference between "Java CPU"'s and "CPU's supporting Java acceleration"

Try php phpinfo(); ?

php

k one sec

yes, so?

add that you probably dont have shorttags enabled

how would they support java acceleration?

lol.
i enabled remember me now i can't logout lol
my cookies wont' die

i got a blank screen now..

kill them manualy then

session.destroy(); them
s/./_

edit httpd.conf, uncomment the proper LoadModule and add lines to support ".php" files (mimetype)

and how come I need to use "php"? the book i'm using says to just use ""

good question… I can't answer you this, since I'm not a CPU designer

you can use if its enabled

psyko_x, it is a php.ini setting

but i wouldnt bother as php6 there removing short tags

psyko_x that's a bad book

However, this article supports my words: http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/09/iphone.cpu.java.support/

i dont mean to change the conversation but does anything think .NET is just a phase like java was?

how do i turn yyyy-mm-dd into a timestamp

yeh Silver it definatley is

psyko_x or maybe outdated… things changed in php5

Java is a phase?

did someone say silver surfer

its MS trying to hang on to there domination

One of my company's flagship products is written in Java.

OK I did edit httpd.conf and here are the relevant lines:

when people see unix systems and how easy they can be

LoadModule php5_module "C:/Program Files/PHP/php5apache2_2.dll"

they will ditch NET

PHPIniDir "C:/Program Files/PHP/"
AddType aplication/x-httpd-php .php
ok that's it

Microtime returns time as -micro-seconds?

psyko_x doesnt work yet?

so the biggest companies are researching the best solution. One side is virtualization (that's IBM and INTEL's way, AIX is very good for it). The other side (Sun Solaris and M$) is platform independent OS written in interpreted language. Boot process will fire up the interpreter (which is
platform dependent) and the rest is independent.

10 years back unix system admins where specially trained now you can learn unix in high school lol

no rolfen

psyko_x did you restart apache after editing httpd.conf?

yes i did

it looks like it's just a glorified JIT or something like GJC (GNU's native java compiler)
GCJ or whatever it is

oh here's something else interesting:

http://pastebin.ca/629047

I agree with MrWilson. but yes many good applications are written are written in java bt it is still a little outdated dont ya think?

that is what I use

nah, learning unix in highschool isn't really learning unix

whats the typical way that forums prevent people form post spamming?

works just as it should

s/M$/Microsoft/

when I put "http://localhost/test.php" it gives me a blank screen but if i put "http://127.0.0.1/test.php" windows gives me a popup box asking if want to save it

No, I don't agree.

AustLaw, they add a speed limit

ya, but based on IP or what?

Java is the only language that has something like the speed of a compiled language while being binary portable.

hi peeps
how do i turn yyyy-mm-dd into a timestamp

or open it

just user based i guess?

and a maximum number of posts per day

look at highschool art classes, there are the talented ones, the ok ones and those that suck… but anybody can learn the techniques, but may never become an artist

and require validated emails

psyko_x and if you open it you'll get the php code, right?

you can boot almost everything using virtualization when you got IBM AIX and their powerfull 5GHz server. with Power5 CPU

and uses moderators

ya i do like that fact about java

it's Power6 which are clocked at 4ghz+

sorry the options are to save, cancel or find an online program to open it
kinda wierd…

yes? So you can boot anything in an ordinary x86_64

finally you've looked on it. I was just trying if somebody care

power5 cpus go up to 5ghz??

psyko_x but if you open it with the browser, what do you see?

IBM's Power* series is nice

can you fake sessions with cookies?

it's just a sham AIX is such a sh*tbag

Its just that everyone I talk to in a business envirnment talks all this crap about .NET and i just cant decide on weither I should waste my time with it or not

you can *not* in x86_64

didn't IBM bropped PowerPC CPU's?

Mac dropped PowerPC cpus

guys guys

rolfen, if I click "find" i get redirected to "http://shell.windows.com/fileassoc/fileassoc.asp?Ext=php" which is a blank page for me

lets all go to #phpsocial

I can't in x86_64 do what?

knowledge is NEVER wasted time!!

or whatever the php social chanel is

while Microsoft's been using them in the xbox's for years and IBM still makes mid-high end servers based on power5/6 cpus

psyko_x save it to the desktop and open it with ie or ff

again, if I use "http://localhost/test.php" I get a blank page

i agree but when it comes to learning anything promoted by Bill Gates i have to question myself

i dont

yea this is what I'm getting when I open it with IE

i jump in

either a blank page or a dialog box asking me if i want to save or find

IBM had losess because of Apple. I thought they've ditched the entire PowerPC line

you can't have enough of performance. Core2 is deprecated. Your computer is _IBM_ compatible, but the chipset, processor, memory, etc. is Intel TRASH.

intel is awesome

not at all 2 of the top 5 (#1 and #3 I think) supercomputers are using IBM's powerpc stuff

Microsoft_equals hey intel is not that trashy… it's cheap
Microsoft_equals that's why apples switched to intel

you all fucking suck, everyone should go back to 68000
happy now?

