alright just wondering what the pick up artist is doing in Installation and configuration is that some sort of
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hi … i'm using dast … looks great … there are some minor think to get started. Wanno know?
Hi, sorry the link for the deps was misspelled
ngnp:Or did you get it working…cool…tell me what you think
yeh .. but joe cool is not so cool … hard coded … took me x mins :-/ But i'm now at installed site. Wants to : http://dast/install.php?profile=default so wget srewed?
i think this is my tool to hug 
ngnp:What's hard-coded?
ext/MYSQL5-CREATE-DRUPAL-DB.sql contains : DRUPAL6, joe, cool
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ngnp:oh the SQL script…that's yours to change…use whatever username/pass and db name, and just update the properties file
ngnp, In dast-patch.properties set the drupal.database.url=mysql://yourname:yourpass@yourserver/yourdb with whatever you use in the MYSQL5-CREATE-DRUPAL script
did i missed someting from the docs?
i understand … maybe replace token applied to CREATE-DB
ngnp, http://groups.drupal.org/node/5124
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ngnp, Also README.txt has fairly detailed info
couldn't find info about ext/ dir so pressumed the sql host was paramd. Shall I make a patch to do that?
ngnp, you're right, I should have mentioned that you need to manually change the script. Sure, if you want to parameterize the script go right ahead, all help appreciated at this point
ngnp, but what wa the issue with wget?
i thing the ' autorun the Drupal installer to bootstrap' never made it.
seen Heine
Heine was last seen in #drupal 15 hours 12 min ago saying 'I've more news, pm?'.
ngnp, Hmm… Could you check the log - dast-patch-install-output.log
ngnp, It will be in the dir specified by build.log.defaultdir - on *nix the default is /var/log
wget recieved 943 bytes. But were?
pastebin?
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http://www.pastebin.ca/651032 (write permission) … and i cannot fit it. chmod 666 not helping
hi
ngnp, 666 is what rw for everyone?
y
yep … my laptop … so i don't see what's wrong now. Installed drupal many times… this is the first drupal web host 6 … could it be that?
how can i scratch my head. what irc sentence?
ngnp, try /me tugs on beard
python?
is there a module that takes care of image sizes? ie i specify the widht and the height and they are sesized proportionally?
imagecache and imagefield.
imce?
btu they're not magical.
you have to set 'em up properly.
is this the modula name? imce?
ngnp, but the $db_url is set correctly in settings.php…it would mean that the user running the script had rights to write to the file
It contains $db_url = 'mysql://joe:cool@localhost/DRUPAL6'; I must be :-[ something of my settings. Don't want to waste your time though.
ngnp, what OS on your laptop?
linux
is the mysql running ?
mysql
dsoundmn, me?
very good question … the database it gone :-! wtfk …
very good question … the database mysql or postgresql hosting it gone :-! wtfk …
dsoundmn, thanks
sorry - was afk for a sec - did that help ?
i don't understand … output from run 'mysql://joe:cool@localhost/DRUPAL6 is now available.'
yup i'm confused on that one too then
ngnp, dsoundmn, when the script creates the DB it does a query using the db_url to test that the db_url can be reached…
scripts running fine on mysql database services schema …
ngnp, so the db is up?
yes … it allready was. Doing a refresh the wrong was. Give me 20 mins
byes … it allready was. Doing a refresh the wrong was. Give me 20 mins /b
anyone here responsible for the handbooks on drupal.org?
a_m_c, a fe wyes
*few yes
alright, just wondering what "the pick up artist" is doing in "Installation and configuration"… is that some sort of wiki-system where everyone can post what they want or how did that get there?
a_m_c, can you provide a link please
it's listed here http://drupal.org/handbooks and here's the page http://drupal.org/node/165801
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a_m_c, it's spam. deleted. Thanks for the report
aye, np
blocked and his other spam gone too
Michelle, you beat me to it
heh… holding baby… can't tpe much but can use mouse
our anti secure email hosting team is just too fast
anyone using swftools module and/or j. wijering flash player? getting a playlist to generate in the right folder but the module cant associate it with the player….
i wonder
could we setup druplicon to send notices here when items are flagged ?
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a_m_c, btw, it's usually easier to say "spam + link", rather than ask. There's almost always someone in here that can deal with it
ajk^, alright, I'll do that next time, I didn't know it was a common occurrence
it's very common
we just deal with it as and when it arises
so anyone can post new pages to the handbook? no special privileges required?
registered users can. It's part of the way it works, otherwise how would we build a knowledge base if posting was restricted to "the few"
fortunatley more people write useful stuff than spam
i think it's in my hosts config combine with mysql server. I go make it all localhost.
well letting everyone post pages is a good thing of course, but wouldn't it be better if there were a moderation queue for promoting stuff to places like the handbook, or maybe even for just making it public
a_m_c, if the spam prob grows then maybe, but it's not that bad so until it is pref to allow registered users to post to it
alright, I guess that works
a_m_c, we just rely on users also being spotters, just like you
I'm just worried it might look bad with spam inside these kind of official or at least semi-official documents… it makes it look like drupal is leaky towards spam
spam usually lives less than one hour and any web app is leaky towars spam…
There used to be a moderation queue but it got lost in a version upgrade
Funny thing is there's a discussion on the list about opening things up _more_
bFunny thing is there's a discussion on the list about opening things up _more_/b
killes, sure, but I'm just saying that it looks bad, it doesn't matter whether drupal really is leaky or not, it's just the impression that it gives
I don't care about peope who get such impressions. 
well we should even if everyone knows you shouldn't let these kind of things affect your judgement, subconsciously they do, so they are important, at least I believe so
a_m_c - We (well, other than killes care, but the benefit of anyone being able to help with the docs outweighs the problems with short lived spam at this point
Michelle, aye, I hear ya, it's not a big deal as long as it doesn't get out of hand
great tool / stupid user … i created a new hosts entry : dast … a2ensite dast did the trick.
