Archive for October, 2007

im trying to use an old ibook hard drive for a linux installation qtparted is telling me the partition changes

yeah well there are no devices created which I can mount

LOL I had training on Linux LVM a week ago

_2intense - http://pastebin.ca/667307

pending analysis, 1 sec
which devs are you trying to mount?
I mean the dev names

they are called /dev/var/www and /dev/var/toplevel

you have to DECOMPRESS the kernel headers…..
OK, let me check

might be vgchange

_2intense - can you give me a hint how to do that?

hi
i have problem
i am installing Etch on my PC

nils don't change the vgs if you only want to mount

and he never wanted me to tell him what IDE driver my disk wnats

follow this example

it's vgchange -ay

bu today ? i do not know what to select

mount /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /var/www or what have you (use the right values from lvdisplay)
drew 1 sec mate I'm multitasking

yeah well I know that, I just didn't know how to make that device appear. But now I know.

does anybody know ?

drew you downloaded the headers with aptget didn't you?

SKOM, are you done with the install?

intense yes - apt-get install linux-headers-(version)

thanks

thanks anyways

cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686
what's in there

arch block crypto drivers fs include init ipc kernel lib Makefile mm Module.symvers net scripts security sound usr

hm, it seems that there is no way, that a client can list all exported directories of a nf-server, is this correct?

Yegods, I just looked at aptitude for the first time in I don't know. We're not seriously suggesting newbies use that? It's extemely scary.

no i'm not

Anybody here recommend Totem as a music player?

it appeared during instalation
i have WD Caviar 84AA

Spiritus55, no, not rally.

I would either 1.) not worry about it (it didn't ask me, or if it did, I don't know how it will affect you) or 2.) ask someone else.
Recommend one to me then?

or is there a way to do it?

it sounds all right, are you compiling as root?
huh you are

Spiritus55, QuodLibet

can it decode m4a's?

_2intense - yes

Spiritus55, if you have the right codec installed, everything should be able to play m4as

I apparently don't have the right codec, then.

Spiritus55, the codec does the decoding

_2intense - i am logged in via openssh, dunno if that makes any difference

and now time to build a new kernel on a system which I can only access via ssh, aka russian roulette

no it's all right, are you sure that module is not available in a debianized format? It seems like you're missing some libs somewhere

What codec would I need to decode MP3's?

Spiritus55, possibly libavcodec0d

worst case scenario: install gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad

can i install the 32bit java plugin on my amd64 system with dpkg and set it up to run with nspluginwrapper?

I tried that, and it said It wasn't there.

to make the zaptel module you have to use make linux26 instead of just make

Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad

Spiritus55, or libmpeg4ip-0: if not there install them

it's on debian-multimedia
mmm let's find the factoid ….
!debian-multimedia

from memory, debian-multimedia is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about debian-multimedia.etch.

Couldn't find package libmpeg4ip-0

!tell Spiritus55 about debian-multimedia.etch

_2intense - yeah i tried that - "make: *** No rule to make target `linux26'. Stop."

hello

i'm just unsure how to actually get the plugin binary on my box

let's recap. configure and make clean work right?

i am getting an error aclocal not found

zomg. enough

_2intense - configure works - neither make, make clean nor make linux26 work - see pastebin link i posted above for output of make clean

alright i got talked into it. i'm going to d/l testing with jigdo and try it out

what version of GCC do you have? you need 3.3 along 4.0 for the module to work

dunno, whatever apt-get gave me…

query mate, will ya
aptitude and look at the version

coldsteal, what are you doing with automake and autoconf packages?

yoi need to install (since you have aptit open.. gcc 3.3)

"gcc -v": gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)

I think we've solved the prob

so i need an older gcc…

from zaptel doc: 'make CC=gcc-3.3 linux26' if you have gcc-4.0 as default, since some modules use depreciated c extentions.
and of course install gcc 3.3

Spiritus55, http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs?highlight=%28codec%29

i have a problem i have two interface ( subnet ) 192.168.1.0 (eth0) and 192.168.2.0 (eth1) .. i have ACCEPT FORWARD between eth0 and eth1 but when i want to ping from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.2.2 it failed …
nobody have idea ?
it's a gateway

how do I get a repos' gpg key if there's no data on the website?

is ip forwarding enabled on /proc?

yes, I have Internet on both sides
yes and*

hueeee
i had tried installation again

from which machine are you trying to ping?

yo

and that problem with ide driver is here again

how do i find a file from command line

fas3r, echo "1" /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

find / -name thename

it's enable

thx

does exist some universal driver?

is there any way to reset the permissions on system files and directories quickly to their defaults?

from 192.168.2.2
to 192.168.1.2

you aren't filtering ICMP are you? :P

nop

fas3r, routing table is properly set?

it's the problem i have no firewall, i have just masquerade

check the def gw settings on 2.2

for connect to internet
and echo "1" in ip_forward

check the settings with sysctl -a | grep ipv4 or icmp

the def gw in host 2.2 should be 2.1 or whatever eth1 is

i think i solved it

Dexter_F, have you looked in the repo for a 'keyring' package?

my music keeps droping out and in how i fix it?

hmm, no. will do.

it's good i have look

have you checked the default gw on host 2.2?
traceroute?

yep it's good
and tracert stop at the gateway ..

which is 2.1 right?
check the other chains on iptables on the gw, reset the counters and see where the connections stop

yes
the gateway for 192.168.1.0 is 192.168.1.1
and for 192.168.2.0 it's 192.168.2.1

it's probably the output chain defaulting to drop

the two interface on my gateway
no i have look …

ok, followed instructions on website, said install multimedia-keyring

i'm trying to find the .jigdo file for amd64/testing but the url on the debian site just hangs

did that, now on aptitude update the multimedia repos are ignored

Dexter_F, that's odd, i found once i installed that keyring, i don't get the message about GPG key unknown, but i still get a warning about every package i install

aptitude update

i can't find the url for amd64/testing to enter into jigdo
the link on the debian jigdo page won't open so i can get the url

karsten, i did that, i still get the warnings, the one about 'unverified source' or something like that

free up the other chains on the gw as a test

Do you have keys for _all_ your package sources?

allow everything then close down one chain at a time

i have just one chain …

karsten, i don't know, i just added the debian-multimedia repo to sources.list, and installed the keyring from their repo

input output forward

and it's for masquerade other computer

can i just hover over the link and copy it?

karsten, that's not a big issue for me, but Dexter_F says when he did aptitude update he doesn't get any of the repo anymore

yep but policy are at ACCEPT ..

wanted to add a debian-multimedia mirror

fas ok now it's a bit clearer

wait, keyring from *their* repo?

so you get to the internet from the .1.x subnet and .2.x but NOT from 1.x to 2.x

Dexter_F, yes, i think it's called debian-multimedia-keyring or something like that

yeah
problem solved

how.. I mean, I can't even update with the repo
i got that, thought it came from etch itself

yes it's that

Dexter_F, no, it is in the repo, so you where able to see the packages at that point

_2intense - can i change the defalut compiler? it just doesnt seam to work

you are MASQing between subnets and you get to 1.x from 2.x with a nat address
Drew have you installed a 3.x compiler?

Dexter_F, look in aptitude search for something like libdvdcss, that is not in etch repos, so if you can see that, then you have the repo working ok

_2intense - yes i did apt-get on gcc-3.3 and it's dependancies

make CC=gcc-3.3 linux26

well, on aptitude upgrade nothing happens, 0 Byte. thought a few libs were at least substituted. il check something…

Well, boys, I'm off to church. Bbl.

when i ping from 1.x or 2.x to 1.x or 2.x you think i use public adress ?

_2intense - yeah, it scrolls a couple of screens and then: "make: *** No rule to make target `linux26'. Stop."

sorry english and me …

try "make CC=gcc-3.3"

ah. works.
Bob knows why.

yes, I think so, I has the same problems with a network of a customer

make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686'
make[2]: Makefile: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `Makefile'. Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686'
make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2

check with tcpdump

hmm does grub start counting kernels with 0 or 1…

sorry, i guess that was too much

how do i turn iceweasel into firefox

anyway, that doesnt work either

IW is firefox only w/o the graphics

ok just i need to make NAT redirection from eth1 to eth2 and vice versa, it's that ?

TurboBee, in what way do you want to change it?

or SNAT / DNAT ?

yes, that is basically it

basically i want it to say firefox
and use firefox icon
etc

between local network you need to forward

oki thank _2intense ^^ i go to test

between LAN and inet you need to nat

Drew__, apt-get install linux-tree && cd /usr/src/ && tar -xvzf linux-2.6tab

TurboBee, you would need to get the firefox from the official site, and install manually i guess, it's not in the debian repos

ah

you're very wemlcome fas3r
mbroeker thanks for the help

TurboBee, but you should probably remove iceweasel first, i would expect them to clash

hehe

I'm trying to help everyone but I only have 1 brain… but it's fun

just use both halves of your brain symaltaneously

mbroeker - E: Couldn't find package linux-tree

er simoltaneously
er

Drew__, ok take the linux-source then: linux-tree is specific to lenny

forget it
i can't spell

I can't, the other half is currently in use by another process that I can't kill -9 without going to jail

hey heycan i use an etch package in lenny ?

hehe

but i haven't forward tables in -t nat ?

don't masq your individual subnets, masq the default gw

hum ..

Drew__, which version? 2.6.x.y? what is x what is y

otherwise you would have to do some prerouting checks and the likes

Hey, can I use etch packages in lenny?
Like, just one set of packages. (OpenVZ Set)

mbroeker - i just downloaded linux-source-2.6.18

Drew__, ok. and uname -r says something like 2.6.18

linuxtk11 and UptimeFactor-Jus you probably can, i have, but sometimes i've had dependency nightmares with mixing packages like that

if your uname -a reports 2.6.18-something you're ok

uname -r: 2.6.18-5-686

oops sorry mbroeker he's all yours

Drew__, ok thats looks fine

sorry i don't understand .. i go to google .. I don't want to abuse

Like, its OpenvZ (just needs its kernel) thats the only dependency, do yout hink I'd have much of a prob?

Drew__, now cd /usr/src/ and untar the fedora linux source tar.bz2

use normal forwards, not masq, between your two subnets and only masquerade your default gw towards the internet

ln -s linux-source-2.6.18 linux

UptimeFactor-Jus, i don't know what OpenVZ is, but i guess the only way to find out is to try

Drew__, say when you are done and ready for the next step…

stdin: not in gzip format ??

Drew__, tar -xvjf

if it's a bz2 is -xvbf mate

i'll have to write myself a cheatsheet for that sometime

-b has nothing to do with bzip2

Drew__, all done?

I beg your pardon?

