yeah, exactly

_OR_ install it using 'ROOT=' .. could be messier, but might be a better option too, dunno

or maybe use ECONF_EXTRA
or create a custom ebuild

*nod*

like with emerge –buildonly =/whatever/wine-0.9.35, then copy the binaries?

so he should make an overlay right ?

if doing a custom ebuild, yes. but it needs a lot of work because the install section needs to be completely redone — otherwise stuff will be overwritten

I'm not sure what you're doing with the 'ROOT=" thing though

man portage. ROOT="/some/dir" emerge something ; this will install it as if '/some/dir' was actually '/'

where is the log for inid.d startup errors?

its meant more for doing emerges to a different instannation…
by default there isnt one. /var/log/messages
s/instann/install/

definitely not there. already looked.

you'll have to check /etc/conf.d/rc and see where/how to turn them on then

also, ECONF_EXTRA="-prefix=/usr/local" emerge -B =wine-0.9.35 _might_ work.

yep, thats true too

erm, –prefix rather

argh! darn X not working

hmm I'll give that a shot

good luck manwich

thx

CareBear\: Then just dump my source in there or..?

cairo needs the X flag set … I have the X flag set in make.conf … any ideas?

the kicker is Xorgs log doesnt say any errors
unmerge cairo then remerge after adding the X use flag

whats the problem then ?

emerge -a cairo (if the X flag has an asterisk next to it then you need to proceed).

i just got done doing that and installing gtk+2

even with the X flag set in make.conf emerge keeps telling me to set the X flag for cairo

strange

yes, but have you rebuilt cairo …

just unmerge it

how do I rebuild cairo?

emerge –unmerge cairo

did you not read what I just said?

yes

no kidding

sorry … -a right?

yas

kk … thanks guy
guys*

-a is not needed, it just asks before proceeding.

just emerge moo

or ch40t1x or emerge -avt cairo … if you see a big red X in the flag list then its enabled

trying now

anyone into music production using linux here, willing to give a few pointers?

hi, I just started using gentoo again after a few months off… I can't finish updating as I seem to have lost some hard drive space and can't track it down
du shows 7.2G used on a 10G partition, df shows 8.4G used, and only 870MB free
no directories show unusual use

ever tried ardour ?

no, but i'll get the pointers you'll get

any ideas how I can track down this missing space?

well I have just got ardour installed

I think ardour is pretty good

I am trying to change wav files to soundfonts
using smurf and swami but no joy

check if you have any deleted file, but still opened

ChrisAshton84, well du shows the size of all the files, whereas df shows the number of free blocks, so they are both correct

thanks guys … that worked awesome

ChrisAshton84, or what epsilon said

hi, has anyone been able to single-step into code compiled in portage?

got the synth setup and the little midi keyboard working with rosegarden

for ex. if you have a 1.2GB file still used by a program , bu has no reference in your filesystem

ChrisAshton84, thinking some more, I think it is quite unlikely you have that much space lost to empty tails

I've rebooted and run resierfsck w/ no problems found, so i figured any abnormal files would be found

are you satisfied with rosegarden ?

i just dont get it X fails with no (EE) in the log file
it just magicly dies

well I like it - but I am just trying to get the studio setup now

ChrisAshton84, are you using notail, and have a huge number of files under one block size?

ahh ok

I like the note notation and yeah it recognizes the synth it can record

I am using notail, and w/ a lot of sources I could have a lot of small files

good I ll try that one sometime

i noticed just the kernel sources take 286MB

ChrisAshton84, well there is your descrepancy, recreate the filesystem and use tail packing

yeah it is good just a little awkward to setup

I ve just only been using windows music stuff
I use Finale Printmusic for my needs

the first part of a stage 3 install is installing gentoo from live cd right?

pity its only for windows

is that worthy of a reinstall? cause I already have everything backed up elsewhere, and a couple of months backlog of updates to run through

and commercial

I was playing with midi files in it and yeah it is quite easy to reassign instrustments to midi tracks and make them yourown

(not sure how to change)

ChrisAshton84, can you not just recreate the one filesystem?

^^

i'll look into it, don't recall hearing of this before… thanks

ChrisAshton84, well the "Big Thing" with Reiserfs when it came out was tail packing, which is to avoid small files using more disk space than their actual size, but notail turns this feature off

i just know i have notail in my fstab

yeah Rosegarden does the note notation but they claim to place it in the center of things it has the matrix thing as well

i probably looked into it a year or more back when i installed this and thought no further of it

what I am looking to do now is to take some samples and produce soundfonts with them then plug that into the synt
h

cool stuff
whenever you should have some good samples of your work I'd be grad to hear that

well I was hoping it woudl be easy in smurf or swami but alas no - I think the card has to have a wavetable generator or something
oh I am just a humble amateur having a play around with it - I don't expect any great masterpiece

hehe
well for myself I'm just a guitar player more or less good

but I have a ton of samples that would be intersting if I could spread them over a keyboard

what are you using for guitar partitions?
s/partitions/tabs

I prefer commercial versions for that … there are several open source things but I am not uptodate

i appreciate that CareBear, AxS
works fine now

commercial versions that runs natively on linux?

I need 2 things: Finale printmusic (which I use less in the last time) and Band-in-a-box
no emulated windows

:-/

though I will give it a try with wine

kguitar looks good … if it weren't crashing xD

oh
did you maybe try to merge to previous versions ?

haven't tried more than 5 minutes i must say

hmmm
ahh step by step im closer to xgl
yay

i'll try xgl when it won't need kde/xfce/gnome xD

hmm what is ardour is it just a recording device (like timemachine)?

xfce4 is good give it a try

xfce is just the worst parts of KDE and gnome assembled imo xD

I thought you can manage the different tracks on ardour, and create a good playback

*let's just start a WM flamewar xD*

arent you able to import ?

well I was just seeing if it could record live

it does

the midi device has popped up in jack

at least from what I remember

what happens if you don't put /bin/bash at the end of chroot?

