Hey Frozty if I had multiple virtual domains on my apache server and I wanted to know which ones were invalid
f_newton, it maps windows syscalls to librarys in linux that do the same
dang, a little wimsy does go a long ways in this business — esp. when it gets these guys' dander up for _daring_ to _criticize_ the Lord High Poobah, Vmware … well excuuuuuuse me ;P
so its like that french dude what went with us where ever we went in Paris and translated every word we said
f_newton, yeah pretty close to that
f_newton, to simplify an explanation
no wonder its so slow and sloppy
f_newton, you install nero burning rom on wine …
does anyone know when the new eclipse will be available for F7 - I want to use the latest CDT
f_newton, what burns in the background are the native linux things though
I dont use wine…. Im a whiskey or beer dude
f_newton, )
the only reason I had wine years ago is no longer a valid reason
f_newton, wine is beeing ported to windows
f_newton, not joking
oh lord
I thing we need to port a few good apps from the windows format to linux but wine to windows… what for?
uh think
f_newton, debugging is the primary reason currently.
f_newton, there are other use cases though
wine to windows?? huh
I could imagine me before moving from windows to ubuntu, installing wine on windows and testing which programs would work on it
CaneToad, yup.
yeah that got me too CaneToad
which turkeys are doing that?
CaneToad, #winehackers
thats kind of like making sneaker overshoes for your loafers
well dx10 support is also beeing worked on in wine
does anyone know when the new eclipse host will be available for F7 - I want to use the latest CDT
well once I get my new mini pci e card I will be a happy camper
wine or no wine
xen doesn't help you when the rest of the team uses vmware for their development environment
I used to work in Canberra, Australia at the ANU, the same place where Andrew Tridgell who wrote Samba worked. I worked in an open plan fishbowl area there and one day this guy walked in and I almost threw him out because I thought he was a student in a staff area. It was Linus T. That was the same year he was bitten by a penguin at the zoo in Canberra.
where you live now?
Brisbane
Ah, I moved to Townsville about 3 months ago 
Used to live in Mel, then went to Syd for a few weeks for work, then quit & moved
now in TSV, working @ Telstra, hehe
Tridge was a pretty amazing guy. Some businessman contacted him and gave him $10,000 for about 1 hours work getting some device going on a system that would get him a big sale.
Epping, I know that place
cool
My father worked at CSIRO radio physics in 1975-76
I just moved from Canberra to Melbourne. I worked with Tridge on Canberra LUG
I'm one of the organisers for Linux.conf.au
Tridge also put together an operating system for Fujitsu 128-sparc massively parallel box that was better than Fujitsu's OS.
we ended up putting a gag order on him for the PSIG meetings, otherwise he'd spoil the talks by asking "why didn't you do xxxx"
we ended up putting a gag order on him for the PSIG meetings, otherwise he'd spoil the talks by asking "why didn't you do xxxx"
he's the only guys I know who can glance at someone else's code, take it in and understand it without asking any questions
s/guys/guy/
my brother in law is like that
ex brother in law
correction
lol
I used to do a lot of C hacking but been hiding in the Java J2EE world for about 10 years now.
i need help
c standard is the root of all evil so to speak
because its one up on b
my second sata drive is not detected in fc7
what is the problem?
looked at dmesg output?
well from what you said id say that your second sata drive isnt detected
they should have stopped at ratfor!
in bios it is detected
unlike potfor, which is still in use
but i dmesg its not
i tried dmesg command
in bios it is detected
what is the solution?
how do you know that it isn't detected?
sda is but sdb is not?
in dmesg no second sata hdd is not there
i have one ata and 2 sata disk
ah dang, i didnt know there was linuxconf's in Melb, would have went last yr :/
one ata and one sata is detected
fdisk -l ?
but not the second sata
hmmm sounds like software raid to me
promise raid?
by typeing fdisk -l
only two disk is detected
one ata and one sata
I have an external hard drive, it mounted it…but the icon is on the desktop twice.
How can I make it be on there ujst once?
Rishi_imp, yeah, you probably have fakeraid enabled in your bios. disable it to use the drives individually.
Ive seen that problem before tofaffy
me too
Do you know how to fix it?
when I rebooted the machine it went away … no explanation
no raid is enabled
Well…it isn't really going away
can you use the menu to unmount it?
i am using intel 945gnt board
or it gives you an error when you try?
have you tried alt/ cntl/ backspace?
there is no raid option
like right click un mount? if I do that, it unmounts it…leaves one icon, and I click on it and it says it isn't mounted
yup I've seen the same behaviour
it went away the next time I booted
must be some bug
lol yes tofaffy thats what happens
Rishi_imp, smoltSendProfile -a
what?
smoltsendprofile -a
?
Rishi_imp, run it, with the same case, and paste the url. then we can see your hardware.
http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/show?UUID=bf276217-cda1-44e9-91ac-8cd99f1895e4
zcat , what is my solution
hello
why does "xfd -fn '-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-12-120-75-75-m-70-iso10646-1'" not work ?
(with my up to date fedora 7)
"doesnt not work" is not an helpful description, you know that ? -_-
does anyone know when the new eclipse will be available for F7 - I want to use the latest CDT
the xfd window appears and immediately disappears, and xfd fails with "X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist)"
my second sata not detected
why?
Rishi_imp, because you need to reverse the polarity of /dev/null
how?
