wesolek, change them all to say (hd0,1) instead of (hd0,0) which would be sda1 which you do not want

I've been having heating issues lately.. When I initially installed Gentoo I installed i8k utils to controll my fans from gkrellm. At some point while having the service run by default it was making the fans act weird. For example the fans would be set to automatic which is suppose to set the fans on full speed but it would seem to cause the fans to rev up and down constantly …

yea kinda sad im @ like 160 packages left, out of 270

Ok, now we have something. It's telling me that it couldn't bind to 127.0.0.1:9050

so I need to just change the (hd0,0) to (hd0,1)? grknight

GMouse, maybe that port is already taken?

wesolek,

netstat will tell

im using all the use flags with gnome-menus

grknight, reboot?

wesolek, after you change all 3.. you should be able to safely reboot

It shouldn't be taken. The only thing that I can think of that would interfere is my firewall. But I have iptables following extremely lax rules for OUTPUT

wesolek, and don't forget to pop out the CD

no no, it's listening problem
GMouse, check netstat -t -n -l

thanks for telling me, I just changed all 2!!! lol just correcting my mistake

nada

050

wesolek, the first error 15 is the splash image

I know that, grknight
ok here it comes
yeah

Then I decided to turn off the service but left the plugin in gkrellm active and it works without the constant reving,

nie blueish screen

Just that the temp goes up

hi, - net-misc/ipv6calc-0.45 (masked by: missing keyword) what i must to do?

Checking privoxy returns an error that it couldn't read /var/log/tor/config

I can't believe!!! it's actually doing something!!! like booting up I think!!!! monkeh, grknight

So I think if I fix tor, privoxy will work as well.

wesolek, you'll just have to remember to use (hd0,1) in grub from now on

/etc/portage/package.mask

— Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.mask: net-misc/ipv6calc-0.45

another question

grknight, monkeh… hm, how to say that.. FATAL: couldn't open some modules for wireless

wesolek, oops.. i think i found another error: "real_root=/dev/hda3"

in the mm1 patch of the vanilla kernel, CFS is included

they are 3 packet masked 0.45 0.50 0.51 i must add all?

upd when you use a version, u must use an = in front of the group

wesolek, that should be "real_root=/dev/sdb2"
sda2*

is it included by default or do you have to choose it in menuconfig?

I see that, grknight
let me change it

/etc/portage/package.mask

wesolek, fix that.. then reboot into the 2nd kernel.. that's newer and probably where your wireless is

Ok, now this is interesting. Google tells me that the problem could be that the loopback device doesn't exist. ifconfig confirms that.
lo doesn't exist for some odd reason.

remember to clear the line without "=" in front

!!! (Did you specify a version but forget to prefix with '='?)

GMouse, /etc/init.d/net.lo start

i clear it..
and don't work

and add that to boot runlevel

oh no, it was saying sda2, that's why it worked

pastie it please

wesolek, did you start the 1st or 2nd kernel on the list? the 2nd one is newer

ok booting to the newer kernel this time, grknight
File system couldn't be fixed - that's the message
and Give root password for maintenance

wesolek, you may be missing the correct fsck program
which filesystem is that?

astorm, that is way beyond my linux knowledge… I just followed the handbook

wesolek, a bit lousily I guess. log in as that root

wesolek, did you format it with mke2fs or something like mkreiserfs?

and type mount

no clue, grknight
I'm on it astorm

http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=1476 help
shoud i add all version?

ok astorm, it gave about 20 lines with info, anything particular you need?

upd, package.mask prevents installs not allows

welp, check the one with / in it

..

!earch ipv6calc

ipv6calc-0.45[0]: ipv6calc-0.50[0]: ipv6calc-0.51[0]: hppa ppc sparc x86

Ok! A little punching around on the CLI, and it all works! I don't know why net.lo wasn't on the startup list.

so what is solution?

do the echo thing to package.unmask

they all have / in it, astorm

sorry the mistakes

upd, whats your arch?

sorry welp, wesolek hmm, the one that has /, not /whatever

arch?

cooler, that's wrong

cooler, no problem

what you mean?

tmpfs on / type tmpfs (rw) /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,data=ordered)
astorm

upd, edit /etc/portage/package.keywords and add "net-misc/ipv6calc **" to it

wesolek, check if you have e2fsprogs installed

to allow a MASKED package you also need to put it at package.unmask

how astorm?

wesolek, uhm, emerge e2fsprogs

damn it, where are the logs for this channel?

cooler, yes.. only if it's masked by package.mask this is a keyword case

Evening everyone, I am new to gentoo but not to linux, i am most confortable with ubuntu and debian, but would like to try gentoo out after hearing much about it. Are there any good newbie guides for gentoo using either the min cd or live cd?

Stupid question…I finished installing kde…how do I start it?

hum

hi

startkde ?
or put startkde at .xinitrc and run startx

I've got an error while compiling kdelibs, anyone else experiencing problems with that ?

upd, add that line (without the quotes) and you'll be able to merge

grknight, works THANKS YOU!

It says canot connect to x server

grknight, he should remove it from his package.mask as well

it said something about read only files in /var/log/emerge.log and some other stuff, astorm

oh
he must've removed it

wesolek, heh, forgot about one thing then
wesolek, mount -o remount,rw /

Aeudian, don't use the installer is tip#1.. use the handbook

then try again

mzbot, teach Aeudian handbook

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

installer meaning live cd?

ok astorm

lol wow I feel stupid
Feel free to hit me

The only pages google can find with both your any my nicks on it is the log for this channel.\

Aeudian, you can use the livecd if you want a nice way to browse.. just don't use the installer program on it

- ken tyep

Aeudian, basically the minimal is just that… no xorg, all console
Aeudian, the livecd adds xorg, firefox and other goodies

I think it remounted that partition, astorm

wesolek, now try that emerge again

DrChandra, hmm….I see that. Then I try going up in the URL to just the gentoo directory and I only see 2006 stuff

do I need to be connected to the internet for that? astorm

wesolek, if you have it installed already, then no
but other than that, maybe

it looks like it's not… it says: couldn't download

for that to work

like /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start

Nothing newer?

what is the proper way to exit xorg ? ctrl+alt+backspace seems brutal

DrChandra, didn't see it
anyway….I asked a question and had to leave.

ok let me do it… unfortunately the wire is downstairs… brb

i just installed gentoo but after trying booting into i'm greeted with this "Calling quiesce …returning 0×01400000 from prom_init" on forums i have read that frame buffer is the cause of it, i have tried the suggestion made on there and also i have followed installion handbook without missing a step, I'm on ppc64, I would appreciate any help

close all programs that are running in it. if that's done and it's still running, then ctrl_alt_backspace will do absolutely no harm.

ok, then i need to figure out how to exit the wm, thanks

Looks like all the channels ended June 18th, 2006.

it won't start it, astorm

What are you looking for?

usually if the script that starts things is in ~/.xinitrc killing the last started one (usually wm) will end X.
what wm?

ion3

I have about 8.5 hours right now.

I just asked if anyone used AWN

oh. don't know how to exit it. sorry.

cannot run net.eth0 until sysinit completes

wesolek, do what you have to, then, to get the internet access

astorm

np, thanks for your help

it might be easier to start the livecd
and then mount and chroot like in the handbook

does anyone know the default location for sound devices in /dev/? (trying to get sound working in vmware)

I think you're right… astorm, brb

I see no replies.

DrChandra, thanks

Hi there!

No mentions of AWN, either, except for yours.

hmm, okay

anyone has any suggestions for solving the "Calling quiesce …returning 0×01400000 from prom_init" boot error ?

it's in the wm menu, by pressing f12 (just letting you know)

Hi. I have a problem with grub/gentoo fresh install. Same HD, i have windows (partition 1), swap (partition 2) and ext3 (partion 3) with gentoo. My devices are sda1/2/3 respectively. I have in grub.conf root(hd0,2) kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda3, and the kernel will begin to boot, but it iwll complain it cant mount the root FS. It says something about VMS/floppy, so i hit enter and, it says i have hd1/3 available
Any help or experiance with this would be appreciated

When I 'startx' it boots to a gui with three root bashes and when I start kde it looks really…primitive.

I can't even do that, astorm

Is it supposed to look like that?

glibc-2.6 does not actually support the nptl USE flag?

I tried to start the eth.0 and it gave me the same error as when booting up the system normally
this is crazy

wesolek, hmm
maybe your network provider is being funny

I don't think I am strong enough to keep going

check /etc/resolv.conf

nope, it was fine yesterday

and /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf
hmm

it rebooted now…. waiting to do it again

your ISP is acting evil

believe me, that's not it

thanks

my secure linux web hosting is acting evil
lol

is the default 512MB for an 80gb drive good for swap? i have never configured the partitions for linux ever, 512MB is what gentoo guide recommands

yea
depends on what you're going to do with system, but that's usually enough.

typical stuff, no gaming, maybe gui later on and some services
is it bad to go with 1GB?

it's fine

wesolek, well, you just forgot to install filesystem utilities - missed one step in the handbook

correct me if i am wrong, but swap is like a page file in windows? you dont want to much or to little? i have 1.5GB in memory

hi, just installed gentoo (using the handbook) and when I reboot my GRUB starts but does not give me the OS's I specified in my config file, it just has a "grub" command line. I have a seperate boot partition (hda5). You think maybe it's not reading the config file?

can we still do it now? astorm?

algun sevillano

wesolek, yes, if you get all needed files or network connection up

I will go downstairs to emerge it… maybe it'll pick it up

the easiest way would be to start as if you were installing
yep

do I need to do anything else other than emerge? while I am connected

pues que bien

wesolek, I don't think so

ok brb then
ok back… emerged
astorm

wesolek, now it should boot

do I need to install it or something?

well, emerge == installation

IMPORTANT: 2 config files in /etc need updating
but it doesn't say what files
should I just ignore it astorm?

wesolek, use etc-update

gentoo 4tw?

or dispatch-conf

ok I think I've done it… reboot now? astorm

wesolek, why not

astorm… same error

wesolek, weird
maybe check your /etc/fstab
if it's correct

but I don't know what device and I know that the 8139too module doen't work on this laptop

that's why I can't just simply use a live cd
cos it loads this bloody module!!!!

okay pleaes don't yell at us

I hate to say that, but it looks like I will have to apologise to windows astorm
unless anybody's got any idea how to load a live cd without the 8139too module…..

wesolek, hmm, nodetect should work
gentoo prompt
but I wonder if you'll be able to get networking up w/o network card driver

but then I will end up with what I had before… no hardware working

hm
I wonder why 8139too doesn't work

no, I tried that too… loading 8139cp didn't do the trick

any OOPS message, or just networking doesn't work?

it's this bloody lan card they put in this laptop

it's probably not 8139too
lspci will tell you

it is

could you paste here that one line from lspci about that card?
(Ethernet controller)

it won't tell anything cos as soon as you try to load the module, it hangs and only holding down the power button is a remedy

sounds really bad
try booting with nodetect, then run that lspci
btw, what kind of laptop it is?

it's a philips laptop
freevents X55
just type gentoo nodetect?
I can do it manually by entering the interactive mode and skipping autoconfig… is that the same?
astorm
monkeh are you still around?

wesolek, yes, the same

wait… I pasted my lspci yesterday
http://rafb.net/p/oSQjzd75.html
there astorm

wesolek, 404
that's why rafb.net sucks
I suggest pastebin.com or pastebin.ca

????
oh ok
let me copy it for you
http://pastebin.com/m48a8b2e6
astorm, I just don't know why I pasted first 24 lines…. look at 25-on

Hmm, it's a normal realtek
which livecd are you using?
BTW, you can use almost any
Knoppix is known to work well

2007.0 but it doesn't matter, I tried, ubuntu (3 different distributions), suse, and gentoo… they all do the same

i am following the gentoo handbook, and im on the part where i must download gentoo stage3, but i seem to get my download stalled/stoped around 7-9mb into the download, i have tried 5 differnet mirrors and all seem to stop, i am downloading the files to /mnt/gentoo just like the guide says and with the default partition sizes

wesolek, weird, sounds like a hardware problem

Try using wget

oh… knopix didn't work either
well… windows was ok

anyone did HOWTO XMMS2?

