http://www.willjessup.com/sandbox/jquery/solar_system/rotator.html

did you do that?
no you didn't
^^

nah lol

or did you?

im stuck on form validation man lool

^^

is this a security risk tho? http://www.willjessup.com/sandbox/jquery/form_validator/form_validate.html
the validation

How can I detect if a number is a hexadecimal?
preferably in an efficient manner.

hi

?

what about setTimeout/setInterval ?

thanks

Hi everyone!
Is there a site with a good javascript functions index?
I need char processing functions.

http://www.w3schools.com/js/js_obj_string.asp

Thx!

'a'?

judging from a quick one liner
yes
javascript:if('b' 'a'){alert('wtf');} doesn't alert in FF at least

'a'){alert('wtf');}

does

Ok, thx

the IE javascript host interpreter behaves the same

I'm writing for xalan's javascript xsl function definitor, so now I have to hope really strong.
I'm writing for xalan's javascript xsl function definitor, so now I have to hope really strong.

dirty

has anyone a good idea where i might find an easy compression algo that does not need too much cpu power when running as javascript inside a browser?
actually i just need decompression

what compression format do you need to handle ?

its not important i can choose whatever i like
it should just not be too cpu hungry.
because i have to do base64 decoding first
i have a string of base64 encoded rgb data directly in a html file. but its too big
i use this to draw an image onto a canvas
therefore i thought doing some minimal compression before encoding into base64 would be a good thing

bedtime

M0tH3r[x]: here is an example what i'm doing: http://77.57.2.131/~schwadri/test.html
M0tH3r[x]: needs firefox though

yeah, I've played with canvas too a while back

M0tH3r[x]: first i had a script that put alot of pixels as divs but it was too slow. then i did it using tables, which was a little faster, and yesterday somebody told me about this canvas stuff. which is quite cool. but some methods are not working

Hi!! Right, I am developing an web app in asp.net and there is a form called aspnet (done by asp.net) and inside that is my form PayPalForm, I am trying to submit the data, I have tried getelementbyid() documents.forms, parent.frames and it will not submit, any help would be appreciated.

M0tH3r[x]: like putImageData

since if I do a normal submit it does the aspnet form first and not my form.

iLess, some functions need a little while getting used to
but if we get back to your problem

M0tH3r[x]: what do you mean?
M0tH3r[x]: which functions?
M0tH3r[x]: canvas functions?

well, canva related functions
yes

M0tH3r[x]: ah k.
M0tH3r[x]: my problem is that the html file is too large because i have no compression that i would normally have when sending like png or jpeg files
M0tH3r[x]: but something like huffman encoding might be too slow

true

Anyone?

I'm looking for some gzip javascript code right now
I mean, this is what came to my mind first

a-hoi hoi

M0tH3r[x]: hm rle encoding might be interesting too.
M0tH3r[x]: but not for normal images though

used to be quite common… PCX used RLE, iirc

yeah

is there a way to iterate through a hash, but by the key? IE: I'd like to emulate the foreach $key (keys %hash)…but I want to know the actual key in the hash AND the value
all I can find is a basic loop to go through each element

`js for/in @ mcknin

js for/in: Loop over keys in an object, skipping prototypes: for( var i in Obj ) if( Obj.hasOwnProperty(i) ){ … }

a friend is asking for that "click on thumbnail, darken screen and show larger version" type effect…
ah….. "lightbox"

M0tH3r[x]: found anything?
M0tH3r[x]: bascially im looking for decompression speed. compression is done using a c++ progam

you're after image hosting compression?

s/progam/program

ahhh skiping prototypes…I was wondering why there were so many damn functions in my array

can i say something.

yeah.

what are your requirements?

I have a app that converts an image into a html-file with the image embeded

sorry to link to w3schools, but http://www.w3schools.com/about/about_copyright.asp # a e-mail image sucks, doesn't it?

beautiful thanks guys!

curious

and the decompression has to be done using javascript

ok

and therefore it should be as fast as possible

so, preferably integer only
how much loss can you tolerate? or did you want lossless?

now i don't know if huffman coding is fast or not
lossless

you'd be better off with LZ77

here is what the produces html looks like atm: http://77.57.2.131/~schwadri/test.html

huffman requires fiddling with bits

k. thx

LZ77 is fairly simple, especially if you have free range over your data

free range?

unlimited access

you mean like a continuous storage?

it's not like you're compressing gigs of data
yes

nah i have just the data base64 encoded inside a javascript-string

do you also have access to the decompressed data?

how do you mean that?
i have a c++ program that takes an uncompressed picture and creates a html file with the picture data base64 encoded inside a string in the inline javascript. so on the client i have to decode the base64 data before i can decompress it.

I'm trying to read over your decode… doesn't help that it's all on a single line

http://livebb.citrosaft.com/
if someone wants it

ah sorry. i can fix that

I'm used to working on rather limited embedded systems… sometimes when you write to screen, you can't read it back

so the code should be a little more readable now

it's also interesting you're using a "canvas" element….
interesting… all of this is your own work?

yes
i have 6 different versions of the code
i have one that uses divs
another one builds a table
some of them don't have java but all the stuff written out in plain html
i just found out about the canvas yesterday, so i though maybe its faster than building a huge table
and it is much faster

sure… so long as you only want FF to be able to see it

but rescaling of the picture is not possible so i have to redraw it entirely
in the final version will be a browser switch

so, you want compression… fairy nuff
seems Opera supports it, also

cool
well safari doesn't

apparently v3 safari does
so.. you just unpack raw RGB values (convenient for Base64 encoding

exactly

LZ77 works by matching strings at the input (data yet to be compressed) with already seen data
in "traditional" LZ77, the output is a tuple of ( match offset, match length, char that didn't match )

hm what about lzw?

so decompressiong is _fast_
LZW builds up a dictionary of "seen symbol sequences" as it goes

hm where can i find info about lz77? wikipedia doesn't have much

I wrote a simple LZ77 compressor/decompressor a couple of years ago

except a pdf paper full of mathematical analysis

heh

for javascript?

no… but I could easily enough
Image compression can make things odd, though…. do you want to treat colours as single values (RGB)… or as three?
a single plane? or 3?
and so on…
simplest to implement would be, I think, single plane, single value

Erm, are you talking about image compression in Javascript?

single plane?

no.. image decompression in JS

…

R G and B can be considered separate "planes"

What kind of decompression?
What's the format?

the choice is wide open
for moderate complexity with fast decompression, I'm recommending LZ77 (aka LZSS)
`js ref

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/JavaScript , http://devedge-temp.mozilla.org/central/javascript/index_en.html , http://phrogz.net/ObjJob/ , JScript@MSDN: http://tinyurl.com/9pk3l , www.crockford.com/javascript/

You could use RLE for really fast stuff.

that was suggested before

But that would only be effective for a small class of images.

yeah but rle on pictures is not optimal

it'd get very little compression on full colour images, but is trivial to do

This is my cue to ask, "Why"?