Yeah, so far we manage to keep on top of the private and secure spam free hosting services pretty well
a_m_c, it hasn't yet got out of hand. The usual life span of spam on d.o is minutes (thx to people like you) who report in here (#drupal) and by the d.o webmaster's issue queue. But thx for your concern
does anyone know Todd Hoff (http://highscalability.com/, was dugg and down yesterday
Heh, with that URL, that's ironic
ngnp, ok so you were able to download core + modules / install and patch successfully?
it was funny
the story was about the scalability of digg.com, 10 minutes on digg and plop
Ouch
My site would roll over and die if it was ever dugg
didn't patch yet. But yes … i like DAST
the prob was that site dast was not enabled in apache so it landed on my drupal/default which was not configed.
i meant drupall5 dev environment.
ngnp, 0.2 is going to have scripts for configuring Apache, MySQL and PHP
mmmh … no user? This is a little different then drupal5. Just created one.
ngnp, you mean the admin user?
yep … but then again this is drupal6 so i have to learn. Or should dast create user 1 automatic?
my prob is solved 
. It's was apache conf :-/
anyone have an idea where in the database should i search for the content of a particular node?
Revisions table, I think
node_revisions?
http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/node_revisions
ngnp, right now it only runs the installer to create the tables and such and then you take over to name the site and create the admin user and so on…
ngnp, but the .2 release will have a script that does the remaing stages
that fine.
I feel like an idiot for asking this, but is there any way to get full control over how my custom nodetype is rendered without defining my own callback? because, it might just be me being tired, but hook_view() doesn't seem to give you very much control over this
where can i read more about .2?
soory … home page dast
ngnp, project page still only for version 0.1 if you want to look at the code, check CVS
http://cvs.drupal.org/viewvc.py/drupal/contributions/modules/DAST/src/tests/etc/tasks/ApacheHttpdConfTaskTest.xml?view=markup
thanks for your patience. I'll watch DAST
ngnp, yeah thanks for trying it out. I'll make the change to the script and docs you suggested
nice…
How can i help apart from that patch i proposed?
ngnp, right now the thing DAST needs most is advocacy, so far you're the first person I've gotten any feedback from, so if you can encourage anybody else to try it out that would be great
ngnp, It's a tool that has a huge number of uses
well … I go to froscon.de so …
ngnp, what dates is it?
i want to use dast for multi site installation. This looks better then sitemanager.module
sept 25
oeps … august 25-26
ngnp, well from installation to patch-testing, to benchmarking different configs, unit-testing, it's got of potential. code-wise the 0.2 release should have the deisgn and API nailed down so if you're interested in writing scripts wait until 0.2
ngnp, it's going to be this week *crosses fingers*
0.2?
http://www.crazyapplerumors.com/?p=907 lol
hey all
hiya
how is it possible with drupal_get_path to get the path of the currently selected theme?
what should I put as $name?
or what other function should I call?
so, the question is really how to get the name of the current theme, right?
or the path of the current theme
path_to_theme()
drupal_get_path('theme','name of current theme') gets the path - just how to get that name…
path_to_theme()
global $theme?
path_to_theme() is only available in the template, no?
hey, nice
no
hm i could swear i tested that 10 minutes ago and it didn't work
then test again
if it does not work
I tried with base_path() . path_to_theme()
Drupal version?
5.2
nope
path_to_theme
ah indeed, no need for base_path, that's what broke it
thanks
putting lightbox integration in the asset module
Anyone know Ayman? That's the maintainer of the flatforum module… I'm just wondering if anything is going to happen with it. It works in 5 but there isn't a release which confuses people
question, how do i display more than one check box per-module in the Modules area? I want to do something similar to the even module, it adds 4 checkboxes instead of 1
it should also have a big notice that it doesn't work for Garland
it's in the readme but people don't tend to read it
readme?
whats that?
LOL
lolz
so does anyone know how to do this?
wmostrey - True, but it works for other themes. I'm just wondering if the maintainer is going to do anything more with it
And it woudl be nice to have an actual release for in update_status
i figured it would be obvious so i fed the event.module to bluefish, but im not seeing anything
who's gonna fix http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal?
bobsumbody - Add more checkboxes for what?
each module has exactly one checkbox
The event module doesn't have any more checkboxes that I can see
Michelle, you know how the event module displays 4 checkboxes in the modules area?
Just one for enabled
well I want to do three segments in one box for a brochure module
if a single director has multiple .module/.info files in it then each one will get a checkbox
well there has to be another way
Oh, I thought he meant adding more checkboxes than just enabled
No… That would be the way
One checkbox per module but you can have multiple modules per project
if you are talking about adding more checkboxes to the admin/build/modules page that is THE way to do it
look @ throttle modiule
if you are talking about adding more checkboxes to any page, yes, there are many ways to do that
yeah i know that
greggles, if you look at the event module it contains one info file
and it serves up 4 handy little check boxes
but i cannot find the actual text for these things anywhere in the source
which version of event?
Hey all
The event module has an info file for each of the modules
That's why it has more listed there
greggles, latest version, i got it about a week ago
There's event, event_views, event_allday
basic_event
Only 3 in the latest version, btw
That's not in the latest anymore
oh
i c
there are like 3 different latest versions - 5.x-1, HEAD, 4.7 - please be specific
5.x-1
also note http://cvs.drupal.org/viewvc.py/drupal/contributions/modules/event/contrib/?hideattic=0
Yeah, V1 still has basic event, so 4 for that
so, the event tar.gz file contains many .info files
what language is http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal? ?
