Does this mean my harddrive can crash any time now? http://paste.debian.net/34204

no

ok, what does it mean?

it just means it has trouble enabling dma. is this sata?

it's not sata

you see this only at boot or continuously?

"accordingly" meaning? I have specified the desired resolution, however I'm getting a lower one. I have understood that a similar problem exists with some intel chips, but for those, the solution is the installment of a 9??resolution package

I also hear a sound, like it's "restarting" something every 5 minutes or so.
but I thought it came of my video card

jelly-home: As I have got a problem with ACPI since I loaded the DEB program package 'powersaved', I should like to know the answer fairly certainly.

err k then it could be dying

I'm guessing the problem is somewhere in the driver Xorg is using, but I need a clear direction, documentation-wise.

hmm, I will make anohter backup, just in case.

do you have a native SATA power connector, or a molex/sata adaptor

first you need to install the ATI drivers and make sure they are compiled into a new kernel, have you done that?

No.

ok hold on

ah. I can't help you there, apart from the obvious RTFsource.

?

I am not using SATA

ah
run SMART on it
dodgy power cabling

anyone on my apt thing?

a dead PSU
a dead HDD

I just replaced the PSU

jelly-home: What is a 'RTFsource'?

what brand, how many watts?

how do I run SMART on it?

there are 2x ATI drivers for linux, the free linux ones and the Proprietary ones, i believe the linux free ones are better.

450 Watts (Kingsomething)

amanda-client amanda-common bind9 libdigest-md5-perl libdigest-nilsimsa-perl libmime-base64-perl libnet-perl libtime-hires-perl locales netbase pidentd ppp pppconfig pppoe pppoeconf proftpd proftpd-common xinetd

and .. how do I fetch/use either one?

did the problems occur before the new psu?

why?!?!

I'd rather not want to configure the kernel.

not this speciefic problem
specific*

*subx

mmm.. looks like youve found your demon then

read the fine kernel source to see where exactly does the message come from

how do I run SMART on it?

apt-get install smartmon-tools or something

show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin

I honestly suspect the PSU is not at fault.
it could be that something is not connected perfectly.

is there a nice clean way to restor gconf database to it's defaults? i've done some messy schema installations:x

you got the old one still? does it work?

rogue:- apt-get install fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant

s/restor/restore

I'll try, thanks.

rogue:- m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx && depmod -a

the old one doesn't work

ah
why so?

that's why there is a new one in it

exploded?

it burned through

rogue- make sure fglrx is in your driver section of your xorg.conf

its possible PSU death caused damage

http://www.pastebin.ca/649706 thx

ok
thanks.

depending on the nature of the death of course

I hate that about hardware (there are a million causes to one problem)

lightning strike = give up

you are upgrading a lot of core packages. what version of debian are you running?

I can't find anything with smart in it.
(anything that's of use)

what i missing under Debian/etch amd64, i can't play mkv files ?

there _should_ be something with smart in it
smartctl

never mind

4.0

I found it

oh, actually a lot of those packages that are going to be newly installer are essential packages that should have never been removed in the first place

i don't want to update so much, i want webalizer to work, that probably only means i need to upgrade libpng
i haven't removed anything

show us the output of " apt-cache policy libc6 coreutils ppp" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin

how can I try to enable DMA again?
hdparm…

http://www.pastebin.ca/649713
don't care about ppp btw

hmm, I only see how to read the information, not how to set DMA

is there a way in which I can force it to update _just_ libpng?

so you are mixing sarge (aka 3.1 aka oldstable) and etch (aka 4.0 aka stable)

hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
like i said, i didn't set it up but it explains issues i had before with simple apt-get install commands

this isn't supported, you need to stick to one or the other. you also don't have 'coreutils' installed, which is crazy, coreutils contains programs like "ls"

well i can honestly say ls works

hi, what is the SCP package called in debian?

do you want to stick to oldstable or upgrade to stable?
openssh-client

it's part of the ssh client

this webserver is going to be decommisioned in a couple of months, so all i really care about is webalizer, either downgrade it back to old version, or update libpng to work
well not correct, all i care about is getting webalizer working w/o affecting the other running services that better describes it

okay. just that I can't transfer any files from win to debian using SCP. winscp says that scp isn't installed
thanks

then you need openssh-server

that is installed as well

edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all occurances of "stable" or "etch" to "sarge"; then "aptitude update ; aptitude install ~E!~i"
that will hopefully get all of the essential packages that you ar missing installed again, at which point you should "aptitude upgrade" then go back to trying to install whatever you are trying to install
actually since you are missing debconf, you are likely to run into problems. but try first anyway, we might have to install coreutils and debconf by hand if that fails

hi all

k that sounds risky… can i just d/l the libpng package somewhere and extract it or somethin? this server is live

how to share my pc connection with my mobile phone? I've problems with gnubox

hello

you need to have coreutils, debianutils, debconf, ifupdown, e2fsprogs install

could some one help me please?