You're very unlucky it seems
probably buggy hardware

yeah, if knoppix isn't working, I'd definitely say issues with your hardware (whether NIC, router, or hard drive)

with bugs being worked around in windows drivers
would be of much interest to certain developers

and when I managed to delete this module as soon as ubuntu unzipped it, the instalation went fine, only my lan never worked

I don't know what is exactly wrong, but it'd be good to check the magic sysrq keys
if these work

rakeyry will do, is the digests file on the servers the md5 file to compare too?

it's alt+printscreen+some letter

You be the judge

figured as much =P

nothing works once it starts loading this module
astorm… just by looking at my lspci, can you tell me what modules I need to install, I guess I could do it manually

some here use pppoe-start
?

live cd has booted up now

http://pastebin.ca/622738

That's a start.

i got this error while i was compiling firefox
please have a look at it

wesolek, well, it looks like you should use 8139too, but… :/
maybe your card has broken PIO or MMIO
there is an option for that in the kernel

i cant use that, i tried with root #pppoe-start andsay only root can use that not found /bin/id

rakeyry, only without autoconfig I even managed to start the xserver (but only on vesa driver)
is there? astorm?

*

yes, but I don't know whether that's switchable from the kernel command line

huh?

you could try noapic option first

Command Line Interface is all you need…

APICs tend to be broken

there ?

and then, if that fails or works, irq=poll

rakeyry… I love my wobbly windows lol that's the only reason I want it on my laptop
lol

bdf“`: needs more info… post the entire emerge output if possible

How do I unmask an ebuild which has KEYWORDS=""?

astorm, do you want me to reboot it again????

wesolek, mhm

nDuff, **

o.o A waste if you ask me.

damn. astorm… lol
oo? rakeyry?

thank you.

I use dwm.

does anyone know if an svn checkout dies half way through, can it pick up where it left off?

rakeyry, I have no idea what you are saying… oo and dwm doesn't tell me anything

in CUPS, it insists that my parallel port is busy — is there any way to "force" it to be free again?
without rebooting that is

sometimes, but you may need to prune bits. the working tree library is probably the ugliest, most hackish code in svn.

i was trying to install firefox and it gave me this error please have a look at it http://pastebin.ca/622738

"no" is really the easier answer to that question.

dwm - http://dwm.suckless.org/

bdf“`: again, thats not enough info, post the entire emerge output if possible, or then, post the most of it you can.

gentoo noapic ???? or gentoo noacpi??? and btw, I've done it too with gentoo acpi=off, astorm

sure give me two mins

wesolek, the first one

damn, somebody misspelled it last night, and maybe that's why it didn't work???
and leave it to load itself?

wesolek, no, it's another option
yes, leave it to load

Yeah Linux doesn't handle typos well

rakeyry, it's not a typo - it's another option

O

thanks astorm

h

gentoo noload=8139too - but it didn't work

http://pastebin.ca/622750

On the following page http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX#Installing_AIGLX I have just 'emerge –sync –newuse world' and it tells me to type glxinfo | grep direct I'm getting 'bash: glxinfo: command not found'

i have tried to copy as much as i could

sorry… didn't work Kernel panic - not syncing: CPU context corrupt - so the same as before

Was I suppose to emerge something else as well?

Nod-ubuntu, did you install mesa?

and it's hanging… let me try that other thing you said
astorm

No I have not installed Mesa. Am I suppose to?

Nod-ubuntu, install mesa

wesolek, irq=poll

Simple as 'emerge mesa' ?

Yes
Well
Nod-ubuntu, more specifically mesa-progs

compiz fusion is unstable?

Nod-ubuntu, but those depend on mesa I believe

So which is it? 'emerge mesa' or 'emerge mesa-progs' ?

Nod-ubuntu, try emerge mesa mesa-progs

please?

bdf“`: type equery uses mozilla-firefox and paste the output

I tried installing my system from where I had the live cd started with no autoconfig, and it asked me for modules that I want to have installed… can I just install everything except for the 8139too? and then when it's all up and running focus on my LAN?
astorm

alright

nope astorm, this one didn't work either, same kernel panic

[ Searching for packages matching mozilla-firefox… ]
!!! No matching packages found for "mozilla-firefox"

bdf“`: … ?

wesolek, so, it's a kernel panic

Is there any way to clear out all of my kernel setting and start all over

bdf“`: uhm, then type emerge -pv mozilla-firefox and paste the ebuild line for me (in a pastebin)

ok

could you copy the output? Digital photos are ok

well this system says so… not always though… I guess depends on it's mood, but it hangs absolutely
hold on… I think I can do this

Anyone know if there is a way to start with a fresh kernel, i used genkernel and have way to muach clutter in my kernel

make mrproper
wipes the config and everything

astorm, I wll just do it again so there there is no linux graphic window - more to see

Thank you

http://pastebin.ca/622759

do you have any other option you want to try, may as well as need to boot it up again
astorm

wesolek, I'm out of ideas for now

bdf“`: "mozilla-frefox"?

btw it says if you want help , post the topmost build error where should i post it anyways
yea mozilla-firefox

bdf“`: read it again "mozilla-frefox"

ok

anyone beable to get wx.net running on gentoo?

bdf“`: "frefox"?

not sure you'll be able to read any of it

When you are following the documentation for setting up your kernel and its telling you what to have selected. Does that mean you can untick everything else? IE: Psiedo filesystems for example, it only has 2 items ticked out of the default 4 things that mrproper has ticked.

sorry here is the new one ! http://pastebin.ca/622765

/etc/portage/package.us)

emerge -pv mozilla-firefox

bdf“`: .use?
bdf“`: if the filename was wrong, it *could* be it, but not probably
bdf“`: "-java", yea, its wrong..

no Skankerpotimous that i gave after it finished
i gave env USE="java" emerge mozilla-firefox

bdf“`: dont do that

ok ok , then what should i do ?

/etc/portage/package.use

bdf“`: then run env-update && source /etc/profile

Is "[*] Use PCI DMA by default when available" now called something else, I am not seeing it

bdf“`: then try emerging firefox again

ok wait a sec

anyone ever done a remote install / got any docs i can look at?

ever did a stage3 manual install ?

what do you mean by 'manual' ? i have done stage3 a lot

has "Enable DMA only for disks" Replaced "[*] Use PCI DMA by default when available" ??

what kind of "remote install"? kicking off an installation via netbooting? doing a fully unattended installation?

i have a running centos server, i want to replace it (dont care about config etc.) with gentoo, then rebuild from scratch

Anyone?

partition and then download and untar stage3, portage snapshot etc, etc …

ahh. what does your hard drive situation look like? If you can use a completely separate partition to stage into, that's ideal.

no idea, that sort of thing would be in kernel mailing list archives, changelogs or someplace equally obscure though

You dont need to enable dma?

this could be the issue http://pastebin.ca/622772

ideally, you'll be on LVM or somesuch, so there's no rebooting needed to put updated partition tables into effect &c.

my partitions are basically 2 x 250GB disks RAIDed together, then a seperate boot partition (also raided)

it's easy enough to find out; look up what the .config option is for both old and new kernels.

two physical disks but two 'md' volumes spanning them

bdf“`: maybe, then wait a sec

what can't you do remotely ?

ok

astorm.. ok I got the pic, where do you want me to send it to?
it's not the best pic, but I think it'll be ok

well i want to install gentoo, basically i need to untar the stage3 tarball and portage, set up grub, re-install grub, then reboot the server remotely
i can ssh in to the centos system already

wesolek, hm, imageshack will work

if you keep your existing boot partition, no need for grub installation afaik

imageshack.com?

wesolek, yes

i would just untar stage3 and portage-snapshot, chroot, compile a kernel, add sshd to default runlevel, setup root password and add an entry to grub menu.lst …

maybe it's better if i change the root partition .. do you know if there's a tool so that i can resize my 250gb disk's RAID volume (/') while running? if not then i guess i'll have to remove one disk from it, and create a single-disk new root partition… ?
i'm thinking a clean new root partition would be ideal

no LVM running on top of that RAID device, then, I take it. Makes things a little trickier unless you have an initrd you can boot into which will be immediately net-accessible (in which case you'll be able to repartition and have it take immediate effect, and do other Useful Things).

i don't know, but i would try to boot from a rescue system and just empty the partitions …. and keep the partitionning, if you hadn't any problem with it, there shouldn't be any need touching it

Out of curiousity should VLC running in screen A of a non-xinerama dual head setup be able to full screen video onto screen B?

taking the time to build an initrd which will start up sshd with a preset root password will make the rest of your life easier wrt the project. test it locally (maybe in a qemu image) to be sure it'll actually work before you run the risk of rebooting your real apache geronimo server hosting into it.

bdf“`: id recommend creating a bug at bugzilla, i cant seem to run emerge too, it fails to download the patches tarball.
bdf“`: and sorry, now i gtg, cya later

sure thanks alot

good suggestion, thanks. is there a small bootable net-accessible disk image you can recommend?

do I need to register there? astorm?

Hmm, I don't know

not off the top of my head. I've been doing a bunch of playing with catalyst, so I'm in a decent position to be able to make one… but I don't know of any prebuilt.

rebooting

Actually, just sending this pic by email to me should work

speaking of which… how much trouble will it be if this server gets into a horked/non-net-accessible state? it's pretty easy to goof up in ways that cause that result.