I linked my keyboard to a synth and I play but ardour does not record it

does it revert to /bin/sh

I used ardour long time ago I remember there was a nice howto somewhere in google
you d probably want to read one

man chroot?
If no command is given, run “${SHELL} -i'' (default: /bin/sh).

yeah I think a howto is in order

does that mean it goes to /bin/sh

i have sound!!!!!!!! yay!!!!!!!!!!

mine goes to /bin/bash but it'll probably differ for other environments
like on the livecd, maybe $SHELL isn't set to bash

why not go with /bin/sh is my question i spose
why does the hand book say to have /bin/sh at the end

has anyone here tried the testing version of win32codecs on an amd64 system?

more people are familiar with bash so it's suggested on the handbook? if you like /bin/sh better, you'd probably know to use that instead

it works here

great…now i just have to unmask it somehow

i see it just depends on which shell you want in the chroot

http://ardour.org/files/manual/ch-recording.html

it's not usually that fussy a codec anyway

yeah, and a user might be confused when a sh comes up but she is accustomed to bash

never used sh so i'l stick /bin/bash on the end

the cooler way to say it is that you'll "slap" /bin/bash on the end

On the end of what?
nm

how do I know wich package a file belongs?

equery b /path/to/file
equery is part of gentoolkit if you don't have it already

chroot /mnt/bla /bin/bash

equery belongs filename

bash, in case you forget the shell arg to chroot. Then it just works.

oh you had your answer already, nvm

Actually, you can run any executable in the chroot.

anyone know what group/privelegdes i need to be able to shutdown when quitting xfce? the only option not shaded out is "logout"
so i have to sudo powerofff

oh

Add user to "wheel" group?

i am in wheel

if sh is just a sym then

someone just helped me on #xfce thanks though
:-)

does it mater what i put at the end
is it going to be bash anyway
?

Well, for working your way through the install guide, they assume you're running a shell in the chroot.

its allready a symlink so

hello all

It won't be bash if the symlink is missing. chroot will fail

i don't see why they put bin bash in at all now

thanks

yeah but if it is there

does the ebuild for 'divx4linux' no longer exist?

theres no point

im using distcc, but havent used it as i am trying to now in the past
i have 3 machines
2 are i686

xvid codec plays them afaik

one is i586

Not everyone install bash. Every machine is *supposed* to have something as /bin/sh, though.

then you need a cross compiler

ok
i wasnt sure since they are both 'similar' architectures
like, i thought cross compiling would be only for say ix86 & ppc or something

ah se the logic

you need to cross compile if chost is different
i586 != i686, therefore cross compile
that's why changing chost on a running gentoo system is such a hassle.
have to build a cross compiler, bootstrap a new toolchain then redo everything

oh they changed the interface everyone mentions a mixer strip so they took away the button classic

ahh lol

Huh? Just to chnage CHOST on Gentoo? I didn't have to do that.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml

woh, DrChandra++, no need for a cross compiler going from i586 to i686, they're both x86 subarchs

ok; ill read the doc on cross-compiling
thanks for the help

don't do that!
just read the link DrChandra posted

finally it records

ok; looking now..
err; after i changed chost; first thing i pulled down was gcc; should i start over then ??

first emerge of gcc binutils etc gives you binaries that run in an i586 system and produce binaries for i686, then the emerge world creates gcc and binutils that run in i686 and create for i686.
so that guide actually says to do what I said while avoiding most of the scary keywords

just follow the CHOST change guide from top to bottom regardless

hmm; well im doing a sort of differnt chost change
im chaning chost from i486 to i586
but heres the thing; gcc from the livecd was 4.1 something
and i used hardened minimal profile
which is gcc 3.4 i think (can double check if need be)
so gcc is getting down-graded
i still have gcc 4.1 on there when running gcc-config
so i should nuke that and perform the cleanup, like this doc says ?

hardened is a lot of complication to add into the mix

I'm going to give gentoo another go, have had problems in the past with the USE flags, but have been told its better now.

Perhaps it would be better getting a system up tot he right chost, then enable a hardened profile and configuring that.

I'd like to know how to use emerge or the USE system to install mplayer with the matrixview support.

finally it records

great zention

http://pigeond.net/mplayer/mplayer-matrixview.html To build it, run MPlayer's configure with –enable-matrixview, as it's disabled by default. This driver depends on MPlayer's OpenGL video output driver.

The use flags system gives you a lot of choice, it's perhaps more than some people can deal with.

wish you good luck anyway Im off for a deep sleep
goodnighty

Miravlix I understand.

when will be python 2.5 out ?

hrm, any other suggestions for good games available in the portage tree?

Well, sounds like you need to make your own ebuild of mplayer, as I don't recall matrixview being an option in the Gentoo official mplayer ebuild

et kinda sucks, and so does bzflag.

Miravlix okay thanks, I'll google how to make my own ebuilds

enemy-territory-truecombat if you want a similar to CS fps
its a mod

I installed it, I keep getting booted for something stupid.

if you knew the error message I could help yoh
you*
probably the punkbuster

well, it wasn't really an error message, it was sort of like .. grr, let me try it
bwell, it wasn't really an error message, it was sort of like .. grr, let me try it/b

lol

I'm using the 2.6.19 kernel, but it install the linux-headers-2.6.21 package, is it really a good idea to have headers from a different kernel?

What is a good cpu frequency scaler that also watched cpu temp?

with emerge -s cpu you get several options … look at the description

Miravlix, probably won't hurt any.

I haven't seen one with build in support for CPU temp, but due to the nature of properly written fedora linux software, it's not all that hard to write a cron job that checks cpu temp and effect whatever cpufreq tool you decide to use.

any suggestion for software that makes 3D human body modeling (skeleton,body parts ..)

LinuxMafia, ? I have heard of software for viewing MRI data (can't recall what it is named)?, or you 3d meshes like for blender?
*you mean

how come after i set up gentoo, it cant find simple commands like ls, ln, and cp?

puddingpimp_work, blender is hard to use though

bash: /usr/bin/cp: No such file or directory

Kalico, run hash -r and try again.

:o

LinuxMafia, ??? :O

yay!, thanks Draconx

Kalico, coreutils update changed how some things were installed, hash -r tells the shell to forget how they were installed before.

puddingpimp_work, blender takes lots of time to make some thing similar but eaiser to use

LinuxMafia, Blender is pretty much an extension of my mind, I think it and it appears on screen

cool

puddingpimp_work, yeah i worked with blender b4 , but it is kind of hard to workd with

LinuxMafia, well, I have never came across anything easier to use, so good luck on your search

puddingpimp_work, brlcad

LinuxMafia, never really got into it, how accurate do these models need to be, are they for some kind of simulation or for art?

puddingpimp_work, for scientific matters
puddingpimp_work, i need to make a model in 3D for a device that made for who had back serjury

LinuxMafia, well you could probably get some mri, or laser-scanned geometry from a university, not sure what format it would be in

puddingpimp_work, yeah but it will be 2d

ok so my router box is issuing out the ips right n stuff, so how do i see all the hosts it has issued a ip to?

found it..
I got booted something to do with punkbuster (which WAS enabled) for "Game Integrity"
I tried it enabled, and disabled.