Danish?
no idea
greggles, oh ok, i see it now, i didnt notice the child dir's in event, i was looking at a file list so I didnt see the folders
lol
it is supposed to be Danish. :p
im sitting hear WTF'ing my computer for nothing
Danish = denmark?
if so, morten will certainly do this if he knew that we needed it done
# Dansk
alright back to the code, thanks for the help guys
n gals
Danish is the language spoken in Denmark
kkaefer: great - I will mail morten.dk and ask him
or I will just ping mortendk here
ping!
didn't see you
i /think/ i found a bug in user_admin_account. pager_count is called with a NULL for the $query_count argument. because a join is made from user.uid = user_roles.uid, the count(*) is off because user_roles has a one to many uid to rid. patch for DRUPAL-5: http://drupal.pastebin.org/330
i wonder if that made any sense
haha
file an issue, please
how do i do that?
visit http://drupal.org/project/drupal and see "Report new bug"
cheers
cheers to you for finding it!
pooong
!
shall i submit my patch?
fix this please: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal
please
ok
mark it as "patch (code needs review)"
also, it would help to describe 1) the exptected behavior 2) the observed behavior
goddammit oooookay then
just translate the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal to the language of the vikings ?
that would be brilliant
well everything for you my friend
and maybe slip in a link for "Morten.dk is the king of denmark" while you're at it
and it's not for me, of course, it's for Drupal and http://willy.boerland.com/myblog/9_8_2007_put_drupal_in_your_wikipedia
well that woudnt be a problem -are you going to bacelona
naturally I am!
oooh the English page lost {{advert}}
hats off
ooh yeah i saw that bert were going nutter by the wikipedia takeover
let's hope it stays that way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal had an {{advert}} tag?
yes
will do
but now all references to sites using drupal is removed
so it's better
http://freshmeat.net/projects/drupal/ is still horribly out of date…
it was removed by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrew_Hampe
15 year old from wisconsin - with some wikipedia credibility, but not a ton - perhaps it will come back
is that your nephew
hmm hampe is a danish psudonym for pot / hemp / has / weed btw
Advertisement?
It's a freakin' web site platform. You link to web sites made with it.
let's hope not
only to sites that have wikipedia pages
that's the policy.
ahh
that's strange.
what is the direct translation of hampe? or is there one?
like, say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowpublic
it adds/added a rel="noref" to external urls, you would think that enough..
hamp = weed
ah
smoke weed = hampe
well my language is kinda funny with the endings n time n stuff - ill give a crash course in barcelona
very good
it looks like he tagged it as an advert himself earlier as well..
ah, interesting
he tagged http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProFTPd as well
is that your nephew — Nope, no relation
what targets does phing support … docs fails a little
Hi
What EXACTLY are teasers?
I don't understand the explanation on the drupal.org site
?
a small text to be shown on a index page or article listing for instance to arouse interest
it can be a capitulation of the article, or just the beginning few sentinces
Ah
I see
A bit like the cutenews feature "Short story" and the full page is "Long Story" right?
hmm
ok
exactly
thanks
Okay
When I install a module
I need to put the .module file in a seperate folder right?
ok
be sure to also include the .info file
or else the module will not show up in the module list
sorry … there's a doc dir. I want to do use copy/filterchain/replacetokens any suggestion
Can views be nested?
I only have a README.TXT and LICENSE.TXT file, apart from the teaser.module file
did you download the drupal 5 version?
I sure hope so
:/
I'll download the 5 version and replace it then
it appears the teaser module is really out of date
nov 2006
it doesn't have a drupal 5 version
what exactly are you looking for?
the… teaser module
yeah but what functionality, since the teaser module is outdated
Er
you'll need to find another module
I dunno
Ok
:p
So is there a module for Short story/Long story?
similar
?
excerpt
drupal works with teasers (short stories) by default
http://drupal.org/project/excerpt works as well, indeed
money cck field is done see http://drupal.org/project/money
okay
congrats cck + lightbox integration is also almost done
I need to get the jscript working with fieldsets
lightbox integration? You mean asset + lightbox for images?
exactly
k
cool
with the inclusion of image galleries in lightbox
with the inclusion of http://www.oxxus.net/4images-hosting.htm">image galleries in lightbox
just wondering, why do you prefer lightbox over thickbox?
hey!
it's neclimdul's now
so that you can show 2 images on the node, but the lightbox can have all 10 images in the gallery
bso that you can show 2 images on the node, but the lightbox can have all 10 images in the gallery/b
it's actually CA that made that choice
heh, k
What does the lightbox do?
ehm?
questions for support
I've got the same question again ^^ What's the answer this time?
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ping
pong
i might also add thickbox, greybox and highslide integration, but that will be in my own time
neclimdul's
oh ok
he's taking it over
hows views_subscriptions?
ahhh
same question as chx here
didn't get to it last night, getting some things out of the way so I can start working on it
will be shortly
there, things now out of the way
:P
haha
chx the dragon ^^
ping
hi everyone
I have a quick question, You see here my organisation , we installed the simplenews module
and now we are trying to disable it and wipe all traces of it out of our database
I deleted all the database tables, but the newsletters still exist
My Drupal install is Drupal 5.2
I hate to bother y'all — but I've got something that is blowing my mind so hard, and I'm not sure if it's a bug in Drupal (I doubt it), blog module (maybe?), or somehow a bug in … my theme? When I go to admin/build/block/list/cmlp (my custom theme) there's no $tabs and the title is set to "Sam Bayard's Blog." Something with menu is effed. When I _menu_get_active_trail, and menu_get_item each one, I see http://drupal.pastebin.com/d3369ecf4
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was that to me, too?
likely not as you are coding
and not for dear life I will go debugging someone's else menu setup
*someone else's
if you find such a daring soul, congratulations
understood; I just have no idea how that admin menu ended up buried somewhere in primary links; thanks tho
a little hint. I have rewritten the menu system from ground up for Drupal 6 because noone around seemed to be able / willing to fix inherent problems with the old menu.
it's a very scary place where we prefer not go to.
lol well then I'm quite appreciative for D6
looks like I'll be rolling up my sleeves
yes
variable_set?
http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/variable_set
4 IRC mentions
this is the only advice I can give you.
ping
Can someone give me an example of creating a patch for multiple files in multiple directories that would get executed from the root Drupal directory…I've never made a patch like that.
foo.patch
Don't you have to diff against something?
you diff agains . (which is the current dir)
rdwest came back
So that diffs the current root directory against the old patch?