!tell Blackhold -about ask

I'm looking for a po editor that allows you to use aspell dictionaries

the cache must be corrupt. i'm not familiar with debian, but i am with linux. if coreutils was missing i would have noticed (ls, grep, find, etc all work)

furthermore, this box has been missing the security updates, so not upgrading is also risky

agreed but going to be decommisioned. i wouldn't be surprised if it's hacked already. perhaps my last install messed up webalizer due to the wrong sources (i only did install chkrootkit)

!ndiswrapper

ndiswrapper is, like, a way to wrap Windows drivers so that they can be used on Linux i386 only. If there is a Linux driver for your card, use that instead; if there isn't, email your manufacturer and ask for one (since it's better for everyone involved if there are real drivers), then ask me about "ndiswrapper one-liner" for information on setting up ndiswrapper. If you don't yet own a card, consider buying one that has real secure linux web hosting drivers.

!ndiswrapper one-liner

extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper one-liner is apt-get install build-essential module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper

What is the usual device for an usb mouse?

… /dev/mice
should have am all

/dev/input/mice

is there a way to figure out which repository provides a package?

err that one yea

apt-cache policy packagename

great, thanks stew.

net-inst doesn't support internal/WLAN cards? how do i know which network card i have?

stuart-: netinst does support internal/wlan cards. are you running linux currently?

stuart-: lspci | grep WLAN, maybe
or just go through lspci

stew, yep. ubuntu. but i want a more customized install, and the last time i tried using net-inst, i couldn't connect to the itnernet

stuart-: show us the output of "lspci -n" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin

stew you know anything about changing ls's colors?

VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105 [Rhine-III] (rev 86)

i got colors enabled for zsh but i want to customize them

can i use that for netinst?

man dircolors

stuart-: is there a list of supported hardware somewhere

stuart-: i wouldn't know without seeing the output for that card from 'lspci -n'

how can i find out what package contains libssl.pc?

apt-file search

what do errors ACPI interrupt mean, the kernel boots to some stage than hangs…

thanks

… strange shit. all i did was change stable in sarge (in source-list, i have a q on that later), did apt-get install webalizer, it install libdb4.2 and now the segfault / libpng error is gone. also i can't install libpng12-0 cause it's already installed whilst webalizer complained about it being 1.0 something and need 1.2 something
anyways could it be that the 'stable' word used to point to sarge and now points to edge? I only had stable words in source-list, nothing like release names as etch, sarge, woody etc

stew, whoops. didn't see -n. http://pastebin.ca/649725

you also need to install debconf e2fsprogs coreutils debianutils ifupdown
if you don't have, for instance, debianutils, cron won't work, which means webalizer wont work

cron works, it's running that's what so strange. as i said i'm pretty familiar with cli just not with debian. i should have noted coreutils missing long ago as i should use lots of tools in there
also install core utils gives a lot of replacing files :/

what does "which run-parts" return?
if you have reason to suspect that the machine has actually been compromised, you should be doing something about that too
stuart-: yes, that card can be used to netinst, it is supported by the via-rhine module

cast :O how long does apt-file update take to finish?

coreutils shows conflicting files with what package?

/bin/run-parts, i just installed coreutils tho' (only coreutils not the rest)
yea i feel like the machine has been comprised long time ago. i was recently made responsible for it. it hasn't seen updates in like 3-4 years
that's why i installed chkrootkit last time but it was clean

depends on your net speed

that is, chkrootkit didn't detect anything which isn't necessarily clean

i've never had ckrootkit detect a rootkit, even on boxes where i had myself detected a rootkit.

How can I clear the DNS cache?

if the box has been compromised, you need to re-install or decommission it now, until the problem is fixed
you are using ubuntu?

which dns cache?

also we had bills from the hosting company. we're allowed 50G traffic p/m, we would have pulled 75 according to them. however both iptables (no rules, just the chain counters) and apache/webmin/ftp statistics only showed 15G

stew, cool. thanks. what package would i need to get xfce running after i install core? apt-get install xfce4

stuart-: xfce4 and xorg

themill i have a dns server that is caching for another Dns server. The problem is that the master server changed, but my caching server host still thinks the old master is still the master

you can't trust the tools on that box to give you accurate info

especially the iptables counters being wrong worries me

but not enough to actually do anything about it?