FYI: x86_64 is AMD, not Intel

Noone will change their mind

language*

diafic what's 68000?

noone really cares

Motorola's 68k CISC processor

rolfen, its an oldschool motorolololol CPU

ah ok

68k

RISC

Its what the original macintosh and predecessors had

i heard the CPU sony are using on the PS3 is interesting
and they're planning to use it for other things

i intern at IBM's mainframe division and their top of the line chips have like 40MB of cache with 8 cpu dies (2 cores per die)

no, CISC: http://www.sunderland.ac.uk/~ts0jti/comparch/ciscrisc.htm

its pretty insane

aren't it more than one cpu ?

Ah, yes

rocketmagnet well i didnt fully get it but it's a cpu containing like 12 CPUs or something like that… 12 units or something

you're thinking of MIPS processors, not 68k

sound strange

x86 / x64 architecture will be soon removed from markets. It can be 10 or 20 years, but for me it's soon. I found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_AIX_(operating_system) it's from creators of current computer architecture,
they have a brand new one. Power6 based and we can execute anything with IBM unIX. Their's virtualization is world's best, you know

I think you're just trolling

AIX v1 released in 1986. Since 1986 it's still developing

in *real life* AIX is a PITA

and it's completely based on UNIX System V5, not written from the scratch, but based on Ken Thomson's and Dennis Ritchie's codes

yes, so?

"the sky is blue" wow

Can't we just kickban him?

so look, can't you see? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Unix_history-simple.svg

what's your point, can you keep it on-topic (e.g. PHP)

What does that got to do with languages?

oh minix is still developped…

yah, 3.0 was released last year sometime iirc

one source told me to put my php.ini file in my c:/windows dir and others tell me to keep it in in normal PHP dir..which is recomended?
I'm assuming in PHP

create a phpinfo file, and see where it expects the PHP.ini file to be

HarryR my php isn't working properly

blank pages?

I appologize for my behavior, i was just trying to explain, that the UNIX used on first really advanced computers (PDP's) is still developing today and it will never end.

i WAS getting blank pages…suddenly i get a popup box now that asks me to save,find or cancel

I still tinker with v7, slowly writing my own port of the userland to modern kernels and even more slowly, porting the kernel to x86

any ideas HarryR?

it means your web server isn't configured properly

I have apache installed and I added the loadModule and all that to httpd.conf

if you're running apache, do httpd -m to see which modules are loaded, then go through your config files and make sure it's in there, then go through your log files and check for any errors

ok
httpd -m from cmd console?

uh, hmm im thinking of something else, sorry

"Memory sizes up to 4 GB are supported" — Cute. In 2006. Must be advanced system.

for Apache2 it's "apache2 -l"
it's a really nice system for teaching how operating systems work (e.g. the you can pretty much jump in anywhere in the sourcecode and know what it's supposed to be doing)

depends on the distro… Can be apache2, can be httpd or just apache

but it's still -l

yes

hmm. well my apache install has ApacheMonitor.exe and httpd.exe but no apache2.exe

don't worry with porting. Soon we will not have to port anything with JAVA or .NET Fuc*edWork x.y(the 3rd number is missing, because M$ employees didn't read VERSIONING-HOW-TO)

it'll be httpd.exe

can someone tell me if i have the concept of how to do a remember me feature correct

I don't get your point!

post form. if checkbox remember me is ticked. Add a cookie: email,username
register session

ok…theres no php5 module listed. only core.c, mod_win32.c, mpm_winnt.c, http_core.c, mod_so.c

Stop it. Please go feed your stupidity to someone else.

close browser reopen, check if ISSET cookie email,username. If SO Register a SESSION in that email/username
is that it?

ok, so check your log files and see if Apache tried to load the module but failed to

It was a reaction for 00:26

yea

AddModule mod_php5.c

I have no idea what you're talking about, avast!

All stupidity, ignorance and also arrogance i've seen this night is not mine, but yours, idiot !

ooooh

what the hell SOAP is part of MS?

probably in Vista

blimey
i used to like SOAP

The protocol itself has nothing to do with any company or operating syste,
*m

SOAP - PHP is used to write an OS ???

o.O

eh?

huh

is multithreading to be implemented in PHP6 ?

no

mmkay

http://tinyurl.com/yu3bve - this stuff rocks

lo

eh?

rolfen, its not something that is generally needed in PHP as the server usually spawns multiple instances/threads of php for the different requests

hi guys little question i got a bunch of files here and i'm trying to rename them. ex: # rename 's/_S/-S/' *.php (from the command line) and nothing happnes any ideas?