Or I'm I just missing something…
against the old patch? dunno what that shall mean
Oh, jeebus. I reallly confused.
it diffs your current working copy with all changes against cvs
Ah.
What if I was dumb enough not to check out that way?
which way did you check out?
I just downloaded a tarbar and went for it.
http checkout.
that makes it much harder
awesome.
that won't work.
sweet
do the following:
checkout drupal from cvs, copy your current, changed working copy over the cvs checkout, and create the diff with the command I just gave you
that should work
Very smart - thanks.
good morning everyone
Has anyone here successfully implemented drupal_execute()? I'm having trouble making it work and is driving me crazy…
pasebin your code
global $user;
$node = array('type'='custom_poll');
$values = array();
$values['name'] = $user-name;
$values['field_musician_value'][0]['value']=$form_values['musician'];
$values['field_song_value'][0]['value'] =$form_values['song'];
$values['title']='song name';
$values['status']=1;
drupal_execute('custom_poll_node_form', $values, $node);
I'm using cck fields, btw
only title is saved and cck fields are not saved.
paste_bin_: not paste
sorry, dunno what 'paste_bin_' is.
pastebin?
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thanks
what kind of cck fields are these?
select, checkbox?
it's just a normal textbox
to be precise, it's a text field, 1 row, required, plain text. no maximum length. no value is disallowed
i found that we have cache-install.inc, to serve during installation. is it also possible to make variable_get/set become usable during installation?
seen allisterb?
allisterb was last seen in #drupal 2 hours 11 min ago saying 'ngnp, it's going to be this week *crosses fingers*'.
ngnp, pong
hi
how do i output one of those cute red warning messages at the top of a page?
drupal_set_message?
http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/drupal_set_message
ok cool thx
put 'error' in the type arg to make it red
ok thx
Anyone know how to run apache ab as a logged in user?
Or if it's even possible.
I seem to recall it had an argument to pass a session ID.
But I'm not really sure. I've only ever tested it as anon.
wget does for sure, if nothing else.
hm. Thanks. Makes sense.
It's pretty amazing. I leave and almost every mailing list I watch closely explodes with activity.
lol
ab has a -C attribute for setting the cookie
interrresting.
yeah, use that
ab -C 'PHPSESSID=ab234adks8….'
or whatever your site's cookie name is
Study finds that the 'baby einstein' stuff not only doesn't help make your kids smarter, it hurts their development! (Shocker) http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1650352,00.html
well, the "PHPSESSID" part is not neccessarityl right
LOL
are you serious?!
I said that
that's very interesting.
We have a nephew whose mother was crazy about giving him those videos.'
And his speech is VERY under-developed.
true, sorry
You can tell that he's smart as a whip (the kid's playing GBA and beating Super Mario Bros. at 3 years old), but he has extreme difficulty in speaking.
I mean, are therey *really* people who believe that putting a toddler in front of a tv will make him or her smarter?
well, they'll probably put the kid there anywa and are glad to have an excuse. |-/
Yea. So my surrogate nephew here is 2 and a half years old. He can speak complete sentences and short paragraphs. he has a huge vocabulary (for a 2 year old). And he gets about an hour of TV a week. Now, I'm going to credit genetics at least some — his parents are both really really smart people — but they're also extremely active with him, which I think is the most important part.
uYea. So my surrogate nephew here is 2 and a half years old. He can speak complete sentences and short paragraphs. he has a huge vocabulary (for a 2 year old). And he gets about an hour of TV a week. Now, I'm going to credit genetics at least some — his parents are both really really smart people — but they're also extremely active with him, which I think is the most important part./u
This article seems to be saying something slightly different though; and just putting babies in front of TV in general is not a good idea.
….
My son never liked baby einstein… Too slow
no, looks like it got it all.
Yes. The sad part about babies & TV is that psychologists have been saying this for years. TV has a detrimental effect on development.
and yeah, that's a good point.
"This growing evidence led the Academy to issue its recommendation in 1999 that no child under two years old watch any television." — wow!
Mine watches way too much TV. I swore he wouldn't watch any but I got lazy
yea, it's really seductive to use the TV that way.
I think I have an advantage; I watch a LOT less TV than I used to.
And i've long refused to have a TV anywhere but in the TV-watching-room.
So. We'll see how well I hold out.
Mine actually shuts the TV off, now, though. He's getting himself unaddicted somehow. LOL
Wow. Good for him!
Though he's watching PBS right now while I"m nursing Josh
I think that an active parent is the key there.
Yeah, I think that's part of the problem. I'm not in good enough shape to be really active
Mentally active
Oh, that way. I was thinking more physical. If I could get out and run around with him more we'd use the TV less
I'm just so tired allthe time it's easier to say go watch tv
There's always books.
I read to him when he lets me… He goes through phases with that
It's true, and that certainly would help, but you also use the tools you have. is this something his dad can do instead of you?
Yeah, his dad is a bit more able to actively play
Winter is the real problem. During the summer, we are usually gone a big chunk of the day so no TV then
Being lazy today… It poured this morning so the parks are all wet so we're just hanging otu at home
hmm, I remember that I have not been allowed watching TV but sunday morning from 8 to 10 am
until I was like six or seven
drupal_add_js?
http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/drupal_add_js
My plan was no TV until 2 years old at least but, well, that didn't happen
I didn't park him in front of it as a baby, though
I think he was at least a year before he really got any significant tv
I still remember him being about 4 months old and he kept trying to turn and see the TV and I kept turning him away. LOL
Hubby is a TV addict, so no TV on in the house will never happen… Best I can do is keep the kids occupied with other things
Ok, I guess everyone else is done talking about this… Shutting up now
Nah I got distracted by said baby
It sounds like you've been more successful than you give yourself credit for
Hey so, I'm about to release tinderbox source code as a new open source project, Affero GPL v3
Mine is on my lap nursing, so computer time for me
What VCS do you guys like
SVN/CVS/Git/etc ?
svn
TV is a guilt button for me, I think… I tend to alternate justifying it and beating myself up whenever the topic comes up
Anyone second the motion?
but that's really a personal flavor
basically you can use any vcs
Yeah, I like SVN too personally
But, this Git/other distributes VC stuff sounds interesting too
SVN it is
I kinda like monotone
Hmm, I can use the CIA tool thing to track source
Which is good, since I don't have alot of time to manage this project, but I *KNOW* there are 50+ projects that'd give their right arm for it
Which is good, since I don't have alot of time to manage this project, but I *KNOW* there are 50+ projects that'd give their right arm for it
bWhich is good, since I don't have alot of time to manage this project, but I *KNOW* there are 50+ projects that'd give their right arm for it/b
to lunch!