Rishi_imp, thought maybe you had more than one sata controller. but nope. check bugzilla.redhat.com
is anyone able to run "xfd -fn '-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-12-120-75-75-m-70-iso10646-1'" without an immediate crash of xfd ? (on an up to date f7)
works for me
urk
thanks
Gahh at the slow updates
anybody here to solve my problem
have you checked the bugzilla, as suggested ?
moan - no driver for my notebook's built-in webcam… http://hardware4linux.info/server/component/10711/
no driver for the built-in tv tuner either
yea
but nothing found
rishi, if you're looking at your dmesg output
if you search for "pdc" do you find anything?
ok
i will check
is there something about your second sata drive that would prevent it from being detected, .e.g., are you sure it is getting power and all that happy hardware horsesh*t?
yea i am working it with vista
in bios it is also detected
hmm
can you paste your whole dmesg output into pastebin.com and post the resulting url here?
pdc not found
ok
sure
ok
here is the link for dmesg
http://pastebin.com/m26418898
looking
I can see two lines for ata3 and ata4, both sata
port disabled. ignoring.
hmm, sorry, that's pata
how can i used ata4 then
i am having problem with ata4
its 200gb sata hdd
how can i mount ata4 disk
so it should be appearing as /dev/sdb?
no
k, /dev/sdc?
sdb is my first sata disk
not second one
k
there is no sdc also
yeah looks to me like something isn't working with that disk
I mean in the kernel
what is the solution
what happens when you try to fdisk -l /dev/sdc ?
just for the heck of it?
you could try some things….
ok let me check it
if you internally connect the other drive where the one that is working is, does the kernel see it?
probably best to boot from CD if you're testing such
Good idea to write a report and cite your whole dmesg in it at bugzilla.redhat.com
I need to crash out in bed
cu4now
yes
no sdc
tell me somthing
how can i rectified this?
it's a weird problem
hahaha
but i need my second sata
how old is the computer, Rishi_imp ?
its not too old
i am using 945gnt intel motherboard
945 chipset
I just saw that ICH6, wondered how well that particular incarnation of Intel's stuff had been tested
….with Linux, I mean
ich6 i think works, ich 7 doesnt
do secondary repos like livna and freshrpms still not mix?
they still dont
whats the major malfunction as far as packaging?
packages conflict.
what if the rpm has few depandancies?
mikerose357, I got into a big bitching match at fedorumforum about that.
it seems like they should come to an agreement as far as packaging
i use yum-priorities to give livna a higher priority than freshrpms so freshrpms is only used for the few things I install from there that aren't in livna
hmmmm I normally use smart so I don't know that that helps me
bitchkat, just hope that freshrpms doesn't obsolete any packages in your priority repos (like atrpms and dries currently do) before the plugin gets updated with the patch that fixes that problem.
F7_T60_wireless_, i wouldnt recommend to irc as root
F7_T60_wireless_,
zcat, i haven't had a problem yet — which may be just luck and I do thank you for pointing out that issue
I would think it would be safe if you watch what is actually going to be installed and nix any install that removes something you need
F7_T60_wireless_, to fix your problem , run /exec -o grep root /etc/shadow
F7_T60_wireless_, ouch
all in all you think that in the years the repos have been around they would have figured out how to work together
F7_T60_wireless_, dont do that )
…………………
F7_T60_wireless_, seriously you should never really require to use a graphical desktop as root at all
ok
LOL
http://ponzo.net/newshawk/Helter_Stupid_and_The_Perfect_Cut/Negativland_-_04_-_The_Perfect_Cut_(Rooty_Poops).mp3 — for those into negative land
er, negativland
bitchkat, i'll put my fedorasolved 'safe repomixing' howto back up when that problem is fixed…
broken link
anybody here use firefox and read digg?
i'm curious if anybody else experiences any slow-loading/hanging when loading all of the comments on digg
nm you just can't right click it
i always get a 'script broken' alert and my browser freezes for ~5 seconds everytime i load a page of comments
sane here with slashdot mot
mot, the comments are the worst part about digg. just ignore 'em
but its usually like 2 seconds
regarding negativeland what kind of drugs is that guy on
zcat, better would be to ping the people regarding the state of rpmfusion
che, that topsecret egofusion thing?
zcat, http://www.rpmfusion.net/
zcat, a href="http://www.rpmfusion.net/"http://www.rpmfusion.net//a
zcat, i dont see much negative about it
che, maybe i'm thinking of something else
F7_T60, wb
thank you, che
i am a newbie to linux……
dang, rpmfusion doesn't track mythtv
how can i stop the dbus service on a fedora system? there is no obvious init.d script..
(i compiled it myself and want to start it manually)
i searched in /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession, but found nothing
oh i'm wrong, there it is..
you compiled the source rpm? or the tar-ball?
the cvs…
make install?
well, it would be placed unter /usr/local. i installed in in a local directory below my home dir
i guess the Xsession scripts won't find it there..
or whichever scripts figure that out..
k
the lesser evil make install
don't know here the init script goes in that case
gentoo, the system for old people (with lots of time on their hands)
for development, i find that every binary distro i used so far provides insufficient integration for self-compiled source
Can anyone help me to find out what file specifies a users desktop image?
a desktop image?
gentoo is, of course, very time-consuming in general, but regarding integration of self-compiled source, its just great
backgrounds/wallpaper?