(if i understood right?) i cant reboot to a rescue system as i dont have local access to select it…

I can send it to kernel devs just fine
astralstorm@gmail.com

not a huge trouble, i have tipped off the hosting provider, they will be able to get it back to ssh-able

cool.

just cost me ~US$40 hehe

ahh.

prefer not to pay that if possible
lucky for some! where do you live? my server is NY, i live in .cn, but i'm in .au now (where i'm from / grew up)

I'm in austin.tx.us

oil country! i guess the gas is cheap there

so i have this issuse not sure how it came to be , i updated net.eth0 with etc-update and now i cant seem to get eth0 up
i can ifconfig eth0 up but it doesnt connect

http://www.yourhostedimages.com/images/wesolek/dscf0051.jpg and http://www.yourhostedimages.com/images/wesolek/dscf0048.jpg astorm

it acts like it doesnt know what $IFACE is
this is a known issuse or can someone offer any advice

heh… by a lot of standards, yes. compared to the rest of .tx.us it's expensive — but other texans think Austin land prices are expensive too; coming from .ca.us, I think they're dirt cheap.

at boot it just says bring up …….. not bring up eth0

there are 2, hopefully you can see something on them, astorm

wesolek, yes, but it won't tell anyone much

sydney real estate is really expensive… maybe not for americans, but for everyone here it is

it's basically a CPU exception

lol I thought there were just for you

I've done mesa mesa-progs.

anyway i might ask them if they can put a cdrom in and start an ssh server so i can do a remote-install that way instead, might save time / be lower-risk

noone can offer any advice?

Nod-ubuntu, now glxinfo | grep direct

that'd be easier, yes.

wesolek, hmm, does the same happen with nodetect when you load 8139too?

Do I need to configure anything from this ? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

what am I supposed to do now? I tried to file a bug report once and it came back to me as I didn't do it right…

Nod-ubuntu, not yet

Such as the videocard drivers and input devices?
Okay

wesolek, ^

Nod-ubuntu, this simply checks to see if you have direct rendering going

Error: unable to open display (null)

astorm, when you just try to load 8139 it hangs… without producing any line of comment

Nod-ubuntu, do have X running?

anyone know if g15tools supports the g11 as well? the ebuilds don't say

I dont believe so.
I'm in CLI - fresh install of gentoo minimal cd

Nod-ubuntu, so you're running it from the terminal?

Yeppers

with the live cd it at least makes it to show the error before it hangs lol… but there are times it won't make it lol

when i ran the command: "make clean && make && make && make modules_install" the first line read awk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file '/usr….. for reading

Nod-ubuntu, you have to start X and then issue the command

How can I make sure I even have X installed?

minor723_2 what are you trying to compile host what kernel?

Nod-ubuntu, try startx

Attempting.

2.6.21-gentoo-r4

bash: startx: command not found

all you need to do is make && make modules_install

emerge x?

wesolek, hmm

Isn't that part of xorg-server?

I will try that, thank you

probably the comment goes to the syslog

astorm, can I find a list of modules needed for my lspci? I'll give it a go

Nod-ubuntu, I suggest you simply emerge KDE, Gnome, or Xfce4

so i have this issuse not sure how it came to be , i updated net.eth0 with etc-update and now i cant seem to get eth0 up

Nod-ubuntu: the bare minimum is emerge xorg-server, but most emerge xorg-x11 which includes xorg-server as a dependency

it acts like it doesnt know what $IFACE is

wesolek, I can tell you what you need

what is it then?

but then, the problem is with the machine - it's buggy and needs a kernel quirk most likely

Nod-ubuntu, that might take a little longer, but it gives you more features, and more friendly environment

mzbot, gentoo Nod-ubuntu xorg modular

I preformed a 'emerge xord-x11 already. Am I suppose to 'emerge kde' now?

Nod-ubuntu: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml

Nod-ubuntu: do you really want kde?

dwm! FTW!

I'd try anyway, astorm

I have emerged java, but when I run javac I get an error that says * javac is not available for sun-jre-bin-1.6 on i686, can anyone help me get javac working?

Yes, I don't have a problem using it. It was suggested last night to me by like 6 people

Nod-ubuntu: emerge kde-meta

I've wasted so much time on it, 2 hours more won't make any difference

Thank you

astorm

I always installed e16 first so I could use graphical programs while KDE built

8139too uhci_hcd ehci_hcd hda-intel
and of course proper SATA support built in

mzbot, gentoo Nod-ubuntu kde-meta

Nod-ubuntu: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/draft/complete/handbook.xml?style=printable&part=1&chap=4

argh

Hello. I would like to talk to someone for some questions regarding Gentoo. I am a windows user who would liket o start using Gentoo despite it's reputation for being difficult because I would like to sincerely learn linux host through using it.

wesolek, wait, I have another idea for a kernel commandline option

mzbot, gentoo Nod-ubuntu kde

Nod-ubuntu: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml

ok

what's the question?

sonokamome, it's got one hell of a learning curve, but if you like that sort of challenge it's incredibly satisfying

wesolek, pci=routeirq

Well I would like to know if there is a LiveCd that I can use to test out Gentoo if possible?

what do you mean by proper sata support built in?

what's the diffference between berkdb and fsfs for running an SVN server?

Gentoo is a 'meta-distribution'

please explain.

there are no 'default' packages installed
you choose what you want to put in

ok booting up….. astorm

bdb… is kind of… volatile.

sonokamome, Not really. I'd say find a few days when you can be comfortable reading docs and playing around with the computer, download a Knoppix ISO and a Stage3 tarball and dive in. That's how I did it.

dude this is killingme i gota get some help

I see.

is it possible to completely remove the panel?

So far I have yet to try Ubuntu and Fedora Core

slaytanic is the contension between them a speed thing? a who came first thing? the wikinode is really vague on this

wesolek, one more thing - boot the machine w/o detection, and paste dmesg output on some pastebin

bdb came first. I doubt you'll see any speed diference.

slaytanic so you'd reccomend fsfs for stablitiy's sake?

So I guess I should do that first and get used to the environment and terminal use before considering Gentoo then.

indeed.

so i have this issuse not sure how it came to be , i updated net.eth0 with etc-update and now i cant seem to get eth0 up it acts like it doesnt know what $IFACE is wheni boot up any it trys to start the network it says "Bring up ……… ok instead of bring up net.eth0

same kernel panic astorm

it is straightforward to install if you read the Gentoo handbook thoroughly, with the Gentoo wiki for any other questions

wesolek, hmm, give me that dmesg output then

I see

ok hold on… astorm

sonokamome, I switched from Fedora to Gentoo back when Fedora was only on Core 4. I used Ubuntu for about a week in between the two. Fedora's a way better learning distro than Ubuntu I think.

wesolek, you might be able to boot with nrcpus=1, but that will disable the second core

friendly12345, speak for yourself, it took me 3 tries to build a kernel that booted.

and it means the mainboard is buggy as hell

So there is no LiveCd to test out then? That's alright I will try out something and stick with it until I get used to it. Then, I will jump into Gentoo since I have heard good things about it. Again I really do want to learn linux

do you think this is the processor?

can't say that I built the kernel the first time either, but the kernel faq on the forum indicated what to do

anyone know of an overlay gimpshop 2.2.11 ebuild would be in?

if i recompile my kermel will i have to do anything to X11 or kde?

no

wesolek, no, buggy mainboard

sonokamome, that's definitely the way to look at it. A friend of mine always used to tell me that if you wanted to learn how to use a distro, use that distro…but if you wanted to learn linux you should use Gentoo.

maybe reinstall your graphic drivers
who wants to try to give me some adive :0

Yeah I was trying to get the Opengl screen savers to work and they would not

no

I must not have something working correctly

What're you telling the poor guy to do to his kernel now?

do I need the xserver?

Direct Rendering may or may not be affected though

vantage, you could always try deleting net.eth0 and then emerge baselayout

Monkeh, I'm trying to get his dmesg output now

lol monkeh….

I already gave him a working kernel

Monkeh, btw, do you per chance know, what is broken there?

Minimal, but bootable and functional

okay

With it locking up due to 8139too?

w/o 8139too, yep?

thank you friendly

No, with.

sloloem what else is included in baselayout will it mess up other configuration files?

how do you burn a music CD with the gnome CD/DVD burner?

Monkeh, yes, could you tell?

It's a simple kernel option. PIO instead of MMIO. One of the 8139too options.

I will have to compile twice i believe

ahha

monkeh, and I can't get the system to start up I knew I'd screw it up

what I did suspect, broken MMIO
wesolek, hmm, you're a bit out of luck

Which is set in the kernel I gave him, the config of which should be used for any other kernel

you need to replace the module

I am going to try to use gensplash, but it told me i had to compile first

and thank you sololme
later

which will be a tiny bit harder now that you don't have a network connection

vantage, looks like all the basic stuff in /etc, /lib/rcscripts, some other junk. You could run equery f baselayout and look for yourself if you have baselayout

He cam just boot off the CD I made for him..

COULD someone be kinda enough to show me there /etc/init.d/net.eth0 and /etc/conf.d/net im almost postive its notthe net configu cause it should work if oneisnt present

wesolek, hmm, so why not use it?

I did

sloloem where is $IFACE defind?

vantage, /etc/conf.d/net.example
read it

i know
i have….

w/o any config file, it should use dhcp
wesolek, well, where does it fail then?

yea thats what i said

is it possible to change distros once installed?

the system on hdd?

yes

brandon_, hmm, very hard

let's now reboot, astorm

wesolek, where does it fail? Boot from hdd, or the livecd?
ahha

now boot from the hdd

so the system from hdd fails
you have to boot the livecd and reconfigure the kernel on hdd

Astorm wanna do me a favor

to twiddle the option
vantage, why not
I can paste my config

can you paste your /etc/ ahah thanks

(sans wlan password)

What, you're using WEP?

init.d/net.eth0

astorm… I simply don't know how to do that…. do you want that dmesg output?

vantage, http://pastebin.ca/622793
vantage, /etc/init.d/net.eth0 should be linked to net.lo
like this:

Wow if you configure your kernel yourself it compiles so much faster!

ln -s /etc/init.d/net.lo /etc/init.d/net.eth0

ok guys… thanks a lot for your help and sorry for wasting your time… I need to go to bed now

thanks

wesolek, uhm, I don't need it
check out genkernel documentation
there is an option to use menuconfig with it
there, I can tell you which option to change

Pff, no need to use genkernel

anyone know why when i try to digest an ebuild it won't get the version # right to fetch the package?

Monkeh, uhm, he does it teh handbook way ;P

He just needs to take the config off my kernel and add any needed bits (SDHCI etc)

Monkeh, or just tweak the PIO option in the default genkernel config
:P

I used genkernel the first time and it took a very long time i just did it manual and man its so freaking fast

ASTORM i was kinda hoping for /etc/init.d/net.eth0 but i have a feeling its gunna be the same it only messed up when i updated it with etc-update

genkernel is bloated and annoying, vs my perfectly working kernel which just needs a few thigns added

vantage, you should link it to net.lo

jesus

Monkeh, … Kernel that loads just what it needs isn't bloated
it might be slower too boot though

does there exist a simple, semi-intelligent, multiplatform file synchronisation tool?