@link

if it's a bz2 is -xvbf mate

the -b option to tar has nothing at all to do with bzip2

ok all done

hi everybody

Drew__, and you have made the symlink ?

yes

you're right, I meant j LOL

Drew__, if so, cd linux and make menuconfig

heh

if that works, you are fine

somebody have a socks install on his debian ?

it's midnight in my timezone SerajewelKS, bear w/me LOL

i get a menu

!tell greenlynx about poll

in blue, Drew__ `?

jep

yes, it works

ok sorry
i don't know it

does tor count as socks? :P

Drew__, try a fresh "zcat /proc/config.gz

that's ok, just ask your question

Drew__, does it work ?

well my tor won't work

you might also try #debian-fr if you speak french

i can't open the port

_2intense does it provide a socks interface? I think it does

mbroeker - no

excuse for my english i'm french ^^

Yes kevin, tor does

ok Drew__ look in /boot/config*

this ? http://pastebin.com/m612cc1f1

Drew__, is there a config-2.6.18-something?

SerajewelKS there nobody on debian-fr ^^

yes

you're right, as you can see yourself you're MASQing everything FROM .1.x OR 2.x, no matter the destination

i confirm what greenlynx say :p

cp /boot/config-2.6.18-xyz /usr/src/linux/.config

hello, I sometimes have lags when I start applications (e.g. terminal) with gnome , how can I diagnose what the problem is ?

ok thank i come back i go to test

lol thx fas3r ^^

done

de rien :p

Drew__, cd /usr/src/linux/ && make modules_prepare

tiens que utilizer dedicated ip forwarding entre .2.x and 1.x et nat pour l'internet

Drew__, after that step, you will be able to build your kernel module outside the tree

^^

does someone know a webbased user management except webmin ? something php based ?

hello folks.. if i got a x86_64 processor arch, should i be downloading the AMD64 version of debian?

good _2intense ..

depends.

*** No rule to make target `modules_prepare'. Stop.

depends on what?

i think it's same for me ..

I've been to canada LOL

lol oki ^^

what will you use the system for and how many ram you have.

if somebody know a good proxy software it's ok for me

err how much
what do you want to proxy?

squid?

squid
:p

not just a http one

Drew__, make prepare then?

it is not a problem to run 32 bit applications on 64 bit systems as i understand it, in chmod'ed env

i want to tunnel all my network

squid does have plugins for other protocols

2GB ram btw

Drew__, anyway, try to build your kernel module right now outside this tree

*** No rule to make target `include/config/auto.conf', needed by `include/config/kernel.release'. Stop.

for a tunnel you should use openssh

tunnel whats that

yeah well it's possible but why would you want 64 bit if you don't have applications benefiting from it.
it is still a large bit of hassle to deal with the chmoded stuff

sorry

Drew__, ok cd /usr/src/linux && make oldconfig

aren't most(tm) applications ported to 64 bit yet?

i don't know the english word

mbroeker - that worked

ok try to compile your kernel module

tunneling ??

yes, most… if you don't use proprietary software you might as well use 64 bit

64 bit in user space is useless, we sparc folks avoid it since linux was ported LOL

Drew__, if it works, you are fine

but it doesn't help either so stick with 32 bit if you have less than 3GB RAM… I even use PAE on this system to avoid 64 bit hassle

well, only prop. software i use will be the nvidia drivers (sorry, but the open drivers just aren't good enough.. )

Drew__, if not, then you need to build and install this kernel from source and reboot with this new kernel

not flash, acrobat reader or stuff like that?

if you want nvidia drivers stick to a 32bit userspace

well I think there are 64 bit drivers now but I don't know

not really.. well i guess the occasional flash vid will appear on my browser..

google earth is not in any deb repos, right?

there's no real advantage to 64bit nowadays (in user space, in kernel space there actually is)

mbroeker, ok ill try that, thanks for the help

i will just follow your advice and stick to 32bit

no 64 bit flash plugin available I think…

Dexter_F, i think an installer is in the non-free, same as flash, but last time i tried, it was broken, so i installed manually

just seems a shame to get a 64 bit cpu and not being able to fully utilize it

non-free…. hmm.. forgot that… need to touch up sources.list some more

oh well, it's just 32 bits… you can still use all the cores and stuff

do you have more than 3GB?

should my etch work with ipv6 by default, or do i need to change something? i'm wondering here why test sites don't work, if it's just settings, or my ISP

okay then.. next question: will i have to reinstall my current system (i386) to cope with the hardware upgrade?
no, i will have 2GB of ram

686 no?

well depends… 2.4.20 was the first kernel which was fully stable for my system.

what do you want with 64bit dists then?

intel quad core if you must know.. yeah i686 ..

there's a -k7
erm k8

i wasn't aware that 3GB was a minimum req.

We in the Sparc camp had mixed 32/64 releases (both of linux and solaris, and apps such as oracle) for years, it didn't matter all that much
32 bits can't address 3 gb of ram, that's why it's quoted.

it isn't. but the only advantage of 64bit over 32 is that you can adress 4GB and more. you don' gain the slightest bit of speed.

i see

not true… depends on the app

example?

you don't want to go down the PAE road…

most apps aren't optimized for 64b, on every opsys

databases
i wasn't going to

i guess i will just keep my current system then.. :P saves a lot of reinstalling anyways. .

we're talking enterprise grade dbs, not your amateur site with mysql here anyway

I sense a flamewar

nah we're all friends

still the same premise

well, I see how a db profits from directly adressing 4GB+, but that's because of the address space, which still comes down to: if you want 4gig+ go 64.

I had a 333-Mhz 64 bit cpu

that wasn't what i meant

well to take php mysql web hosting as example, there is PAE support in it but it isn't stable or enabled…

ok, how else?

Agreed completely, but do you really need 4gb dbs these days other than in data centres?

and I don't know of other means to access more than ~3GB in a single process

just my point

IIRC PAE also allows up to 64GB

yeah but it sucks.

PAE is *ugly*

the amount of data moved per op

physical address extension sucks
oops sorry I was preceded LOL

and most apps don't support pae

oh well fella, thanks for the chat, I am off to bed..

make them almost all apps

the… you can't cram 2×32 into 64 bit ops. that's not how it works.

you're still missing it ..

from a coding standpoint PAE is really really ugly
and mind you I'm a shitty coder LOL
I do storage stuff for a living though

so am I. still I'd seriuosly liek to know what other point there is in 64b…

well if storage doesn't work out for you, you can still join the typo3 developer team

but first I need to tinker with the sources…

well I prefer the hybrid approach, 64b kernel (with mmap and all) and 32bit userspace (proven by decades of coding by now)

also don't know of any other point other than allocating large amounts of RAM in a single process

Unless they need ASM guys I can't help much LOL

hehe

I work for a fibre channel storage company, it's all quite machine oriented

i'm sure a google of "32 bit vs 64 bit" would show mixed results .. as i said .. depends on the app

Is the current 2.6.22 in Debian tickless? (Wondering about tickless stability/worthiness…)

ill sure look into that. but not today, local time says "way too late"

oh well abrotman, every debate in the linux hosting world is awesome, starting from torvalds vs. tanenbaum

I recently installed postfix and when it asked if I wanted to use Local Only or Internet Site I chose Local Only and I was supposed to choose Internet Site. How can I figure out what I need to change to get it back to Internet Site?

it always does .. damn silly 24hour days!

it's half past midnight in my lovely TZ

dpkg-reconfigure postfix (IIRC)

happen to know ananke from #slackware? man had I darn nerdy geek arguments with that guy

jae, cheers

ah, back then…

no, I never logged into #slackware myself, too busy chasing girls on the internet when I was young

LOL

catched any?

yes sir, as a matter of fact

MB or GB?

but of course not on IRC

hehe

girls were in p2p nets
downloading backstreet boys and shit
one day I said "sure I'll fix your computer"
and I ended up fixing all the rest LOL

after sharing some trojans with them?
(hmm well even that could be a sexual metaphor)

LOL that brand is not published overseas, it's not mirrored on non-US LOL

if I want to rework a .tif image…would gimp work best, or would scribus, or inkscape ? ideas?

bonez39, for tiff files I always used gimp and it works

scribus and inkscape are vector based IIRC

isn't tif a bitmap format?

Is there a way to launch gnome on only one screen? (I am not using the xinerama extension)

Let's not forget xara either.

corel xara. yeah baby.

It's by Corel?

it was in 1995

uhm .. one monitor? or one viewport ?

it's work but how to add internet for 1.x and 2.x ? what i need to masquerade ? what go out from eth0 (internet interface) ?

and Gnome or X itself?

hey guys, i just completely removed mplayer and mozilla-mplayer and reinstalled the totem-mplayer plugin but it still plays with mplayer, any ideas?

Xara Xtreme. It was in Debian, but I can't find it right now.

I told you that was the problem

what is "it"?

now, use destination routing instead of masquerade

mpeg, avi, wmv, etc.

masq it's only good for a single host

hello my favorite peoples in the worlds

germans also included?

sure

got it, nevermind

I hate everyone equally

in other words, use your gateway as a router rather than masqing

hehe

and bear with me, it was three years ago last time I used iptables in a prod network
I was so happy

ok..gimp then

i need to use FORWARD new time ?

LOL

FORWARD with destination option

one screen. I have one display with two screens.

… :p

uhm .. your monitor has two screens ?

smoke break

Oh, right. xaralx
!info xaralx

you'll find examples on the net, but the matter is, use forwarding between the local nets (like a local router) and upstream from the default gw towards the internet. a forward rule will do, check the howtos

(Heavyweight vector graphics, illustration and DTP Program), section non-free/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.7r1692-2 (sid), Packaged size: 4783 kB, Installed size: 11820 kB

Each screen is attached to one monitor"

It's in non-free right now, but I think they're working out some chinks so they can move it down to main.

don't even mention smoking, I quit 10 days ago for the kids LOL

by "screen" I am referring to what X calls a "screen", which is different (usually part of) a "display"

hrm .. i'd guess you'd have to monkey with your X config ..
maybe ask #xorg
i dont' think it's a gnome issue

ok thank for your help i have better understand " I will come back " after my congratulation :p
see you soon everybody

s/is different/is different from/g

I'm really honoured to help
really
that makes me happy

not certain .. :p
thank

that's probably why I've been in support for the last 10 yrs lol

see you soon :p
+++

see ya
ATH+++
LOL
if someone still remembers that

It's not an "issue", it works great for the normal use-case (shows up automagically on both screens), I am just trying to find a way to make it only start on one of them (DISPLAY :0.1) and leave the other one unmanaged.

it's an "issue" for you

is anyone here aware of a method to achieve that?
werd.

that's why i mentioned #xorg

let me understand, do you want not to initialize a separate monitor on the same vga as part of the same display config?