HarryR, the AddModule section is in httpd.conf?

edman007 yeah

I dont see it..

yup

i suppose you can write your own fork processes tho rolfen

for Apache2 you only need "LoadModule"

well just add it anywhere if you dont see it

OK I have that

ah ok

Are you using Apache1 or Apache2?

rolfen if I just add it anywhere i cant start the server
theres an error

what i hate is web developers who put everythin they know into 1 sie

apache 2
just downloaded the newest version

what is the error ?

MrWilson never tried using fork

works well when making run alone apps in php

The Apache service named reported the following error:

Invalid command 'AddModule', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration .

psyko_x ok, my bad, sorry :

ah ok, that's to be expected, you don't need the AddModule bit

np
next idea?

psyko_x i just run php as CGI myself

if you're new to PHP on Windows, just get a copy of WAMP

can you do like
if (blah = blah || blah)

for performance it's better to run it as a module though

11:40PM
hm i need beer!

it'll save you lots of time setting stuff up
I want a beer but the shops are closed

I see…hmm

psyko_x how about running php as CGI?

do i have to uninstall apache

unless I trudge half way acrowss town to this lil corner shop
no

rolfen I'd rather not but I guess I could if i run out of options

ahh i got some earlier ;p

ok HarryR

but it's probably best if you did

I'll try wamp
ok
damn

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_WAMPs

HarryR well if he's not on a production server… just a developpement environment it shouldnt be a problem, should it?

hmm, but I want beer though

yea this is just a dev environment

nope, it'll be easier

can you do like
if (blah = blah || blah)?
==*
o.o

but eventually it will become a production server

yes

coo

if ($beer == $good || $vodka) { /* … */ }
got it on my mind now MrWilson

are ya in the uk?

that syntax means "if beer==good or beer==vodka"?

yah, south london

ahh im from coventry

no, if beer == good, or vodka is anything

pop down the offie and get some beer

ok

http://www.wowwebdesigns.com/wowbb/forum12/791.html

thought so

ok ok… you forced me to

ok rolfen thanks. i'll take a look

how to create a newline in an alert() ?

\n
alert('this is an\nalert');
oh man i love jquery

that's plain and simple javascript.

guys… my rememember me. didn't remember me

MrWilson i think these should be double quotes

i know im just sayin i love jquery
for its ajax lib

jquery is ok

makes ajax a doddle

hey guys questio time trying to install latest phpmyadmin on php 5.1.6 and im getting a white page, and the error log is giving segmentation faults(11) suggestions?

ow

http://pastebin.zentrack.net/14359
remember me feature in login

When I insert into a MySQL database, how do I retrieve the primary key id from the item I inserted?

you can't.
you have to select that row again

`m0 actually i had the same problem

you can't

i think you can…

doubtit

is it ? mysql_insert_id()

SQL can

`m0: yes

I did long time ago, I am rust, been a long time since I played with php

told ya

ok so I think I'm gonna go with Glossword WAMP

Alright, cool Good guess :p

never say can't

rolften unfortunately that link didn't help me but thx

you're welcome :

have i got the concept right?
check if isset cookieXXXX and if so register a session for a valid user

god win2k3 security is so annoying sometimes

saamy… you're identifying against cookies?

yeah
REMEMBER ME

saamy why dont you store username and password in the database like everybody else

what the hell
have you heard of remember me features man

no

username password tickbox REMEMBER ME

ok…

so when you close browser come back an hour later you're logged in

ok now i got it

yeah
so thats what im trying to achieve here with cookies but its not exactly working correct lol

saamy what part is not working?

the remember me

that is not very helpful
i guess you mean nothing is working

arghh all the shops are shut

hello
how can I remove all element in an array except the last 10?

spudser array_slice

thanks

spudser with a negative offset… np

I was looking at all the functions, but nothing seemed to have a logic name

well
$_SESSION['valid_user'] = $_COOKIE['cookuser']; the page stops loading

when php6 will be release if php4 is end of life ?