~/backgrounds/wallpaper?
no
system perfernces look and feel desktop background
I was asking if, by desktop image, you meant wallpaper
in that case, install/start gconf-editor
right I know that, I want to write a script that if its between 8am and 4pm, it has 1 background image, and after 4 to 8am it has another
in that case, use the gconftool-2
path = /home/steven
browseable = yes
public = yes
writable = yes
share modes = yes
hmm so noone sees a simple way to disable the system's dbus-daemon? like a /etc/default setting ENABLE_DBUS or something?
every one this in my smb.conf
but after i run it
i can not open folder steven
berzerka, only if you want to totally wreck your system
but you might need gconf-editor to know what setting you have to adapt with gconftool
have any option let me copy file from winxp to steven folder?
hal and udev depend on dbus
selinux can stop samba from serving homedirs
check you selinux messages in F7
ultimate_frisbe1, it's easy to do that with dcop under kde, but i'm not sure with gnome. some dbus stuff.
hmmmmn
i usefedor
i guess then i will just disable my gdm and use startx with an own .Xsession file and use blackbox, and start my own dbus-daemon from there. Southern_Gentlem: yes i know i want to compile and start them manually too (hal at least, udev if i need to..).
i use fedora
Why is it that I do mount -o remount,ro / it goes RO, but df shows / as rw ?
but touch xxx says its ro.
df?
Eliran_Itzhak, what is the exact df command you are using
df doesnt show rw/ro
df -h ? or mount -o remount,ro /
have you checked what I wrote before?
df -h doesnt show ro rw
Anvil, Sorry, my mistake, I was talking about mount, not df.
the more fedora-compatible way would be to make the system scripts pick the executable from my local directory, any ideas how i would do that? set root's PATH?
mount shows it as rw, but its ro.
how do i improve my screen resolution (F7, T60)? now it is 1024X768.
thank you
i had install FC7 via internet when i was install FC7 choose english for install language but after i install FC7 it cant display chinese and japanese how can i let my FC7 display chinese and japanese in X window
try ctrl-alt-numpad+/-
mount will return the mtab content
works fine here with everything but /, because that is in use
which cant be updated if / is ro
paste your /etc/x11/xorg.conf
Anvil, Oh, ok. thanks. I was wondering about that.
selinux can stop samba from serving homedirs
check you selinux messages in F7
sorry sir
cat /proc/mounts
sorry StevenOdb i don know what is it
i using command line
does kdebase-3.5.7-0.1 in f7 not include kpersonalizer anymore?
Anvil, Ok, thanks.
kc8hfi, rpm -ql kdebase
you seem to know much about the workings of fedora, do you see a way to make the gdm/xsession startup scripts pick the executables from my local hal/dbus-installation directory?
(as root) grep 'home' /var/log/messages
berzerka, nope
:/
Paste my xorg.conf here?
check for SELINUX warnings/errors
Southern_Gentlem, I reckon not..thanks
F7_T60, there
ok. thank you
F7_T60, i give link to pastebin before i asked for the paste
F7_T60, what video card
http://rafb.net/p/sXIp8×31.html
i saw this one "'/home/steven' does not exist or is not a directory, when connecting to [stevendir]"
ui saw this one "'/home/steven' does not exist or is not a directory, when connecting to [stevendir]"/u
F7_T60, what video card?
is there anyone could help me
There is a ~/.gnome2/backgrounds.xml, but it unfortunately just populates the desktop-wallpapers list
paste that part of messages log in pastebin
ultimate_frisbe1, it will be in the /home/user/.gnome most likely
I followed the instruction here : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Fedora_7_on_a_ThinkPad_T60
Southern_Gentlem, i had ask my question but no one can solve it
InitX|FC7, didnt see it
i had install FC7 via internet when i was install FC7 choose english for install language but after i install FC7 it cant display chinese and japanese how can i let my FC7 display chinese and japanese in X window
no idea on that
my video card is ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
the only dirs in ~/.gnome are apps and gnome-vfs, neither of which contain anything desktop like
can someone maybe tell me where I should put my config options for pureftpd so that it serves up the fedora7 dvd (or files, which I can put on hd)?
sorry StevenOdb i will do it next, now what i'm gonna do next?
ultimate_frisbe1, there is also a ,gnome2
I tried the docs but they are not very clear (or I am just misunderstanding it)
i'm checking in there as we speak
Southern_Gentlem, did u see it now?
yes and i replied
eh?
StevenOdb how can i enable it?
Southern_Gentlem, do u think this replied can solve my problem?
InitX|FC7, no thats why i didnt reply the first time
i want to copy file into direct steven in linux samba
i want to copy file into directory steven in linux samba
does f7 works on 64 bit good or should use 32 bit would be better for compatibility reasons?
InitX|FC7, other words chill, repeat your question in five minutes
Meet the Fedora Ambassadors - http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/02/video-meet-the-fedora-ambassadors/
yeah, ok, hold on, looking for the command
okei sir
I use the 64-bit version of F7 and it works great.
Southern_Gentlem, yes i did
jovans, depends what you want to do with it
aha! I Found it. ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background/%gconf.xml
holy shit they made default package managers not suck in fc7 heh
can someone please give me an ftp server which is easy to install
vs-ftp
multimedia
thank you Southern_Gentlem
yum install vsftp
I'm just waiting for the repolist to finish again
jovans, more info
sftp is already there..
please watch your language
did he say ubuntu?
bitchkat, let it go
no, read his post
i was just joking! 
game developement and multimedia studio is this enough?
frozty_sa, i am waiting on his next post before i said anything
cant find it. So you're not in gnome?
jovans, ok for java and flash you will have to install firefox-32 in x64
but i use opera
ay carumba
frozty_sa, sorry
i dont use opera so i have no idea but i do know that flash is a 32bit app and doesnt play well in x64
hm
Hi there, anyone about who knows much about VPN's?
but for windows normally do that right?
why not or linux
jovans no when i ran 64 windows flash didnt work
so ok
abode is starting to wake up on the 64bit issues
i think i stay either in 32 bit fedora
no problem
adobe rather
and java?