!savage

http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html

gotta run

no, I just want to have gnome not draw anything on one of my screens.

The etch installer seems to have the annoying feature that you cannot easily select all locales to be installed.

why would you want all locales?

I'm on my eighth computer now where I spend about two minutes quickly hitting the down and space key to get them all selected. :-/

so you want X, just not gnome?

Why not?
In case we ever get some Zimbabwian prof here, man, I'm gonna give him Debian in his language.

dpkg, savage is also if it locks up when 3d is enabled, try Option "DmaMode" "Vertex" in the Device section of xorg.conf

okay

I don't use any locale LOL

good point.

and I'm not a native Eng speaker

personally I hate localized linux

i've seen a 'select all locales' option
i don't remember where, but probably dpkg-reconfigure locales

I hate locales, another dispersion of work. learn english. i did. LOL

see also dpkg-reconfigure console-data

no, X works fine, gnome-session is spawning 2 nautilus windows (one for each screen, on the root window). I would like to find a way to tell gnome not to do this.

also most translations are crappy or just overdone…

if you've ever seen any Spanish or Italian translation you'll see why I've stuck with Eng for the last 15 years

I hate it too. But it's not up to me to decide for others what language to use.

and emigrated too LOL

yes

Linux is a great chance to learn, you might as well learn techie english as well. no prob with localized docs. but localized os's? no thanks

anyone have a link for the latest ne installer

!d-i

Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing!

the one on the debian.org site is down

is anybody familiar with OVGuide.com?
i'm trying to get the videos to play, they're imbedded into the page

I was there when one of the servers was compromised. not nice LOL

yep, all the i386 ones are down

using totem-xine

Tried using torrents?

try mozilla-mplayer

down ?

tried it, attempts to play and then stops

there is a xine mozilla plugin also

yes, as in page not found on 3 different networks

also a vlc one

i'll try that

you want the 4.0 or the testing netinst ?

I want the stable release

ftp://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386

stable is very stable, even too stable :P

thanks, that opens, which one is the ne version?

the ISO

one that says netinst

look at the site I was given, none say that

ftp://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/bt-cd/debian-40r0-i386-netinst.iso.torrent
sure?

I can't use a netinst with my connection, people in the US will laugh at me but that's the truhth :P

thanks

http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ — has them listed as the first line

yeah, i looked in there, only 6 items were listed

goodbye-windows.com
works fine

missing

lol

seriously

i can speak from experience that netinst is the way to go

There's also goodbye-microsoft.com

won't delete windows
same site btw

saves downloading 7 or so iso's

maybe in prep for r1 ?

yo

but the ISO directory is empty

oh, it looks like cdimage is down

hey

my main man dude homie bro

it links to r1, actually.

hey abrotman I look before I speak, and the torrent isnt working

oh

I second that one; netinst.

ack!

if you have windows on that box, use the link luke

so it's just a case of cdimage not being working right now

im trying to use an old ibook hard drive for a linux installation. qtparted is telling me the partition changes cannot be committed, that i should unmount the drive. it is not mounted. if i edit the partition table in fdisk and reboot then fdisk sees the changes but qtparted still sees the old weird mac partition layout. help?

bt-cd, bt-dvd, iso-dvd, iso-cd, jidgo-cd, jidgo-dvd are my choises there at the ftp abrotman

i know nothing … does dd'ing it help?

Where can I set the resolution from the gdm/Gnome greeter screen, where I enter my username/password after boot-up is done?

jetscreamer cant, imaging that server, and want the DL done before its done imaging

worth a try, just fill it with 0s?

Sorry, I meant _for_ that screen, not _from_ it.

yeah dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever

http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ has the full list of mirrors of cdimage.debian.org

but i know 'nothing' about macs

my friends, it was a pleasure talking to you, I'm gonna sleep now

i saw a mac, once

night!

for that, you'd have to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf or run !drxx (/msg dpkg drxx)

but it looks like cdimage went down while a mirror pulse was going on

stoned, no, xorg.conf only affects the resolution once I'm logged in.

http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r0-i386-netinst.iso
^^
too bad it's r0

gdm uses X which calls xorg.conf

http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/linux/mirrors/debian-cdimage/4.0_r1/i386/iso-cd/

the first resolution listed is the one used

ah .. r1 is better!

thas better, that one works, thanks

stoned, I know that's what it supposed to happen, but it just isn't happening.

hey Arrick after you get that installed and updated, will you plz tell me the value of uname -r (the default kernel)

you may be able to find a faster mirror that has R1, but it looks like things got jacked when cdimage went down; don't know what it's status is.

sure, if you remind me

it will stop when of is full?

k thanks Arrick
yeah it will stop when it can't go any further
takes a while

can you double check.. or maybe /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and look for the server command line, ServerCmd i think
I am a kde user :/

jetscreamer got 50 minutes for the image to complete

any reason to write zeros instead of random?

stoned, I don't know what you mean by "double check." The first resolution in xorg.conf is used _after_ I successfully log in, but without a doubt not before.

well for one random might take you 1 day

0 is faster

spar, if you want it secure, 0 is fine, with 4 or more passed

plus you're not trying to hide stuff from the dea

What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?

stoned, and my gdm.conf has no uncommented content besides [section] headings.

im running etch

ask #vmware

i did

the new thing for gdm.conf is it's empty

no answer
i googled also
no answer

the default's are in /usr/share/gdm/default.conf or so i think

maybe libc6-dev ?

on OVGuide the error totem gives me is There is no input plugin to handle the location of this movie

?

what are you trying to do, Smerdyakov ?

tried mplayer tried vlc
tried xine

not secure, just blank

jetscreamer, I am trying to set the resolution for the gdm log-in screen.

ah

what you are experiencing is that you have another resolution, the one you want specified in gnome (also the same in kde) which gnome/kde apply AFTER X loads with a display manager. At least this the behaviour I have noticed. to have gdm load with the same resolution, you have to specify it as the first one in xorg.conf

/usr/include/linux

I don't think I'm wrong, but I might be

i never got that one… i can get it to be set 'after' login, but gdm…
you can just take the modes out you don't want .. xorg.conf

thats what I do
I have only one mode

stoned, resolutions only appear in one place in my xorg.conf, and the one I want is first.

1600×1200 times 2 monitors

hey i'm curious, i downlioaded the latest Flash from Adobe for Linux and i can't seem to get past where it asks for the location of mozilla

i use 1280 or 1024 depending on how blind i feel

so remove the ones you don't want

stoned, doing that now.

what is the location of mozilla on Debian?

comment out the original line

etch

make a new modes line and put your desired res there

you want to enable marillat's stuff i think

ok

~/.mozilla maybe…

/usr/lib/browser/plugins/ .. drop the .so in there

wow, dondelelcaro thats still sitting at 0%

thanks

http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r0-i386-netinst.iso
^^ ?
is that any better ?
even though it's r0

well, I didn't actually try to download it

lol

nope

if you use r0 i don't care about the uname -r btw
i know that's 2.6.18-4

unknwn, maybe your config is broken. but the headers are there thrust me. check your config, install linux-headers or linux source

Didn't help. :-(

hey, the last one is working, thanks

/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)

hey man

trust and thrust. i cannot get it. what is what i mean?

you never got any pm?

yeah stoned

http://debian.cites.uiuc.edu/pub/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso .. better ?

what are you doing in debian ?
I thought you were a hardcore windows junkie

I am building a new kernel, I have a K8 64bit processor, running 32 bit Debian. Under "Processor Type and Features" in make menuconfig, should I select K8 or K7 as a processor type? ( I don't need 64 bit support, I don't want to break a fully 32 bit system)

definately, almost 400kbps

i would 'guess' k8 since it's actually a k8, but i do not know

any luck

My temptation as well, but I do not want a 64 bit kernel if it breaks 32 bit in any way. Since all k8 are 64 bit and all k7 are 32.

stoned, no, it didn't change anything.

hey stoned

hi

answer the man…

who?

Kaiten4:

stoned samba gone i alowed net bios

he didn't ask me anything

see if error gone

were you ever talking to me?

he didn't ask me anything either
i don't have a k8
you do

well is he asking about ati?

No, I don't believe I was

no I don't

no, kernel

I have a core 2

oh
nm

no I don't
ok

vore 2?

vore?
I said core dude

stoned should help my error i hope
core 2?

Vore 2 Quo

um

quid pro coreduo

what error.. try not to single me out, I'm not the fountain of all debian knowledge

uthlon

that one i posted yesterday

now thats funny lol
dropping incoming packets?

yeah

I told you I don't know
its some samba related shit

right u gave me things t try

i hear tell a 64 bit kernel works just fine with a 32bit os Kaiten4 , but once again, i do not know

samb shit gone bye bye

they wouldn't have worked anyway, because I suggested things based on a misunderstanding

nomore samba

there's funny stuff to get nvidia going though, but it does go

this is the error i get Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
dir= /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
Please enter a valid installation path.

yeh

right. My main worry was the ati driver not compiling.

!paster Drevay

put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel.

how do I re-generate availlible?

ok sorry

hi folks

yeah fglrx would probably be funny also like that

hi

no idea

I'm getting a parse error in /var/lib/dpkg/available is it safe to just rm the file and go from there?

fglrx isn't bad, unless you need composite
I do gaming in linux with it, its not bad

It's bad for me

it could be a whole hell of a lot better, but whatever
thats what I get for buying ati

it's the actually installing fglrx i would worry about

Ati mobility accleration =! decent

if you got it installed i imagine it would work fine

ati is amd now no drivers

password" one per line and you run that tool with this file as an argument and it generated the accounts… any hints?

I just want to take my laptop to a windows computer class and show off some xgl

I fact, on debian alone (other distros xgl works like a slug) Xgl+fglrx+3D is not bad
its almost as fast as anything else

this is the error i get when i try to install the flash plugin http://rafb.net/p/4baC6k66.html

xgl isn't in debian .. aiglx is

it's called newusers

I have never been able to install xgl on testing yet, how did you manage it?

i want to use the latest and not the one from marrilot because i'm having problems with that

dondelelcaro, ahh… muchas gracias!

try ~/.mozilla/plugins

though doing that is generally not such a hot idea.

k

wern't they supposed to be open sourcing ati drivers?

dondelelcaro, why?

nope, no dive :s

pffft

*dice

what are you doing? how are you installing the flash plugin?

adobe provided script as far as I can tell

ahh mr gravity … savage sucks for 3d!

W42
bah

!blame gravity

download the tar.gz flash plugin from adobe, and extract it, copy libflash something.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins and you're golden

Sucks how?

hey guys, anybody know why i do a 'ipcrm -m shmid' and it wont remove the shmid ?