LinuxMafia, mri is thousands of layers of 2d, laser scan should be mesh-like floatingpoint data, either way, I would talk to someone at a uni, it's certainly way off-topic for #gentoo

ahh

LinuxMafia, either way you're going to need to process it into whatever format you need it in (I very seriously doubt anyone has public-domain BRL-cad models)

Is there anyone here who has successfully upgraded from (portage) Beryl v0.2.1, to Compiz Fusion? If so, might you have the URL for the HOWTO document that you used to get there? (yes I know this isn't gentoo support, but there's no responding gentoo users in the compiz-fusion channel.)

puddingpimp_work, me too
thanks puddingpimp_work

do you remember the number to the game integrity ?

bah, no

#….

I didn't know they were different every time
where can i look up the problem based off that number then?

i am in nautilus in a particular folder, is there a way to execute xterm in nautilus, so that my xterm is default to that particular folder?

on google there are many websites showing how you can solve that etc

okay cool, thanks. i was just going to give up and try another game.

as a related question to my disc space questions before, did portage grow a lot in the past couple of months or something? i've never had disc space issues before, and if it is due to the tail / notail option, the new kernel (2.6.20 v 2.6.22) or portage must be to blame

ok so my router box is issuing out the ips right n stuff, so how do i see all the hosts it has issued a ip to?

if you got some time I help you now
you need to update punkbuster

that's separate from the game itself?

I've just booted the livecd.. how do I start the install?

no … not at all
so are you ready ?
its fast

You must love ssh. It is required.

cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases

is anyone else having random gnome crashes?

I would be if I used gnome but I don't

Triffid_Hunter, that really helps…. -_-

kicked via punkbuster for [Game Integrity] # 20004

Triffid_Hunter, it says no file

I believe that's been the same the past few times.

2 minutes and you can play
ok ?

sure

follow these instructions
copy the /opt/enemy-territory/pb/pb.webx86 to your home/user/.etwolf/pb
make it executable with chmod +x obweb.x86
then ./pbweb.x86
until its finished
then restart your game, it should work

Triffid_Hunter, cant find a dhcpcd.leases file

ahhhhh…to have a completely human-editable fstab again

which one of these is grammatically corect? "Building interfaces which have as little friction as possible" vs. "Building interfaces that have as little friction as possible" ?

both I think, although the former flows better for me

that and which are both ok

oh ok. cool
thanks guys!

Triffid_Hunter, any other suggestions?

maybe it's somewhere else in /var, so find /var | grep dhcp

Triffid_Hunter, ok

hey guys can someone help me get my ipw2200 wireless card to work please
the wiki is a bit outdated

add driver to kernel, install firmware, profit?

i think I've already built it into the kernel
dmesg | grep ipw2200
Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.0k
so it recognizes it and all

Triffid_Hunter, no luck, but i wont annoy you

then you probably need net-wireless/ipw2200-firmware Firmware for the Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG/2915ABG miniPCI and 2225BG PCI adapters (http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net)
check the docs for whichever dhcpd you're using.. it has to store the leases somewhere

it's already installed. I think what I need is a program that will make me connect…or a proper configuration of files or something
I tried NetworkManager before but it never actually connected to the wireless network

It works now. Thanks!

I think I have to configure something but I don't know what

And this whole time you could've been in a "deep sleep"

Why when I plug in a flash drive, kde does not ask me what to do with it? Nor when I go to system:/ and look under the media devices is the flash drive not listed. Do I need some sort of permission or something?

hi

n3kl, if you add an entry for /etc/fstab a regular user can just mount it by mouting the target directory

NetworkManager is easy to configure with nm-applet and knetworkmanager

im installing gentoo and i got this error emerge package error could not emerge sys-apps/hal-0.5.9-r1
ideas?

richw^: find us the error message, not the subsequent messages saying there was an error

Hey guys. having trouble with pppd, can someone help me out?

anyone know of a good way to see a list of past commit messages for svn? I don't want to set up a frontend to svn, I just want to use the CLI tool

il try to get better error

I'm getting the following error message "Connect Script Failed"
can someone point me in the right direction?

can someone lend me a helping hand with compiz for a second the xeffects channel is dead =/
"We are going to add compiz as the KDE Window Manager. # nano -w /etc/env.d/99kde-env" and there is no such file

the vertical and horizontal borders in my midnight commander are gobbldy-gook in vt1-6, but in konsole they look fine. Has anyone else had this problem?

onesandzeros, probably locale issues. Try LC_ALL="C" mc

im emerging networkmanager now

that did it, thanks. Is there any way I can set that for the vts only?

hi everybody
could you help me
i have problems emerging kde

with what
what problem

in the sector kdenetwork
http://rafb.net/p/P2kILL33.html

did you try doing what it told you to do?

yes

and you still got that message?

yes.. the same message
i dont know if it is a bug or i doing bad something

can paste the output of emerge -pv x11-libs/qt-3*

it emerging normaly
but i use qt4
it could be the problem?

that use 4? no.
what is emerging normally?

qt4
with USE="opengl"
emerging normally

thats great, but you need to emerge qt3 with USE="opengl"

ok .. i will do now
thanks

your welcome

hey guys…anyone good with pppd?
some help with ppp anyone? Getting an error Connect Script Failed, how can I coax some more info out of this error?

try increasing the verbosity?

brianw, but how? I've got verbose output enabled when the chat script is called.

d3ity
er
not sure, I use pppd for my sprint broadband, but not much other experience really…

can anyone help me with distcc?

brianw, is that sprint broadband an aircard or hardwire connection?

what's the problem

it is a novatel u720 usb aircard

is there a way to get the live cd not to go graphical(it keeps failing to boot the X) and i need to reinstall gentoo networkless since the minimal cd doesn't come with rtl8180 drivers=\

i have followed gentoo's guide to install distcc on the client and the server, but i don't think it's working… i think the client is not even calling distccd on my host box

brianw, I sell those for verizon.

I used to be w/ verizon, but the TOX sucked too much. heh
TOS*

anyway, I've got a sony erricson gc83 aircard, heres what I found on it…. http://advantedgecomputing.com/opensource/gc83linux.html
brianw, that 5gb transfer limit is a bitch

language

anyway, this is a gsm aircard, and that link has all the info on getting it working, It sorta doesn't JustWork
(TM)

heh

any one???

heres how the connect script is called….
connect '/usr/sbin/chat -v -V -t3 -f -e /etc/ppp/chat-gc83'
does that look sane to you?
because it doesn't output any of the SAY commands in that file

: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0". When I tried "mount /dev/sg3 /mnt/arch2" I get "mount: /dev/sg3 is not a block

did you compile the usb disk support?

used genkernel, have to check

run grep CONFIG_USB_STORAGE /usr/src/linux/.config

CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=m

lsmod | grep usb

pastebin?

ok

http://rafb.net/p/SQMyCO81.html

hiello folks. After, I make changes to my named zones. am I required to restarted named?

hi all i'm using the live installer cd but i can't find the stage 3 tar ball
where is it located on the cd?

you have the module loaded
lsusb ?

it would have been in lsmod output, right?