Can anybody help me please? How do i improve screen resolution (F7, T60)? My video card is ATI Mobility Radeon X1300. After default installation, I followed the instruction here : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Fedora_7_on_a_ThinkPad_T60. (# rpm -i http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-7.rpm # yum install kmod-fglrx) My etc/X11/xorg.conf was pasted here: http://rafb.net/p/sXIp8×31.html. Thank you…
no, 64-bit windows is pretty brain-dead, or so says my integrator (I don't use the stuff much, personally)
just always keep it in mind
F7_T60, i told you to run system-config-display
oh
sorry, I did not see your reply
it helps if you ask questions and want answers not to bounce back and worth
am I blind, or did Steven_eLvIsDa not paste the url for his pastebin?
to other things especially when someone is trying to help you
well, i did. But there is no higher resolution choice
F7_T60, did you install fglrx video driver? What is the highest resolution that is listed?
1024*768
is the highest one
and did you install fglrx from livna?
i have installed fglrx video driver
F7_T60 did you reboot after installing the kmod
yes, i have rebooted
Hello! How do I check the verson of my video card? What's the command
I checked dmesg but didnt see anything
i grep'd ati
look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what driver X is using
boot into runlevel 3 login as root then do a system-config-display –reconfig configure the adaptor and monitor
bitchkat, you are way behind
Will that show me the model?
sorry, that wasn't for me I guess
thank you, Southern
i will try that
Southern_Gentlem, not surprised. Anyways, I need to start getting to the airport so that we can kick some Canadian butt in the first women's international match of Australian Football
bitchkat, i had him paste his xorg.conf which was he relisted in his post
i'm in command line of fedora
What is the command from the terminal to open the desktop wallpaper changer?
try (as root) setenforce 0
and see if it works
FYI to anyone who might wanna know, kpersonalizer wasw moved to kdebase-extras
I've got the script to write the correct image filename to the xml file, I just need to find out what the Desktop Background Preferences calls to update the desktop
if you would use the tools that i provided you it would work automaticly
i try setenforce 0
you shouldn't be manually updating the xml
i did not see any happend
but i don't want any user interaction
is the game sauerbraten and warsow not opensource license?
that;s ok, try reconnecting
fedora core 6, vncserver running using startkde… kde comes up fine but i dont get any fonts (only those odd square boxes instead of fonts) anyone know why?
gconftool-2 doesn't require user interaction
why is not in f7?
ultimate_frisbe1, gconftool-2. i updated my random wallpaper script so it works in both kde and gnome
reconnect what StevenOdb?
to your samba
by
/etc/init.d/smb restart
what were you using before to connect to samba?
ultimate_frisbe1, http://rafb.net/p/Ste82423.html
winxp
\\192.168.100.132
ok is fc7 totally broken with nvidia?
mikerose357, works great for me
fc7 is a big steamy turd
acpi/pcmcia handling is broken completely.
i'd wait for 8 if i were you.
mot on your hardware
I just installed fc7 on a new system
installed nvidia via livna
gconftool-2 –type string –set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /path/to/image.jpg
mikerose357, uname -r
x fails to start
we're talking 1-year old laptop architecture
not 8 year old junk.
thanks for your help! sorry to have gone about this the long way
ok, and, does it work now?
mikerose357, boot into runlevel 3 login as root system-config-display –reconfig
yeah
it is work now
why it is work?
i did not do anything
why it work?
2.6.21-3194
anyone know about my realvnc issue?
why you know it is working StevenOdb?
mikerose357, and rpm -q kmod-nvidia
it only wants to start at all with the nv driver
it's working now ? why the "" then?
mikerose357, the kmod-nvidia you installed is for the current kernel not the default kernel
yeah StevenOdb it is work now
it was selinux interfering for your security
yeah StevenOdb it is working now
mikerose357, yum update
what selinux mean StevenOdb?
you are wrong Southern_Gentlem
their is a way to allow home-dir access for samba, without switching selinux off
mikerose357, rpm -q kmod-nvidia
security enhanced linux
ohhh
….updates take forever…
there
Hi there, anyone about who knows much about VPN's?
hold on you may be right
not many
mikerose357, answer my question
rpm -q kmod-nvidia
I telinit 3 and then did system-config-display –reconfig. The highest resolution is 800*600…
if you're in gnome, a yellow icon will appear in the systray, informing you of the way to allow homedir access
setenforce 0 = mean?