Steak
Macronni Salad
Coldslaw
Yum
your tinderboy stuff isn#t a Drupal module, is it?
no
I don't think it would be good for it to be one, it would probably limit it
so…what eclipse php environment are people liking these days
when I last checked there were like 3 of them
Ijust asked becasue of license complications. :p
what is the best way to manage css, js and html content when dev-ing a module?
hi … still testing eclipse?
I've used it before and want it back
but just installed ubuntu and am unsure the best eclipse now
it's called "Komodo"
:P
I tried komodo and _hated_ it
why
i installed feisty and then the package eclipse … then installed pde
don't remember - I think just buggy
general bugginess - keyboard shortcuts not working or not existing
pde?
not pdt?
typo … pdt as an find and install upgrade/update
if you have the "comment submit" problem again,please record the headers
hmmm i do not see eclipse-pdt in the package list.
I have it on issues as well now
I will record headers this time
anyone for .. how to manage css, html and js?
your question is too broad
"manage" doesn't mean anything to me
I "manage" my css in svn
eclipse is slow on ubuntu. I hate that so switch to vim
I "manage" my css by getting a designer to do it for me
etc.
http://downloads.zend.com/pdt/all-in-one/1.0/
ok .. when including css i have to remove the style tag, same goes for js. And i hate that.
Yeah, well
there are none really, I could use GPL3 without any issue
ngnp, I suggest looking at how other modules define theme_* functions and how they use drupal_add_css / drupal_add_js
"or, at your option, any higher version" (paraphrase)
so they final made it to 1.0 … is that usable then?
they are 1.0 betas
look at the oriignal pdt page
well, now the problem is gone
I'll leave headers recording for a while and see if it happens again
I mean, it's gone! =D
ping
ack
well, we didn't make any change.
interesting…I'll keep an eye out
?
I'm looking at pathauto 5–2. It does not seem to have an option to strip punctuation (e.g. "?") which then ends up in the URL as %nn. Is the i18n-ascii file the solution for this?
there is no solution for that currently
Okay.
pardon me…
No worries.
if you enable transliteration (even if you have a blank i18n-ascii.txt) then it will strip out everything but A-z0-9
it's about the location within the module. There is no standard way. css are in the root om module … js are sometimes in js/ .. going to do that then :-/
so, that's the "solution"
That actually will work perfectly, thanks!
the ultimate solution is a separate settings page with every "punctuation" character as a list and then a set of radio buttons with "leave alone, replace with separator, remove"
but I dread writing that
for no good reason
Well, it could also be like the list of words to remove but it will require different regexp handling.
"\b?\b" is not a useful regexp
you can't have two word breaks in a row
got a repeat of the bug
Exactly. You also can have \b? at all, it's illegal. That's why you can't put "?" in the list of words to remove.
s/can have/can't have/
pong
greggles:
that was quite some turnaround time. anyways, the flickr block is broken on http://chxcannotbedistracted.com/
LOL @ narayan's reply on the infra list.
and thanks.
Dude:
flickr block works for me
"hey maybe OSU are running Gentoo off a Live CD?"
works here too
"You're a tool." (but in a really nice way)
oh.
I lay on the floor when I read that
and i was out running errands sorry
sure.
ah yes
my ad filtering went berserk.
"you are tool" ?
never heard this phrase before
means like "you're a complete dumb-ass"
idiot, etc.
yeah
" I'm a world class record holder in desktop 3D Benchmarking scores."
that spell volumes
lol
Ah well. His intentions were good.
Just… really needs to do some research before he speaks.
not to mention that all these script kiddies who buy two 8800Ultra cards and a quad core proc and then say 'i have a world class record in desktop 3D'
have never even been close to that
"I'm a world class record holder in desktop 3D Benchmarking scores."
those records are hold by zealots who use liquid nitrogen to cool their systems
those records are hold by zealots who use liquid nitrogen to cool their systems
is this the same reason insecure men buy sports cars?
yes
see infra list
ahhh infra
at least if you buy a sports car it might get you laid
somebody thought he has balls and basically tried to challenge osuosl over gentoo
thread "Gentoo Optimizations?"
whahahaha
"I have a friend that is sysadmin over an IRC network and he has all the servers on amd64/em64t Gentoo and hasn't had a glitch.
have we played guess the kid's age yet?
"Gentoo isn't an easy install done by Stage1 or a 1/3."
answer
"
We have two Gentoo developers on staff, one being a lead Gentoo
Infrastructure Manager. On that note, we host quite a bit of Gentoo's
infrastructure and regularly work with their developers.
headers sent
nice response
yeah, wow. I was totally impressed by your restraint.
he basically asked you, "Are you sure you remembered to turn the computer on?" and you were able to answer him succinctly and yet politely. +1
in my experience, that's the best way to tell a kid like that to shove it
bin my experience, that's the best way to tell a kid like that to shove it/b
yeah, hats off
don't be so rude, you make Khalid unhappy. :p
can someone please forward that message to johan at forngren dot com?
bah, khalid is in egypt. i'm safe
it's in the list archive, I suppose
but the list archive is private
oh
*g*
'Oh, well, here's your problem. The engine's been replaced by a wedge of cheese.' :^)))
interesting, you seem to have switched webheads…
how do i distingus(?=differentiate) between a hook_theme getting viewed or previewed? function theme_image_composition_image( $node, $teaser){ | // TODO: report a bug? In edit mode $node isa form!
fresh block cache patch for head, and really interesting/frustrating findings: http://drupal.org/node/80951
Drupal, base system, normal, patch (code needs review), 17 IRC mentions
Apparently nothing other than other types of caching can improve on 'normal caching' benchmarks, not even .js aggregation .css aggregation, etc and…
….for logged in users
heh..thanks. Made the morning a little more interesting
there can benchmarked improvements noticed from any kind of caching or aggregation.
logged in users don't get caching.
can be NO benchmarked improvements that is
caching is for anon users.