OR run the flashplayer installer script in the archive

the shmid has been detached for a long time now, and it still wont remove it

../flashplayerinstaller then it asks for the directory then i enter it and it complains
ok

because you've generally got the plaintext passwords sitting around… 'course, in most computing environments where you'd use newusers, it's not like the passwords are going to be particularly secure anyway.

8192gpu mem isn't enough for 24bit 3d

don't enter a directory just hit enter afaik

and the 16bit seems to have a bug where it locks xorg
at least for me

Oh fun

does anyone know about an nfs(4) kernel bug even in the 2.6.22?

but
the fix is
!savage

http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html, or if it locks up when 3d is enabled, try Option "DmaMode" "Vertex" in the Device section of xorg.conf

check bts?

ah

duh… yeah, will do

tried that already hmm

Sublime
just copy the files to ~/.mozilla/plugins

apparenty my laptop has agp2x also, but xorg was putting it into 1x , until i used the agpspeed directive in xorg.conf

the .so file and the .xpm file

yay

hi, whats the meaning of RC1 ?

release candidate 1

Is a preemptive kernel good for a regular gnome workstation?

desktop yes

stoned, ooh thanks

desktop/workstation yes

what is a preemptive kernel?

ie:movies, firefox, quake

google/wikipedia it

ok

dondelelcaro, I am aware that the passwords are in a plaintext and that is a good thing as this file must be human readable. For sure, after using this file it is moved away the box, I keep a secured copy and the costumer keeps a copy on a CD with other sensible data like company e-mail passwords, accounts etc. and this CD is kept in a vault / safe / set in concrete

uh…… something about being able to kill oopies or something i forget
it's in the kernel docs though
err oopsieses

ok

well, the point really was that for customer stuff, you'd actually want the users to imediately change their passwords
such things shouldn't be kept at all

dondelelcaro, no sorry… in this case it is a policy thing, in general you are right

ok thanks guys later, must go home

"the boss wants it that way"

hmm, nothing in the debian bts… on 2.6.20.4 I get oops when I shut down a lot, sometimes while I work. On 2.6.22 it oops a lot
google finds some stuff from feb. 2007, but I'd assume that's fixed already, so I'm not sure

dunno man

crap, it's pretty annoying. Thanks anyways

yep
I like yngwie malmsteen

yeah, in those situatations, I generally require whoever is employing me to direct me to do that sort of thing in writing

I've noticed that debian testing boots very swiftly now, why is this?

that generally clues them in that it's not a particularly good idea.

I'm on sid, I think its even smoother

dondelelcaro, root / Administrator is "god" anyway, so there is no real point in letting the users change their own passwords to prevent anything. Sad to say but in this case the costumer wants it exactly that way (boss wants to be able to log in wherever and with whom account he wants to whatever service.

debian is just soo amazing, you know

And is there anything I need to set in my new kernel to keep it this way?

yeah, but he can always do that using the root account

he could su user anytime

dondelelcaro, _very good_ point, I almost forgot that… I wwill add that to the policy (the thing about how this is all managed and that boss wants it that way).
dondelelcaro, no, he can't he's the dumbed user you can imagine
dumbest even

yeah, figured as much… that's why I usually want them to specifically direct me

dondelelcaro, he want's to have all the power, but he is to dumb to know how to use that power
dondelelcaro, yeah… we discussed that issue hours… I just forgot to write all down and let it sign by the boss… I will do that, thanks for that hint

is there a way to find files not in packages?
not in installed packages, i mean

locate, find

!search

to find factoids containing thing. see http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt

pdo
!pdo

http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/

i mean, scan the system for files not in installed packages

Hm. This is odd. approx seems to prefer to keep its own cache instead of using /var/cache/apt/archives

oh, you want something like cruft

!info chrootkit

cool

!info rkhunter

(rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.2.9-5 (sid), Packaged size: 134 kB, Installed size: 540 kB

!info chkrootkit

(Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.47-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 250 kB, Installed size: 632 kB

why doesn't linux-image refer to the full kernel version anymore? It only say 2.6.22, does that mean that it's not any of 2.6.22.x?

+1

apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.22
there is linux-source-2.6.22 , but the images have more..-whatever
2.6.21-2-686

;-) I'm just surprised, because both testing and unstable only have 2.6.22/.21, but there's already .x of both out for a while

et al
2.6.22-1-k7 on the desktop/sid
know which is a metapackage btw
don't be confused by imitations

yeah, but 2.6.22.5 is out

you won't see the updates reflected in uname -r

why not? So how do I know what updates the debian kernel is based on then?

i really don't understand why not, but i've watched the progression of the methods the kernel image hosting maintainer has done

hmm, but how do I know now if I should try 2.6.22.5? I like the debian kernels, but I need to get rid of my nfs4 oops…

you get a base model, and the optional upgrades are applied, but it stays the same name (see i can't explain it but i know what i'm talking about :/)
just try it
don't uninstall your old one

hehe, obviously
I understand what you are saying about the version numbers, but I seriously don't understand why they do it that way - what would be the advantage?? Anyways, thanks for the info

no one here?

!find linux-image-2.6.22

Debian Package Listing of 'linux-image-2.6.22' (7): linux-image-2.6.22-1-486 ;; linux-image-2.6.22-1-686 ;; linux-image-2.6.22-1-686-bigmem ;; linux-image-2.6.22-1-amd64 ;; linux-image-2.6.22-1-k7 ;; linux-image-2.6.22-1-vserver-686 ;; linux-image-2.6.22-1-vserver-k7.

hmm

look inside linux-patch-debian-2.6.22
(as far as I can see currently it is based on 2.6.22.1

are you talking about a linux-image-2.6.22-5 or the source from kernel.org

I have linux-image-2.6.22-1 from debian installed, and I was trying to find out if 2.6.22.5 from kernel.org is newer or not

ahh
yes it is
i thought you meant it's in debian atm
yes the -5 is newer

what do you need from 2.6.22.5 (anything in particular)

..5

him say nfsv4 borked
iirc

I get a kernel oops when i shutdown, sometimes when the system is up

tainted kernel ?

nvidia, but that's it afaik

that would be a taint iirc

yeah, I know, but I need 3d

reproduce it without nvidia

what he said
i personally don't think that's why though

hmm, I haven't tried that. I'll see, it's not 100% reproducible, about 50% of times when I shut down it works fine, the others it oops
I don't see how nvidia has anything to do with nfs though

2.6.22.5 though

I can post the syslog message of the oops, just mentions nfs stuff

!tar

"tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory"

well, what else can I try?

are you using kernel mode or usermode
try the other

what do you mean?
oh, the server

how do I tar a whole directory system

the client is crashing though

I don't know of a userspace nfsv4 server

aren't there 2 diff kinds of nfs? i forget been a year
ah
is that v3 then?

there is one that is v3 and one that is v2
(not sure if the v3 one is in debian yet)

no, v4… I thought only server is in user or kernel mode, right? Or is it the client also?

i did nfs last year sometime

!info unfs3

(User-space NFSv3 Server), section net, is optional. Version: 0.9.17+dfsg-1 (sid), Packaged size: 53 kB, Installed size: 200 kB

are you closing the connections/unmounting the shares when shutting down?

guys, need some help. any pcmcia cards / brands that KNOWN to work with the kernel? (that have OSS drivers basically)

nice specificness

jetscreamer, im in the market for one. i dont really know how to be specific.

what type ? (scsi / network ?/ wireless ? / soundcard ?)

the mount is in fstab, so I'm assuming it gets umount'ed…

oh crap
sorry, i meant pcmcia wireless. :/ i apologize
id like one that worked ootb with deb, that would be awesome

madwifi supported card would probably work the best but its in non-free

h3sp4wn, so ill need to install fw? are linksys cards madwifi supported?

Depends on which
!madwifi

madwifi is, like, a driver for wireless devices with an Atheros chipset. More information can be found at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian. #madwifi. To install madwifi drivers built against Debian stock kernels, ask me about madwifi-install.

I use one of these - http://www.ubnt.com/products_src.php4
(they are quite expensive but better than anything else I ever used)

i know nothing. i seem to dimly remember someting ungood about something like that, umount them first… no idea.

!madwifi-install

i heard madwifi-install is ask me about non-free, then as root: "apt-get update ; apt-get install module-assistant ; m-a prepare ; m-a a-i madwifi". You should now have madwifi installed. Note: Atheros = ath0, NOT eth0.

but that was v3 apparently

!non-free

non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there . See #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html Also ask me about vrms

msg the bot

h3sp4wn, is that available on any canadian order sites? or only from the manufacturer's site?

i just setup madwifi on debian for the first time the other day, amazingly easy once i did it the debian way

no clue

ndiswrapper was amazingly easy/simple also :o
it was that or wep only

thanks for the help… I guess I'll try out a newer kernel and see if that helps. I don't know how to read kernel oops call traces well enough to really decide if other reports on the net are the same as mine

there are madwifi footnotes, like a certain .c file has to be included, etc, for some cards. im assuming these are all doable via patches?

try an older kernel also maybe
2.6.18-4 maybe

I'v been running 2.6.20.4 for a long time, and didn't have problems before. But I guess that's a point, I'll see. I had been out of town and updated both server (testing) and client (unstable) and then the problems started

hell, all , how to install debian etch with colinux, i followed "http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/InstallDebianEtchFromIso", i got wrong.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=435517 looks a lot like mine actually

Like this? http://adrinael.net/wrong4

….

Sorry. But you said you got wrong. :-)

so what's the best pptp server to be installing on my latest brand new debian server?

isn't there only one ?

(brand new = formatted drive, not new hardware =( )
I don't know, that's why I'm asking

apt-cache search pptp

poptop is the one and only?

i want to know how to install debian with colinux vm step by step ?

ask them
i don't even have that one

AFAIC that should be documented by colinux. Or /msg dpkg d-i

is there any document?

ask #colinux

afaic.. as far as i c… c….

erm .. one person .. must be on a different server

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=debian+install+colinux&btnG=Search

cnow? ;-)

pptpd - PoPToP Point to Point Tunneling Server — we were talking about the same one

as far as i cnn

are there any wifi pcmcia card models that dont require any 3rd party firmware? (that will basically work ootb with debian, the installer will pick it up during install etc)

poptop ?
yes

You quite done yet?

abrotman, like?

orinoco based cards

Strong second on orinoco.

karsten, abrotman, googling. are there any cards off the top of your head that use this chipste?

yeah .. old ones

look on linuxwireless.org or whatever
!wireless

for Linksys WPC11 or Netgear WG111v2.