Just the zone files or the named.conf as well?
it's there - usb_storage

i'm getting a kernel panic while booting from a usb disk…right after the kernel loads the CFQ schedular, and the panic fills the screen so i can't see what the exact cause is…any ideas on how to resolve?

In the first case /etc/init.d/named reload should be enough
what arch and kernel?

jmbsvicetto, x86, 2.6.20-gentoo-r8

ok, that doesn't ring any bells for me

only the zone files.

sorry, I don't know what to do after your last comment. Am I missing a module?

jmbsvicetto, yeah, me either….i was originally using a manually compiled kernel and it panicked, so i tried using a genkernel kernel and it still panics

no. just look at the output of lsusb

http://rafb.net/p/myJtnx26.html

does anyone want to tell me why the live cd installer doesn't seem to have any of the necessary packages….

I see a line there for western digital

It would be a lot easier if you could see the error message
fdisk -l ?

jmbsvicetto, yeah i know…but i can only see the kernel panic output…not the cause

Does it catch your disk? You might also want to check dmesg

i'm going to try booting from livecd to see if it works there

guys how can I find out what my ESSID is for my wireless network

fdisk - l shows the drive

I'm at a friend's house so I have no clue what it might be

g2k iwlist scan
look for it on that

Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes

Do you get the partitions?
No partitions?

got it. changed the mount to /dev/sdc1 and it appears
thanks

Hello I'm having trouble with the USB printing in Gentoo

do you even know which module it's panic'ing on? or anything?

g2k that work?

Damm_, nope, it loads the CFQ i/o schedular, and the next thing i know, it panics

I have USB printing compiled in my kernel and I used turboprint for the driver but after installing my printerer with cups it's a)Always on pause and b) Can't produce anything, The weird thing is my Printer picked up in the Cups Manger the Canon ip2000

yeah thanks
but basically it's just the network name
I can't get NetworkManager to connect to it
i think i have to configure WPA supplicant or something
which I don't know how to od

read the sample config file

hey guys, how do I figure out what device (/dev/ttyS#) my pcmcia card is connected to?

hmmm….it seems to fail in the khelper process
its not even booting from the livecd

I have USB printing compiled in my kernel and I used turboprint for the driver but after installing my printerer with cups it's a)Always on pause and b) Can't produce anything, The weird thing is my Printer picked up in the Cups Manger the Canon ip2000

docmur, can you see the printer listed in the 'lsusb' output?

wow - so many users

YES

anyone? pcmcia?

if I use the livecd installer to install gentoo, and genkernel to configure the kernel I should have ALSA support built in the kernel right?

d3ity, I don't think pcmcia connects to /dev/ttyS? .

Possum, it's a sony erricson gc83 aircard, ppp has something to do with it… I'm not sure.

ppp is not related to pcmcia or ttyS
ppp is just a protocol

I've been trying to figure this out for a little while, it's a GSM aircard, however my only internet connection is via my cell phone currently, which isn't edge capable. The aircard is, so I'd like to use that, unfortunatley, I only have one SIM card, so I can't easily stay online and try the settings

im on gentoo live cd.. wheres mke2fs?

d3ity, I think there's a gentoo howto on pcmcia… my X is temporarily down
oh… that's a bit confusing for my needs…

Possum, hrm. Is there any way to list what devices connect to what serial terminals? sorta like lspci for serial devices?

right now I'm in cups administration and the printer is showing up as actuve but nothing can be printed

d3ity, emerge pcmcia-utils I think … maybe pcmcia-tools … this gives you an lspcmcia command

so it boots off the redhat install cd

cool, i'll search portage

oh i wasnt running it as root nvm

I just emerged pciutils and it says it can't find lspci

root must run it
or use the full path: /sbin/pciutils

thanks! .

er lspci
heh

using /usr/sbin/lspci as normal user also works

er /usr/sbin/lspci

The sanity of my gentoo installation concerns me.
After my third emerge -e world it seems thunderbird is suddently stable

Is there a way to copy a 2007.0 live DVD wholesale to disk, rather than the GLI or a manual install?

gentoo has a habit of not finding commands if your not root
heh

perhaps I need some sort of module loaded for this to work

how can I check the group ID for a particular group?

Thats because it doesn't polute user paths with sbin

d3ity, yea, some cards require pcmcia-cs

/etc/group

d3ity, And make sure you have the correct PCMCIA card support enabled in your kernel or as modules… it can get kinda confusing, but lspci is your friend

is there a way I can check if I have alsa support built in to the kernel so I know if I need to emerge the driver?

fgrep groupnum: /etc/group | cut -d : -f 3

If you have an account you use and is an admin of a box, I suggest learning to edit bashrc to include sbin paths

eh groupname

agh I don't understand how to make NetworkManager work

Possum, can you link me to the correct howto? this GPRS connection is PAINFULLY slow until I get this EDGE card working

can anyone tell me i'm in on the live cd i need rtl8180 driver to work so i can get my internet…is there a way to install this after i chroot over?
can i use emerge rtl8180 like i would usually even though i'm still on the live cd?

d3ity, I wish I could, but I have to wait for X to finish merging… I'll pop open links and see what I can find

lol, thanks man
X takes a whiiiile

X is minutes, it's the manager that takes time if you grab kde or gnome

daum i think you can emerge it

s/manager/environment

is there anyway to speed up scrolling on the vesa driver.. im only using it for installation but its annoying

as rtl8180

RichW^: ALT+F2? :p

d3ity, this should help http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_on_laptops
d3ity, this should help a href="http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_on_laptops"http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_on_laptops/a

no that sucks for installation.. i want a REAL web browser

RichW^: It's how fast it can talk to the screen the scroll. Thats why we don't use VESA normaly. :p

RichW^: then what does vesa have to do with it…

RichW^: ypan/ywrap can help scrolling speed i thought

the nv driver gentoo gave me is too old to work with a 8600
i think it will update when its installed

how can I keep portage from pulling packages from an overlay when they already exist in the official tree? I added an overlay, updated world, and inadvertently added all sort of packages from the overlay. how can I keep this from happening?