*to

Yeah, and it takes ages to compile

adante, yep, rsync

There are literally hundreds of drivers in the kernel, and genkernel builds them all. Only a handful apply to each machine.

I know, still, it's newbie-friendly

astorm yea im gunna give that a try , im at a friends house cause the was teh only comp on my network at he moment

so no one knows about ebuilds?
sheesh

hm?

why when i try to digest an ebuild it won't get the version # right to fetch the package?

I like newbie friendly things

Correction: You got the version wrong

craptasm, my firefox won't start

is rsync able to stop if the same files have been edited independently?

pastebin the ebuild.

adante, uhm, no

astorm i still dont think thats the problem because ive tried to start net.lo to it just doesnt recognize net.eth0

it's not for collaboration

k, 1 sec

you want some svn, git, or other RCS

it's actually just not outputting it in the wget

vantage, not start
symlink

i don't want full blown version control

hey guys, is it possible that mandriva distr. would work? or it doesn't matter what I try to load?

I gave you the command even

Any distro with the right kernel option set will work.
That is not many.

wesolek, uhm, you just need to fix the kernel

yea i know to link files okay ill go home and give it a shot thanks

just something between, which seems closer to synchronisation than a repos

Should I upgrade to the 2.6.22 (~x86) series on my laptop?

wesolek, it should be possible to fix it from livecd
either manually, or with genkernel

Not unless it has something you'll benefit from

http://rafb.net/p/tGVgir94.html

astorm, monkeh did it for me last night, I have no clue how to do it on my own

will, you can try it, why not
wesolek, hmm, there is a howto on gentoo.org for that

I loaded genkernel, but there were so many options, I just don't know these things so I left it as it was

will, shouldn't break - and you don't have to remove the previous version
wesolek, ah, I can tell you which option to switch
it's just one that prevents the boot

Out of curiousity should VLC running in screen A of a non-xinerama dual head setup be able to full screen video onto screen B?

it's starts booting up, but then it says something about a wrong format or something like that

wesolek, hmm?

I would like to use uvesafb, but I also don't know how much I'd have to re-emerge (laptop-mode-tools, hdapsd, tpctl)

hold on, let me boot up from the hdd

is uvesafb the new user one?
aint it slower than h/w ?

uvesafb sounds like… GREAT NEWS
why didn't I hear about it earlier?

now my hosting provider suggests doing the gentoo install from a minimal centos install

well that was the problem I came here with tonight

hello how can i configure the keys on my keyboard (volume up, down, mute, etc etc) with kde?

anything you see?

Gimme a minute

but I guess it drifted off somewhere else by the time you joined in, astorm

heh.

wesolek, it's probably wrong /etc/fstab

you actually could do it from your full centos install, if you're willing to get a bit funky with the RAID configuration.
it's a RAID-1, right?

yeah i'm mailing them back about the RAID .. thats my only concern
RAID-mirror whatever that is

I have all of my HW working (acpi, cpufreq, hw acceleration, sleep, wireless, etc), I assume a new kernel version will break this?

astorm

and then that the file system couldn't be fix - astorm… let me run the newer kernel

good. force one of the drives out of the array; partition it, set it up with its own separate RAID-1 device (with the other drive, which will still keep CentOS on it during the install process, marked as missing) marked as missing; do your whole gentoo setup on the new drive, boot onto it, and after you've done that successfully, add the CentOS drive to the mirror with the Gentoo on.
s/on.$/one./

wesolek, you really have to modify /etc/fstab as it should be
it's somehow broken on your machine

good idea

that is not surprizing at all

Out of curiousity should VLC running in screen A of a non-xinerama dual head setup be able to full screen video onto screen B?

should I boot up monkeh's cd and then mount the / drive? and chroot?
astorm

wesolek, yep

I'll give it a go then

Could you put that ebuild somewhere which doesn't screw it up?

nm i got it working somehow
errr, or i thought i did
where should i paste it?

You don't want to paste.

wahts a small program
I can test distcc with eemrge
to make sure its workiong properly?

?

Just one more question, after i recompile a kernel, I just want to know what other commands i need to do? I have to add the modules to the make.conf and thats it? Do i have to change grub at all?

You need to upload it somewhere.

Is there a way to control an ATI card's fan speed much like you can control an NVidia card's using nvclock?

ok I'm in, astorm

http://www.speedyshare.com/993871629.html\
http://www.speedyshare.com/993871629.html

Works fine.

astorm, can you help me modify it?

it's not here… wth

I see it's not right

4 (348.01 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/gimpshop-2.2.11.tar.bz2' saved

wesolek, well, change the /dev/ROOT to your / device
the same which you have mounted to get there
set the filesystem correctly too

did you compile the kernel with genkernel?

(it's most likely ext3)

it fails with this: http://rafb.net/p/XSAGqg63.html

I have a multipart 7zip archive with two parts, one ends in .7z.001 and the other .7z.002. When I run "7z x" on the first one though, the resulting file is a corrupt .7z file that can't be read. It should extract a .iso fiile though! How can I get my .iso out of the two-part 7-zip archive?

see how the pkg name and the versin are completely missing?
wtf?

astorm, should I leave it noauto,noatime ???? and some strange numbers? 1 2 or 0 1???

I'l kicking myself for not knowign about module-rebuild populate…

something is very wrong on your end. It works here (though that file is nowhere to be found)

all my other custom ebuilds and portage ebuilds work fine

wesolek, yes, you can
the numbers are required

Well whatever ebuild you just sent me is not the one you're using.

does it mean anything? astorm?

whats a small app? i can test out

sendmail help please. I've got a sendmail running off my localhost. When I try to sent a message by telnetting to the localhost 25, it works.

distcc?

yeah it is, i even downloaded the one i sent you just in case

wesolek, of course, they do
man fstab will tell you

but when I use "mail -s" it doesn't work.

can someone give me the iso download that would work the same as i386?

The line to download the gimp-help tarball is commented out in the ebuild you sent me..

will it mount as it is? astorm?

yeah, that's cuz i commented it out

….

wesolek, maybe

cuz it wasn't working on either of them

Which means it won't try to fetch the file, and it thus works fine.
If you uncomment it.. it just tries to fetch a file which doesn't exist

I can't tell without seeing it

lol astorm, can I just type auto to all of them? except the swap

Downloading 'http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/gimp/help/testing/gimp-help-2-0.9.tar.gz'

yeah, but with it commented, it won't
with or without, it's not working here

It works fine with it commented.
If you uncomment it, you'll have to point it to a file which exists.

Can someone get me a correct link to i386 gentoo?

shm /dev/shm tmpfs ……. should I leave it?

should be comments explaining it
and yes, if you don't understand something, it's generally best host to leave it alone

reisio… then I probably shouldn't be installing linux at all

hi all, this is my first time configureing a wireless ethernet card. lspci shows the device, however iwconfig says that eth0 (wired), lo, and sit0 have no wireless extensions. I'm not sure that all this means

let's not get silly :p

wesolek, should work, yes

I am serious… I can't get it to work

check that fstab 3 times
the /dev/… entries should be correct

TheLorax, You probably don't have drivers for it.
quinton_, What do you mean?

how can you copy and paste in a putty shell?

app-misc/screen

well… like i need a 32 bit install for gentoo?

+hlieberman, yeah most likely. I didn't install any, just started the wireless howto. Are the drivers in the kernel?

quinton_, the x86.

I dont follow reisio

never leave localhost without it :p

TheLorax, Depends on the card, and how you built your kernel.

oh thats what it is?

ok it booted without mounting the network, but it may change once it's connected to the wire

oh, emerge -atv app-misc/screen

astorm

it helps with things like copying & pasting without a mouse

wesolek, ok, check it out then

hlieberman, I built it manually. lspci says "Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG.

quinton_, Yes. x86 is what you want for a 32 bit install, in all likelyhood. for i386, yes.
Ahh.
mzbot, wiki host TheLorax 3945ABG

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_W5F

ok brb astorm

hlieberman, cool thanks.

thanks im going to give it a whirl have a bunch of modules to add

just give a yell if you can't figure it out via the man page, et al.

TheLorax, Er… http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_ipw3945 is a better link.

starting backup

hlieberman, I got to that page from the one you gave me anyway

TheLorax, Did the same thing I did.
TheLorax, Don't bother with the iwlwifi. Just stick to the simpler (but not necessily better) mess that is ipw3945

ok it boots up without any errors astorm

hlieberman, was about to ask.

still far away from what I had in mind though
thanks monkeh, astorm… I need to hit the hay if I don't wanna loose my job lol

hi
can i delete the /portage/distfiles
are those the actual applications?

Those are downloaded source tarballs; you can safely remove them. (They will be downloaded again if needed.)

that's so much sound like pkgsrc
distfiles

thank u
can i run gentoo on a 4 gig drive using slug..
i think its a bit low lol
debian was workign kinda well with ti..

using iwl3945 at the moment, seems fine, but no LED lights

friendly12345, But it's not in portage.

negative
hardmasked, but in portage

teach EnterUSerName about distfaq

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#distfiles

friendly12345, my LED worked in ubunut

can recommend resources that will show me how to correctly emerge java and jdk?

gentoo white_rabbit_obj java hosting guide

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml

guys, anyone knows where i get mercury msn to install at gentoo?

if you're just after browser plugins, just keep an eye out for 'java' and 'nsplugin' USE flags

no, I'm talking about the driver for 2.6.22 kernel and above

eh?

I've been through the gentoo guide a few times already, but I get an error when I run javac

ntie nite astorm, monkeh

white_rabbit_obj u installed a jdk already?

reisio, do u know?

I didn't understand your question

well, I think I've installed a couple out of frustration
at one point I had 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 at the same time

friendly12345, I have no idea what you're talking about then

but compile your java code online didn't work

white_rabbit_obj check out java-config-2

media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1 failed.

reisio, where does i obtain the mercury?
it's a msn client

www.mercury.to
it is not in portage

dont have in portage

^[[32;01m*^[[0m Checking for suitable kernel configuration options…
^[[31;01m*^[[0m ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.

ah, 1min

Isnt that what I am supposed to do?

does have any overlay that contains it?