Apparently they don't pick up any benefit from aggregation either.
It's nuts for the blockcaching at least not to offer logged in user caching.
Who is behind chx's amazingly cool fan-site? SPAM: http://chxcannotbedistracted.com/chx-as-a-jedi#comments
I don't understand it. Aggregation seems to useless all the way around in terms of benchmarking at least. Hopefully there is some other benefit?
We cache menu items for logged in users sometimes, right. It seems like selective ability to cache other things would be good. At the moment I guess menu caching is the *only* performance enhancement one can do with authenticated users. I never completely realized.
The aggregation cuts down on HTTP requests.
And yes, we cache menu items.
There is a block cache module.
But core's "Page caching" is for anon users only.
I believe there might be a module out there that caches certain parts of the page, but I could also be making that up.
Yeah, I guess at the strained limits of a server the request would matter. With casual testing though, those reduced requests didn't equal better benchmarks.
No, they wouldn't from ab.
I'm a block cache module zealot.
It cuts down on the open requests Apache has to serve, afair.
You could always check the original issues to learn the rationale for those patches.
I'd love to see some of the abilities of that module, as it pertains to logged in users, to be transferred to the block cache api. Otherwise there doesn't seem to be much of a point.
Please code it.
A lot of people want to see D6 with better caching, bt we're running out of time.
I will, but there has to be buy in. My latest comment and patch on the thread should hopefully spark such a request from upon high.
I think there's a core patch somewhere where this was started.
eh. up to you. I tend to code first, get buy-in later. it's much easier to get buy-in when you have something working (even if just a prototype) than if throwing out ideas/conceptual stuff. It's easy to get into bikeshed discussions about conceptual stuff. People looking at actual code and going, "Oh, we could actually optimize this here, here and here" is much much better.
Yeah, true. But there's a bit of history and discussion that pre-dates my participation. I think the whole issue really need some guidance from above at this point. Dries seems to have specific ideas.
ajk^: pm?
sure
ping
pong
did you make image_import?
do anyone know how to redefine and override existing function?
that was drewish
wg 17
ahh ok, well it totally kicks ass
as does drewish
well it just imported like… nearly 3000 images for me
Forgive me if this comes off as a bit newbish, but has there been any discussion about assigning unique IDs to each unordered list in menu trees (via item parent ids, for example)?
I got a funny issue here, I have a hook_menu working that has no 'access' rules and callback to a function, when I get to the link I get a access denied.. any reason?
My designer wants to style menu items differently, depending upon where they lie within the menu hierarchy. ….
My temporary solution (Drupal 5) was to hack the menu tree (ex http://drupal.org/node/138656) and explicitly set my own classes on list items.
http://harvestchoice.cs.umn.edu/about/people/project_team
1 IRC mention
I was thinking it would be nice to simply have somthing like http://pastebin.com/d18b5c4dd
for each sucessive level in the menu
Anyway, does this sound reasonably accomplishable/desirable?
I purposefully made a request to drupalX.drupal.org/ one of the times and got a 403
just in case that had something to do with it
I also opened up new tabs a couple times to refresh it
and did "ctrl+F5" to fully refresh
down?
Yes, it's possible that drupal.org is down, but be assured that Druplicon is fighting to get it back online! You can help out by donating: http://association.drupal.org/donate and when it comes back read http://drupal.org/node/163216
Whenever I forward something on the Drupal website to my client, the server goes down.
They check it out, and the site is down. They arn't really happy with this.
Really quite ironic.
So you're saying that you're making the site go down by forwarding to your client, then?
guys, after all that effort, the drupal.org is again offline?
So, you're the responsible party.
I think your client left the site, it's back up
save the page locally and send the HTML
or take a screenshot
lol, yeah.
No, it just seems that whenever I forward them something on Drupal.org, the server goes down.
I was teasing
can I have commit on util module
sore
*sure
I'd like to commit my "node type check function"
cool
done
heh, I already have commit on that… hmmmm
Ah well, I see my menu id q wasn't terribly exciting - I supose I can post it to the Menu Tree features request list
can you describe "the server was down" somehow?
did I mention that I'm a world class record holder in desktop 3D Benchmarking scores?
wow
Server load, apparently. On groups.drupal.org.
what does that mean?
joke
the server, the server, the server's on fire
see infra
not sure, really.
we don't need no water let the m*therf*cker burn!
what message did you get?
"server load" isn't a message.
where?
http://groups.drupal.org/nodes-down.html
see "Gentoo Optimizations ? "
A quite amazing response from narayan
I need to force test to be inserted in each page
How would I best do that?
Not from a GUI side
but forcing it via .htaccess or something
(a development question)
http://drupal.org/project/devel
?
hmm
"lso includes some scripts for quickly generating lots of nodes and taxonomy terms."
any of you had a dude mailing them recently asking to optimize his drupal site
just to point out its drupal 4.5
"Unable to connect to database server" - "If you have already finished installed Drupal, this either means that the username and password information in your settings.php file is incorrect or that we can't connect to the MySQL database server. This could mean your hosting provider's database server is down."
That was the message
that would be door number two, we have a deadlock on db2 and I took it out of rotation 10 seconds too late
had*
Oh, I forgot we have 2 (3?) now.