For newer hardware, the Intel onboard chipsets work well. I've got the Intel Wireless 2200GB, uses ipw2200
!tell lastnode about ipw2200

karsten, i cant seem to find a pcmcia of ipw. i used to have it on my old thinkpad too, i loved the ipw2200

still needs firmware iirc

karsten, the ipw series requires firmware, right?

Yeah, I think it's onboard only, and yeah you need firmware, that's what dpkg just told you about.

there aren't intel pcmcia cards

onboard wifi

he asked for pcmcia

oh ok
:/

For orinoco, your best bet is to find an old PCMCIA card, usually ebay, craigslist

meh, gotta go. ill be back after school to bug you a bit more, abrotman
thanks for the help

okay

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=orinoco finds 3

thanks guys

using the debian 2.6.18-5-k7 kernel, & somewhere I read that /usr/src/linux should soft-link to linux-headers-2.6.18-5-k7. if I compile the 2.6.22 kernel, will it suffice to link /usr/src/linux to the kernel source?

you can make a linux-headers .deb also if that makes you more comfortable

~lart the canon bjc-6000 printer

cannon printer give me

come get it

were are you located

utah

hey man

has to cross border

sup. not idling in #daxal huh?

suplex

can i pm u

I take OT stuff in #daxal

what?

you want to give a private massage to suplex?

yes

hehe
hoookaaayy then

no pm. just /join #daxal instead.

heh

thanks for the help, I'll reboot everything and let you guys know later how it went

my irssi config is in cryostasis until my workstation is resurected. :-/
hence no ident to services. *sigh* and no, I don't memorize the 4823 passwords I use…

I keep it simple
I got one password for everything
its so secure you'd never guess it

it's in the freezer eh ?

crack?

nope
its password
my username is username, and password is password
nobody would ever guess that

who would want to hack an idiot? nothing worth hacking

your password is 12345?

no, its 'password'
jetscreamer:

12345 is more secure
come on now.

this is getting too dumb now
no more humor left
and why the FUCK do I smell a wet dog!?

it's raining

yup
I want to watch a movie tonight

well it's either you stink, or there's a werewolf in your place

I saw ninja turtles last night it was asesome
awe*

out of the 11000 accounts at a university i had /etc/passwd from, about 500 were 'password', so i dunno about that

im hungry

CompWizrd, do you manage the accounts?
or you actually h4xored that box

Small issue. I have linux-image-2.6.18-5-486 installed on my AMD Sempron machine with 1gig of RAM. I am not seeing the full gig, should I be using the 686 image or the k7 image? TIA

clearly they were professor accounts

abrotman, lol

use the -k7

That is what I thought, but did not see anything above athlons listed in description. Thank you

!k7

methinks k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the AMD64, X2, FX, Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips.

I appreciate the help. thank you all

that's kind of misleading .. the k7 kernel will work on those last few listed

oops, one more question, I can do a simple apt-get or aptitude install for that image, correct?

aptitude

abrotman, are you on stable or testing?

stable

aptitude install linux-image-2.6-k7
this machine i'm currently on is testing

that is what I thought, thank you all again. have a good night

abrotman, with X?

guys half my internet stopped working

yes
half?

yeah
umm
I believe it to be packet filter, stopped a lot of packets from coming in
like I can ping google

Kaiten4, half? or half of your entire network

but not aim or slashdot
let me give you an example
I'd love to give you an example but pastebin isn't loading…
ok here's some one liners

!paste

Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.

Luckily one of those worked
http://rafb.net/p/ZCF5LZ24.html
basicly I need to know how to disable packet filter, it just started doing this out of the blue.
I would "just fucking google it" but google and irc seem to be the only things working

that's not on by default

Is anyone here? did I lose all the internets?

Kaiten4, do you have iptables installed?

did you mess with iptables at all ?
maybe it's your ISP?

no sirs

could it be your ISPs dns

after a while using amule my fat partition goes read only. Why?

if you didn't mess with iptables .. ti's not your debian install doing that

I installed dhclient3
the only network related program

doesn't matter

Kaiten4, can you do a traceroute on that particular sites thats droppign

I've reseted my router and modem

dropping*

ok

try to check where does it drop those packets

hello honorables

superplex

It took a half second to leave my router.. I think I'm starting to see the problem

Kaiten4, ok start from there

here is the trace http://rafb.net/p/Nv5hqd18.html

after the router. it should jump somewhere on your ISPs backbone

mtr aol.com

looks filtered to me

clearer output
abrotman, after the routers hop is should jump over to the ISP

Hi

http://rafb.net/p/Nv5hqd18.html

aol.com is loading now
still no aim

Alright, my totem movie viewer can decode .m4a's but not rythmbox.
I have recently gotten a LOT of new decoders.
I was getting the error about something like "the GStream plug-in could not decode M4A"
But, after a lot of decoders, I now have the error "GStreamer could not find the decoder for MP3"

Kaiten4, the one you pasted is still from traceroute

gstreamer sucks

would u guys help with something?… I have the old nvidiafb module on my kernel… Im trying to install the new one, but I cant to unintall the old (even with modconf)

slashdot http://rafb.net/p/pxK0AC42.html

gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 - Fluendo mp3 decoder GStreamer plugin

hey

Thanks.
I'll check.

you don't want to use nvidiafb unless it's a really old nvidia

does look my isp took a shit

edit /etc/modules and comment it out
then reboot
if modprobe -r nvidiafb doesn't work

jetx, tnx, it didnt work

looks like an ISP problem your packet loss are on the 7th hops

Shit maybe they're on to me

jetx, is loading anyway.

you guys don't know me

Everything went smoothly on my image shift to k7, thank you all again. Have a good night

did you edit /etc/modules ?

Kaiten4, what do you mean we dont know you

what vidcard/gpu

exactly

Are you talking to me?

not really

nvidia 5200

alright.

Uhh anyways, I hate to ask, I was looking this up when my internet crapped out, what's the command to have kernel-package compile a kernel with an initrd(or whatever?)?

you don't want nvidiafb. edit /etc/modules and comment it out.

So I can compile my new kernel now and hope my internet works tomorrow

then reboot

jetx, I did that… and is loading

and another thing

jetx, even in the blacklist.

nvidiafb, or nvidia

nvidiafb

good evening mister abrotman

and nvida in modules, but doesnt work cuz there is another (first)

hi

But, they wierd thing is, is they play in totem.
Any one know if it could just be rythmbox?

apt-cache search gstreamer mp3

thanks, I'll look

(echo $password; echo $password ) | smbpasswd -s -a $user - this does work (add a $user with $password to the samba database, I have a file with those two variables seperated by colons, nearly passwd-style and I don't get it how to let this thing parse that file to add all the users in that file… any hints?

jetx, do u know how to remove from kernel? or I need to compile again (Im newbie sorry)

ohhhh
you compiled it in
recompile
use a stock kernel

exactly.. that's the problem

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41845

I understand most of kernel package, what is the flag to make an initrd? Please?

not .20 or .21
make-kpkg –initrd kernel_image

Damn, I clicked that link thinking I would read it
thank you

jetx, I miss it installing :p
jetx, my problem is removing from kernel (I think)… I guess I should re-compile the kernel right?

right
looks like you compiled it in
hang on

what does modules_image do?

In My Ubuntu 7.04 machine i am not abel to open the website http://meetings-archive.debian.net/ using firefox what could be the problem

Yeah, that didn't work.

jetx, cool man!, tnx a lot!

maybe it's just rythmbox?

ask #ubuntu
try quod libet

Anyone know of a program that is like rythmbox (links all your music to a menu)?

Comments

Lo Im trying to get htaccess files to work Ive set AllowOverdie to All in the default file and corrected the DocumentRoot

AuthenNTLM on cpan

what brand is your bot?

its a "got at" wollabot
removed text lookups added db etc

well, thanks for the information, too bad it's not useful, since mod_auth_sspi is a windows-only module, and apache2

Comments

hmm im trying to half-ass tidy up this old php4 piece of shit site that i dont really care about too much if i

is there a separate channel for the development of php itself or can stuff like that just be discussed here?
uis there a separate channel for the development of php webhosting itself or can stuff like that just be discussed here?/u

and sorry ari-_-e, i have no idea

ari-_-e: you would want to contact the mailing list for that kind of stuff

Sno, ok, thanks

ari-_-e: http://us3.php.net/mailing-lists.php check that out and go to the Internals list

okee, thanks

hmm… im trying to half-ass tidy up this old php4 piece of shit site that i dont really care about too much… if i make a Base class which has a Base-DBConnect property, that the other classes extend from… Should I also make a Base-User property (User being ab object with all
roles/permissions/user details etc) which other objects can extend from as well? or is it better to have User a seperate object?
just wondering what's more common practise
to have the User object inherited into every class, or to have every page load a seperate standalone user object for use in the page.

Sno http://discuss.pastebin.com/d3901e129 does it make any sense to have the class?

I don't see anything

ugh
http://discuss.pastebin.com/d4901e129
i have to manually type in urls because this is on a different computer… dedicated irc machine

lol
there is no real common practice with that
its basically do what you think is best

so does it really make any sense to have the class or am i doing something right?

give me a sec

'postgresql',

hey all

If that's some PEAR package, you'd have better luck in #pear

DB Error: not found

wb j2daosh

!+pear

lol

Sno ok thanks

your still here?
we have to get lives

hmm…where'd the bot go?

you are missing a few { } go find where to put them

j2daosh this is a dedicated irc machine. it's on 24/7

ok.. thanks

Sno i'm not missing any. why do you say that?

ok thanks

you are go find them

well since i already know you, what is that thing called that people put on their site to stop people from brute forcing logins? it makes you verify characters in an image

CAPTCHA

missing 3

Sno oh the tabs in front of the second bit are just because i pasted it from a different file and was too lazy to remove them
j2daosh check out http://www.recaptcha.net

know of a good tutorial on that?
lol one step ahead of me… i like that

Google probably knows of several

so you mean that $_SESSION[user_id] has {}
and you should be using "" or '' in $_SESSION[user_id]

It's not missing any {}… it would be borked if it were
oho
that might be doing it

does it make sense to have the class in there though?
i mean, technically i could just put a while in a while xD

you got a nested looping query in there
might cause some resource issues
ok restate that
it WILL cause resource issues
nested queries bad
nested looping queries worse

:P then how do you suggest that i accomplish what this does without doing that?

hrm
let me open my handy notepad++

go ahead

ok the short answer is do a while in a while
long answer is figure out another way to do this

crap, i have to install libraries and stuff

I'm trying to run a mysql thing but it won't run and I want to output the error. I'm assuming I should be using a php function to do this?

i don't know how to do taht yet

lol yea
you need a quick captcha?
http://captchas.net/

j2daosh recaptcha shouldn't require you to install libraries

its a remote system

well i signed up at the link he gave me

j2daosh you copy one file over and read their documentation

but i have to "Download the reCAPTCHA Library, extract recaptchalib.php in the directory where you your forms live."

it's really very self-explanatory and you basically require_once the recaptchalib.php
yup

but i dont know where my forms live lol.

its possible to do it in one query

j2daosh where are your forms based out of?

how do i append an array to another one in php?

do i put them in the main site directory? or am i supposed to drop taht in like the cgi-bin directory thing?