Gedunken?

The better question is "Why not?"

Muntles!

You Javascript people are weird.

Why do you think that?

hihi
anyone awake?

.
awake?

hey Lumio.

it's 3:34pm
in austria

btw - atob() would have saved you a lot of pain
3pm in

? whats that?

Well it's 2.34pm here, so I suspect you mean "AM"

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Talk:Core_JavaScript_1.5_Reference#btoa.28.29_and_atob.28.29_base64_encode_and_decode_functions

well it was not that much of pain
but seems that atob is not portable
only on mozilla?

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/DOM:window.atob
seems so

:P

yeah, but it should stay portable, i will use atob for mozilla and my implementation else

ayuh

Is Bob really funky?

Jan-: sniff me and find out

btoa("foobar")

Error: Error: ReferenceError: btoa is not defined at line 0: (null)

hey, Woosta.

Ahh .. duh .. no dom

Isn't it past your bedtime?

hey Jan-
I'm about to be outta here
yeah
time

5, Hawaii: Tue

where's Tokyo

hm looks like btoa is a member method of windo
window

also, wouldn't it be simpler to prepend your value with "00000" and just substr the last 6 chars?
balso, wouldn't it be simpler to prepend your value with "00000" and just substr the last 6 chars?/b

Jan-: Somewhere in Asia, I think.

maybe ^^

Look out for the shinto temples.

time Asia/Tokyo

Time at Asia/Tokyo: Tue 22:37

G'night all

time antarctica

Unable to find time zone 'antarctica'. Please supply an offset (+0800) or an Olsen time zone name (Australia/Melbourne)

nini Woosta

time south pole

Unable to find time zone 'south'. Please supply an offset (+0800) or an Olsen time zone name (Australia/Melbourne)

drinks please

ha

mcknin! Hey! Don't be cruel to the bot.
good bot!
mcknin–

yeah atob works almost. but now i have weird colors

"colours" has a "U" in it.

are you remembering to re-pack your bytes?

hi, i'm looking to make a similar implementation to the "Quick Links" section located in the top right corner of http://www.microsoft.com/worldwide/ , does anyone know how i can do this please? thanks

repack?

you're getting bytes out of atob() …
I'm so rusty on JS, I don't even know if it has a printf equiv

http://77.57.2.131/~schwadri/new.html
http://77.57.2.131/~schwadri/orig.html

iLess, do you have a brother called iMore, or are you just another fine Apple product?

Jan-: neither. i am the the guy from minority report. the one that has no eyes

heh

Oh.

hmm… am I missing something, or does JS have no string formatting?
heh

There is no string formatting as in printf in perl/c/whatever.
There's plenty of methods of the String object, though.
What're you trying to achieve?

You could use the miscellaneous functions and put them together.

I'm looking through them

Jan-: Erm, string formatting possibly

The one little-known one is toFixed(n)

?

ideally, the same as sprintf( "%02x%02x%02x", a, b, c )

(1.2678162738).toFixed(2) == 1.26

Jan-: lol just found the problem. wrong index

er 1.27

Jan-: oh sorry wrong person

heh

I did wonder.

Hmm, you're welcome to write one yourself though.

Jan-: not what I was after

now it works

What are you after?

Why would 1600×1200 screen res break screen.availWidth??

like Number.toString(16) but with 0-padding to 2 chars

oh yeah that would be nice

Mace[work]: In what useragent?

what's the trick to getting document.getElementById working in Firefox?

Works fine for me so far.

i was afraid of that.
i'll pastebin
http://pastebin.ca/631934
works in IE6 (which was the point but needs to work everywhere)

The paste 631934 has been copied to http://erxz.com/pb/3747

Wait… you're using IE 6 as a benchmark?

wait a sec
this is a FIX for IE6
please please please don't start questioning my intentions, i spent an hour in here last night fighting with people who wouldn't debug the freakin' thing unless I answered all their questions about intent

you can't complain about a free lunch

2 * 2

4

i haven't been fed yet.
so i can.

that's dope

Mmm, styles.

I didn't even realise.

And what is content-container?

it's a div

And how exactly is this "not working"?

the change to the div isn't applying

hi. can javascript somehow "wait" for a variable to be true?

You could periodically check it using setTimeout.

I'll try that, thanks. is it my only option, tho?

Looks like it.

Jafet i'm assuming you don't see anything wrong with that code

No I don't.

hm.

Is h a valid value?
What does the console say?

isn't it? it's the viewport minuse 15 minus 35
hang on

Well, I'd check to make sure it is valid first before blaming getElementById.

oh, that's interesting…
(and i'm not blaming, i just don't know JS)
error console says…
"Error in parsing value for property 'height'. Declaration dropped."

See?

yes i see but i still don't understand why FF doesn't see the height attribute on a div with IE does.

I'm guessing there are extranuous things like "px" and stuff appended to it.
So weird stuff happens.

hm, that's an interesting idea…

If it is indeed getting cluttered, convert it to int first before doing stuff with it.

can I change UOM on google maps?

what's the concatenation operator in JS?

+

thanks

for string-concatenation

jafet, adding "px" to it makes it work in Firefox.
that's real interesting. Thanks for helping me out with that.

hmm.. shouldnt this work? http://erxz.com/pb/3748

you can't just use 0, you need to specify px, or em, or a percentage

the alert works, but the …disalbed=true; doesnt

a value of zero works for something like border, but not for height, it needs an actual measurement

Good. I want five healthy adult male llamas as service payment. UPS or FedEx okay.

hahahahaha
this is one debt i would love to see a collection agency handle.

still with us?

yeah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ77

just trying to figure out lz77
i've read that already
already implementing

compression can be painfully slow if "naievely" implemented

How do I check if a user as typed text in a textbox?
because I need validation

but it's fairly simple

Jafet:

logik-bomb: onChange or something.