I think we have been getting some iowait on that server, I took it out of rotation and upped the buffers a bit, it keeps handling very high load poorly
It was 2 indeed "database server is drupaldb2.osuosl.org."
ic, thanks
thanks
btw, are we still indexing something? The volatile query graph is off the charts compared to past weeks
yes
k, that explains some of thw ait
wait*
I've taken it out now.
no problem, I just didn't know we were still doing it
yeah, takes a long time
seen dww?
dww was last seen in #drupal-dev 1 day 17 hours ago saying 'anyone care to look at gabor/my latest patch here (it's for his translation SoC project) http://drupal.org/node/157514'.
http://www.subtraction.com/pics/0708/070808_dotmac_announce_rev.jpg
http://pastebin.com/d8a3f95f Some code I have in a calendar view header seems to break when the calendar has no nodes in it and rather than reading it as php it displays the code. I'm no sure why though. Any ideas?
hello, i'm trying put a focus to input, i'm using window.onload or addloadevent but i can't do it, some suggestion?
any suggestion?
$(function() { $('input').each(function() { this.select(); this.focus(); }); });
replace input with your css selector
in .js and do add_js?
for example, yes
thx a lot
in Drupal 5
yes, i'm using jtooltips and i see similiar code but i didn't understand, now i can follow this way
http://docs.jquery.com
that's what Drupal's using
thanks again
ping RobRoy:
http://pastebin.com/d8a3f95f Code breaks when no node is available and just displays code. :/
pong
pm?
k
Bon le jours
hi all
Hy
this is my first time in this room 0
oh there is drupal-themes, too!
Yeah?
I'm looking for somebody who knows how to install yum on a RHEL3 server. pm me if you can do this or if you know somebody who can.
so if I want to show my new drupal installation and ask for some suggestion I have to posto there
however, do you like my new site?
mdb.bluesman.it
ok it seems nobody is interested sorry
to be honest, it looks average
be honest
not a problem
I'm not a professional webdev.
I'm glad to be "average"
average = I don't take particular note of the design when viewing the page coming from google or something
understood
now
the site is perfect under firefox and IE7 but has 1 pixel error under the primary links
this is the only issue
i'll post on the other room
At least RDWest hasn't discovered IRC yet.
nice
davidstrauss:
from the infra list!
basically he said that we should try starting the engine
Even my highly condescending replies required enormous restraint
"Last time we broke backward compatibility, ten developers died of
consumption from the grueling labor conditions imposed by updating their
contributed modules."
I'm already surprised he isn't pissed off by the first thread
I'm getting some warning errors on previewing of blogs and preview in general isn't showing everything. http://pastebin.com/d6d92efaa
opps, wrong room
"How about Quake 2 FPS? I'd hate for Drupal.org users to be known as a
n00b laggerz who use wall hax to get teh fragz."
#drupal is no longer the wrong room for anything
"Quake 2 ?!? n00bcakez!!! Duke Nukem Forever!!!11!!!one!!"
yay!
usually, it's all those boring geek discussion stuff
Archives exist for a reason
access to those archives is restricted
Yeah, I forgot
apparently anyone can sign up to the intra list now, right?
yes
so anyone can access the archives, no?
but it's not intra
it's infra
yeah - meant infra
yes, if he signs up
I appreciated the OSUOSL response :we have 2 Gentoo developers on staff, so your input on opt flags may not be needed…
oops got to run
ping
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal done
who did it?
I dno't recognize http://da.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drupal&action=history
dunno
heh
Hmm, whose around that's on DruBB
Need to know what the hook is to respond to content creation, and if i can find specific info
hook_nodeapi?
http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/hook_nodeapi
ping
that should do it
Okay, thanks
Hmm, would there be "create content" for that particular operation, or is it
you'll want $op == 'insert'
"create page"
Ah
and $node-type == 'page'
The node is being created (inserted in the database).
pong
Yeah, i've got it now
bad wifi?
Where is the bootstrap.inc file located?
where have you looked so far?
in the includes directory
oh, im an idiot, thanks
Is it possible to provide a View from a module in the same way that one provides as block or menu, etc. ?
np
yes
Is there a mymodulename_view hook? Or an API?
ping dopry_
How does it work?
hook_views_default_views
you provide an array of views
in the same format as the export
Hmm, dmitrig01 how would i consider the length of the post that's been created?
Or the "node"
you can create a view, export it, and stick it in there
excellent
thanks
strlen($node-body)
np
Ah
look at views_bonus.module
I didn't know what that contained
how would that work with CCK nodes?
Thanks a lot, dmitrig01
it wouldn't
http://cvs.drupal.org/viewvc.py/drupal/contributions/modules/views_bonus/views_bonus_panels_threecol_term.module?revision=1.2.2.4
scroll down a bit
function views_bonus_panels_threecol_term_views_default_views() {
Heine/sepeck/webchick: I figured out color.module and I would like to document it. The docs at http://drupal.org/node/108459 are not very good. Although I am a member of the docs team, I can't edit it, I presume because the input format is full HTML. what to do?
9 IRC mentions
I had no idea that hook existed (hook_views_default_views). That's a really cool one!
I can change the input format
you wait four seconds for me to change the … or Heine.
when you say 'hook_views_default_views' is it exactly that, or is it 'mymodule_views_default_views'?
mymodule_views_default_views.
hook_something = replace hook with your module name
"hook" is always synonymous with "mymodule_"something.
like mymodule_views_default_views
So hook_nodeapi means module_name_nodeapi
Hmm, where's db_query actually stored? I'm looking in database.mysql.inc, when i search for db_query i just see _db_query, the helper function
it's in database.inc
grep -rni "function db_query" * results in include/database.inc
pastebin?
Pastebin.com is back! Please don't paste code directly into IRC. Please use http://drupal.pastebin.co.uk/, http://www.pastebin.ca/ or http://pastebin.com
Thanks
thanks
np
You're useful here
Okay, now so where's the actual MySQL schema for the userdata
guess webchick just changed the input format. Go ahead!
lol
thanks
Heine, hope you didn't mind the "/edit" on that issue?
My default views hook is not working… any idea what might be causing it?
http://www.pastebin.ca/651634
ajk^: no, silly of me to not have thought of it.