stew, cool, thanks.

did the master update the zone serial?

it's live, with 100+ websites i can't just pull em out of the air, they all need to be migrated to our new plesk server which is a tedious task. i'm just the techy management decides on these things but i'm pretty sure they won't shut it down getting it back up costs too much time which they probably rather have spend on the move
You have 2 process hidden for ps command
we're screwed i'll take it up with management

you need to reinstall or decommission the box

themill probably not

thx for the help atleast the statistics work again

what's the diff between the business card iso and minimum cd iso?

if the serial wasn't updated then the update won't propagate. the serial *must* be updated.

please at least consider installing the missing essential packages and the security updates for that box

themill thanks

stuart-: dunno but you have these business web hosting card shaped cd's they probably can contain less data than the 8" variants
i will, if i have time i'll take a copy of the box and do it on there cuz if ftp and such stop they're gonna hang me

freakynl, is there anything i'd need in the bare minimum cd that wouldn't be available in the business card version? would it matter if i'm just gonna net-inst anyways?

stuart-: the business card iso doesn't contain the base system, it only has enough to get you on the internet to download the base system. the netinst cds also contain all of the base packages, so these don't have to be fetched from the internet

stew, oo. okay d/l'ing now. thanks

Hello everyone!

ps part of coreutils?

there would be far less spam and phishing and ssh brute force attacks on the internet if it weren't for lazy admins like you
yes

themill ok even with the new serial nothing seems to have changed

you can also use the named-xfer command by hand to force the update.

i'm sorry, no it is in procps

#make -bash: make: command not found)

perhaps helpful: http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/dns/ch14_03.htm#INDEX-2157.html
!tell MilhousePunkRock about b-e

Thanks.. Do I remember correctly that when I run make clean instead of make, apt-get will notice what I built so I can manage it from there?

themill that's a good list but the problem i'm getting is that the authorative server reported by the caching DNS server is wrong (it reports the old DNS master)

make doesn't talk to apt at all…. not sure what you're trying to do.

There are guest accounts available on svn.debian.org, correct?

hi all

I am working with the debian-perl team yet cannot send my id_dsa.pub key there, how might I do this?

I got a garmin etrex serial connected device
I want to make it work
I installed gps

gnube, you add your key using the webtool on alioth

gpsdriver

Basically I am only trying to install a printer… My memory is somewhat blurry about that, but I think there was a way to create a .deb from source code and install that instead of just compiling it, right?

gnube, basicaly login on alioth and add keys in your profile there

and kismet

gnube, think there is a cronjob. so it wont work right away

Thanks, right.

hi

i understand your concerns, i usually share them. but i have 160 hours of work i need to do in like 40, i am the only guy here that understands linux and i rather take the safe road. if that means the machine will be compromised for another couple of days so be it. it's not that it won't be handled, it'll just take a lil longer. i have concerns other than security alone, like my job and our customers. thanks tho'

ahh. You need to tell bind what the master is in its config file.
http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/dns/ch04_08.htm#INDEX-610.html

hi there
how can i use aptitude to print out a list of all installed packages?

someone knows howto exec commands at the boot time whith no minds of shell scripting?

what's the printer? do you really need to compile things?

Samsung ML-2010

i want to exec cat iptables-restore | iptables-restore

I found splix, which is a clone of Samsung

themill thanks I think i found the problem

s printer language
And the driver needs good ol' make make install

you know those zombie farms that spew all the anti spam filter webmail host out and we normally diss the home windows users for running them? Are you sure your box isn't one of them?

no, he's sure he IS one of them, in fact he said he is knowingly paying the bandwidth overage charges that they are incurring

basically i want a *.bat exec

at this point i'm actually 80% sure it's part of them unfortunately. if i can get the rootkit of fast i will, if i can protect it easily i will. if i risk taking the server out of the air for a couple of days i unfortunately won't

ugh

*sigh*

mornin'

I know — you're between a rock and a hard place. Is it feasible for you to put an extra firewall in front of that box that only lets stuff out from a couple of ports (25, 80)?

hey can i get help here on garmin

stop chatting here and use the time to run the 3 or 4 simple commands i told you to replace the missing and known broken packages and install the missing security updates

changed the sources has made apt-get upgrade a lot more feasible. no packages will be removed (did the stable keyword change) but as you're probably aware of also, just that won't fix it if there's a rootkit, rogue processes etc the upgrade is running

I think you're looking for checkinstall. You can use that to quickly compile host a deb from the source package and then use it. Whether the package actually integrates with cups on debian is an exercise left to the reader….

how do i find files named *boinc* on my computer? i tried reading find manpage.. but it is way too complicated

how do you know it won't fix it if there's a rootkit?