3) (Mace[work]) Why would 1600×1200 screen res break
7) (Jafet) Mace[work]: In what

logik-bomb: Read up on events.

^^ IE 7

what search range and max-match length are you using?

also i have a new problem, http://javascript.pastebin.com/m62849af8 - it isn't updating the onclick event

atm nothing yet

Jafet, works with setTimeout. thanks

for something like this, where you don't expect large data or long matches, try 6bit length + 12bit offset
oops… 6+10

forget that second problem i fetch the value onclick now

bit?
not byte?

any idea why 1600×1200 would break screen.availWidth?

well, you could use byte length…
and two-byte offset

ok, I remeber doing this the other day.. but cant remeber how I did it, if you make a function cal say fucntio('sometag'); and in your function you read in the 'sometag' portion into a var, say id why can you not then access that by document.getElemenetById9id).value?
err sorry document.getElementByID(id)
err Id
damn i cant type

script src="htt" (86 lines) at http://erxz.com/pb/3749

Mace[work]: Nope.
Mace[work]: What's "break"?

returns an invalid value, almost double what it should be

Could someone with Google Maps knowledge tell me why the array in this file isn't being sorted? http://erxz.com/pb/3749

how should i start? i mean i need some initial data before i can start making references to it

simple… at the start, your matches are 0 length

so in the beginning i just copy like n bytes directly to output?

You failed to express your problem and intent clearly because you are not Linus Torvalds. Try again when you are Linus Torvalds.

pretty much

hhahahaha

nevermind.. i got it
but thanks

jafet i like your sense of humor, i don't know if anyone else gets it but i'm enjoying it

is there some way that, given a node, i can return the index it is at in it's parent node tree?

so do i

one idea is if you're outputting ( len, offset ) for matches, use len=0 to indicate a run of "too short" matches, and use offset for the len
basically, any match less than len( (len,offset) )+1 is "too short"

dools, That would vary depending on browsers.

i'm only interested in the standard DOM way… working with webkit

k. thx.

Presumably you can just iterate through x.parentNode.childNodes and when x.parentNode.childNodes[i] == x you've got your node.

that's what i'm doing, just wondering if theres a parentNode.getIndexOfChild() method or something, i can't find one

hm just wondering do i look for matches in the output datastream or in the input stream?

input

k

Good for you.

also, remember to allow the matcher to run past where you're up to

yeah. then i get just rle

more or less, yeah
but RLE on arbitrary sequences of symbols

Don't think so, the dom is pretty primitive sometimes.
The closest thing is IE has e.contains
dools, But that won't get you an index.

believe it or not i'm actually having trouble with a for loop going into an infinite loop

is this correct?

get rid of the javascript:
and it could be value= and onclick=

sleep time

s/could/should/

thanks

this may be a half-CSS question, but: Is there a quick way to make a certain div(or element) the first thing in a scrollable div? IE: I have a scrollable div, and something half way down should be at the top, is there a way to scroll there quickly?
when I say quickly, I don't mind using some framework/etc. that may exist to make this easy

when I have a map called blubb with fields like blubb["foo"], blubb["bar"] etc., can I somehow get a list of all the field names as String values? I need to check a substring of those field names against another string

man this is really amazing. i don't think i've ever had a for loop go infinite before

You can scroll elements to certain page or pixel counts, I believe.

hmm, ok thanks

Or you can simply place an anchor there and redirect.
Cutting edge of low-tech.

heh well there are all sorts of divs on the page

You could add the anchor using innerHTML dynamically, redirect there, and remove the anchor.

element isn't working?

http://javascript.pastebin.com/m5ad20640

dools, Getting a "This script is making the browser unresponsive, do you wan to cancel it?" dialog is really amazing?

In FireFox, the row appears, but it looses all it's width's
Do I have to set it every time?

it's a dashboard widget so it's actually just going to 99% CPU
it's pretty unusual for a for() loop though… while loops are usually the culprit there

Not really, both will generally have a conditional (an if within a while loop to break) that isn't getting met.
`paste @ Mace[work]

Mace[work]: paste: Paste links, not code: http://erxz.com/pb/ http://pastebin.parentnode.org/ http://paste.css-standards.org/
Mace[work]: paste: Paste links, not code: a href="http://erxz.com/pb/"http://erxz.com/pb//a a href="http://pastebin.parentnode.org/"http://pastebin.parentnode.org//a a href="http://paste.css-standards.org/"http://paste.css-standards.org//a

that's everything you need, if you can't see what's happening from that you shouldn't be using that bot
and that means don't flood the channel

I am coding in ASP AJAX so I can use C# or Javascript to accomplish this, but is there any way I can call a form reset as if the user clicked a clear button but called automatically on demand?

are you retarded
they are links to pastebin's, which i used

Mace[work], Err… what? I'm not retarded. That links to a pastebin which lets you submit full testcases.

input type="button" value="Clicky" onclick="document.form1.submit()";

that was a full test case

and in the browser i get
document.form1 has no properties
Oo
anyone?

logan_koester, Is form1 the form's id?

document.getElementById('form1).submit()

yes is form1
document.getElementById("form1").submit is not a function
:X

logik-bomb, Sauce?

logik-bomb: are you sure it's id is form1

form id="form1" method="post" action="creativecomments.php"

Mace[work], Anyway, regardless of your unnecessary fuckfacary http://erxz.com/pb/ allows the page itself to be viewed without whoever having to paste it into a file just to try it out.

language

Mace[work], Well you called me retarded.
Really.

btw, this button is outside the form
is that ok?

yes

thanks

You probably have a input type submit named submit

I do?

"probably"

Um… logik-bomb: You probably have a input type submit named submit

hi all - has anyone come across a javascript image host transition bit of code that fades one pic our before loading a second - i have seen one that looks that smooth you think its flash but it was just javascript but now cant find it

grimboy yes
I have

logik-bomb: was that directed to me?

Nope.

to grimboy

script.aculo.us Effect.Fade and Effect.Appear can be used for that

do I need to change the submit button inside the form to some other name?

logik-bomb, So yeah, just rename that because currently document.getElementById('form1).submit is that element.
Rather than a function
Because it's been overwritten.

hum…
thanks

thanks - just looking at it now

"mace" at 71.6.194.243 pasted "the row doesn't disapear in firefox" (30 lines) at http://erxz.com/pb/3753

when you select "SOLO" the row appears, when you select "VISA DELTA" the row doesn't dissapear

grimboy you are the man

FunkyBob.still here?

thanks grimboy

well it does, but the space it was previously sitting it stays
anyone see why?

oh not

logik-bomb, Actually fatbrain is the man, but hey.

are there any known bugs for firefox and the z-index?

is there an easy way to clear a form with javascript?