/usr/lib/jvm/sun-jdk-1.6

that might do the trick — I just cleaned out all of my previous jdk installs so that I can restart this guide from scratch, but I think that's a good place to start troubleshooting

white_rabbit_obj its prob not the "right" way but it works

http://xrl.us/24rf
wiki bonesss 3rd party

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds

Well maybe there will be more peeps around tomorrow to help with sound support
Cya tomorrow :0

alright, I'll have to give that a try…I fine with just getting it to work

I tried install x86 gentoo install… it runs alot of text and never boots an install screen of any sort?

white_rabbit_obj javac -version returns javac 1.6.0_02

have you read the install guide?

errrr on the gentoo site?

yeah

Minor723, don't use the alsa-driver package, use the in-kernel drivers

No to gloat (ok I am a bit), I'm very glad I picked up this Thinkpad R50, I have everything working except hibernation (not going to bother with this) and the fans, any ideas?

will, Have you looked at the thinkwiki?

that's good to know too…for a while I was thinking that maybe there was a problem with the java 1.6 compiler

will, There's an entire wiki dedicated to installing Linux on Thinkpads.

ok, the upgrade to 2.6.22 may fix this anyway

what would be the quickest command-line method of checking why a particular package is masked?

will, cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan might have some useful info.

emerge -pv =product-version ; but am curious is eix, herdstat, or any others also read this information …

timotheus, grep -C (some number) (package) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask

what is a good gnome torrent program?

hlieberman, there is no ibm/fan

run mldonkey and use its web interface
get mldonkey (protocol handler plugin for firefox that adds clicked links to mldonkey server queue)

hlieberman, any /proc/acpi/fan/ is empty

far and away the best solution i've found

will, Oh. Never mind then.

is qt a real long compile?

long enough

woot woot back online

expect at least say 30 mins if you've got a fast machine

took about 20 mins on my athlon xp 2400+

fun
im short on ram and have 2.4ghz p4
I need to get more ram :/
thanks for the estimates though

qt and kde are among the most memory hungry compilations

way up there with app-suck/alzheimers

^ ^

kde rocks

just to make sure that it takes longer I have 3 emerges going in diff terminal windows at the same time

pumice rocks

see if I can burn up the swap space

'updatedb' :p

hmm, never noticed that on the tree

maybe you don't have slocate, etc.

no, app-suck/alzheimers

you must have just forgotten

hehe

way to brutalize the fantasyworld :p

I am getting ready to emerge X, I would like to know how to make it install the nvidia legacy driver instead of the nvidia driver
got a gf4mx440 8x agp card

emerging X doesn't emerge nvidia drivers, unless the open source ones…

yes it does
[ebuild N ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 6,328 kB
part of emerge -avp xorg-server
now - how do I handle this?

look at your video_cards in /etc/make.conf

I did, its set to nvidia - is there an nvidia-legacy setting?

gentoo GeeBus nvidia guide

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

? xorg config

If you just emerge the legacy drivers manually, it should work fine

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

GeeBus logged off?

im here

my auto-complete isn't working — hehe
if you mask x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers then xorg-server ebuild will pull in legacy

my video card might work with the regular drivers

what's a good program to manage wireless network connections with in kde?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html

I would expect so for Geforce 4 ; I think only GeForce 2 and older are "legacy"

I was pretty sure my card was too old for the reg driver
maybe its just the beta drivers I cant use, and I dont care about those
bmaybe its just the beta drivers I cant use, and I dont care about those/b
NICE thank you timotheus
theres hope for me yet

actually, I think the newer drivers killed TNT, and everything /before/ GeForce

Is there a program like PeerGuardian for linux?

how do I get a kernel dump to inspect with gdb later?

Smak, azures, or whatever has a plugin for it

does gentoo's mplayer really not have a gui

brandon_, look up gmplayer

there are core dump options in the hacking/debug section of the kernel config

need gtk use flag for that iirc

azures keeps bugging

definitely off by default, will need to custom compile

anyone familiar with domain name server?

brandon_ is it a text problem by anychance?

have to enable the 'gtk' USE flag

let me check my options…

wiki brandon_ emerge mplayer

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Emerge_MPlayer

this one, net-dns/bind

i'm actually on debian, but i think i'm going to switch to gentoo

thinkin' again?

you use gmplayer, not mplayer

yeah, right after i'm something close to fully configured

has anybody ever had any problems with azureus text being all messed up?

gmplayer being the exec name, not another package

jesus

although there are many other frontends to mplayer

is there a way to get rsync to work over ssh on a nonstandard ssh port?

(3rd party)

how do you make startup scripts for programs?

like to do what?

like gmplayer -nogui

you want to run it from what - a term?
from a DE?

–port perhaps

not entirely sure myself … gmane.linux.kernel.kernelnewbies is a good newsgroup/mailing list to try

decent shells support aliasing (to run from term)
decent DEs support basically the same thing
how did you do it in Debian?
probably the same way :p

ok, yes apparently it is -P for scp and and -p for ssh

if not that, -e 'ssh -p portgoeshere' or similar

I take it back, it didn't work

what didn't work?

gmplayer -nogui

try: mplayer

doesn't sound like something that should work :p

that didn't work either

is there a better way than messing with /etc/conf.d/eth* to seutp things like WEP keys, ESSIDs, etc?

hm

what exactly are you trying to do?

just run mplayer without the skin window controls

how do i get rsync to… sync stuff?

how do you not? :p

mplayer w/o the g should do that, unless you have GUI explicitly in ~/.mplayer/config

when i try rsync -various-elaborate-arguments host:/home/adante/src/asdf /home/adante/src/asdf it says: skipping directory /home/adante/src/asdf

what's the command you're using?

brandon_, if you're playing a movie, you can just type in mplayer path/to/file and you'll only get a window, no gui controls

rsync -av –dry-run ….

try it, you'll get an error in terminal, no such command type of thing

then remove –dry-run if its output looks right

works for me

so -nogui in config

what's the command you're using?

are you saying that this returns an error? which mplayer

mplayer -nogui file

where are you getting '-nogui' from?

oh praise the lord, thanks

'mplayer file'

huh, why would mplayer pull in sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1?

no, just terminal

gentoo jsin2e gcc upgrade

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml

http://pastebin.ca/622847

I believe I have gcc 4.1.2 now

need libstdc++
erm
libstdc++-v3

terminal
should i try it from config?

what about terminal?
the command you want is 'mplayer file' - for example: mplayer ~/music/galaxy_bounce.mp3

I believe there play also…

right, and what about the gui?

what about it?
you tell me
do you want to use the gui or not?

no i do not want to

then 'mplayer foo.mp3' like I said

so, if I emerge libstdc++-v3 I should be able to avoid emerging the entire gcc 3 package?

but then the control window shows up!
i found it
it's -vm
don't know what it stands for though

virutal module?
virtual nmachine?

virtual memory

i'm not sure, but it hides the control window
very minimal
there we go
shoot, but the command doesn't work in config

adante, have you looked at unison?

that was actually my first choice, but trying to get it to work in windows, over a ssh connection, seemed to be the farthest thing from 'simple' that i could fathom
docs suggested installing cygwin and getting it to work with openssh, and which point i figured well hell, now i have cygwin i'll just use rsync

adante, right i missed that requirement :-/

bug 184575

https://bugs.gentoo.org/184575 tri, P2, All, gentoo@profvince.com-security@gentoo.org, RESOLVED, FIXED, net-irc/xchat security flaw in new scrollback/text replay feature when joining channels with a slash

as it turns out unison has a cygwin package so merhaps i'll try that next time, depending how adventurous i feel

after editing zone file, how do i activate it?

what is the keyboard shortcut to adjust volume in mplayer

/ and * on numpad is one set
wiki brandon_ multimedia keys

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys

might prove useful

does mplayer always start with 100% volume?

starts with what you last used

rndc reload

cool
this is working really well

indeed

Hey guys, I have a couple issues with my mplayer. 1) I can't get it into full screen mode (the window will maximize, but the video stays small) 2) I can't figure out how to configure loop mode for the gui

is there any standalone menu program?

check your video output options

where?

to be used with…?

in mplayer/gmplayer

check your -vo

hi

'lo sarts

I'm using the gui version. so I'm not sure where to configure it…

reisio boss i'm using a wm with no menu
lol

it's a conf file, 1min
which wm?

all i got is a terminal window and pypanel
well beryl with pypanel and urxvt

I'm having a bit of trouble setting up NXbuilder… I can't get the Setup.php part to work… I fill in the data on the page, but when I click accept, it tells me: "Cannot write dump file"

no de

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/faq.html#id2554511

hehe, there are only two times when i run out of cpu-cycles… when simulating brains and installing gentoo…

instead of $active[] = $row['id']

update?

update is Updating your modules can be found at http://drupal.org/update/modules

thanks, let me try

that wasnt for you that was for me
I was trying to see what happened to PHP Input format in HEAD

it doesn't work either, i don't know it can't be such a difficult thing

well, my test server is HEAD (drupal 6) and some seems to have nicked the php services Input format type, where did that go?
(makes doing quick test stuff harder as you have to code a module rather than a snippet)
I dont have time to start knocking up modules to test wee bits

true, any checkbox is checked

because teh #default_value array is not an array of binary flags, try to loose that from your thinking. It should be an array of option key values
but my test server is borked for me to try samples right now
anyone know where the PHP input format went in HEAD?

Separate module

hmm, then that needs adding to http://drupal.org/update/modules as it doesnt seem to mention that going
actually, no, doesnt need to be there
but a few will be shocked after upgrade

this should work http://pastebin.com/m7e9fb581
now try to port it to your code

Arancaytar, any idea of the module name?

ping

Hi

Zlender_, thats what my pastebin did using his own keys, oh well, cant test it

oh yeah Zlender_ your example works very good
i am going to try to start to work from this point

m1n1, then, you should see its the key values you need, right
?

yeah

pong

array(),"

if i remove it, what ajk^ told me at first would work -_-!

lol, oh well got there in the end, thats the important thing

haha, yeah, thanks a lot for you two

pm?

sure

whoops
block admin in HEAD is somewhat borked

http://drupal.org/user/163778

thx

this guy…
…. i banned another acc of him

oh yeah, pointed that out a while back
chx, moving the block admin functions into the .inc file seems to have screwed fAPI where it was expecting these "common" form functions to exist?
bchx, moving the block admin functions into the .inc file seems to have screwed fAPI where it was expecting these "common" form functions to exist?/b
actually, me neither, let me look at it more
chx, here's what I get when trying to list blocks:-
call_user_func_array() [function.call-user-func-array]: First argument is expected to be a valid callback, 'block_admin_display' was given in /usr/home/ajk/WS/DRUPAL/DRUPAL-6/drupal/includes/form.inc on line 251.
seems the block admin inc file isn't loaded
hmm

that would be the problem then

just trying to see why menu isn't loading it, it appears it should be

'cos you forgot to rebuild you mrnue

need to rebuild menu after a fresh install?
hmm, forget that, it's not a fresh install, it's a cvs up

bingo.
when developing core
it's advisable to have a menu_rebuild right before the menu_exec call in index.php

thx, pretty useful piece of advice
now all I need to do is figure out which contrib module was the benefit of core throwing the PHP Input format away
bnow all I need to do is figure out which contrib module was the benefit of core throwing the PHP Input format away/b

gentoo has far nicer support

whoa - don't know what I did. I was able to get it to fullscreen by selecting gl2, but then my entire X crashed on me

nicer compared to what?