RichW^: I think for 8xxx you might need to unmask nvidia-drivers

dawn`chorus: just don't do it :p
dawn`chorus: look around /usr/local/portage/ (probably) and just rm or mv or otherwise get rid of overlays you don't want

I know that portage allows one to exclude in rsyncs part of the portage tree, perhaps layman has similar functionality

anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

what do i do to turn it on?

reisio, well, i tried that, and then I get depgraph creation failed error. adding an overlay has turned out to be quite a nightmare.

dawn`chorus: it's simpler, IMO, if you do not use layman
dawn`chorus: the puppet strings aren't hidden from you then

gonna try something, brb brianw

was a nice useless msg :p

reisio, interesting. work directly with SVN?

dawn`chorus: no, I mean manually put things into your /usr/local/portage/ dir instead of having layman do it

reisio, Sorry… I'd asked a question and gotten no response; namely:

on the live install cd is there a kernel you can use for installation and what not?

Is there a way to copy a 2007.0 live DVD wholesale to disk, rather than the GLI or a manual install?

dawn`chorus: anyways, paste the command and the output somewhere and maybe someone can help you
probably be convoluted

th

sound card support in menuconfig?

just use the standard install method w/ a minimal livecd. my opinion

hi guys - i have a broadcom wireless card, and / search in menuconfig shows a path the needed kernel option a couple of paths below the wireless LAN section
there is no such section. I must be misunderstanding the menuconfig search tool

brianw, That's probably what I'll end up doing. I just figured if I had a bunch of prebuilt code already, I mightbe able to save myself some time

any help?

You probably need to enable an option higher up first.

Thanks tho

reisio, i don't mind having the overlay. it's just, if a package exists both in the overlay and in the official tree, why in the world would it pull it from the overlay? that just boggles my mind.
reisio, same package, same version. **

dawn`chorus: makes sense to me

i did try enabling all the options in the network devices-wireless tree

dawn`chorus: one of the reasons for having an overlay is to allow you to customize the ebuild
dawn`chorus: if it didn't pick the overlay first, that wouldn't happen

Garibaldi, pick the overlay first?

dawn`chorus: give priority to the version in the overlay
consider I have some package X in portage. I want to customize the ebuild. I create an overlay and put my customized copy in the overlay. Portage should use my overlay, not the one in the tree.
so X in the overlay has higher priority than X in the portage tree.

saves the time of renaming all the ebuilds to -r# :p
and other package conflicts

what would be nice is some sort of search order

hey, how do i point out missing/un-updated packages
is there something to fill out

Which one?

so you can say things like "use this overlay, then the portage tree, then this other overlay"

link-grammar 4.2.4
the only one in portage is 4.2.2

Checking…

Garibaldi, yes. what would also have been nice was a small warning to people adding the xeffects overlay that x11-libs will begin to be pulled from the non-official tree.

bugs.gentoo.org

The developer to contact would be joem, or alternatively the gnome herd.

….after checking bugs.gentoo.org for a version bump report

https://bugs.gentoo.org/ is our bugzilla and should have a bug report for a version bump.

there should be an easy-to-use submittal tool

so i just want BCM43XX … i can't figure out what i'm missing here

link-grammar, eh? :p you should /join #linguistics
there is, bugzilla

oooh, fuck bcm43xx

language

yeah but like.. it's not really a bug

sorry

sure it is

vandle, hmm…sounds painful, it being a tiny little piece of metal and all

just a different definition of 'bug'

lol

really though, its crap hardware
i have a 4311 in my HP laptop
bcm43xx linux drivers arent compatible

There's no bug report for the link-grammar version bump, it seems.

yea.. well.. star office is getting kinda beaten by open office lately

that's a bit … random?

no, link-grammar is a dependency of star offices grammar checker

ah, I see

really…
I wouldn't have thought anyone would've tried using it for that :p

yeah.. its maintained by the star office team

what is?

link-grammar .. star office maintains it
thats how i found it was up to version 4.2.4

I would've thought some CMU guys maintained it…

darpa probably stopped funding them

http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

kind of like openssh? :p

I want to verify a package thats signed, I have the zip file & the PGP signature file, pgp -v file.sig produces error: cannot open pgp.cfg,

OpenBSD you mean?

no I mean openssh
but openbsd is just as good of an example

Different story, then.

that happens when you change the words

yeah.. i guess
i got the scariest password for the bugzilla account ..

what package is dig in ?

die??Http

i'm having a real trivial/stupid issue with apache….i have a dns entry added for my server, but whenever i try to access the site through the dns name, it switches back to the ip…e.g…http://www.foobar.com always results into http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/foo
how do i turn that off?

could someone help me on getting my midi to usb working?

maybe
i got mine working just last week
there's a kernel usb driver you need to enable

What do you have as the ServerName in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf?

black, everything easy
oops* otherwise everything's easy

Garibaldi, not defined…commented

try setting it to www.foobar.com

i have it plugged in, and i modprobe snd-usb-audio
do i need to do anything else?

Garibaldi, trying now

21
no. what midi sequencer do you use?

alsa

Garibaldi, when i do that…i can no longer get into the site…(it's drupal 4.6) if i leave it IP only, it works…kind of…i have to re-login on every flipping page

what software do you use track midi events?

lmms
just got it

oh, i've not used that
i'll emerge it

ty

i used seq24 and rosegarden
rosegarden's awesome

i dont like jack
i can never get it to wor
k

i'm not sure that you need it; it said that it can track midi events w/o jack ( i didn't have jack when i first emerged it)
but after i increased the frequency of my kernel timer i installed jack anyway

how do i remove programs from the wine section of kmenu?
they dont dissapear when i uninstall

yea, but what else can i do.. to get it working
permissions?

i don't think so
let me get lmms up first

god how i hate apache

speaking of wine, is there an emulator for osx apps?

ok

why dont you try emerge –search osx
or look in the category apps-emulation?
i hope thats right

while we wait, you said you've tried to install rosegarden and seq24?

because i couldnt find one

they didn't work?

Do you mean programs that emulates OS X apps or programs that emulate OS X entirely or programs that emulate PowerPC?

like wine but osxine

not seq24
do i need that?

pearpc

no
i heard of mine, cps4
i'll google it

the legalities of using pearpc are beyond the rules of this channel so let's just leave it there

LSD`: It's in the tree…

oh excuse me, it was just a concept

PearPC is a CPU emulator, so you would have to run a complete Mac OS X under it, unlike WINE.

http://linuxrevolution.blogspot.com/2006/02/mac-apps-on-linux.html

which is where the legalites Iw as talking about come in

lmms failed
hold on

So the question still is whether you want to emulate a PowerPC CPU or just the OS.

crap

ahh, that's pretty awesome .. i wouldnt have ever thought to look for powerpc emulator..