Do you have one in code?
Sure. Empty all the values.

that's not very easy on large forms, it's ugly and brutish
or can I dynamically get the elements?

i don't think so… firebu tells me that my li's are have a z-index 3 and my semi transparent layer on z-index 2

when i do innerHTML = '' it leaves 1 pixel

and still, the semi transparent layer is on top

Get the form itself as an object and cycle through the elements.
You need to handle things like radios and selects specially though.

my god… how can the terminating condition in a for loop not be met?! it's insanity!

guys
how can I remove las element from HTML collection ?
var divs = a.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('DIV'); divs.pop(); — doesn't work

for(i = 0; i 5; ++i) –i;

Mace[work], No element with id card_number. Add an else clause to the if and put document.getElementById('issue_number_row').style.display = 'none'; in it.

Jafet, ?

yes wll without anything quite so intentional as that
you could use childNodes[childNodes.length-1]

do you know of a way to call a javascript function in the codebehind? I have a button that when clicked does some internal functions and also clears the form

dools, childNodes[childNodes.length-1] = null ?

Sir_J, Well then there aren't any div tags in a's parents node's parent node.

grimboy, ?

input type="button" value="Clear form" onClick="clear_func()" /

Sir_J, Well do a console.log(divs)
Sir_J, But it sounds to me like it's empty.

i'll have to find another way
thx anyway

Ahh, I see, I can make a clear button that just calls a C# script on clikc..
thanks

thanks a lot
I'll try it

what's the best way to display contents of an object?
using alert(); please

C#?

"mace" at 71.6.194.243 pasted "the row doesn't disapear in firefox - instructions: (1) select "solo" (2) select visa "visa" - the display:none activates but the space where the row was remain" (47 lines) at http://erxz.com/pb/3754

it work
dools, grimboy thanks

unfortunately I am forced to use ASP

Well what does C# have to do with clearing a form?
Come to think of it, what do you mean by "the codebehind"?

nothing, it's just the language I use for my code behind
AJAX
server-side code

Okay, forget I asked.

where are you clicking to test just that code?

hehe yeah it's just all convoluted ASP crap

Mace[work], Actually I popped open vim and pasted it in because I was wrong. http://paste.css-standards.org/ is the one that lets you test it.

i usually use http://paste.css-standards.org/ actually but seaerched for a javascript pastebin for highlighting
http://paste.css-standards.org/20461

hello channel.
i have a problem i think that has to do with my javascript apple search box
www.capemayrestaurants.com

hm that pastebin doesn't like back buttons..

it seems the images don't cache or something

Mace[work], Um, isn't that an old version?

yes, the back button took me to an old version
one sec, trying to make it a little more like what i see
http://paste.css-standards.org/20463/view
SOLO then VISA
in firefox

Mace[work], Not really sure if you need lines 7-9 and 12-15
Since the divs are under the row anyway.

they make no difference
that's the stage of confusion i'm at
the height does nothing either except break future select's of solo
or switch
style.visibility makes no difference either

Oh, I see.

http://paste.css-standards.org/20464
is the clean version

what's wrong with this? http://dpaste.com/15175/
if i click on "accept" the confirm window apears twice

if you go back and forth between "SOLO"/"SWITCH" and "VISA" the amount of whitespace keeps increasing..
i need a way of "refreshing" the table layout

does anyone here use scriptaculous? is there anyway to make the scripts work in ie or is it not possible - i am trying to use the image fade function which workd fine in firefox but not ie

hi, i'm looking to make a similar implementation to the "Quick Links" section located in the top right corner of http://www.microsoft.com/worldwide/ , does anyone know how i can do this please? thanks

Please stop repeating questions, it gets annoying.
I suppose you could look at their source code?

was taking when you switch between "SOLO" and "VISA"? http://paste.css-standards.org/20464

Mace[work], I've got a solution. Almost there.

ah
if you're trying removeChild it doesn't work

Mace[work], do you have a tbody?

nope

…er…

Mace[work], that might be the problem, you're supposed to add things to the tbody

i hope you're wrong

not a valid XHTML 1.0 Strict element.

supposed to encapsulate the entire tbodytr…/trtr…tr//tbdy??

`html tbody

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/tables.html#edef-TBODY

so yes

Mace[work], This doesn't work because I've got to go, but this should give you the gist http://paste.css-standards.org/20465
Mace[work], Might work.
Right, bye.

grimboy k cheers

because it doesn't work

What doesn't work how?

i've tried downloading the page with the necessary files and it doesnt seem to work
the menu that is

so, has anyone had problems with events in a runtime created iframe?
browser rendering seems to hang

argh how annoying
doesn't work either

hi…
which fucking manual can i read before asking stupid questions …?

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Gecko_DOM_Reference

thx…

hi
how do I make a link show a certain element of the page when clicked on?
basically onclick="open this code"

hey guys, I'm looking for a bulletproof way of doing a popup; any suggestions?

I suggest Kevlar.

anyone know of a tool to measure the amt of data transferred for loading a single page (including css sheets / js includes / etc.)?

Other than that, user agents can and will stop you so don't bother.

hey everyone

Use some sort of network monitoring software?
I use EULAware called NetLimiter that does some good stats.
Forget I said anything.

Firefox + Firebug

You could go through the headers and get content lengths.

meh, firebug tells you it right-off-the-bat for each file

It does?
Damn, I need to downgrade Firefox or something.
Firebug doesn't work with GP…

yes it does, open it and click the 'NET' tab

GP ?

been in there for the last 2 versions & the current version =p

hello, how can I know is a value is a string or a number (5 != "5")?

typeof

Hmm, must be a new version.

if(typeof variable == "string") I think lowercase string. Also you could use isNaN()

The one I tested had problems in GP.

what's GP? lol

Gran Paradiso, codename for Firefox 3.

experiment with those, see what typeof and isNaN return in different situations

theirs a Firefox 3??????

typeof is more reliable

Sembiance, thx !