fullscreen video and X sometimes do that

so I should be using fullscreen at all?
*shouldn't

no no
my point in saying that was to set your mind at ease
that is a common bug
not like super common
but invariably anyone using fu….
fullscreen mplayer and X will occasionally run into it
BAH

damn! did it again in double size
I think you were about to tell me something and I got dropped…

but invariably anyone using fu….
fullscreen mplayer and X will occasionally run into it
BAH

yeah
my point in saying that was to set your mind at ease
it's a common bug - not really common, but invariably using mplayer fullscreen and X you will occasionally run into it
oh whoops :p
sarts++

so is it a bug with mplayer? Would it work fine in kplayer or any other?

it's a bug with X and fullscreen video, AFAIK

I meant mplayer only?

granted, I'm no expert :p
if you're nice to them, it won't usually happen

Ah, thanks

if you're trying to task between your desktop and fullscreen video like crazy, it might get confused and freeze

nice to who?

to get kdm to load on boot, would I just rc-update add kdm default
?

mplayer and X

it can be safer to start a video playing in a window, and just hit 'f' if you want it fullscreen

yep

no

oh
:p

/etc/conf.d/xdm
you only add xdm to your runlevels
xdm is not just a DM, but also X's DM usage backend

right… that was it…

You have to edit /etc/conf.d/xdm at the bottom and make DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"

what is afaik

then add xdm to default

ty fiveflat

as far as I know

bbl

thanks for the help! I'm out…

folks!
Do I need a world rebuild after upgrading to glibc 2.6?

85 done, 30 to go…
4 * sarts is watching his emerge xorg-x11 passing
^

http://wklej.org/id/fa4510d6ae
Huh.
Next problem :/

? gcc upgrading

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
a href="http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml"http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml/a

Alright and just one more thing. I would like ndiswrapper module loaded auto on boot, would I just add: ndiswrapper to : /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ?

really shouldn't be running ~testing if you can't answer that question yourself

I have a problem with dev-perl/TermReadKey-2.30 leaves east error to me GCC-config error: Could not run/locate i486-PC-linux-gnu-GCC that I can do?

reisio, just wanted to make sure that it was required before actually doing it
was hoping this time it would be painless

?

WaR^DoG: mmm, paste your /etc/make.conf and the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo somewhere
WaR^DoG: rafb.net/paste

ok

hello guys, yesterday I left my computer working (emerging gnome) then when I return I see it turned off… (I have a laptop) can someone tell me why it closing itself all the time?

_nightw0lf^: having temperature problems?

modern hardware turns itself off if it's overheated, but it could be something else

the make.conf
http://rafb.net/p/vUOMyX51.html
a href="http://rafb.net/p/vUOMyX51.html"http://rafb.net/p/vUOMyX51.html/a

sarts, well I hope not.. how can I check it?

hmm

!google hardware sensors site:gentoo-wiki.com

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Sensors

after installing, and rebooting what is the default user that is assigned?

syslog?

clear

root
:p

i can't chnage my passwd.. ger

sarts, when I touch my computer from behind I feel warm tho (I know it sounds gay )

and the cpuinfo http://rafb.net/p/R1xTWh50.html

ask a question and change your nick, nice

_nightw0lf^: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THR0/temperature

did you use the installer or follow the handbook?

you might want to do a modprobe thermal'
;-)

92 C

http://wklej.org/id/05cd40e768
Can You see this X log?

_nightw0lf^: that would be bad

handbook, an i'm using a new client with different interface so my nick changes

what is the most common or best music player now a days sense xmms is old

the handbook explains how to setup an initial user

afaik, they don't make consumer-cpu's that are designed to become that hot.

mplayer, since forever

i just need root access..

audacious is a maintained fork of XMMS, though, you might like it

sarts, any advice how can I make it cooler? its a laptop

There are a number of alternatives depending on what you're looking for. I prefer amarok (KDE based)

vantage, rhythmbox for t3h w1n
:}

Ok I'm trying to get my ndiswrapper module to load automatically on boot, however when I added it to modules.autoload, it didn't work

_nightw0lf^: gently screw it open and clean the dust from the fans.

Exactly what file did you add it to?

you might find there is no airflow between the fans and the cooling-block on the cpu.

- /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 AllenJB

sarts, I'm afried..

it is the build log http://rafb.net/p/VX7RCo97.html

(don't worry about breaking anything, just remember that when it does not come off you missed a screw)

sarts, there should be some fun system that connects to mobile computer and cool it no?

Check the output of "dmesg | grep ndis" to see if there was any attempt to load it at all

WaR^DoG: not sure about that one, hit up bugs.gentoo.org

there are, but if this is what i think it is, it won't wotk in this case.
do you still have warranty?

hum
ok

ok maybe it was loaded, however it was never initiailized via dhcp
iwconfig wlan0 essid xxxxxx && dhclient

_nightw0lf^: think of the following: not doing anything won't help your hardware either.

You need to configure the device in /etc/conf.d/net, create the appropriate symlink to /etc/init.d/net.lo (eg. /etc/init.d/net.wlan0) and add it to the default run level. Full details on network configuration are in the Gentoo Handbook
Also insure that you've configured whatever you use for individual network configuration (eg. wpa_supplicant) correctly - as long as that's done it should find the right network itself without being told the SSID

sarts, ok at least I know that there is a temperature problem.. is there option to see other temperatures? i.e gpu , cpu , motherboard , hdd etc..

AllenJB, I just do it manually
I dont fuss with wpa_supp
and networkmanager wouldn't compile

well

Is there a way to get *-sources packages to only keep the latest version?

all your temperature-sensors are located in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
so, you could find THR1 there aswell

I let wpa_supplicant handle mine, which IMO is the easiest way to do it. I can't really help you further. If you look at the network configuration section in the Gentoo Handbook tho, and /etc/conf.d/net.example, you should be able to set the SSID and start your DHCP client from /etc/conf.d/net

_nightw0lf^: when it happened to me, my laptop was scorching the table.

I don't believe so. You should be able to unmerge any version that isn't current by running, for example: emerge -Ca gentoo-sources-current-version-number

hey… a dutch guy.

How do you send a Kill signal to X?
I need to kill my X server because it keeps locking up after my drivers are loaded.
Ctrl+alt+del just brings you back to the problem

/etc/init.d/xdm stop ?

what's the problem?
CTRL_ALT_BACKSPACE kills X

Here is the problem… I can't get to command line

CTRL_ALT_F1

I keep doing CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and I just go back to start 1
And my ctrl+alt+F* keys take me to a black screen with no command line

try hitting enter when you're there

It is my fault… I have a horrible "hybird" laptop that has a switchable graphics card feature.

'go back to start 1' ?
what's that.

Somehow my back switched to the mobo integrated one, and it really screwed up X

exaplin this switchable graphics feature too, please

bag*
not my back, lol

your bag?
what bag

I have a switch on the front of my laptop that lets me go from a GeForce 6600go to a Intel onboard chip
For power reasons

i'm assuming both are onboard the laptop though?

lol… yeah.
One is a mini PCI-E though

hello

Crap. I guess I will need to get a live cd to get out of this problem

oh ok. so you've switched to the integrated one. can you switch it back?

It was a the stupid Ubuntu Studio OS I had on my laptop. I want to remove it and just go with OpenBSD.
orkid, Of course

guys, is there anything I need to know before I start emerging the KDE packages??

orkid, I think switching to it messed it up

Anyone know a good lightweight music player that doesnt need gnome/kde

sumigamer, make sure to do emerge -av kde
sumigamer, And find what you need and don't need.

mellis, what will that do??

no

gentooNub audacious

read the kde section of the handbook first

did you try switching back to the Nvidia using the switch on your laptop?

tdr, kk ill try it, thanks

im looking for some help with a frame buffer issue , 've read up on forums and everything first but still cant find a reason as to why my frame buffer isn't working. so if anyone has some time to discuss, or can point me in the right direction for some help, it would be appreciated.

mzbot, gentoo sumigamer kde

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml

orkid, Of course

you usually want kde-meta

gentooNub, make sure to check out the audacious-plugins package for flags. btw the mad flag fives you mp3 support

i already have the kde packages ( kdeaccesibility, kdetoys, etc.) on a cd…………

mellis, did you try CTRL_ALT_F1 on both the onboard and nvidia?
….

tdr, is there a site I can check to see what all the flags give me?

orkid, No

/usr/portage/profiles/use.*

put them in /distfile
*distfiles

Triffid_Hunter, talking about the ones that arent in there

try it on both the nvidia and the onboard setting, and see if one of them works

hi guys i dont mean to b a problem but does anyoine here have a demonoid account?

orkid, Aha! Switching to the intel one screws it up enough to where X refuses to start… that is all I need. I just need a command line to transfer off my work and get rid of damn Ubuntu Studio

like what?

anyone got a demonoid account

orkid, How is that for a lesson… break it even more in order to get what you want… lol

needing an invite to demonoid
turkiye

Triffid_Hunter, umm looking at 'arts jack musepack pulseaudio sid tta wavpack wma'
Think I know what some of them do but yeah..

not really breaking anything. why would you think so?

orkid, I know… I just needed X to not come up… and I got what I wanted.

anyone here got a demonoid account

topic please

SORRY

orkid, I don't need XOrg to back stuff up. Doing that sort of work is hindered by a GUI.

for U in arts jack musepack pulseaudio sid tta wavpack wma; do egrep -h \\b$U\\b /usr/portage/profiles/use.*; done

eyyub93@hotmail.com

Hey, does anyone know what directory I should install flash in for the Opera browser?

yes. but you can get a command prompt faster but flipping a switch and rebooting to see if it works

the ebuild puts it in /opt somewhere

you can also try 'interactive' boot. hit I when you see it on boot (there are a few lines about Gentoo copyright, and one that prompts you to press I for interactive startup. Then you can start what you want, and not start xdm

orkid, Really though. I tried everything to exit out of the thing that was causing me problems….

That's exactly where it was when I #whereis opera but I wasn't completely sure which of its subdirectories would be the right one to direct flash into.

orkid, I know… this is a laptop with Ubuntu on it. I want to get rid of that junk and get a better operating system. (OpenBSD)

Triffid_Hunter, thansk

equery b libflashplayer.so

just so you know, openBSD will give you no DRI, ie no nvidia binary driver

orkid, I am not a newbie dammit… I know

will do…checking

please. reboot and try CTLR_ALT_F1 with both vid cards, or reboot and go into interactive startup, and do NOT start xdm.

orkid, I am already in command line, as I have said! I have solved the problem.

ok. how did you solve it?

orkid, Using the Intel card. I forgot what it had originally done… it would prompt me with the ncurses X debug screen, and all I needed to do was hit "no"

Thanks man for the record its #/opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins

now, if you want OpenBSD you're welcome at #openbsd. Just know that people there don't take well to newbie questions, and will very often refer you to the FAQ and other resources on www.openbsd.org. ok, good to hear you go that sorted out.