F7_T60, config the adaptor and the monitor athen go back to general
i just went on my first adventure with yum, now i am trying to do damage control
setenforce=0 turns selinux off
ok you are right in fact it upgraded my kernel to match BUT
my goal was to install adobe flash player, but i didn't succeed
I haven't rebooted
thanks
now i want to remove what i have installed
linux_stu, what did you do
i had done yum install swfdec-mozilla.i386
I have returned to original config.
and it installed 14 things, which i assume are dependencies
so yum remove it
ohh
okei
thanks
will it remove the dependencies it installed also that no other program needs
but if we selinux off
what wrong with our linux based hosting services OS?
no, yum doesn't do that
would it be safe to remove them all myself?
linux_stu, you yum.log should have log of what it installed and you remove each package it install
i still have the list of things it installed
ok
i will do that
linux_stu, would it be safe just to leave it alone
is the question
potentially
i don't care if i break my system
i want to figure this stuff out
thanks for the url Southern_Gentlem
linux_stu, x64 or 32 bit system
well its easy to reinstall linux_stu
StevenOdb can you tell me what wrong with our linux if we selinux off?
nothing's wrong, it's just less secure
Steven_eLvIsDa, is it on a private network
i have 32 bit system
linux_stu, then that link will work fine
How do I tell my wireless card to quit automatically connecting to the AP
heheheh Southern_Gentlem sometime we do it on the our vps or dedicated server
kc8hfi, tell it not to start on boot?
is there anyway to do without selinux off?
i removed them all successfully!
there is but I forgot the command, and I don't seem to find it with google
yes you have to edit your selinix policies
system-config-selinux
that works, but not for the purpose I need it now though. I had it working before, just can't remember. Its connecting to the strongest open AP…
Steven_eLvIsDa, you didnt answer my question is the network its on a private jvm java server hosting network
kc8hfi, mine connects to the strongest ap on the network i have used before
but of course i use netwrokmanger as well so its easy to switch
yeah Southern_Gentlem it is on LAN
ohhh well thanks Southern_Gentlem
but system-config-selinux command in GUI
ok, you can do it with de gui tool Southern_Gentlem suggested
can i see it in command line?
or run as root: setsebool -P samba_enable_home_dirs=1
after that: setenforcing 1
and try again
okei
Steven_eLvIsDa, does it have a public or private ip
yeah StevenOdb it still work
you mean my IP right?
ok great
the buy dedicated ip of the samba box
is LAN IP
it is LAN IP Southern_Gentlem
which means what
is it a public addressable ip
it start with… 192. ?
or 10.
10. ? or something else?
192
it is class C IP
thats is a private ip
cannot get exclusive lock on /var/lib/rpm/Packages" when i try to do step 4 here: http://fedorasolved.org/browser-solutions/flash/
use for local
running as root?
yes StevenOdb
linux_stu, try going to su - first
setsebool -P samba_enable_home_dirs=1
what does it mean?
what do you think it means
it tells selinux to allow samba to access home directories
command not found
"command not found?" A: Run the command AS ROOT after switching users with "su –login" or "su -" in order to get root's command PATH so the command WILL be found; don't run "su" by itself. If it's still not found, then either it's not installed in a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you've spelled it incorrectly.
linux_stu, read zcats post
ohhh well
thanks StevenOdb
i did
i still have the problem when i do su –login or su -
do you have yum running somewhere else
linux_stu, uname -r
2.6.20-2925.9.fc7xen
service yum-updatesd status
running another yum updte or rpm install/upgrade process?
not that i know of
StevenOdb, yum-updatesd
yum-updatesd (pid 13892) is running…
ah hah
service yum-updatesd stop
is that a service that starts automatically?
yep
ok
thanks all
can someone help me with a net install? I'm trying to install f7 via ftp, and it bombs out saying it can't retrieve the "images/minstg2.img" file
it's the backend for the update popup tool in gnome
oh no
it still didn't work
I've checked, and this file exists
ps axu | grep [r]pm
no return
ps axu | grep [y]um
no return
rpm -qa ?
rpm -qa gave a huge output
wget http://macromedia.mplug.org/FEDORA-GPG-KEY
rpm –import FEDORA-GPG-KEY
cannot get exclusive lock on /var/lib/rpm/Packages
disingenuous
weird
frozty_sa, you probably have your path wrong
linux_stu, exit the terminal and restart it
su - (notice the minus)
I've ftp'd into the server host from another pc and I definitely have it right
yeah
(which stands for –login)
it's basic..ftp://192.168.0.4/f7
i did that
just now
but it is also what i had done before
still doesn't work..?
same error?
frozty_sa, (or anaconda couldn't setup networking)
nope, doesn't work, same error
telinit 1 , telinit #previous
reboot
and after tha a reboot
is there a way I can check? this is I think still before anaconda loads….
that error is usuall not root as su -
even though, in this case.. it should even work without -
according to my dhcpd leases information, it's got an ip…
anyway, got to go
i did telinit 1
and then i tried telinit #previous, but #previous wasn't valid, so i did telinit 5, thinking that was probably the right number
does anyone know the command to edit the gconf junk in the most recent gnome?
linux_stu:
now you said to reboot?
if nothing else works…
ok
try kicking it
frozty_sa, what publish your images online are you booting from?
lol
i tried it, it didn't work
gl, bye
same error
bye
the boot.iso from the f7 dvd
hm.. could it be that wget downloads the first html page more than once?
(eg to check for the links)
hi everyone
frozty_sa, so what's in your f7 dir?
i seem to have a problem
the entire f7 dvd
that dir is a symlink to the dvd's mount
running fedora 7 , compiled my own kernel (like i have done always without problems) , now my samsung ide hdd isn't recognized(new hdd) , anyone know which modules i def need?
frozty_sa, you're probably missing something simple. use http instead, and watch the access_log
could you step me through the apache config?
frozty_sa, sorry :/
darn nvidia is still broken
k. I'll try to get it up
heh
what's viagra gonna help me?
btw, hello opsec
Does anyone else have trouble playing vorbis files with gstreamer lately?
hello, froz
kernel is 2.6.22.1-41 kmod nvidia is for 2.6.22.1-41
mikerose357, what video card
Is the CFS schedular in 2.6.23 or is it already in the Fedora kernels?
ah hell this is probably an old nvidia maybe I need legacy
what video card
check the hcl link on that howto
I don't know some nvidia
lspci
maybe geforce 2
stop guessing and check
"instead of giving you what you asked for, i'll just make vague generalities" -yours truly mikerose357
Hi, is there a way to . . .check my network card HOST ID on Linux ?
host id?