Shocking, isn't it?

no, i just never knew about it .

typeof has some… issues though, especially when determining if something is an array vs. object

Of course, it's all alpha. So if you install Firebug and it crashes, no hate mail.

ah, ok

Erm, it's rather stable.
On it's own.

lol
in other words, no plugins? lol

But then, who the sexual congress uses Firefox on its own.

hey, where can I find that feature… I have firebug actually but I can't seem to find it

Sembiance, isNaN is not of help because I'm using dojo on keypress, and it puts all keys into evt.key, so that I don't know if a user pressed 2 or "2" for example

Does anyone know if I can get a similar script to how digg displays their FAQ, http://digg.com/faq

open it, then it has *tabs* on the firebug window, should be along the lines of "Console | HTML | CSS | Script | DOM | Net" - click Net

oh nice
wow this is beautiful
thank you very much

You could simply steal their source code and adapt it…

don't work here… :/

I could, but I was curious

i use that to figure out which parts of my site cause it to hang… usually the CSS =p

Jafet, how do you steal open source code …?

i think by 'steal' he means 'take'

Erm, refuse to comply with license, perhaps?

lol

GPL is viral viral viral.

Jafet, right …

i'm not sure that's somethin to talk of in an IRC channel

Of course, if it's under the http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl then you generally can't "steal" it.

arf, i hate my poor english …

when I do x.height = 500; how does it now it's px?
or should I mention 500px ?

Merck should make a vaccine for GPL. It'd really sell.
x.style.height seems better. And yes specify the units for that.

Jafet, ah yeah I meant .style.height
cool

I have seen alerts that come up that you can push cancel or okay on. What is this called? I googled but only find the prompts that also ask for some input with it.

thought it only accept integers
10x

confirm dialog [google for 'javascript confirm']
major issues with it though, best to go with a custom div using Javascript & CSS with buttons on there

RockerMONO what kind of issues are we talking about?

mostly issues in that it gets set off at the wrong times sometiems
and the confusing way of implementing it
took me like 3 hours to figure out how to do it….
& i'm not sure it works right cuz the part that sets it off isn't implemented =p

Hmm, thank you for the the information. For the interest of time I am going to try the confirm and see if it will be a problem. I dont think it will be needed much.

so Jafet, any idea?

yea, if you just mess with a little div, and opacity - way nicer & way cooler effect, i'm workin on one now & if you want you can take a look when i'm done

That sounds great please let me know where it is and I would love to take a look

I didn't look.

once i finish it'll be on http://rockermono.dav7.net:8080/pyServ/javascript/

if you have a submit button that by default, you want disabled, how can you turn it back on with a javascript. document.getElementById('submitbutton').disbaled="no"; ???

i'm working on implementing my custom Python server and PortableWebAp on the same server, that's why it has /pyServ/ in there

Bad idea for non-Javascript user agents.

… ok, but if I want the javascript agaents to use it.. is that correct?

Hmm, no idea.
Not a Javascript coder.

I have a price in the format of 25,000.00 . How can I multiply that price without loosing that format? So if I do 25,000.0 * 2, I would get 50,000.00 in return.

best to have it enabled, *then* disable it and enable as needed cuz otherwise non-javascript browses cant use it

Store it as an integer number of cents, maybe.

how would you go about enabling it?

document.getElementById('submitbutton').disabled='false'; i believe - it might be disabled='no'; but you mis-spelled it

thanks

if you get Firefox/Chatzilla it can help a bunch with spelling issues =p

alright.

That will prevent inaccuracies from floating-point representations creeping into calculations.

thats what im using.. im a pathetic slepper

lol

hehe

meh, check for red underlines when you paste code, it might solve your problem without you even asking

Thanks

hey guys
got a script i need help with, dont know if it's a question for #javascript, #html or whatever
but i have this page for a customer that shows pictures of shit they sell, there's 3 pictures in the middle, and a marquee on the bottom using javascript
the pictures refresh from 6-10 seconds using php

what does setTimeout() do?

the images are picked randomly, now what happens is that whenever one of the pictures update the marquee skips
is there a way to prevent it from skipping?
aesthetically it looks crap

ah nevermind

People sell shit?

if you have a sample page i might be able to

from the land of evil fire-breathing fairy dragons?

for the sake of my sanity i was assuming he meant shit as in 'stuff nobody cares about', but if i'm wrong PLEASE dont tell me haha

no Jafet, not marquee

NOooooooooooooo why'd you even mention that?!

http://it-cops.com:81/slides/ticker.js
it skips in every browser i try it on
opera, firefox and IE

it pauses to download the image

Ooh, a standard bug.

exactly

is there anypoint in doing setTimeout(function(){ /* CODE */ }, 0); ?

i dont want it to pause to download the image

how id that different than just declaring the function?

Sure, if that's what you want it to be doing.

this will run locally, is there a way to have it cache every picture?

is there any way to force internet explorer to umm.. start drawing?

i could uh.. preload it

Preload it?

yea, the pictures

Preload random pictures? Hmm.

but if you're setting the timer at 0, how is that different than just delcaring the func() outside of the setTimeout() ?

oh right..

No idea.

im using frames to put them in their place

you need to preload the image, then point to the preloaded one it should work

I have a date in a field. I need to pass the date in mysql form. So right now the box says: 07-24-2007 but I need to pass 2007-07-24 how can I easily fix this within the JS?

WHAT?! o.o frames for images?! *please hold while i twitch*

hmm, what if i change from framesets to divs first?

Damn you are fitting to the Geocities 1996 stereotype in every respect. Can I have an autograph?

hey im not using marquee

btw, that site freezes my computer
you got one point, you need *counting*

Why are you loading images in frames?

to get them randomly updated
i dont want them all to update at the same time

you should use JAVASCRIPT to update *each image*

i guess i could use prototype.js to do it but that would have me rewrite it

Then set timeouts for each image updater randomly, doh.

you dont even need prototype

… woah the #javascript in you just came out

Wait… he's using meta refreshes?

fuck yea, meta refresh
and what are you talking about 1996? arent we in 1992 still?