either with find or locate
find / -name \*boinc\*

I think basically the package only provides the .ppd files for various Samsung printers. Basically the printer is known to work fine in Linux in general and Debian in particular…

i've had a machine with a rootkit before, the processes that are already running are not installed by apt nor seen by it and won't be updated/replaced. i might just replace messed up versions of ps that hide the rogue processes making them visible again

if it's only the PPDs then you can just copy them manually into /etc/cups/ppds or use the ppd upload interface through the web interface.

also if a package is compromised (for example ls was overwritten with a version that checks if the rootkit is still installed and reinstalls otherwise) and there's no update for it, you keep the compromised version

if it's also backend drivers, filters etc, then they need to be installed in the right place

and if the rootkit is contained in the files in coreutils, you'd be replacing those as well

I just thought of that myself, there is probably more to it

i'll have a fortigate placed in front of it as well, it has some http/smtp proxies and IPS

you can clean the apt-cache and easily reinstall all the packages
you'll do all that, but you won't run "aptitude upgrade"?!?

that would be reassuring got docs on that

/msg dpkg reinstall

it's running, like i said, changing the sources-list to sarge made it much more feasible it didn't want to remove ftp n such anymore

http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/checkinstall/ This is what google brought up for checkinstall. My concern is that I want to keep the system clean and have everything I installed manageable with apt.

but don't bother with that until you have installed all the missing essential packages anre run aptitude upgrade

Does not seem like much work, so I might try that

that's why i asked if the 'stable' had change from sarge to etch that would explain the issues

no, it woulnd't

just hope that the rootkit doesn't come in .deb format so that dpkg remembers it if you use that factoid *grin*

it might. he has a system that doesn't have coreutils, debianutils, debconf installed, but all of those packages are seemingly functional anyway

ouch

he's also missing ifupdown and e2fsprogs, so who knows if the box would actually be able to be rebooted

any other ideas? It appears as it was pointing to etch indeed whilst it needs sarge. i change the 'stable' words to 'sarge' in sources-list and apt-get suddenly seems to have no problems

Hello, are there any gramps package maintainers here by chance?

checkinstall makes a deb file so apt will know about it. It's just that apt won't be able to upgrade the package because it's locally built.
you are aware that the splix drivers are in debian already aren't you?

you need to install the missing essential packages by running "aptitude update ; aptitude install '~E!~i' " and upgrade for the security fixes by running "aptitude upgrade"

Right. So when there is an update I will go through the procedure again with the new tarball?

hm, now do I quickly convert unixtime to something readable?

How can I move 500,000 files from one place to another over the network without getting silly failures like Gnome and KDE give?

right

What repo? apt-cache search splix did not find anything?
s/?/!

I thought Gnome and KDE matured a bit, but it seems still silly toys that they don't even get this right.

and "aptitude reinstall procps"

why do you do not compress it
?

upgrade done, installing aptitude, already did a apt-get install –reinstall procps

rxync
rsync

fasta?

I am not sure how long that would take.

are you seeing processes that were hidden before?

they're in main, but they're only in lenny and sid. There might be a backport at backports.org or you might be able to make one yourself trivially.
!tell MilhousePunkRock about backport

0am) … and to answer my own question, perl -e 'print scalar

no, chkrootkit doesn't report them anymore either. aptitude upgrade doesn't install anyting, is it equal to apt-get upgrade?

so what were the two hidden processes?

dunno perhaps it was nothing (could be that check 1 found 2 processes that didn't live anymore at the time of check 2)

you can also just tar them up without compression, push them over an ssh link and decompress on the fly with no temp files involved if you want. But rsync is more failure-resistant

yes, its similar to aptitude upgrade. can you show me the output of "apt-cache policy libc6 coreutils debianutils e2fsprogs" ?
err similar to 'apt-get upgrade'

one minor complication is that I don't want to select some files.
doing that via the command line is inconvenient now.

Great, thanks! I'll come back when I run into problems with the backport

I was looking at the failure called file-roller. I will now try ark

tar and rsync have a very rich exclude syntax. you can even put the exclude filenames into a file and use that.

Oh, one more thing. Can the mirror for the backport be replaced with some other mirror closer to my location?

up2date now thx http://www.pastebin.ca/649756

it's quite unfortunate that the only good programs are command line only.

plz anybody kno how to assign UUID to partitions

yes. there is a list of mirrors http://www.backports.org/debian/README.mirrors.html but you might want to double check that they have what you want on them.
dar is supposed to be good too.

ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid

no you aren't up to date yet, as can be seen by e2fsprogs candidate being newer than what is installed

thing is that i repartitioned one of my hardisk using SuSE 10.2, when i came to ubuntu, i m not getting its UUID

in the fstab

sup?

hello

(I am not new to reading man pages etc. it's just that finding and understanding all the syntactic details for every tool leaves no space to do useful stuff. If everything was a complete interactive environment, using the same syntax, there wouldn't be such a problem)

you also don't have a security.debian.org source. you should have "deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main" in your sources.list ; add that, then "aptitude update ; aptitude upgrade"

reinstalling 8 packages

thanks MilhousePunkRock, i will try it

i would have sworn i saw a security line hold on

yep… I know what you mean. You get to know a certain set of tools that you use all the time…

hi

I've thrown that size file list at ark before and it survived so it should work out for you if that's how you want to go about it. Sometimes copying the entire lot to a local dir and then deleting the ones you don't want then sending the whole lot is easier than trying to exclude.

can somebody tell me why there is no /sbin/checkproc in debian etch? or is there a replacement?

i have this one (didn't change this line) deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
should i make it sarge/updates?

so far, ark is still working

also how does it determine whether stable should be edge, sarge, woody etc?

yes, i'm suprised that one didn't cause you problems

confidential

isn't checkproc a suse utility? can you tell us what it does? if we don't have it we probably don't know what it does

Can anybody shed some light on why apache2 processes my php files after I installed the libapache2-mod-php5 but it does not do the same for perl files after installing the libapache2-mod-perl2 package?
I realise the solution is to add an addhandler directive, i'm just curious as to why php webhosting works out of the box but perl doesnt

oh didn't know it's a suse tool, it's on all our older debian machines so I assumed it's a standard tool. it checks if a binary is already running.

if a system service or just any old program?

* * * * * root /sbin/checkproc /etc/scripts/nsrefresh || /etc/scripts/nsrefresh
just a program

I am stuck already… Firstly it's missing a public key, and secondly there is no .dsc file

so how does it determine where stable points to (atleast, i assume it's a symlink or whatever pointing to the correct version)

yes, its a symlink that is changed when a new version of debian is released. people should pretty much never point to "stable" as it causes problems when the link changes, which is why newer installers don't use it anymore

what do you usually use on debian instead?

lsof would be one approach. kill -0 might be another. Perhaps ask again how one could achieve what you are trying to achieve rather than asking about checkproc.
hang on…. what are you trying to do?

edge

thanks, I'll have a look at lsof and kill -0 first

Nevermind, I forgot to append the version number. I'll ignore the missing key for the moment

another 66 updates

generally it's done form a config file — i.e. if it's supposed to be running then it will be
are you pulling the package from backports? or from sid?

it didn't cause the problems that you were missing 5 essential packages

Backports, following this howto: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port

If you are pulling from backports.org then you don't need to do anything other than install it using apt.

strangely they seemed installed tho'. the guy that installed it had some debian image + some scripts he used to install perhaps he installed the tools manually w/o a package or something

and it didn't seem like installing packages from a 'stable' that was too new was the problem, since your install wasn't even up to date with 'oldstable' yet

installing spca5xx sources would make the file /dev/video?

if you are making a backport then you need to follow that howto

how to make the /dev/video so that i can use my inbuilt webcam in laptop?

yeah, 'the guy' is probably, 'the skript kiddie'

well what surprises me was that i had a webalizer that pointed to a newer libpng than i had. when we fixed the sources-list and reinstalled webalizer (well installed, it didn't reinstall webalizer, in installed db4.2 or something) suddenly libpng was a higher version. perhaps the segfault generated the wrong error msg

hey friends. what do i do to give a user permission to rw the /var/www?

you might consider doing something like installing snoopy, and watching /var/log/auth.log to see what commands are getting executing by local users

ahh ok… so a backport doesn't already exist on backports.org. and you're making one yourself.

Uhm, probably I just followed the wrong link… Will try the instructions on backports.org now

no you're doing ok. there is no splix on backports.org

l

thx that might be useful. we suspect the hosting company to generate income (like saying we pull too much bandwidth) and they still have the root account (i use another user account but with uid 0)

So I need to port the package myself? How do I deal with unmet dependancies then?

!dpkg km

apt-get build-dep splix should do it for you.

anyways thanks a bunch everything seems to be working

Being too impatient once again. I will start over now with proper reading (it says "inspect required packages and install them too" but I overlooked that)
But to do things properly, how do I obtain the gpg key for testing and unstable?

If you have debian-archive-keyring installed and you aptitude update then it should be all ok
bIf you have debian-archive-keyring installed and you aptitude update then it should be all ok/b