I didn't buy or put together this computer no need to be insulting
http://rafb.net/p/8yf8fZ24.html
Like. . .each network has a special number which identifies it e.g. 00004dac7e . . .etc.
ma caddress?
i wasnt being insulting nor was i the one cursing
Ethernet address.
chewed-on, each card has a different mac address
ifconfig\
ifconfig
Is there a way to find out the Eternet address ?
whatever, thanks for the help Southern_Gentlem , no thanks for the lip opsec
ifconfig is tha ta command ?
yes
/sbin/ifconfig
yeah I'm reading it now
chewed-on: yes, ifconfig will show it to you as "HWAddr"
thanks
how is it helpful to complain generally, then when asked for information and told how to get it.. you don't provide it.. is that fair to Southern_Gentlem or anyone else for that matter?
frozty_sa, 403 = permission denied
Oh, that's not the address I was looking for. . . .
I couldn't give a precise answer right on the spot because I didn't know, however the link he provided told me what I needed to know
….any idea how do I make it work?
It's something like "0040c78133a6"
frozty_sa, you said you were using a symlink? that's probably why
7:ac
the relevant info being that nvidia dropped support for early cards in the newest series of drivers
chewed-on, what kinda network card is this… sounds like you are looking at a token-ring card
chewed-on, it is the same address in more human readable form
I'll try to serve from that root directly then
oh is it ?
it was a D-link network card [:
7… blah is one way to show the hardware address of the
the colons are optional
ARGH!! I wanna headbut apache…
if it is a dlink, then it is most likely a ethernet card
anyone??
chewed-on, if you remove the ard the mac address is usually on the card somewhere
Alrighty then.
fdlinux, try nodma=ide on your kernelline in grub
no need to compile hosting your own kernel .. libata
Hey Frozty, if I had multiple virtual domains on my apache server and I wanted to know which ones were invalid, how would I go about making a list of those virtual domains which were invalid?
can i config DNS in my LAN
by take my linux is DNS server
prestwick, depends on how you define an 'invalid' virtualhost. documentroot doesn't exist? nothing logged for X months? doesn't resolve to you? what?
I found the problem, thanks
sure, why not?
HI, does ATI drivers still broken?
juannicolas, there is one that is suppose to work
via livna or rpm?
the newest one rather
ohhh
livna
in my document did not tell me that
how many package that i need to do DNS
how many package that i need to do DNS services and DNS services yet
Steven_eLvIsDa, are you the network admin for your lan
rpm -Uvh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-7.rpm ?
yeah sir
you should talk to them before you suddenly put a dns server
yeah sir, but my skill to low i need to improve
on their network
notice the requirements
too*
Thanks for help guys, [:
Everything's working fine
you around?
what is bind in linux (DNS)?
Steven_eLvIsDa.. this is a nice package in fedora called 'caching-nameserver' that works well as a basic setup. It installs everything you need
I have a quick question. While trying to download some Fedora 7 ISO images, they ALWAYS download corrupt. On a laptop I have, they downloaded and the SHA1 check sum came out good. I loaded up a ftpd on my desktop and transferred it over. SHA1 checked out bad
Any ideas?
you didn't transfer in binary mode
now i can /etc/init.d/named restart
lolz
now i looking for resolv.conf
But why would a download corrupt when downloading from the website as well? And only on my Desktop. It downloaded fine on the laptop.
no idea, but no transfering in binary mode is the obvious one
Anyone have any experiences with Intel ICH8M chipset (laptops)
search angkor.com
maybe you have bad hardware on the Desktop
can i change angkor.com to other?
Ok. I'll try transferring it via FTP again.
rfu_ make sure you enable binary mode on the FTP transfer
Yeah. I set it to binary mode.
ben@Tizzle:~/Fedora-7-x86_64$ sha1sum -c SHA1SUM
F-7-x86_64-DVD.iso: FAILED
F-7-x86_64-rescuecd.iso: OK
That's how it always happens
The CD is ok, but the DVD file fails.
how big is the dvd.iso file? what os/host are you running? Perhaps you are hitting the 2GB limit?
ubuntu. 3.3gb
you have disk space available? did the ftp complete? or error out?
FTP completed.
Size on disk is exactly the same on both the laptop and on the desktop
and you got the file from the same mirror for both?
Yeah.
The laptop has a good copy, but no DVD burner. The desktop when downloading from the web is corrupt, and when receiving via FTP is corrupt.
can you transfer from the laptop to the desktop?
Thats what I was doing.
FTP is running on the desktop, and I FTPd it from the laptop.
when my fedora is start up
i saw one services is fial
i saw one services is fail
it is smartd
what is that?
odd. Not sure what could be going on. ;(
smartd is a daemon that monitors the SMART info on your hard drives. It can report when they are going bad or having errors or whatever. Not all drives are supported however.
can you try transfering it via ssh or rsync?
never used either.