$array1[].append($array2)?

lol no
array_merge()
http://php.net/array_merge

i'm fairly certain there is a way to do so, but i never thought about it

my forms are all in the main site directory (www/files_are_here)

cool.

j2daosh so put recaptchalib.php into www

oh, ok

$result=$connection-query($query) .

i think i can manage that lol
oh… duh

What is $connection?

sno i'm wondering how i managed to write those two bits of code so poorly. the rest of my site is rather sexy and refined

its just like any other .php file i have made… god i feel dumb now

TML, that's my new mysqli(blahblabhablh) connection.

$result = mysql_query($query) or die("bA fatal php mysql web hosting error occured/b.\nbr /Query: " . $query . "br /\nError: (" . mysql_errno() . ") " . mysql_error());
its late?

php.net/mysqli-error

yea that
worry
thought you were talking about mysql
lol

Sno, what mysql command am I looking at to put that into one query?

well
its still joining technically
but you just don't request any info

oh. but that won't separate it based on category :-
it'll just make it one huge list of rows

hrm

$result=$connection-query("INSERT INTO sip (id,name,host,nat,context,mailbox,qualify,username) VALUES(NULL,'$username','dynamic',$nat,'$username','$extension',$nat,'$username'") Why is that receiving: You have an error in your sql syntax blah near
'';

the reason why this is messy code is because its difficult situation

anyone familiar with cURL here?

:/
it is possible though
mysql can do alot of things that most people don't expect it to do

My guess would be that you failed to escape one of those values

TML, what do you mean?

there should be some info on the mysql docs examples

empty variables?

If $username was the string "'foo'", for example, you would have "… VALUES(NULL, ''foo'', …"
That would be a parse error

I'll take a look and ask in #mysql. I don't see exactly how I'd manage to return the information separate enough that I could split it up into different modules, though….
It's really intended to be displayed in different tables

I know

You almost certainly can do what you need by learning how to use GROUP BY

OH RIGHT!!!
that is it
damn its 2am

i insterted the php code into my site but its not showing the captcha… is there something else i'm supposed to be doing?

I should go do sleep

$result=$connection-query("INSERT INTO sip (id,name,host,nat,context,mailbox,qualify,username) VALUES(NULL,$username,'dynamic',$nat,$username,$extension,$nat,$username"); TML, that still shows the same error.

lol

j2daosh you read the documentation?

thanks for reminding me j2daosh
I do
its how you become a great programmer

*sigh*

thanks for what?

php docs = god
mysql docs = jesus
lol

php.net/mysqli-escape-string

yeah i am reading the docs now… its talking about the recaptcha_get_html function and the other ones… but its not telling me if i should be using them. it seems like they are just explaining how it works in the code they told me to paste in my site…

j2daosh http://recaptcha.net/plugins/php
read the quickstart
i literally copy/paste my code from there every time and just add in the keys
might i get an example from you of how i might split up mysql results using GROUP BY into different tables? keeping in mind that i have 2 table styles, a thin one and a thick one that's specified in the modules table

give me a few min and I'll try to figure it out

thats exactly what i did, but it didn't show the image on the site… it fails me logining in though

oh, lol
j2daosh you put the keys in? both?

oops, nevermind
my browser was caching the site

lol

god i hate when that happens

i had to disable the squid cache on my firewall box for dev. it was sucking as well

lol
that must have been fun

Instead of running 2 queries, you'd look at each row as you were "printing" to decide whether it belongs in the table you're currently printing, or not.

HAHAHA I just realized that you had limits for each category
*sigh*
hrm

that works even if, say, the user has two tables from the same category with different limits, different order by's, etc?

one odd thing though… its showing the captcha image hosting above my html forms on the page… i put the code below those though… does php on an .html page supercede the html code?

No, if you want to change the query itself, you'll have to do a different query

Ah. That's why I did it how it is, then.
because this way the user can create a certain number of modules (up to a limit, say 6) on the page with whatever his heart desires, no?
except for maybe the limit, was thinking of capping that at either 10 or 25 rows per table

oh right now I remember
this is the classic nested query problem
this will take 2 queries

which means it has a classic nested query solution? right?

not really
the first query will build the second query

what's what's happening… no?

that or your stuck
well
never mind
I'll figure it out
lol

i know i'm a pain in the ass, but really, i'm worth it!

your worth it?

Sno, damn straight.

"you're", not "your".

too tired
3am

lol

give me a break
long day and problems with girlfriend

None of which are excuses to get sloppy with your spelling

so what's new?
lol

no but the interenet is!

rarely do i not have problems with women.

all the womenz love me

far too confusing

lol

just accept my invitation to a nice dinner and be happy with it.
lol
the problem is that they all have jobs which seem to consume their lives except for when i'm working

anyone familiar with cURL here?

every day, at the exact hours that i work)

I think KairuMaiku is right it has to be nested

Just ask your question, if someone can help, they will

its because of the limit
it it wasn't for the limiit it would work

if i were to get rid of the limit?
oh wait
nevermind
i'm not getting rid of that

yea then it would just spew them out
yea exactly

i don't need a user fetching 6,000,000 rows every time they view the index page

it would spew them out in order! but yea
lol
so you got 1 + number of modules queries on your hands
I am sure you could design the DB in a way
to do it in one query
but its too much work

is it too much work if i ask you about it in say, 12 hours?


ass

???

do your own work

that's a subtitle format y'know
lol i'm just kidding

I'm gonna go to sleep
3am is time programming make no sense nor does english

indubitaly.

its been good talking to you

you too. thanks for your help

I forgot how nice #php was
I'll be sure to come back soon

with my unescapable curse of loops in loops it feels like a rollercoaster

lol
fine ask me in 12 hours
night

ok, odd problem

?

using IE, i can pass the recaptcha correctly and login… with firefox, i can't

noscript?

ahh
that could be it
ill check

c/could be/is

nope, its set to allow

you know i don't know why i did that, because i don't understand how to use the /// system to correct mistakes
j2daosh on both your site and recaptcha.net?

im not sure about the recaptcha.net, ill check that too

just use s where you put c.
lol

ahh ok

???

i have noscript gobally allowed and still dont work

is anyone familliar with NSSBoard?

j2daosh what is it doing / not doing?

it is supposed to create a table in my database, but it does not

DARKGirl just ask your question.
ah

instead, it gives me error

what error?

it fails to login with my recaptcha error message in firefox, but works perfectly in IE

mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid mysql result resource in …/logon_user.php on line 21

j2daosh what's the error message

im actually not using it for its forum capabilities, but its username/password login capabilities

the one i made for it ("you entered the words wrong.")
what is the mysql query your performing?

means what it says. you entered the words wrong. link me to the page

…it looks VERY promising, if I can get it to operate properly
mysql_fetch_assoc()
oh wait, you mean the code

might be a good idea

well, lets see…
if($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result)) {
but I know what its not doing
its not creating a table in my database for some reason

is it code from nssboard ?

aye

ok dark… what is the mysq query your doing

i dont understand 'query'

your code you just postd is just saying "if i have rows returned, do this

are you a real girl DARKGirl?

some poeple still not use db absttraction layer ? at least for mysql/msqli …

The question of the centruy.

lol

Yes

superb answer.

heh

query would be something like, $query = "SELECT * FROM 'test'";

lets see

or whatever variable you named it

$ss-Destroy();
$ss-Open()
$_Session['logged_in'] = true;
etc, etc, etc
and then an else statment

why are you pasting those things?

echo "Unknown username or password"
because j2daosh wanted to know what the rest of the code was
and mind you,

paste the code in www.pastebin.com and then show us the link

j2daosh doesn't matter horribly because it's under $1000 usually :P

yeah, paste it

in addition to the mysql error, I am receiving unknown username and password

j2daosh i'd have to have him web design 20+ pages to bust a couple grand.

it sounds like you've brokened the intertron.

erp that was meant for /msg lol

badly. and may need to buy a new one

lol i know

http://pastebin.com/d6b586df2
there it is

ok, gimme a sec

after line 19, put echo $sql; exit;
then you'll see the sql being sent. try and run it in your phpMyAdmin or mysql or sqlyog.
lawl!

would it be a bad idea for me to boot my comp into ms-dos 3.0?

never used mysql_unbuffered_query() before. weird.

um
I DO NOT have phpmyadmin
I do have navicat though

well try that. see what its querying.
hmm should have session_start(); at the top of the page i think?!

im telling you

might be in the config.php

its querying nothing!
theres nothing to query

do you know that from echo'ing the $sql?
if not, do it.

fine, fine
moment please

nein!

well if it shouldn't be doing a sql query, you shouldn't be asking it to see if there are rows

EoN that would be proper if she used "moment mal"
not "moment please"
:P

lol

SELECT id,username,email,realname FROM developer_user WHERE username='test' AND password='38200006543e005b94ab316e87f72921' LIMIT 1

j2daosh you sure you don't have js disabled somewhere or something?

there you have it

im pretty sure i haven't, but i may have some whacked extension that is messed up

brb, need some drink

but if it was me, it would work for you
and i thought you said it wasn't working for you

j2daosh it isn't.
it is working on their non-js version though

Just out of curiousity for you Linux developers, what text editor do most of you use for php development?

ok good, as long as it aint just me
textpad

disable js in noscript for both your site and recaptcha.net and refresh and try

i did

ed is leet.
j2daosh works on that version?

Not windows :P

i even cleared the cache, then closed the browser and retied
oh, *nix, vim
vi Improved

most people will say that emacs wins. it really fails.