You mean 1993.
No actually we're in 1999 in a fantasy world created by machines.

heh, the page is just going to be running in a store, on a local machine, it's not like im careful with my coding :3
then again it might actually work by rewriting it

Well, if you code it right the first time, it tends to work right the first time.
Just a statistic you might be interested in.

dude… i have taken code from a myspace page and made it valid XHTML1… but this is pretty much hopeless without rewriting =\

haha
i wonder what the w3 validator will tell me

it'll probably tell you to go back to school
[i know i would =p]

Easy. Select all, press backspace, and add !DOCTYPE …html/html

only 2 errors though

Presuming, of course, schools teach you to code well.

it's technically valid… but it's not good

I have a scollable container div with many divs within it. I want to scroll down to a certain div (where that div is at the top). I know I need to find the pixel offset for the inner div, and set some property on the container, but I can't find any docs/info on google about which properties
those are.

it's still, valid

Any direction would be greatly appreciated

yes but i have 512MB RAM on Firefox and it almost crashed my computer
and i only have 3 programs open

well then your firefox is probably corrupt
"probably a driver issue"

no. it can handle a myspace with over 60 images on it but cant handle your page

what's the good and standard way to do a popup

There is none

it handles your myspace?

to not use one

lzhang_ you dont

Hypocrite

lol

use a popup and i will kill you, and i code html like a motherfucker

Hahaha

I just want to do one popup

well dont

A popup would be better than *that*

one question, what is it for?

it's for a little flash swf I've got from adobe that helps customers choose an adobe product
doesn't really fit in with my site… it will be triggered when a user asks for it

right….so… hidden div anyone?

I want as little js as possible…

a href="flashpopup.swf" onclick="window.open(this.href);"Open/a

want to cut out as few browsers as possible

What's wrong with anchors?

function toggle(id){ if(document.getElementById(id).style.display=="none"){ document.getElementById(id).style.display=""; } else { document.getElementById(id).style.display="none"; } }

But it's still a really annoying design idea, especially for people who like to open tabs not windows

thanks Twey

a href="flash.swf" target="_blank"?

I agree… but I am one of those ppl and I just have firefox automatically open everything in tabs

Not valid Strict

i can promise you that what i sent will work in any browser with minimal javascript.

Or equivalent.

Yeah, I do the same in Konq
What?

yo Twey

Hi Jan-

hey Jan- , there is a program especially made for that, and it's built in for windows, if you want i can figure out how to get to it not like i have anything else to do

Jan-: You mean new extension - application associations?

well that's an option actually…can you point me to some docs or something?

Yeah.

Hullo Jan-

Jan-: You can use Explorer to do basic stuff along those lines.

I can do a new extension with description text, or a new extension with an icon.

What's there to read about?

What I can't do is a new extension with description text and an icon.

Jan-: Ah.

Heh

Yes, you probably need to.

Jan-: Of course

Jan-: no, their *is* a way, i've done it before without going into the registry

I used to remember how to do it and hacked in associations and everything for OOo Portable.

Jan-: Try ##windows

The problem is if I go into Folder Options and add a new one there, I can only select the descriptive text from a dropdown.

Jan-: Although you may want to wait a bit, there's a guy talking about ripping women apart at the moment

Which is pretty stupid considering I'm supposed to be adding something new.

ok well this is a dynamically populated div with several other divs in the document…

Well, when you add a new div, add an anchor for it?

Jan-: whoa what the hell?! ugh… windows ME had better support for new file types than windows XP

The alternative would be mad numbers hacking and looking over your shoulder every five minutes for masked browser compatibality assassin ninjas.

Hmm. Well, if I add it and then do a reg search for "Adobe.Photoshop.Plugin" then within results for ".sel" I can find it

FATALITY!

Jan-: good luck

Ah… nopers, that doesn't work.
Hmmm, ContentType appears to be a MIME type.

Jan-: application/xml

should I set it?

dang you beat me lol

Sure, why not.
Jan-: MIME types are good.

XML is not an appli-fricken-cation.
It's a text file.
Naargh.

It can be.

No, it can't.
It's a text file.

Jan-: XUL
Jan-: And?
Jan-: Almost all interpreted programming languages are text files

A .js file is an application…

Jan-: That doesn't stop them being applications.

Yes, it does.
JS is a language. XML is a data structure.

Jan-: i have a server that lets the computer that gets the file figure out what type it is [except for PHP HTML and XML or text files], so mime types are important anything on my server would be perceived as a text file
bJan-: i have a server that lets the computer that gets the file figure out what type it is [except for PHP HTML and XML or text files], so mime types are important anything on my server would be perceived as a text file/b

Jan-: Both are data structures

now I have a further problem.

jafet, sorry I got kicked. My question, I guess, is simple: how do I change the coords of a div to reflect the anchor within the div?

Jan-: The difference is that XML doesn't *usually* contain instructions, just static data

I can make a double-click on a file open my app, and my app can read its commandilne.

Jan-: That doesn't have to be the case though

But if someone doubleclicks an icon while the app is already open, I don't think I have any way to accept the call to load it.

Erm, coords?

Jan-: you've gotten farther than i did lol

With anchors, you just cause the browser to load the page to that anchor.

Jan-: That's OK, just use a UNIX domain socket — oh.
bJan-: That's OK, just use a UNIX domain socket — oh. /b

What you have to do is to just establish the filetype with any old descriptive text, then change it in Folder Options.
Hmm.

Or if you're asking the user to scroll, simply use a link with an onClick handler to do extra stuff.

Jan-: I think you'd have to write an OLE object?

Jan-: thats overly pointless, even for microsoft

SHadowplay Event Library Opens with: Adobe Photoshop CS 8.0"
that wasn't quite what I had in mind.
I'm not sure. You may be right.
But it doesn't have anything to do with sockets.

Oho

hi can someone help with a regex problem, how can i validate that the string ends with @googlemail.com?

Jan-: No, you can use a named pipe

Windows has some method of doing it. I am not privy to what that method is.
Like if I have Word open and I open a word file, word will load the file.

Jan-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named_pipe#Named_pipes_in_Windows
Jan-: a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named_pipe#Named_pipes_in_Windows"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named_pipe#Named_pipes_in_Windows/a
Jan-: I thought Windows didn't have named pipes. I was evidently wrong.

i have /$googlemail.com/ but its not working

You mean /@googlemail.com$/ ?

document.getElementById(advanced).getAttribute('class') and it tells me the div has not attributes…

You also might have to escape the alias/
s,/,.,

\.