1" which I remember was commented out in my

when it's stable

So my comp wasn't listening on that ip and port then right

i think 1/1/2008

if you try to echo $_SESSION['value']; without a session_start() prior does the page die?
bif you try to echo $_SESSION['value']; without a session_start() prior does the page die?/b

you expect people to organize a major PHP release over the christmas/new year holidays? ahahaha
I for one won't be in any state to do anything on 1/1/2008

if php.net says "After 2007-12-31 there will be no more releases of PHP 4.4"

oh, I thought you meant php 6 will be released then

hello

i think php6 is for competion with perl6

session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cache limiter - headers already sent (output started at Fh2o\Abria\Apache\htdocs\esogu.net\checkall.php:1) in Fh2o\Abria\Apache\htdocs\esogu.net\checkall.php on line 2
whats wrong ?

dotcomtr you have already sent something to the browser

quite far from it, actually.

dotcomtr like an echo or an error message or something

before session_start ?

yeah what do you do before session_start()?

anything.

is there an error message before that warning?

its first line
no

it's line 2… what is there before?

started at Fh2o\Abria\Apache\htdocs\esogu.net\checkall.php:1) in Fh2o\Abria\Apache\htdocs\esogu.net\checkall.php on line 2
first line
second is session_start

no spaces?
weird

no

Hi

put the session_start() on first line

you only need one session_start() right? files that you include within a parent page can make use of the session_start called in the parent page right?

session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cache limiter - headers already sent (output started at Fh2o\Abria\Apache\htdocs\esogu.net\checkall.php:1) in Fh2o\Abria\Apache\htdocs\esogu.net\checkall.php on line 1
first line

saamy yeah you do session start only once, afaik

ok

its on first line

ok i found the cause of the page die
$_SESSION['username'] = $_COOKIE['cookusername'];
now question. if cookie cookusername is blank or whatever. could that cause the page to die?
nevermind was missing a ;

if a php error/warning/notice will print before session_start()

nah i was missing a ; on the end
of the statement. thats screwed cause php didnt report that error it just died
the page just stoped loading

dotcomtr maybe it's a bug… i'm googling

rolfen i am not sure, i am using that session_start another pages,there are no problem

most ppl install PEAR with php right?

my checkall.php but same error

lol
dotcomr
its
session_start();

i know

MEans you have something before php

ok homey

Wolfpaws no thats first line

You're not listening. Means something is before that php

no

yes

its checkall.php
and i am opening it
one moment
www.esogu.net/heh.JPG
this
getting same err

you get " headers already sent " from running *checkall.php* ? dotcomtr

so? You could easily have BOM signature there or another char that the editor doesn't detect…

try opening it in notepad

yes ThinkMedical
hmm

http://website.com/folder/index.php
is it possible with php to echo http://website.com/folder/ ?
ie just the full path to but not including the current page.

notepad, there are no char

that's a mystery to me

i dont understand

dirname() saamy?

i am using it another page

ah!

thats checkall.php heh

session_start() underscore

cool

then it's BOM

BOM ?
ThinkMedical sorry ?

do you get headers sent when you use *that* page, directly?

yes
…../checkall.php
session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cookie - headers already sent by (output started at Fh2o\Abria\Apache\htdocs\esogu.net\checkall.php:1) in Fh2o\Abria\Apache\htdocs\esogu.net\checkall.php on line 2

from the browser dotcomtr

i opened new browser

session_start() is one function do you have an underscore?

saamy you could do this $arr = explode('/', $url); array_pop($arr) ; $url2 = implode('/', $arr);

nah i did

yes ThinkMedical

finished

… It's not parse error.

i know, clutching Wolfpaws

lol

Strip BOM from your page

things people say that make me go "wtf?"

Wolfpaws sorry but i dont understand, whats BOM ?

Byte Order Mark.

its session_start(); with underscore

3 chatacters, that signify that the page should be read as UTF

does your browser url end in checkall.php ?

The warning error is telling you that you are sending output to the browser before you are setting a cookie (session_start() will set a cookie so you will get a `headers already sent' warning when trying to send output before it)

kuja the session_start is on the first line of the script, there _seems_ to be nothing before it

ThinkMedical yes, i am opening checkall.php directly, and kuja www.esogu.net/heh.JPG its on first line

Then there's probably some kind of invisible character.

no
i tried notepad

that's what Wolfpaws is telling him

create a new page, blank, with php session_start(); exit(); ?

Your first mistake is that you're using Dreamweaver.
Dreamweaver lies about invisible characters.

kuja

i'm serious.

but i checked it with notepad

You can't see bom there, either

ThinkMedical new page is working
Wolfpaws how can i see them ?
i created new page, and its working
i created it with dreamweaver again
checkall.php is dontworking bla.php is working, codding is same
k
i can delete that page
and create it again

dotcomtr or copy-paste everything after
to a new page

i am trying
huh
now working

great

do i have to do somethign in particular to get cookies working with ie7 lol

heh
whats wrong now

lol

DOM ?
bom ?

dotcomtr what's wrong?

no its working, what was wrong i said