I was hoping for a GTK app. I'm using gedit which gets the job done pretty well.

complete with color syntax and all

try ed. even though it's straight out of 1979 (literally, the first editor), i'm a lot faster at it than a regular editor :P

back

Aptana works nicely on *nix too

ok, DARKGirl, i'm kind of a newb when it comes to php, but what are you trying to do with line 19?
it looks like this is your login page…
or your login.php rather

why yes it is
you are exactly right!
that is my goal

ok, so your doing your $_POST, md5'ing yourpass, and then your attempting to check against the DB to see if its a valid user right?

aye

ok, quick question. Why are you using LIMIT 1? technically, there should only be 1

don't use limit 1
because then if it matches 2, your system isn't secure ; )

boo

whats the diff between mysql_query() and mysql_unbuffered_query()?
who in here uses Firefox?
not you KairuMaiku, we already know it dont work with you :P
and also, doesn't session_start() destory and recreate a session?

dunno
me
aww
no
!+enter

run the query in your query runner
and see the results.
ERGH hergggh erggh

dangit!!! what the hell am i doing wrong with this thing
s/hell/heck
sorry

change mysql_unbuffered_query( to mysql_query(

whats the diff between the 2 EoN?

i've never seen the unbuffered one in my life
hahaha

lol
eon, you use firefox?

momento

are you itailian or something?
s/itailian/italian
not enough coffee tonight
speaking of qhich… ill be back in a sec

yep, i sure do
there is no other browser

ok the query did nothing

Salut Flash_ouille
hi!

hello
hi uu uu
is anybody in there

Ive tried to run the query but I receive the same error

Is there a php function for auto-generating a random password?

md5(time())
Trim length as you see fit.

Salut Demon`
Salut JTyler
Salut BankHead

what is the error?

I need to list the result of a "while" do you how to do it? i need to get my result $result= list of the while's result
Salut speed|89

thanks.. interesting idea..

Salut Nexcet

lots of errors

no.
copy the sql query, paste it in your MYSQL (phpmyadmin, or hwatever you use)
run the query direectly on mysql. and tell me the result.
it wont give you an error about session destroy etc, because mysql knows nothing about the session.. you're only pasting the SELECT statement, not the php

i dont understand 'query' do you mean my entire php code?

SELECT id,username,email,realname FROM developer_user WHERE username='test' AND password='38200006543e005b94ab316e87f72921' LIMIT 1
php passes that exact text to MySQL. mysql says 'ok thank you, heres the result'. what we're doing here, is removing php from the picture, and seeing if your mysql query is correct. so go into navicat, and paste that query (somewhere will allow you to write/paste sql)
lawl!

ah ha!
Table 'developer.developer_user' doesn't exist
did you see the error?

sure did
there we have it
it would appear the table developer.developer_user doesnt exist

but thats what i said in the beginning! :-(

lawl!
you did not say that at all
Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in …/logon_user.php on line 21
i dont see anything about a table there.

but i did

at least we've esetablished one thing, you're DEFINITELY a girl.

I said that the install did not work at all
i was told to create an empty database with no tables

ahhh ok. do that.

ok, what did i miss?

ahahaha!

the install was supposed to create the tables
but it did not :-(

what was the messages it gave when you ran it?
failing that, i suggest you buy some 'my little ponys'
and dress them in various outfits

the error you saw

lol
YaY!
:P
you there dark?

i am

ok, i have been gone for the last 20-30 minutes so i need to get up to speed. have you tried putting an echo in front of your $sql and then copying that line of output off the page and running it thru a query analyzer
?

yes

and did it give you anything?

and i get 'Table 'developer.developer_user' doesn't exist'

ok, then you need to create the table
and/or the database

developer_user is the table, yes?

what are you using for mysql? phpadmin or mysql administrator tools
yes

im using navicat

DB = developer | DB_Table = developer_user

also most mass hosting admin panels apply a 'prefix' to mysql databases
usually the username
so if the hosting machine is running something like ensim or directadmin

that is also correct

keep that in mind
usually it's the username of the database owner

i get hosted thru siteground and they make me prepend my db's with my username

eh

ok

i have a half dozen different colos that are all configured differently :x

so when i make db requests, i have to refer to it as $database="username_website";

ill add it

lol i started prefixing my databases with my username way back during like plesk 3

"website" being what i call my DB
well i used wamp up till i bought my hosted domain. it was much easier in those days
but i didn't have the bandwidth for it

ok i'm off to bed all
ciao

later man

Adding prefixes to your database tables is stupid. Any host will give you your own DB- you won't have to share it.

MarkR42 we're talking about db names.

Oh I see

and usernames

DB names could be anything of course
I had a project where THere were 100 sites each with their own DB, the DBs obviously had to be named sensibly

MarkR42 but the chance of multiple users wanting the db name "forums" on a server hosting 2,000 people is high

Right, so the sysadmin needs to choose the db names
Or at least, not allow sharing

MarkR42 hard to do when the users are the ones who create the databases, no?

salut a vous!

well if the site owner is the DB admin and he aint friends with the 200 + other admins on the hosted server, obviously there will be DB conflicts

cPanel, Plesk, DirectAdmin are all set up so that the users create their own databases, but they're all prefixed by their username

I see. I hate those things.

MarkR42 good thing I didn't mention Interworx then! You can't hate that

brb, lightning just stuck my building

I've no idea what that is

Control panel. Very nice.

But if it's a control-panel-to-manage Apache-and-mysql, I can guarantee it sucks

Not quite as nice as my company's custom solution, but nice indeed.
MarkR42 you can manage Apache and MySQL, but to an extent. It more or less is a total system management bit for hosting companies to set up users with.

exactly

The problem I find is that a) They have awful security holes b) They bastardise every package they touch so that it can't now be configured in the conventional way any more

my hosting company uses cpanel

but like i said. i still prefer my company's custom solution. we can manage all of that and billing from a shell

Also, c) Idiot users think that screen-scraping them with e.g. curl is a really good idea

MarkR42 obviously you haven't used interworx

Maybe it's very good

It's good enough to the point where someone running centos can install the latest version of php via yum
Or likewise with freebsd and ports
or compile it on their own, if they're so inclined
it has its own packages for all the internal stuff so you can't screw with it unless you remove those

cpanel held back the php5 roll out by years.
single handedly

how so?

they didn't release it in /scripts

i was using perl when all that happened i guess

meaning that whatever unbelievably high % of sites on the net using cPanel couldn't use php 5 :P

because cpanel only worked on php4, so lazy/fkwit web hosts didnt want to go to php5 which they couldnt run cpanel with

EoN has to do with migration stuff

but in the past month or so, cpanel has become php5 compatible.. probably because the php4 End Of Life has been announced.
cpanel need their backs whipped with a hammer.
true. its a bit of both i reckon

hmmm.

no host wants to migrate a server
let alone hundreds :P
been there done that.

my cpanel has 5.0.5….

does anyone know of a good (or at least moderately acceptable) video conferencing solution that could be used for an online classroom environment ?

and has for atleast 3 monthes…

j2daosh was in beta for a while

i know that was seriously off topic.

hi

i think php 5 came w/ cP 11 beta
don't remember. like i said, i don't use it often :P
ok i'm really off to bed now
gnite

i've determined that 90%+ of the apps sourceforge are awful.
that or their search system is highly inefficient.

lol
i always thought the interface is not crash hot

man
I just wrote a long ass question, and as I was writing it, I found the solutin :P
it was like, 4 lines :P

does php send any identifying user agents or something?
with fopen wrappers

TehSausage, why don't you find out?
Or shall I?

then again, it could be my server blocking it XD
because it doesnt give a certain header

You can ask it to send one, but it doesn't send a UA string by default

fopen("http://somehost:80/somepage"); right?

yeah, i think i know why
i'll put myself on the proxy allow list

im using cpanel x
yeah i know, that was like so 20 minutes ago but what can i say. I love stormy weather.
lol and he aint even here anymore
or well

connect to [127.0.0.1] from localhost [127.0.0.1] 49536
GET /somepage HTTP/1.0
localhost:1337
That's all it sends.
GET and Host

okay, looks like the slow backup will work as long as my ip doesnt change half way XD

hi. whats the easiest way to have php send email on a local testing server? server is ubuntu with lamp stack. do i need to setup a mail server?

Hi, how do I save an image from a url resource? (url resource containing GD code to create image)

install a mail server such as exim and a mail user agent such as kmail. Configure the exim to deliver mail for some fake domain locally. Send mail to that fake domain from PHP, and pick itup in a local user spool with your mail user agent (e.g. kmail, thunderbird)
If it's simply an image that already exists, you could load it into a local file with copy(). No GD is necessary. This of course assumes fopen wrappers are enabeld.
e.g. copy('http://some.server/something.jpg', '/local/writable/path/something.jpg');

oki, im taking a zzz and ill finish (hopefully) the code tomorrow

MarkR42 I might have a syntax problem, do you mind if I show you a quick pastebin?

well, later today

MarkR42, thanks. And how do I tell php about the mail server? The only ini settings i know are for sendmail and SMTP, the latter of which is Win32 only i think?

You don't need to configure PHP for this. It will use the installed MTA. You need to configure your local MTA to accept messages for a fake domain (e.g. test.fake)
Then you can mail youruser@test.fake

MTA?

and it should drop into your local mailbox where you can pick it up with the MUA of your choice

MarkR42 I create the image using php - header is set to : header("Content-Type:image/png")

mail transfer agent?

MTA = message transfer agent, MUA = mail user agent (e.g. interactive email program)

MarkR42 in a seperate file called imageCreate.php

cool - i will give it a whirl. thanks mr.

If you want a hint, the Ubunutu standard MTA is exim. You can apt-get install exim4, then dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config

well, the one time it seems to be working, flush() stops working XD

nice! thanks

Use any mail program you like as long as it can read from a local user mailbox
I know kmail and thunderbird works

thunderbird will do fine of evolution doesnt work

I think evolution has the option of reading a local mailbox too

Warning: fopen(imageCreate.php?color=blue) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/public_html/test/mail_mime2.php on line 6 http://pastebin.com/m275a41be
Is it possible to dynamically create an image in one php file, then in another file, save it to disk, and then mail it as an attachment?

You don't need to use two .PHP files for what you're trying to do
Put the relevant parts into functions and call them from a single page

MarkR42, but I want to re-use the imageCreate.php file to display the dynamic image in parts of a site, then mail the image when needed

kekeke

Put the relevant functionality into a function then, include the file with the function and call it.

in parts of the site, then when I need, make the image into an attachment (might not have to save the file to HDD, just think it would be easier)

Making HTTP calls to your own pages is pointless

did you see my pastebin?
http://pastebin.com/m275a41be

Yes. However, the standard mechanism of code reuse is: 1. Put the stuff into a function 2. Put the function into an include 3. Call the function as necessary

Does any1 know what the name of the background of required text fields in CSS is called?

I should think it's the same as non-required ones

actually
i think its just e-mail
e-mail and aim
do u know the names of those in CSS?

There is no specific CSS selector which selects based on the function of a text field.
CSS does not include those kinds of semantics (yet)

can i show u my code?

Yes but only if you stop calling me "u"

MarkR42 is it possible to save an image from imageCreate.php ?