'advanced'
Not advanced

Oh

What do named pipes and sockets and other network related stuff have to do with me loading files into an already open app?

no is that how u do it?

lol

Welcome to insanity

How can I make document.writeln() write the output of a php page into the current page?

i thought $ meant go to end of string

In IE, you need getAttribute('className')
In everything else, you need getAttribute('class')

No, it's an assertion.
See http://regular-expressions.info

I bet I could add my filetype to the registry automatically on load if it isn't there using regRead and regWrite

And of course, there's absolutely no point in using getAttribute here

so what should i use instead?

Indeed, there never is in JS — it's more for use in less flexible languages without an equivalent to Javascript's property access [] notation

Hmm. Some files have ContentTypes such as application/vnd.stardivision.writer-global

hey
anyone have an idea on how to do an Ajax multi-form using a multi tab ?
i am using php in backend

I wrote a tabbed form control in JS.

/@googlemail\.com$/ ?

If you don't want it to look exactly like a Windows one, it's not too hard.
You could use an ActiveWidget.

Note you need to escape the ".". I'm not sure if you need to escape the "@".

am kinda new in js
i would need a tutorial or something

thanks dude

Multiple divs with only one visible… use the z-index or visibility style,.. use a horizontal list for the tabs.

No

What? No!

… need to escape @ in regex

hell, just a simple multi-form with ajax validation

Jan-: tabbed form control? i've done somethin like that and yea…… not very nice lookin ha ha, hopefully yours looks better than mine did

i did one, but it's weird, when i change page, the new form magically appears on the first form page

ajax o.o

change page/press submit

why do ajax when you can load it all at once and have it work that much quicker?

Oh.
Note that no matter what you do you still need to validate it server-side after submission.

well it's a contract ^o

Ah, buzzwords. Love and hate them.

Is there a good way to find the offset of an element from the top of its container element (not the document)? I understand there is some difference to how browsers interpret .offsetTop

Heh

there is no way to just force it to switch page on submit ?

I prefer AJAJ

Huh?

AJAJ?

wjson
he just doesnt use xml ?

Look! qwuiyeqwuieit!

lol

That totally fails chi-square.

So why does IE7 not run a function when I call it via onclick="javascript:advanced();" Do I have that wrong? In Firefox it work.
works*

get rid of the javascript:

Asynchronous Javascript And JSON

I did and it still didnt work

I like making up random acronyms on the spot in mockery of all the ones flying around these days.

then it has something to do with the advanced() call likely

Er, Jan ^

ffs, something is weird with this form
the first one isn't using ajax at all

"cereal" at 71.6.194.243 pasted "advanced func" (10 lines) at http://erxz.com/pb/3756

the second one yes, but it get loaded on the first page on submit

AJAX Just Ain't Xceptable

altho action="step2.php"
maybe i shall change div name in step1

Heh, I like POJ — Plain Old Javascript

What do you think it could be? Maybe IE7 doesnt like changing the class?

honestly I don't have any context

still don't work

I have http://rafb.net/p/DQECi936.html . How can I make it so whenever the user enters a quantity, it grabs the quantity and price value from that row and multiplies them, Then puts the total cost for that item in the last column?

all I saw was your one line… if you post the function and the full tag where you call it, i might be able to help
pastebin.ca

http://erxz.com/pb/3756
input type="button" value="Advanced" onClick="advanced();"

The standards committee should just fucking release their own DOM/ECMAscript/styles implementation and require that all conforming agents conform exactly to their implementation.

"The standards committee?"

anyone wanna check the form ?

Or put ECMAscript under a benevolent dictatorship like Python.

plz plz

Well, they did manage to standardize it some time back… somewhat… working…

jan-

Which standards committee? There are many

Standards are fun, non?

jafet, wanna take a look ?
shouldnt be too complicated
cheers mate

I'll pass.

hi guys _

We can still see you, you know.

http://pastebin.com/d75aa316
im trying to run a application for my cell phone
and i keep getting this error
http://pastebin.com/d75aa316
the app lets me put music onto the sd card of the cell, and its java based app

Is there a way to fix transparancy on ie6 for png images set as background

I'm new to javascript and I'm a little stuck. I have a textbox which is named "test" and I want to send the contents of test to a javascript function.. I use a button which uses onclick="myfunc(test);".. now when I submit.. firebug says url not defined.. does anyone know what I am
misssing?

drkm, you're using the variable "url" and it's not defined

the textbox should have an ID of "test"…then, to get the contents, do: document.getElementById('test').value
the variable test means nothing unless its defined somewhere else

can you use wildcards during variable assignment, or like, if an if statement? if( this.value == "test:12*" ) ?
in an if statement, rather

mcknin, I do the document.getEle…value in the function and not in the onclick right?

var xmlDoc = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLDOM"); // only works in ie.. no?

josh[n00b]: that is correct
though firefox etc all have their own xmlhttprequest object

Is there any sort of wrapper or lib that assist in treating xml as object notation via all browsers?

http://pastebin.com/d75aa316
anyone?
i tried unistalling and reinstalling
nothing will work i keep getting that
and
i have a linux box that i use the most and it wont work on nix either

Java != Javascript

thanks

depends what the function looks like, but you probably want it in the onclick

bye all

err or you could replace the test with just "this.value"
is there a way to unload + load CSS stylesheets via javascript?
(IE, i just want to replace the template of the current page)

"swap css sheet"

Oooer.
"Exception thrown and not caught"
Eeep!
What does *that* mean?

my js sends a post to a .php but the info it's sending is document.getElementById('url').value rather than the actual value of the text box?… the code I'm using is url: "document.getElementById('url').value"… where am I going wrong?

drkm, pastebin more of your code than just that one line

thats the only bit that is cause the error
instead of it sending the content its saying document.getElementById('url').value as text.. can you see why?
saying = sending

for(var k=0;kN;++k) str += 'A';

Yeah.

drkm, i repeat, pastebin more of your code than just that one line

probably because you're not actually executing the JS, drkm

for(var k=0;kN;++k) str += 'AA';

lol

while(str.lengthn){str+='A'} is probably nicer

problem is i don't know if the number of A's is dividible by two
Jan-: but slower i imagine

foo= new Array(10); foo.join('A');

Jan-: AAAAAAAAA

….sneaky
foo= new Array(10).join('A');

Jan-: AAAAAAAAA

new Array(10).join('A');

Jan-: AAAAAAAAA

Array(10).join('A');

Jan-: AAAAAAAAA

when evaluated none of those are going to make a difference

It ain't getting much faster'n that.
Quite.
But he seems to be after minimum character count

though it is a quite bit more elegant

I don't know how fast join() is.