Now I can setup NFS and start clearing off it's data so that I can put a much nicer operating system. And don't worry, who needs 3d Acceleration on a computer you will just be working on…

However, the Flash installer I downloaded from adobe says it doesn't support Opera.

so. i just installed gentoo. and my friends here who are like "omg gentoo is teh amazing" are distracted. can someone tell me how to download a masked package? i know i am suppose to add something to … package.keywords file?

which package?

pidgin

/etc/portage/package.keywords

man portage for more info
emerge -atv pidgin

sweet, thanks man

np homie #12

you have weird friends
but we're all weird here

i had ubuntu on here before but some friends convinced me to try out gentoo. it is pretty hardcore.

reisio" Corp, Inc is not weird
Debian, Gentoo, and Slackware are the only distros worth using
all the rest are derivatives, or are crap (using RPM falls into this category)

makes sense. i will say even though i really like ubuntu (waits to be slapped) it has made me really lazy.

no, what you like is GNOME and Debian :p
and possibly brown themes and nipples

hahahaha
i do like gnome a lot
the gentoo wiki is pretty helpful
heh

only a little

no offence, but compiling gentoo packages is a pain in the ass, and ofte not worth the hassle, especially for a desktop system

tdr, hey is there a ogm plugin for audacious?

hi, anyone running baselayout-2 alpha 4? I noticed something odd with depend net and ifplugd…
If I set RC_STRICT_DEPEND="no", then net.lo should be sufficient for 'provide net', right?

I've just encountered a rather strange problem… I swapped monitors (and changed horizsync & verticalthingy variables in xorg.conf), and now whenever I attempt to login, the screen blanks and brings me back to my kdm

anything interesting in the Xorg.log?

open acpi failed?
ahh

client 2 rejected from local host

everything starting with (EE) is bad…

….with uid 1000, my user
there's no e..
*(EE)
what is that console mouse thing…. wpm?

gpm

console mouse driver?

well, after this emerge sync, I can install that and put the line here
ahh, interesting

/exec -o

should i use -arts if i'm going to try to install KDE or will i be left with absolutely no sound if i do that?

no.
no kde sounds maybe, like those little sounds.
but i use kde without arts. and i use audacious for mp3/etc.
they use alsa, not arts.
in my system.

do i want the little sounds

I might just investigate this a little bit… when I kill kdm, and just try startx I get a (WW) message from the nvidia driver about no matching device section, I'll check that section

imho, arts is evil and must die

no. it's not worth it . arts sucks

Yes i've heard such things… but little sounds!
(apparently gentoo-wiki says to just enable arts on kdelibs and arts and knotify should work properly)

dunno, but if you enable me on kdelibs, i doubt it.

if I have SLI enabled, I shouldn't need a seperate device section for each graphics card, should I?
(in xorg.conf)

kakalto, aren't the outputs on the 2nd card disabled when SLI is enabled?

that's what I thought
as my primary device, and upon starting X, it shows the nvidia logo, then crashes back to the terminal with a warning about the absence of a device section for device
as my primary device, it complains and tells me to use

is there a way to tell the ipw3495 driver to use net.eth1, not net.eth0?

So.. MY mouses 6th and 7th buttons are sending out 2 commands.. any ideas on how to stop this?

wiki gentooNub howto mouse nav

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons

reisio, already done that
thats what got the to send the 2nd msg
s/the/them

Hey.. native english speakers.. is `offer' or `bidding' the correct word in business context?

then undo it
depends on the context :p

hannesd, `offer` probably but i need context

reisio, well I want them to use the 2nd button

i have moved my gentoo installation to another hard drive, which now has 4 partitions, the boot, swap, root, and an extended partition. how do i start using the extended partition? do i need to mount it each time i start up my system?

yes. put there are logical partitions in your extended partition i hope.
you should try to mount the extended partition itself

not?

If a customer asks what the realization of project would cost, what is it what you give him, a offer or a bidding?

'estimate'

a bid

thanks.

if many people are giving estimates publically, it's a bid
estimate or 'quote' (price quote)

ok thanks.

i thought it was usually private.
not public. the bidding.

no, my extended partition is not being used by anything right now. I'm currently using the 3 partitions while on linux, but the extended part is like 80% of the drive, just sitting there collecting dust and i'm running out of room on my linux /root partition, which is why i moved to a bigger HDD in the first place.

if it is binding, it is an offer (not an estimate or quote); on the other hand, estimates or quotes may be either binding or non-binding.
s/not an estimate or quote//
….but offers are necessarily binding.

dude. BID not BIND

ok, so I think offer is the word. thanks.

add the extened to fstab and mount it to /home

an estimate is binding if you cannot take it back. I do mean "bind", not "bid".

ah, interseting. that's what i was looking for. I'll try it out. Thanks
bah, interseting. that's what i was looking for. I'll try it out. Thanks/b

you can take back a bid?
that's odd

you can take back a nonbinding estimate.

ugh, ok folks, topic, *ahem*

a bid can sometimes be retracted, but that's dependent on the circumstances.

hello

'lo woodstock

can someone tell me why my glibc upgrade failed?
http://pastebin.ca/622939

Hello everyone
Does someone know how to make OpenOffice (bin version) take dead keys into account?

replace mtune= with march= in make.conf

"special character" each time I need to insert an accentuated character other than the ones already present on an azerty keyboard…

it's a really weird bug

whoa o_O
thanks

It _does_ see all characters though, it simply won't acknowledge dead keys

you look at the flags from emerge -Opv openoffice-bin ?

linguas_fr is activated
All menus are in French and whatnot, all locale settings are correct
But the dead keys are not there

weird

All other apps have no problem with that

I'd ask #openoffice.org

will do, I didn't know there was such a channel in fact :p

mmmhmmm, complete with ridiculous inclusion of TLD

Maybe it has to do with X configuration, I really can't tell

Hi there
Does anyone use vmware workstation here?

I do - not very often, but I do

I saw that vmware workstation 6 can use hardware assisted paravirtualization such as intel's VT

me too, I'm learning SElinux within a vmware VM

but it require VMI 3.0 in kernel [or something else..]
any hint about this? I didn't see any option like VMI in gentoo-sources

Oh
I use version 5.x, I cannot help, sorry

don't worry.. anyway I am testing mm-sources, because google said it has a bit of VMI… we'll see, I'm reconfiguring this kernel after a huge panic LOL

how cool is vmware, i use it to run gentoo and windows development systems inside my gentoo desktop

I _think_ they're talking about the virtualization interface that was included in 2.6.21

let me see..

xen and virtualbox are quite nice too … vmware isn't open enough

yeah i might switch one day

http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=696400#696400

xen sounds great for servers .. live migration for free sounds impressive

good to hear vmware was quite tricky to keep running for me

i have a mantra when i start, i recompile the vmware kernel modules every boot .. just ’cause it was easier to write a shellscript to do that than figure out wtf is going on with vmware .. being closed source and all, it is broken and i cant fix it

exactly my experience too

is xen opensourced?

usually deleting /etc/vmware/.not_configured fixes it
yes, but the cool managment tools aren't

maybe you warezed the same copy i did

xen is the one who takes profit of kernel virtualization kvm or this is what i've read

nono, I has correct key
no, those two are mostly independent afaict

oh me too! i forgot i paid

ermm … ja … let's not continue that discussion

GPL-2 license, fwiw

thanks… I'll reboot now for testing mm-sources.
see ya

anyone know a good stand alone menu program?

what do you mean?

kicker?

i mean if your using a wm doesn't have its own menu's

just use a basic wm with menus, i recommend fluxbox for simplicity, but others may differ…

on a someone related note, is it very sensible to try SElinux under a VM?
*somewhat

anyone know why libXtst wants to be downgraded? I can't find any relevant bugs

heya, im a gentoo newb a need a little help
after updating portage it said thta two files in etc need updating…can someone please tell me how do i do that?

Hi again. a huge panic (reverted to gentoo-sources)

man portage, it explains a 'find' command that will give you the answer

no reason why you can't, but SELinux is more hassle than it's worth imho

Use a config file management tool - I recommend dispatch-conf, but there's also etc-update and a number of third party tools

etc-update

i ran find /etc -iname '._cfg????_*' and it does list two files….but one of them is an exmple..is that possible?

wiki Slycer dispatch-conf

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_dispatch-conf

wiki Slycer etc-update

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_etc-update

good for testing / learning

See those 2 pages for information on the tools

wow lots of info :O just tell me this then, is it posssible that the system thinks one of those two files it reproted need updating is an example file
it says i ned to update a disaptch thing and a make.comf.example

so it wouldn't greatly affect the security function

yes, they don't keep a list of example files to blindly update

no it would not

make.conf.example is an example file. I'd reocmmend updating it because it's a useful reference

within the vm no, but since the outside machine isn't as safe it's a bit silly
but for learning to use it it's very convenient

hmm, might try that myself then, just to say how painful SElinux is

dispatch-conf atleast will remember files contents after the first time you've update them, and if you tell it to in /etc/dispatch-conf.conf, will automatically update unmodified files

the tools tend to be a bit cryptic

very, good luck

looks to be odd syntax more than anything else

is something that's like a chain and ball attached to your nuts cryptic?

great thanks guys

heh

and when updating etc files i should "auto merge all remaining files" ?

/odd/quirky syntax

another question about xen, doing an emerge -p xen, it requires xen-sources, but do I have to change my current kernel?

I have a different perspective there
yes

personally I got fed up of having to log in twice to make changes to the system, and sel randomly killing off processes
heh, I take it I don't wanna know

question - suppose i switch out my CPU to a differnt one so i have to change my make.conf (so my CPU goes from say prescott to dual core). do i have to rebuild all my packages?

you don't have to

that's the price of paranoia

well if it is Core (not 2) Duo, you might have to use cflags as prescott anyway

ah

yeah, unfortunately I consider uptime of daemons a security issue too :/

is it a good idea to recompile everything or does it not matter at all?

just using PIE and SSP on a desktop system caused some random process killing, software is insanely insecure

does anyone know how I can clean up the "open with" dialog in gnome?some wine installs have really cluttered the list

ha, really? under "routine" activity?