LSD`: Those legalities need not be addressed here.

well what all should i need for midi to work

which is what i said earlier

it's a matter of choice, i think, black

….

i'l find out what i did wrong

so,,, anyone know why wine wont remove the links in kmenu after a proper uninstall?

LSD`: Why don't you just stick to the technicalities instead?

maybe im unfamiliar with kde and theres an easy way to remove things from kmenu?

dig is in bind-tools if anyone else wanted to know

Run kmenuedit, perhaps?

how do i burn an iso to usb disk using dd again?

dd if=image.file of=/dev/usbdiskdevicenode

?

rej, don't i need to set the block size and all?

i'm sorry; i'm still not sure why it failed

i tried to run the menu editor no luck, i did only install kdebasestartkde

dd uses a default block size when you don't specify it.

fun
thanks

kdebase-startkde
weird

What do you mean by "no luck"?

Can someone assist me on Getting Direct Rendering to work on an Intel 945GM

it doesnt run

octavarium, what doesn't run?

menu editor in kde

It's part of kde-base/kdebase here. If you use the split ebuilds, it's in some different package.
kde-base/kmenuedit seems like a good candidate, don't you think?

i'm update layman, black; i'll try lmms again in a bit

yeah ill have to figure out whats wrong

Wrong?

but is kdebase-startkde split build?

Yes.
So emerge kde-base/kmenuedit and you should be able to launch the menu editor.

ty
rej, does wine usually not remove things from the menu when uninstalled?

octavarium… isn't that a dream theater song?

I wouldn't know about WINE.

Anyone here familiar with the i810 driver for X and how to enable Direct Rendering, if so could you please assist me.

That's a joke, right?

ok well maybe after i have menu editor it will fix that

no, i'm serious…

yes it is

i think it's the one where he uses the continuum
yeah
i like that song

It's off topic here.

oh i know…
I promise, the tangent just ended

hey, Triffid_Hunter around here?

I have searched everywhere on getting Direct Rendering working but I Cannot enable it

ClNorris, what the issue?

would upgrading from expat 1.95.8 to 2.0.1 destroy my system ?
i remember a lot of probs with expat a few months back

mjm, I am trying to get Direct Rendering working. No luck.

to what end do you want direct rendering? XGL/AIGLX?

so can u direct me to a doc about midi?

Gaming
?

the_hoser, i do not understand

ClNorris, but what are you running into? errors? etc?

the_hoser, gaming?
mjm, no errors. I am just not getting good frame rates.

i mean, okay… let's restart…
what type of graphics card do you have?

mjm, I used to have gentoo awhile back and I was able to get direct rendering working, but now I came back I cannot figure it out
the_hoser, I have an intel chipset (laptop) my driver is i810

sure

start by checking your Xorg.0.log and the like

hmm… okay… did you add the appropriate entries in the kernel for your card?

you need to install the i915 kernel drm driver

mjm, where is this log at?

in var

brianw, what is drm driver?

var/log

All log files is in /var/log

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml#doc_chap4

drm driver is what xorg needs from the kernel to do direct rendering.

Thats one of the weirdest questions. Kinda like asking where is root.

the_hoser I enabled DRM in the kernel when I compiled it

sorry about not being much help; lmms still won't compile for me
did you have any problems installing it?

No need to go on about it.

did you enable the i915 drm driver?

Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G , then you choose i915 for that driver

Failed

Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G (i915 driver) —

Except when ClNorris actually needs the i810 driver…

the kernel i810 drm driver is not the one you want

pastebin it

mjm, pastebin?
brianw, which do I need?

teach ClNorris about paste

Use http://rafb.net/paste or emerge wgetpaste. Pasting in #gentoo itself clutters the chat and will get you kicked by Naamah. Use the aforementioned site and hand us the URL so we can check it out.

what does lspci say your display device is?

http://pastebin.com

Hi, Im at 7.e in the manual and i type modprobe -l … it says FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r5/modules.dep: No such file or directory

/usr/sbin/lspci | grep -i vga

I'm only commenting on it because it's on the top 10 list of FAQ questions here.

i didn't know about wgetpaste…
i feel enlightened…

http://rafb.net/p/2KoofC27.html
mjm, http://rafb.net/p/2KoofC27.html

RichW^: Do `cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 && make modules_install`

rej, thanks il try

well black, i'm still having issues; emerge can't build lvsl_server.exe.so. if you'd like, i can tell you how my set-up works. otherwise, i'm sorry for not being of more assistance to you.

2.0 VGA compatable controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev

[drm] failed to load kernel module "i915"

you need the i915 kernel drm driver

brianw, how do I do this?

recompile your kernel

Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G , then you choose i915 for that driver

I have built in ( * ) all the intel in my kernel

you need to choose i915 on the driver, the default is i830

do I need to put i915 in my Xorg.conf file?

no
the xorg driver is i810

so don't built in (*) use Module (M) ??

so how can i go about getting my midi device working?

you need to choose the i915 option for the Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G entry

okay done that.
brianw, okay done that. That I re-compile? I don't need to change any other settings?

and make sure the drm i810 driver is not selected

mutt

brianw, alright

gentoo jon_3345 alsa guide

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml

help, emerge gentoo-sources installed linux-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 and its looking for gentoo-r5

then just rebuild the kernel

when i modprobe -l

brianw, okay, will you be here in a moment?

sure

your solution failed due to that problem

RichW^: readlink /usr/src/linux

brianw, it is still not working

did you install the new kernel?

RichW^: It wasn't a solution, it was a solution based on the condition that that directory existed.

brianw, yes
brianw, how do I tell?

readlink /usr/src/linux
linux-2.6.21-gentoo-r4

what do you guys like better, lilo or grub?

Both.

i like to grub

vandle grub almost always

now how did that happen.. i followed the manual using genkernel

zgrep 915 /proc/config.gz

i guess it doesnt really matter what i pick, does it?

yes?

what is the output?

gentoo bug?

brianw, CONFIG_DRM I915=m

it should be a *
er a "y"

shall i re-do the symbolic link?