I suppose I could learn. Haha.
learning is always good. rsync is very easy to use and handy. see the man page…
rfu_, keep the 'bad' dvd iso there (so it keeps using the same bad sectors), and ftp it AGAIN to another dir. could be that your desktop drive is going bad.
i am getting squares instead of fonts i should normally get… i am using fedora core 6 … anyone know how to fix this?
this would be for KDE desktop
I'll try that.
On one hand I hope you're right zcat. And on the other, bigger hand I hope you're wrong. Haha.
rfu join the torrent and point it at your dvd location and the torrent will repair the file
if i wanted to install gnome on a fedora box, what would i type?
yum install
yum install gnome ?
that doesnt appear to work
yum grouplist
why paste?
pste the output of yum grouplist to the pastebin
oh gotcha
i really need another varable to that script
found it… gnome-session
no
wow that is obvioius … not
do as i asked please
the following is a test please ignore
word brother
I think you may be right. Leaving the old ISO there, and re-FTPing it worked.
rfu_, ruh-roh
Which really sucks pretty bad. The drive is only around 7-8 months young!!!
rfu- bad packets happen
3-4 times on a LAN FTP Transfer?
yep they can
i would start looking for nicks in cables
there will be a big pile of 0's and 1's where the nicks are
ahaha
yes
cool
Southern_Gentlem, tcp corrects for bogus packets
if it can
not always
sometimes it just drops it
yeah
would seem unlikely that it would fail transfer several times, then work.
howdy all
tcameron, that my line
Southern_Gentlem - heh
y'all are not the only one from the South, sir
you might check /var/log/messages for any disk or network errors… also look at '/sbin/ifconfig' and see if there are errors or retransmits listed.
you might check /var/log/messages for any disk or network errors… also look at '/sbin/ifconfig' and see if there are errors or retransmits listed.
so I have a mirroring question for you
Shalom everyone ! I started getting these msgs (http://pastebin.com/m2f1776d3) and the system is far from stable. I've suspected the disk (Segate 20G) so moved to a new disk, but get the same error msgs. Help would be appreciated.
I have rsync'ed the trees for FC for ever, but now with the new directory structure changes I have been hesitant
I am up to date on FC5 and 6, 32 and 64 bit
also extras for those two distros and those two arches
might be cables? did you re-use the same cable? also might be the disk controller on your MB.
why are you mirroring EOL releases
how much bigger is the F7 Everything repo?
I will be dropping the FC5 stuff soon
nirik, Funny you ask, but yes, I've used another (new) cable with the new disk.
tcameron, figure core + extras
nirik, I've also moved the disk from the Primary to the secondary, but same msgs.
tcameron, figure core + extras= everything
FC6 I keep around cause the extras repo has a lot of yummy stuff that Just Works(TM) in RHEL 5
Everything is 56G
Southern_Gentlem - so do I need to mirror *only* Everything?
for all arches
Eliran_Itzhak, are you using a 40 wire IDE cable or an 80 wire…
tcameron, i would mirror everything and updates
in other words
http://pastebin.ca/644501 has the sizes of things under Everything.
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/7/Fedora/ and also http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/7/Everything/
do I want both of those, or only one or the other?
RX packets:6078671 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:3496055 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
Fedora is a subset of Everything.
kdekorte, Got me there. All I know is IDE cable, didn't know there are 2 types. anyway, the system started sending me these msgs without any provokation (so to speak) its a server that worked fine until this morning.
ah, OK
fedora is just was released on the dvd
I'd have to go so far as to say that I got no bad packets…
we ain't got no stinkin bad packets!!
rfu_, so check memory or harddrives
Eliran_Itzhak, the 80 wire is needed for ATA/66 mode. what is looks like is the driver is trying to find the fastest speed and then dropping back if it can't do it
thanks for the info, all, much appreciated.
I suspect the message is harmless, unless you are getting it hundreds of times
Alright. I'll be back in a bit.
80 pin EIDE cable has a blue end
kdekorte, Ok about the cable, I can try another one. I had no problems with this server until today.
Eliran_Itzhak, you may also need to tell Fedora to use the older IDE driver. I'm sure someone here has a pointer on how to do that
Did you upgrade your kernel?
kdekorte, by the "old" driver you mean the one that calls devices "hda" and NOT "sda" ?
kdekorte, The one from Fc6 ?
correct the older driver is the one that uses hdX over sdX
I don't think there is a way to go back to the old ide drivers without an old fc6 kernel… but I could be mistaken.
nirik, or custom kernel
can't you blacklist 'libata' and it will use the older driver?
kdekorte, dont think so
how is it going to boot in the first place
you are talking alot of things to change to even boot
ok, so another question about mirroring the repos
if I explode the DVD isos, is rsync smart enough to not overwrite the whole damned tree?
Fedora 6 loads and starts the install process on my laptop fine, however under Fedora 7, it doesn't read my DVD drive (Intel ICH8M chipset), is there a way around this?
if you put the files in the right place it should work…
k
jnanney , you may not have a thinkpad, but some of these note may apply http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_SATA_and_Linux
jnanney - what is the error you see?
Unable to find any devices of the type neede for this installation type Would you like to manually se;ect upir driver or use a driver disk?
the installation type I chose was local cdrom
did you try all-generic-ide irqpoll
at the install command line?
when the installer starts, you type:
linux all-generic-ide
or
linux all-generic-ide irqpoll
no, wasn't aware of that, lemme try this now
you might try 'noprobe' on the command line and then manually select the ata_piix driver and see if that has any luck.
k
jnanney - Google is your friend… http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Unable+to+find+any+devices+of+the+type+neede+for+this+installation+fedora+7&btnG=Google+Search
I have a redhat 9 manual/book…would it be likely I coudl put some of the stuff from it into use with fedora 7?
crap, rsyncing all the packages even though I exploded them off the CD
dammit
some of the general concepts might be the same… specific commands are unlikely to match up.