That's in mymodule.module
have you enabled the view?
what's happening?
It doesn't show up on the list. So I can't enable it.
oh
hmm
what's the name of the module?
'categories'
Not every original i know
k
is the module enabled?
yes
Heine, I'll try and get some done tomorrow in a slither of spare time but I'm then away till Mon. If there's any left after the weekend I'll try do them next tweek
hmm
Heine, also, the php syntax filter fully working on the new input filter?
two things. one is clear the views cache everytime you make code changes (admin/build/views/tools I think)
The other is don't forget to return $views; but you are, so that's not the problem.
ajk^: oh. no it's not. One sec.
I was worried that maybe the problem was in the custom argument handling code
So I converted that into heredoc notation
And now my whole site's FUBAR'd
ctrl+z
so after clearing the views cache, you don't see your view listed @ admin/build/views?
So I guess that wasn't the problem
That's the only effect that hook_default_views has.
One sec, let me try that
(Have to get my site working again first)
Ahh! That did it
Just had to clear the cache
Thanks again webchick
and you too dmitrig01
np
Hmm, if i'm making a SQL query and i want to find out the table prefix, then how do i do that?
I know you bracket it, but with what phrase?
{prefix} ?
Drupal handles adding the prefix for you
So, when i'm using db_query; how do i have it do that, then
Specifically when the module i'm making has it's own table
db_query("SELECT field FROM {table} WHERE field1 = '%s', $field1);
And, how do i define the module's own table?
or db_query("SELECT n.nid FROM {node} n INNER JOIN {my_table} m ON n.nid = m.nid WHERE …");
_userext
see hook_install
hook_install?
http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/hook_install
It's okay, i'm on api.drupal.org
Ah, i see
if you create a hook_install in my_module.install you can call db_query with CREATE TABLE {mytable} () statements.
So when i create the table, then i encapsulate with my own table name
Then, it just appends that automatically
yes
CREATE TABLE {useropts} or whatever
Excellent
best to use the modulename as namespace (module_table or so)
I am
useropts is the module name
ping
how goes
hi!
did you see Kieran's bug report about civicrm_data.ql?
..sql
no
which one
Room, is there anyone who wants to learn about the new menu API?
Hmm, where's the db schema thing again?
there's a problem with auto_increments, if your erver is set to increment by other values than 1, the import breaks.
ping
yes, i responded to that post
ok, coo
l
and its more an issue with the data files
where we make some assumptions
we can fix if needed
well, I've made the one install Kieran needed.
I just wanted to make sue you got the info.
you can add the Drupal association among your high profile users.
yeah, i asked him if it was important, and i dont think he replied to that
yep, already blogged about it
right up there with amnesty
*g*
ping
Hey, sorry about before
Oh, i've just finished the user rankings thing
So far it's only a beta but the users can acutally do more than on IPB/vB etc — you can post a user a text comment, add karma or give them astar rating based upon the content they've posted
what's only a beta?
The thing i'm making for DruBB
It's for the forum.module extensions, you can click a user's post they've made on a forum and give them a good rating for it or whatever, and also give them karma and stuff
oh
without modding core?
Yep
cool!
Then if you click someone's profile it has posting rating stats there too
And a feedback style thing there with public comments (in case they're nasty people who troll )
I have a cck field. In its hook_widget(op='validate'), I just say form_set_error(null, "Error");. This form error never actually displays or has any effect. If I call drupal_set_message("Blah", 'error'), however it does work as I expect.
What am I doing wrong here?
Err, Galaxor from looking at the code of form_set_error — if you do not set
err
If you set it as null, isset returns FALSE and drupal_set_message doesn't return anything
So if you set it as something like "error"
Maybe it'll work
http://pastebin.com/d8a3f95f Some code I have in a calendar view header seems to break when the calendar has no nodes in it and rather than reading it as php it displays the code. I'm no sure why though. Any ideas?
I asked this yesterday, but had to leave before I could get an answer, is there a drupal function that forces a database flush?
I didn't see one on a.d.o, but I might have not been using the correct terms.
pong.
a friend asked me there is a RSS standard that woulddeliver all content generated on a site…
no, there's no named standard or guidelines. but just generate an rss feed that contains all your posts, and that'd satisfy the need just fine.
well, that won't help if it isn't my site.
oh, you want to /get/ that from a site you don't control?
yeah, there's no way to do it, unless the site offers it.
i could write your friend a scraper.
I guess he could do that himself. :p
drewish, pong
this is switching between workspace type cube?
I have a 7600GS and while that card is not the fastest by there is, but a desktop should run *really* fast.
yes, this cube is switching between workspaces
Hurray, i've finished that now
You can add user ranks that also have sub ranks too, and that have prerequisites (by role, group, other ranks, number of posts)
is there a module (for 5.x) that adds a notification bar for all users when a new message (with some criteria) has been posted? something like the notice you get when you change some settings (:
Hmm, how would i throw up an error onto watchdog?
I'm not sure what to look for, and noti* does not give me any candidates
I can add it if you want :O
*grin*
I'm working on the privmessaging after i've done this
it shouldn't be too hard, which is why I though it probably already exists
Halca, http://api.drupal.org/api/function/watchdog/5
drupal_set_message?
http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/drupal_set_message
watchdog?
http://api.drupal.org/api/5/function/watchdog
^^
is there any xml api I can use to get content?
better said, is there a simple way to refresh the contents without refreshing the rest of the page
you can use AJAX
(javascript)
yes, but is there an api available for that
no
(server sidE)
ok
lol as soon as i added it in, someone who uses the test drupal i develop on has added;
- bI-don't-like-windows-vista/b: You god damn terrorist. (1 star)"
Hmm, oops.
Need to use the node title, not the node name .
line 72?
the only line that hard codes which fields are in color.module
(header top, header bottom, link, base, and one other)
I can roll a patch for head
but it's a feature
it's like 3 lines of code
call it a bug in the issue and nag Seven 