Type in English please

sorry
lol

And don't "lol" either
It makes you smell like an AOL user

lol

I hate AOL

Of course, but don't do it. Instead put it into a function.

There's nothing in our channel guidelines that prohibits someone from saying "lol"

I didn't say it was in the channel guidelines, did I?

Then judge their speech elsewhere.

Alright go here http://23663.darkstargamers.com/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=register&agreed=true

Though…
php-bot: tell duckhunt about typing english
That's for the "u"

thats what the highlighted text box
is i want to change
and here is the CSS
http://pastebin.com/d7230a099

free shared hosting 3 sending my entire phpbb database uncompressed over http

Examine phpbb's code to determine what classes / styles it uses and/or add the appropriate ones as necessary. We don't support phpbb anyway
Black on black is not normally considered good for usability

no thats fine but the bright yellow with white color font
You cant see what you type

I imagine you are getting problems from a browser extension changing the colours of your page.
Disable *ALL* browser extensions and try again
And if it's a specific browser extension (e.g. Google toolbar, yahoo), read that extension's documentation
This is severely off-topic for ##php anyway

MarkR42 Can you suggest a way to turn the output of the imageCreate.php file into an imagefile?
MarkR42 without using functions?

Yes, rewrite it as a function and call the function
No, rewrite it as a function and call the function
THe only sensible, logical way of reusing PHP code within an app is by putting it in a function in an incldue file, including it and calling the function

MarkR42 how do I put a function call in a tag like img src="php function_1(); ?" /

On no account should you be making HTTP calls to your own pages, it's not only pointless, but complicated and more resource intensive.

thanks it ended up being Mozilla

Make another page which you can reference from an image tag which calls the same function

MarkR42, i went through the exim4 install. what kind of account should i be adding in thunderbird? standard email / unix mailspool? pop3?

I doubt it. I expect it's a browser extension
unix mailspool
Disable ALL browser extensions, and try again
I'm sure you'll find it is one of those

MarkR42 ok, I will be back then soon

is there a way i can check the presence of an ftp server on a certain domain?

FTP servers don't run on domains, they run on hosts.

or hosts, rather
sorry

On a given *host* you can check for the presence of one, yes

can you show me how?

I expect there's a PEAR module you can use to connect and retrieve the banner. Or you could just connect with fsockopen and read the banner yourself if you know a little about the FTP protocol. If you want to actually connect, you'll need a username and password, then you can use the fopen
wrappers.

And no, I can't show you how, but there are some ideas.

dont want to connect, just want to know to see if my ftp server hasnt fallen over

Oh, so it's a system monitoring application. Consider using something like nagios instead.

yes
okay ill have a look, thanks for your help

MarkR42, works great - thanks mate.

So you can ssend yourself messages from PHP and read them locally? Cool. I think that's a good dev environment

MarkR42, havent done it via php yet. i need to make the validation in my script a bit more relaxed as it wont accept user@localhost

does firefox automatically try to parse xml files with rss version="2.0"? my rss generator generates good xml according to w3, but when i replace the root node of "foo" with "rss version=\"2.0\"" i no longer get output and my rss feed aggregator doesn't show any listings.

MarkR42, just for testing obvioulsy

maybe should ask in #firefox

You can configure the local mail name as whatever you want, and accept messages for other domains too.

it's a tangent question to… does $this-xml-createElement("rss version=\"2.0\""); break the createElement function in any way? i don't get any output.. no errors, nothing.

Do you have all errors and warnings enabled?
That sounds like an invalid name for an element

$this-xml-createElement('foo') works fine.. everything's there.
yeah, it's set to display E_ALL

Last time I checked, the DOM libraries actually did let you create invalid names of elements etc

hm

I just tried calling createElement with a similar invalid name, got a Uncaught exception 'DOMException' with message 'Invalid Character Error'

hm.

Is $this-xml definitely a DOMDocument ?
Or is it some other third party class?

yeah. i'm using xampp for the first time due to an issue with another package needing a version of mysql i don't have installed.. maybe xampp's being goofy.
$this-xml = new DomDocument('1.0');

Calling createElement with something which isn't a valid element name should throw an exception. It does on mine (5.2.1 CLI)

hmm.
i'll try the cli

can someone please look over a script I've done and give me a few tips on how I Should do things better? it would really be appricated…

huh. ran it through the cli (5.2.3) and i got no output.

No exceptions?

nope

$xml = new DomDocument(); $xml-appendChild($xml-createElement("not valid=innit"));
And it threw an exception

changing "rss version=\"2.0\"" to "rss" gave me the correct output.
no exception on that..
wtf.
hm

Are you absolutely sure that you were running with all error logging, reporting etc

i'll double check.
maybe this xampp thing is wonky

Try just doing throw new Exception("test");
Perhaps the exception is being thrown but not output

ini_set('error_reporting', E_ALL); ini_set('display_errors', TRUE) or 1 or ON.. still nada.
hm.

kuja, hello

nothing in the apache logs, either.

Is there some flag which makes an unhandled exception silently exit?
Have you tried just throwing an exception from the php CLI?

i'll try that now.

Incidentally, I just tried php -r 'throw new Exception("hi");' and it threw an exception then crashed PHP

hah

hi all

Figured it out. $foo = $this-xml-createElement("rss"); $foo-setAttribute("version", "2.0");
still can't figure out why no exception was thrown.

what library is "recommended" adodb or the one from pear?

doesnt crash in 5.2.0

Hey folks
I'm a php hobbyist and I'm having trouble with a crap CRM app that I'm editing
Basically, I can't find their API docs (LiveArticle) and I'm just trying to edit a class
I am at the right place in the code, but it keeps saying that my class doesn't have a custom metho
*method
is there some new way of making methods for a class, besides inserting "function blah() {}" inside the class definition???

no

can anyone tell me what is the best option for going to use a database library for php? adodb? pear? creole? propel?

thx - I'll recheck my code for starters…. :-)

BUT! classes can inherit methods
bemson, check the classes definition

understood - but this one isn't being extended from another class

for extend or similar
^^

ok
I didn't create the class, just trying to modify it

well then remember you candefine a function inside a function
like include() a file that holds function definitions

I'll try that too - isn't the same-named function the one invoked at instantiation?

either that one or __construct

And isn't there another name for that function now…
exactly

^^
also __destruct respectively

I'll make a construct function then, and see where that get sme

hm

thanks much noimnot

not supported in PHP4 tho
yer welcome

laterz!

If I use LGPL library and my project use GPL licence, should I include LGPL licence too?

if you care talk to a lawyer or read the license
it's all so fucked in the meantime….
i use the NPL (Nihil public license)
"nihilo ex nihil"

"nihil novi"?

meh?

i use the PMMF license

thx again noimnot - I'm good (nuff) now
later folks!

it used to be known as the "Pay me or I'll send some Romanian thugs to cut your ears off" license, but that was too long.

hey guys is it possble to make a form with a get request return a address like /this+is+my+search ?!
with mod_rewrite

yes, also without mod_rewrite

uhh sweett how ?

you either use the 404 forward handler, split the request uri and set a $_GET variable yourself, then incldue your site
or just read the man of mod_rewrite

hmm i know
but it is a form that is submitted
and it auto prdouces ?query=

oh
tried having no name for the fields?

know all the other stuff
its stil making the ?=

then no
read the rfc

okay

also that has nothing to do with mod_rewrite
it is client side

okay :/
solution could be make a default handler
that is redirecting with the parameter S

use mod_rewrite to rewrite the url
+

ye iknow

remove the get parameter names could work

time wise could i use = to compare 2 times in the format "11:42"?

kevingruscoe, no

How would i go about comparing 2 times like that then?

but str_replace(":","",$time1)=str_replace(":","",$time2);
or explode(":",$time); and compare 2 arrays
your choice

Hello how can I select a row from a MySQL-table like this? $sql_get_userdata = mysql_query("SELECT * FROM users WHERE MD5(user_id) = '" . $_SESSION['adtrader_se']['auth'] . "'"); (note: MD5(user_id)) Hope u understand what I mean…

copyninja, #mysql

noimnot, it's kinda dead in there but okay thanks

there is a reason for this
to many people with ridiculous requests i take it

hi

noimnot, say what?

to many people with ridiculous requests i take it

I don't understand what you mean.

people that are just to lazy to think asking stuff they could answer themselfs

Generally speaking, people will store the MD5 hash and then compare against that, rather than what you appear to be doing which is storing the unhashed value and hashing every time for comparison

noimnot, If you assume someone could answer a pretty easy question (like mine) which would take about 30 seconds of their time, why not just simply ask before you start digging the net for answers? But anyways thank you for your time.

help!
I am attempting to use POST vars with a curl script

Yeah, It's usually done that way (ie with passwords). But I assume there must also be a way to do the viceversa.

copyninja, there is no reason to do it "viceversa"

but some of the data I am submitting comes from a select that allows multiple forms, how do fix the postvars to accommodate the multiple part
multiple selects*

It's not normal for a database to implement the MD5 algorithm.

FYI, please be more specific

php.net/faq.html

what is "a select that allows mutliple forms"?

I assume not.

sorry - hardly any sleep… I will try to be more coherent

Thank you. I will find a different way to solve it then.

select mulitple

I am using cURL, and need to post to a page. I am acting as if I am the form. The form I am pretending to submit from has a multiple select… I need to know how to fill out the post vars for cURL to submit

oh, so you mean multiple values, k
you are TEH FORM man!

php.net/faq.html

apparently var_name=single_value doesn't work

on oracle how can i insert a blob to longraw field?
with php

TML - that doesn't help, thanks though

FYI, find out how the browser is supposed to send multiple post values..

A doubt about SSL. I am going to prepare a website in SSL. There I am going to show a page with FORM. There the use will have to enter confidential information and the form will submit to the server. My server is Apache with PHP. I do not know how to make the FORM page to be shown and get
form datas securely? Somebody help please….

How can I make this work? function a($x) { function inner() {print $x} }; a("test");

there are no websites in SSL
SSL is not a markup language

correct.
How can I make this work? function a($x) { function inner() {print $x}; inner(); }; a("test");

wam, why are you repeating yourself?

function inner($x)

I corrected myself.

i was about to say something, not i feel obligated not to; so you learn something

That's not possible.

Then you can't do it

I'm creating PDO emulator (because MySQL driver is disabled on ByetHost) based on MySQLi. However, is PDOStatement a child of PDO?

Note that there's really not such a thing as an "inner function" in PHP anyways.

wam, function inner() { global $x; echo $x; }

I wanted to avoid making it global. But when that's the only way :/ Thanks.

you don't need that funciton in function construct
wam, meh

That won't work unless it's inserted into the