I had less problems with PIE/SSP actually, with exception of bind, but that is a monostrsity anyway :/

flash gets killed with prejudice on PaX-enabled systems
it's getting better, I gave up when gcc was uncompilable

Recompile things for the USE flags (and dependency handling), not CFLAGS. If you're mucking around with CFLAGS for performance reasons (as opposed to ease-of-debugging or such), you're probably not using your time optimally.

not surprising given the latest vulnerability found

okay
thanks

hehe … understand now why I demand open?

yeah, I kinda got off hardened too when it's glibc got left in the stonage and got too old for iproute2 to compile

hmmm is it possible the mesa doesnt actually use fPIC?
prelinking complains about on-PIC shared library /usr//lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so.1
non-PIC

and oddly enough, nobody has masked the effected iproute2 package in hardened (still), or tried to resolve the problem, I got tired of trying to bring it to people's attention
band oddly enough, nobody has masked the effected iproute2 package in hardened (still), or tried to resolve the problem, I got tired of trying to bring it to people's attention/b

gotta do it yourself, eh?

That's nearly impossible as it works on other arches than x86.

is a person doesnt really know what he needs to pick to add to the USE variable… what to do?

gentoo Slycer use index

http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml

rej, hmm sounds sane but it didnt always show that behaviour?
at least at some time in the past it used -fPIC
or had to

mzbot, teach Slycer desktop profile

yeah im reading the same thing in use.desc…but still this is my first time in linux

You'll want to use the 2007.0/desktop subprofile, not 2007.0 itself, as the later is extremely minimalist USE flag wise. No jpeg support is a common symptom. Use 'eselect' to change profiles. You should do an emerge -DuN world at some point after this. ('mzbot: faq eselect profile' for more.)

i dont know what i need

It certainly still did last time I compiled mesa on parisc…

hmm ya i dont mind it that much, just makes prelink so verbose

The only thing I can think of is that you have -fPIC in CFLAGS and it gets stripped…

have a look at that list and the descriptions, if you feel like it's something you might be in contact with on your instaltion, put it in the use flags, for example: if it's a desktop and you'll be watching media files then it's a good idea to add support for different codecs, or if you have a nvidia graphics card then the nvidia use flag is a good idea to include

most home users will want to use the desktop profile, and use -USEflag in /etc/packages.use on a per package basis

does the desktop profile contacin all the things i nned to do everyday stuff?

for grub, do I need that chainloader +1? http://pastebin.com/m1d71e6e5

hello a question that package has glib-config?

WaR^DoG: dev-libs/glib most likely…
WaR^DoG: To be sure, dev-libs/glib does provide glib-config…

see the make.defaults in the appropriate directory within /usr/portage/profiles

are you series with that packages.use proposition? i always had the impression use-flags should by principle rather be set in make.conf than in package.use
serious

friendly12345 is this the correct command ? "ln -snf /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop /etc/make.profile

mzbot, gentoo Slycer upgrading

Has anyone got a hp 5 button mouse working right?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

have installed dev-libs/glib-2.12.11 but I do not have glib-config

I actually don't use the desktop profile myself, have a whole heap of flags in make.conf and a relatively short listing in packages.use

depends on the use flags, I usually set global ones (meaning those which are listed as global in use.desc) in make.conf and local ones in package.use

WaR^DoG: Re-emerge it, then? I have the same version and /usr/bin/glib-config *is* present…

ok

WaR^DoG: As well as the necessary pkgconfig (.pc) files.

it's really a question of which will give the least entries, plus save you time when emerging future packages

ok, that's the way i do it too. still, how would i change my profile?

use eselect

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

welle, there it's conflicting aims. in package.use it will save compile-time, in make.conf you have it all set for each package ^^

you mean for all packages in make.conf

exactly

you can also add -USEflags everywhere –minus sign)

i re-emerge but i dont have glib-config
$ pkg-config glib
glib-config: command not found
that necessary archives of pkgconfig? rej ?
i have glib 2.0.pc gmodule no export gmodules xport gobject gthread

WaR^DoG: Which version of dev-util/pkgconfig do you have?

i'm trying to delete a folder, but don't know what's using it
is there a way to find out

0.21 rej
0.21-r1

ah

friendly12345 im going through that list of use cariables now…i'm im learning to do it im gonna do it from scratch..but
thats a lot of variables..do gentoo users go through this procedure everytime they format?

well, this i use regularly, if some package bitches around with some particular use-flag ^^

"everytime they format"? This isn't Windows; a properly maintained Gentoo system doesn't require periodic reinstalls. Also, once we have a set of USE variables, that list is readily reusable across systems.

what i can do? rej ?

WaR^DoG: What does `emerge -vp –nodeps dev-libs/glib` return?

ok then :p

ok

for my workplace, for instance, we have one prototypical make.conf for our desktops, one for our IT servers, and one for our customer servers; they're established once, and used for all of our (quickstart-based, scripted) installs.

i check .
[ebuild R ] dev-libs/glib-2.12.11 USE="-debug -doc -hardened" 0 kB

cool

weeee

how do I display the full running process without having the list truncated? I do a "ps auxfw|less" but I still do not get the full command.

hello

WaR^DoG: I can't think of an explanation, actually. It's just silly that glib-config wouldn't get installed.

me too.

having a problem.. i have a realtek 8139 nic in a gentoo box that i'm setting up

hi
what package would i need if i wanted an analog clock for my desktop?

i installed the 8139too and the 8139cp drivers as modules, modprobe'd them but it still says that eth0 does not exist

hey i'm recompiling a kernel and for some reason this time around entfilter is marked as experimental and there is no other firewalling type option visible?

Are you using GNOME? KDE? Something else?

You only need the 8139too, I think.

netfilter, even. does that mean i can leave it out + still use ipchains?

sorry, gnome

installing gentoo on that centos box now

rej, that's what i thought, and i used that first, but since that didn't work, i tried the other one too

look into gDesklets.

hello, can you tell me how much swap is recommended for home use? i used to assign double than ram but it is almost all the time empty reaching 80-100mb when using emerge

Does lspci find the NIC?

what i can do? rej ?

1-2 gigs should be enough

yes

WaR^DoG: Post your `emerge –info`

ok

i would reallyyyy make use of that 2 gigs =( Ketarel

you could probably get away with 512 megs if you want

wrt figuring out why kernel options aren't available, the Kconfig files are your friends.

i wouldn't go lower than 512 though

ok, Ketarel, thanks, i will try that number!

Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

http://rafb.net/p/ybklqA16.html

err, cant see + no slocate installed but thanks, i'll check it out later

you have a kernel source tree?

yeah i'm in menuconfig atm

"eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xc400, `mac address here`, IRQ 10"

there's a Kbuild but no Kconfig

just use find & grep within that tree. it's the same info that menuconfig &c. use, but with the dependency logic being explicit.

Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'"

guys, in cron, is this once a day? * * */1 * * …. ?

where would I extract the desklets I download?

because i've got 45,000 emails from cron with it executing every second…

ahh find + grep is too oldschool even for my slackware 3.0-ing self
i'd forgotten

00 00 * * * is once a day at 12 AM

I don't remember — it's been ages since I cared about eye candy enough to play with them.

find . -name Kconfig .. LOTS .. one per dir, thanks

what about the one i showed you? what does that do ?

In menuconfig you can press '/' and search for the module you're after (or another keyword) - this will usually then show you the pre-requisite options for that module

could be the same thing, if it works
or look into @daily

cool, didn't know that! thanks

Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D'"
oops

heh — I didn't know about that either; nifty.

?

hi all
I emerged mod_recurity but apache log error log reports "[error] SecServerSignature: original signature too short. Please set ServerTokens to Full."

bah, help… damn cron filled my root's email with over 45,000 emails.. is there a quick way to delete them all? pine is getting on my nerves

if your mail system delivers them to your home dir … rm ~/.maildir (or whatever the mail directory is set to)
rm -Rf or whatever, easy to test where they are via 'du -h -s ~/.maildir' (summary of disk usage for that dir)

thanks, but i don't see a .maildir in my root folder

could be called .mail or Mail or something

so, apparently it started the nic and called it eth2
is there a way to change it to eth0 or eth1?

nothing mail related in there

otherwise you can probably find it by doing 'locate mail |grep root' (if you have 'emerge slocate'-d)

hi… how do I save my private gpg key to a file? I've read many howtos and they all explain how to export a public key, but then where do I get my private key from?

thanks, it's in /var/spool/mail/root

they're created together. usually one is id_rsa, the other is id_rsa.pub

so i just rm -rf /var/spool/mail/root ?

I'm trying to ./configure –prefix=`kde-config –prefix` a kde theme but I get the error bash: kde-config: command not found. any ideas?

if it's a dir, better to clear the files in there, not the whole dir, maybe

it looks like a file to me

also maybe better to shut down your mail service, rm them, then start it again, i dunno which daemon you use / if it cares though

12 megs

orkid, the instructions I followed suggest that they are DSA/ElGamal encryptions..

ok then shutdown your mail service, remove it, and start it again. you could also just: echo ''/var/spool/mail/root to reduce it to 0 size

thanks bobnormal

no worries

nDuff do the variables in make.conf have to sorted alphabetically?

no.

sorry don't know. they should be in the directory you made them in.

that said, if you have an editor which will do that for you, it never hurts.

uhm, nano?

rm: cannot remove directory `/var/lib/openwebmail/users': Device or resource busy and lsof returns nothing

no rej?

anyone point me in the right direction in regards to switching from gnome to kde or fluxbox without shutting down the x jboss server hosting and my running apps?
i know it can be done…

ispy_, ?

basicly i want to switch from my current gnome session to a fluxbox session without closing say pidgin and all my various running x apps.

err, if it can be done, it's with a lot of difficulty

how would i install an overlay with layman that's not listed in layman's list?
a link for rtfm would be enough ^^
google didn't spit out something useful so far
mzbot teach tomboy64 layman
teach tomboy64 layman

No such faq

pfffft

you don't
you just add it manually

how many overlays would a layman lay if a laymans overlay got laid

where would i do that so it get updated automatically with the next emerge-sync?
*got
*gets?

ispy_, i doubt that can be done easily

lol

26
I thought layman had its own syncer?

uhhh … yes
but i use eix for syncing

ah, then say so

dunno how that works exactly, though ^^
just read somewhere that eix-sync * updates all overlays automagically
"eix-sync *" that is

PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage — add a line like that to make.conf
did you read it or try it?

i read it. but i never confirmed it. but now that you say it, i never conciously stumbled over an updated overlay-package …
mhmmmm

hehe

this definitely GOT to get examined

I don't think eix updates overlays, just the records it has of several popular overlays.

define "records" pls

although a patch and/or feature request for that would be nice …

you are there?

Recent versions of eix can provide information for several popular overlays, even if they're not actually installed in layman. Hang on and I'll find the GWN on it

god, I hate media trying to talk about computing/networking, IP address octets don't up 800 damit!

isn't there updating, unless you emerge a particular package, then there's in most cases a CVS update and emerge
*isn't there