let's find out, shall we

I presume array creation is reasonably optimised, but join is hardly the world's most prominent method.

informal testing shows the array join method is like 5x faster
more like 4x
on a string of 1 million a's
function doIt(){var a = new Date(); new Array(1000000).join('A');var b = new Date(); console.log(b-a)}
function doIt2(){var a = new Date(); for(var k = 0; k 1000000;++k) str+= 'A';var b = new Date(); console.log(b-a)}

var foo = []; foo.join("Pizza");

err actually i used
function doIt2(){var a = new Date(); var str = "";for(var k = 0; k 1000000;++k) {str+= 'A'};var b = new Date(); console.log(b-a)}
function doIt2(){var a = new Date(); var str = "";for(var k = 0; k 1000000;++k) {str+= 'A'};var b = new Date(); console.log(b-a)}

undefined

err
function doIt2(){var a = new Date(); var str = "";for(var k = 0; k 1000000;++k) {str+= 'A'};var b = new Date(); console.log(b-a)}; doIt2();

Error: Error: out of memory at line 0: (null)

intriguing
var a = new Date(); var str = "";for(var k = 0; k 1000000;++k) {str+= 'A'};var b = new Date(); console.log(b-a);

Error: Error: out of memory at line 0: (null)

simple robot.
a roomba could do that

'to use irc channel js-bot to benchmark is stupid!'.toUpperCase()

TO USE IRC CHANNEL JS-BOT TO BENCHMARK IS STUPID!

good.

"look what you made me did" (sic)

var str = "et a %% value %.1f %lhd %ld %hld %2$s between %lld %d and %d %s%d"; RegExp.lastIndex = 0; var r = /%(\d+\$)?([\+\-\#])?(\d|\*)?(\.(\d|\*))?((h[^l]+)|(l[^h]+)){0,2}?[diufgGxXsc%]/g; var s = []; while ((x = r.exec(str)) != null) { s.push(x[0]); }

5

slightly-thinner-brain?

so i have some xml in a var called xml conviently enough.. now i want to access the children node and elements from this xml… is there a good source for this?

omg what have i started up there

We're fairly convinced the array method is fastest

firebug is saying that this has no properties.. is this wrong? var title = document.getElementById('title').value;

drkm, do you have an element with an ID of "title" in your document?

Jan-: thx for the help.
Jan-: my html inline lz77 decoder is now working

lz77?

Jan-:its a compression algo

uhhuh
oh, to save bandwidth?

Jan-: yeah. i have some data lz77 encoded and base64 encoded inside a javascript string

oh god hang on, you're the nutter with the JS image rendering, aren't you

Jan-: yeah

be aware it's much faster to render columns of divs or spans than it is rows.
If you render columns, you can just put each column in its own DIV, and let the DIVs inside flow downward automagically.
If you render rows, you have to set a position on every one.

"automagically"

yeah I do.. this code all worked until I moved document.getElement into the var..

does mean your coords get rotated 90 degrees

drkm, i'm not psychic, i can't magically debug code i can't see

Jan-: i render using canvas

Aw, that's cheating.

Jan-: and if not available i fall back to table
Jan-: because divs are too slow
Jan-: i checked all the possibilities
Jan-: also base64 decoding is done using atob if available

atob?
Also are you doing any RLE?
There's no CANVAS in IE, is there?

tag that allows access to another JS file?

Jan-: No
Jan-: There's some simulate-canvas-hack available, erm, using their … WDML crap or whatever it's called

Jan-: atob does base64 decoding

Standardista script type="text/javascript" src="somejsfile.js" /script

Ah okay, that will load the content of the file, and then run the code inside the tags afterwards?

yeah, best to use an onLoad function though, so the page is actually loaded
that or put the script tag at the bottom of the page

when i supply a variable to a function and inside the function i change its value, does its value also change outside of the function?

ah this is for a tricky redirect pricky, so page loading won't be needed.

is it always pass by reference?

thanks for the insight!

np
iLees, if the variable is declared outside the function prior to execution, you can change it's value from the function gloabally
but if the var is localized to the function, it'll stay there
least I think that's right

thx. i'll do a little test

instead

xhtml steez

hm does anyone know how firefox's atob method handles padding characters?

Ok, is there a way to make a JS wait for a function to complete before it goes on to the next one?

hm what are the major browsers beside Firefox, Opera, IE, Safari … ?

IE7, IE6, FF, Safari, Opera, Konqueror.

Konqueror is KDE?

I think if you're covering those, you're already being generous.

Those are the big ones. Anything else (text browsers, icab, other) are minor

Opera is rare enough that it wouldn't be a big deal to me.

Jan-: I disagree. Opera is being used on more and more embedded devices, such as the Nintendo Wii

lol a asci drawing routine for those would be cool. i have already some code for that

So long as you cover IE, Firefox and Safari, my attitude is that you're being unnecessarily obtuse.

Jan-: Plus it's very standards compliant so most of the time FF code works okay in Opera

er, obtuse if you don't use one of them.
The thing is, by the time you have it working in IE, Firefox and Safari, you are liable to have fairly portable code anyway.

thx guys. i will make sure that my useless page works with all of them
bthx guys. i will make sure that my useless page works with all of them/b
hm interesting opera does not redraw its canvas until you resize the window
even if the content has changed
this bug has been know for 6 months now

somenody got a nice and easy scrollbar class/script ?

what is wrong with browser scrollbars?

it looks ugly with the rest of mine "design"

why do you need a scrollbar at all? nowadays everybody has mousewheels

lsand?
and*
i still need to scroll my text

hi all
i've pb with js and IE7
a,d IE6 too

usually peanut butter(pb) comes on jelly sandwiches(js)

Why is this erroring in IE?? http://www.anonymous-browsing.com/SpottedHere/ It says Object not supported.. wtf?

`ie debug

Best(Visual Studio): http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/ , OK and Free(Script Debugger): http://xrl.us/sr7a , Leak Detector: http://outofhanwell.com/ieleak/index.php?title, or see `js firebug

`ie debug @ josh[n00b]

josh[n00b]: ie debug: Best(Visual Studio): http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/ , OK and Free(Script Debugger): http://xrl.us/sr7a , Leak Detector: http://outofhanwell.com/ieleak/index.php?title, or see `js firebug