RichW^: Which kernel are you running now?

brianw, it was a * before you told me to do the changes

I just told you to make sure it was i915

im on the livecd and i installed linux-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 on the future gentoo pc

RichW^: modprobe always tries to find modules for the currently running kernel, not the symlinked one in /usr/src …

RichW^: eselect kernel list

brianw, okay I cahgned it back

RichW^: Don't run modprobe inside the chroot.

heh
he is in a chroot? heh

can somebody explain the "Paludis" section to me on this page? http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/Overlay I have no idea what the commands are for.

the manual needs to be more clear if to run command in chroot or not

Yes, /join #paludis.

not really, it never says to run modprobe after you chroot

Paludis is an alternative package manager to Portage.
If you don't use Paludis, just ignore that section of the wiki host page.

rej, what use an alternative?

ive been running most commands in the chroot

rej, ok cool. thanks.

well until it told me to chroot

brianw, what shall i do now?

black, is midi working?

rebuild and install your kernel, then reboot

anyone know if its possible to run applications with different gtk2 themes?

twistx, just change the theme, you dont need to recompile.

no i mean, if i want to run a specific app with a different theme than i'm already running…

twistx, there is a small program in portage that automates the switch for you

i know about change theme

oh, I dunno then

the theme i'm running makes certain apps hard to use, so I'd like to specify a different theme

brianw, no this did not work.

sounds like you just need to fix your first theme

brianw, how come when I turn my computer on my sound is automatically muted?

its not broken

Only if the application has it's own theme support

one issue at a time
zgrep 915 /proc/config.gz

its*

what is the output?

brianw, # Config_DRM_I915 is not set

you did not do it…

brianw, yes I did…

nope

brianw, would you like a screenshot?
brianw, I am looking at it right now

I do not need one, /proc/config.gz IS the running kernel

Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G (i830 driver) –

brianw, i am running the new compiled kernel, I checked the times on the new kernel

maybe you forgot to install the new one

see the i830 part…
you need to choose i915

brianw, i feel dumb.
brianw, i give you permission to flame me.

is it safe to put -perl -python in the global use flags?

brianw, instead of doing a full system reboot can I just kill Xserver?

it seems like every package needs them

no, y ou need to get the driver loaded

brianw, okay brb
brianw, Thank you. The Direct Rendering now works.

no worries

brianw, if you wouldn't mind I would like to ask you, why won't my screen resolution go higher than 1280×768?

you want to get widescreen going?

brianw, yes. I have added to my Xorg.conf 1280×600

you need to install/configure: sys-apps/915resolution Utility to patch VBIOS of Intel 855 / 865 / 915 chipsets

brianw, but the only option i have in screen resolution is 1280×768

where do i add dns?

brianw, 915resolution has been masked …

by what?

~x86 keyword

it is just in testing, unkeyword it

brianw, how shall I do this?
brianw, I am not too familiar with portage.

/etc/portage/package.keywords

i already addeed dns in resolve.conf and i am able to ping my dns server but it is not pinging any of the servers with name….!!

brianw, okay that is done.
brianw, i have emerged 915resolution

ClNorris, hey check my prob plz

garette, i know nothing of dns.
brianw, do you know how to configure 915resolution?

you use pppoe?

garette, nope

how are you connected to internet

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Intel_Onboard_Graphics_Notebooks_Native_Resolution

garette, dhcp through cable.
garette, how are you connected to the internet, lol.

lol i am using my friends' lol

how are any of us connected to the internet O_O

rofl
brantley, well can you help me?

dude, i cant help myself most of the times

lol did you checked my prob?

yea i scrolled up

lol
ne idea?

the file is resolv.conf , not resolve.conf

wow
lol
the same
i mis typed extra e
lol

what is in your resolv.conf file?

nameserver ip of my dns
thats it

that is wrong

brianw is the supreme leader

nameserver ip address

nameserver 172.31.1.1
was that right?
if that was my dns?

yes

lol then i had the same..
i am able to ping my dns

you said you just had the static ip hosting in there…
it is hard to help people when they do not cooperate

sorry

lol

brianw, so what now?
what else can we do?

we wait…

lol

make your resolv.conf file look like this: nameserver 4.2.2.1

all shall be revealed in time my good friend

then try to ping google.com

yay for att nameservers with small ips

anyone want to clue me in on what "checking if enviroment is sane" in a configure script really means?
environment*

yeah i did… the same in my resolv.conf, but its not pinging google.com with name.. but with ip adresss lol

Elfeater, so how are them elf's now adays?

so what is in your resolv.conf now?

mzbot, botsnack

brantleyr:

nameserver ip add

they arent bad, i enjoy the small childish ones the most, more tender

tell me exactly

nameserver 172.31.1.1
thats a lan dns which connects me to internet

I want you to take that out, and make it this: nameserver 4.2.2.1

Elfeater, i can only hope they arent children…

brianw, you want me to type that 4.2.2.1????

garette, you do not question brianw for he is supreme

i want your resolv.conf to only have this in it: nameserver 4.2.2.1

mostly no, i just dont feel like fighting for my meals so i choose the week ones

weak*

brianw, ok

Elfeater, mostly?, wow dude

k…. sorry i didnt realize you were the spelling nazi

can you ping google.com now?

haha what?

brianw

Elfeater, you said they're mostly not children, that dosnt apply to all of them, meaning somewhere in there you are eating a child dude, lol

brianw, no it didnt work…

ping 4.2.2.1

Elfeater, atleast brianw isnt one of those op's harping on us about the topic

brianw, well what 4.2.2.1, why that specific number???

does that work?
4.2.2.1 is a dns jboss server hosting on the internet

brianw, sorry i am not directly connected to internet.. my proxyserver lets me use inter content..

that little tid bit might of helped

I've emerged gnome and installed the ati drivers (I have a mobility 9200) but X wont start … I've also run xorgconfig any ideas?

brianw, so i have to have the lan dns server right,

is it a hidden proxy?

brianw, hidden, i dunno abt hidden proxies, lol plz dont mind
rofl

you need to tell linux to use the proxy
do you have a user for the proxy?

dude, some children need to die, and thats true about brainw

excuse me?
I am not a child, and do not think I need to die…

How do you turn off verbose mode in rc?

"brantleyr said: at least brainw is not harpin on us about the topic"

I've emerged gnome and installed the ati drivers (I have a mobility 9200) but X wont start … I've also run xorgconfig any ideas? I've also configured xdm to use gdm to start gnome

ahh

well, i am able to use lan stuff right now, and i am also connected to internet, but unable to access lan site, which opens with a name , i dunno its ip lol

errr … displaymanager

Elfeater, yea, but im not munchin down on em am i? lol

rather

so if you can use the internet what is the problem?

brianw, i added my proxy server's ip, in the place of its name

How do you turn off verbose mode in rc?

brianw, i am unable to access lan sites

well your letting a good meal go to waste then

what is the lan site for?
lan or internet?

Elfeater, naw, i got cheetos, its all good

brianw, my exam results

Elfeater, lol

you're

anyone help me out?

so you mean internet sites?

i hate cheetos
what?

Elfeater, to each their own

brianw, the site containing my exams results is maintained on a lan server, but not let on internet , now i have to access it how?

btw, there's a difference between grammar nazi and someone just trying to help someone out

you need to setup the proxy info on your browser
wait, this server is in your lan?

Elfeater, maybe you'd like cheetos with a side of elf?
Elfeater,

there is also a thing called sarcasm

brianw, lol, when i use, "myproxy.institute.ac.in" it doesn't work, instead if i use ip adress it works,

raventh1, dont poop on the parade man, lol

brianw, yes

what is your ip of y our box?

possibly, i havent tried it, lmao

brianw, box,?? you mean my comp.?

yes

172.26.81.47 lan ip

garette, or in my case, heater

lol

garette bitch keep my room nice n warm

then in my case its note book rofl

are you using dhcp?

garette, keeps*

sounds like my desktop

rofl
brianw, dhcp no no

Elfeater, AMD's create lots of heat
Elfeater, i guess its cuz their so beastly

so what DNS server(s) were you told to use by the NETADMIN

most likely haha

yeah, but they also can withsatand a whole lotta heat

brianw, 172.31.1.1

can you `ping 172.31.1.1` ?

brianw, i am abe to ping it,

also what is your SUBNET MASK ?

brianw, i set up the gateway and my static ip etc etc.. thats why i am connected to lan,

I know

brianw, but my comp is unable to know whay lan dns we have, so i am unable to connect to that lan site

let me see your /etc/conf.d/net file . use a pastebin

brianw, which is, results.institute.ac.in
brianw, yes one moment

brb

LOL
and he is to never be found again

rofl
then i am gone

i bet brianw is like "wow wtf is this dude doing, im out man"

brianw, http://rafb.net/p/v6KKC837.html

How do you turn off verbose mode in rc?

brantleyr , rofl

/mnt/gentoo: device is busy
i cant do that
is it still ok to reboot?

cd
then umount
your still in the dir somewhere

hi guys, I cannot find the soundcore module in my menuconfig, and I understand it I need that module to get sound working. currently modinfo soundcore tells me it doesn't exist so I know I have compiled it in yet. Does anyone know where I can find it?

thanks brantleyr

is there a way to register all the changes that would normally be made with a logout and re-login without having to logout?

brianw, http://rafb.net/p/v6KKC837.html man you back?????

RichW^, no its not ok to reboot, the world will collide and the heavens will fall upon us and unleash their great fury

Could someone tell me is procmail/sendmail support local email delivery that is seperate from the net?

great…

anyone know why my openoffice thumnails might not be working in thunar yet my jpgs etc are fine, according to thunar thumbnailers it does it out of the box http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/thunar-plugins/thunar-thumbnailers/

I am back

brianw, http://rafb.net/p/v6KKC837.html

answer me these questions: 1) can you `ping 4.2.2.1` ? 2) do you have dig installed? `which dig` ?

brianw, whats dig lol, i cat ping 4.2.2.1
lol

garette you dont know dig'ems the frog man? come on…

can you goto google.com though? are connecting to irc on this same computer?

is the soundcore simply the enable soundcore item under device drivers/sound in menuconfig?
err enable sound card
rather

brianw, as i said, me directly not connected, so it doesnt matter if i add internet dns or not, it just matters if i am connected to my proxy server

How do you turn off verbose mode in rc?

I know, but I want to know id regular internet access is working? just answer those two questions….

hold on ill look for you

edit /etc/conf.d/rc

brianw, so i am connected to my proxy server through ip adress rather its hostname

thanks

brianw, thanks.

can you goto google.com though? are connecting to irc on this same computer?
just answer those questions… ^^^

garette, yes, for the settings, i added proxy's ip adress and not its name, coz my comp doesnt know my lan dns

dude…

brianw, yeah?

yeah that was dumb of me haha, soundcore is a generic sound module, so yes, just enabling sound ( and ALSA) will compile that module

can you point your browser to google.com and the website comes up?

brianw, yes

that is all I asked…

you need to find the specific driver for your card as well, lspci should help you out

so now I know we can not use ping for tests, since your proxy server is blocking pings

brianw, yeah , i am on the same comp which i am talking abt

brianw, yes

ahh, thanks :-O, I must have made a stupid mistake somewhere. I was looking through man genkernel and I saw an –install flag. Does it not install automatically after compilation without that flag set?

can you emerge stuff?

brianw, yeah, wanna know how i did it?

you setup the proxy info in make.conf ?

any reason why /etc/resolv.conf doesn't keep my nameservers after a reboot?

i havent used genkernel but i suspect that you will probably have to copy the bzImage over to /boot yourself…. ill take a look for you though, hold up

garette you hit the pc really hard with your foot and cursed?

because you have an option in /etc/conf.d/net telling it to…

Yea, I did the lscpi thing, and found out it was a cmedia ISA device, so I enabled the only cmedia driver under ISA although it was a slightly different model number. That should work right?

brianw, no i set it up in wget's config file
brantley, rofl

Anyone able to help with a very wierd networking problem that involves ICS and wireless connections?

you can set it up in make.conf as well.

thank you brianw
doh

brianw, whats the difference
brianw, please lemme know

what is the model?

let me check again rq

brianw, but even there i didnt add my proxy host name, but just ip adress

ok, emerge -n bind-tools

and why are you using genkernel when you know how to compile the kernel yourself from source? you dont check options for genkernel…. im confused as to what you are actually doing

setting it up in the wget config is better really.

brianw, You know we all use linux here in our institution
brianw, more than 3000 people in the same network

I'm trying to cut down on harddrive access on my thinkpad, is there a way to easily log what is causing disk activity? also is there a way to make syslog-ng more laptop friendly?

umm, I'm too new to compiling kernels to find all the correct settings I think. So I use genkernel to get some basic safe settings down, then it lets you change those settings if you use the –menuconfig flags, so I only have to change the settings I know I want

brianw, what is that wget thing related to?

what?

ah, see i havent used genkernel, i dont know these things haha

where?

brianw, i mean whats wget,?

let me get the info for you about installing the genkernel

wget is a utility to download files

hehe, the last time I tried to compile a kernel I couldn't even boot it :-O

over http or ftp

brianw, lol i know, i wanted to ask something else, lemme make out