Okay, so after I backup the information that I want to keep from my NTFS drives, what's the best way to completely go from Vista to Fedora 7 without hiccups?
ah, I think I figured out why
I did cp -ru from the loopback-mounted ISO
instead of cp -a
zcat you around today?
3 of my fc6 systems fails to update via yum, anyone know how to fix it ?
did you "yum clean all"
nope, why?
would i need to..
how would we know how to fix it
you've provided us with no information other than "it doesn't work"
cargohold - a lot of times you can resolve weird yum stuff by cleaning the yum cache
since you've given no real info, I just figured you would like the sledge-hammer approach to repairing it
http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/misc/bugs_yum/Yum_Looptrix.txt
i think that might just me it.. thx, will test it iaw
no go on eitherall-generic-ide or the noprobe with ata-piix driver (or the ahci driver)
hrm
7, or a fresh install of 7. any advice on why I should do one or the other ? Will that many sequential in place upgrades take longer than a fresh install anyway ?
jnanney - do you have any other fedora linux boxes around you can use as an NFS server?
anyone really familliar with mdadm and software RAID?
CoffeeIV_ - fresh install is almost always preferred method
GreenJelly_Linux - sure, what's up?
I have a large post in paste bin at http://rafb.net/p/s6C3dr12.html with details and questions, which is a RAID based issue!
can you paste the yum run you are seeing the problem with? it's hard to say what the issue is without more info
ill test it asap and let the channel know how it went. I upgraded to fc7 on those 3 systems and the problem was solved though.
jnanney - try linux askmethod nodmraid all-ide-generic
didn't you get your raid working the other day?
CoffeeIV_, fresh install after backing up would be best
how can i provide nice debug for you ?
yeah, I'll load up my local server with Core 7 and try using http method
CoffeeIV_, take notes on customizations you make to the system
nirik yep… GOt the data, just a few little details I noticed on close expection of the array!….
cargohold, on those fc6 systems disable yum-updatesd service and do a yum clean all
run yum with say -d 5 and pastbin the results?
GreenJelly_Linux, so you didn't partition sde. you don't HAVE to,b ut it's a good idea.
tcameron - I gather that from web searching — does a yum upgrade take hours of downloads ? I have DSL, but I am thinking it may be faster to download FC7 cds and go from there
i have that disabled by default, testing it now
can you add 'cat /proc/mdstat' ?
nirik its clean..
ok, was looking for a –verbose or something… brb
CoffeeIV_ - I would go the DVD route (there are no CDs for F7, only DVDs)
nirik I mean nothings going on… the rebuild was done yestereday
tcameron - then I would have to buy a DVD burner
zcat, your saying fdisk sde?
CoffeeIV_ - not necessarily
zcat as Linux Auto Detect RAID
do you have a Linux box already up and running on your network?
you could use it as an install server
looks like http method next, askmethod nodmraid all-ide-generic failed too
jnanney - what kind of motherboard?
GreenJelly_Linux, you don't need to. and if you don't have a spare to sync to you'd be taking a chance while in degraded mode
[raid6] [raid5] [raid4]
active raid5 sdb1[0] sde[3] sdd1[2] sdc1[1]
1465151232 blocks level 5, 256k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/4] [UUUU]
it's a dell laptop intel board
paste bin?
jnanney - laptop model?
zcat what do you mean degraded mode?
Is there a way to make CDs for FC7 ? most of my servers have only CDROMS, not DVDROMS
Any good guides on how ot convert from Vista to F7?
GreenJelly_Linux, degrades as in running on 3 out of 4 drives in a raid5 set
degraded*
format vista partition, install fedora
bpat1434, what does that even mean?\
CoffeeIV_ - you can use the boot.iso file from (for instance) http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/ and do a network install
it is easy
zcat did you look at my pastebin, cause I have a feeling Im either using RAID-6 or that I am in degraded mode as it is
bpat1434 - what do you mean?
are there any good guides to help me along the way from Vista to Fedora 7 so I don't have any hiccups.
see above
are you looking for a table of apps on Linux which match up with what you use on Vista, or are you asking how to keep Vista but also use Fedora or what?
tcameron — thanks, I will probably do that
bpat1434 - you probably want to look at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/
How to properly get completely rid of Vista
there is a ton of good documentation there
format your vista partition
what you are asking is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too broad to be able to give you a real answer
GreenJelly_Linux, your paste SAYS raid5. and the total size will be the smallest drive * (Numberofdrives-1)
install linux
clean install
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
naturally back up any data you want to save like images of the dogs/kids, and your music collection, + anything else
yes yes, I know
zcat then I am not using sde
zcat for each drive is 500mb
my question was only because of yesterdays issues with GRUB not booting
zcat and I have 1000mb
did you make your partition when you didn't have sde in there?
brb
bpat1434 - would love to help but I have *no* idea what you are talking about
Array Size : 1465151232 (1397.28 GiB 1500.31 GB)
nirik no, but sde was damaged…
the array is the full size, but the filesystem on that /dev/md3 is the smaller size. You need to resize it, or reinstall it
GreenJelly_Linux, 500*(4-1) = 1500
GreenJelly_Linux - what did you do to create your partition? Did you use fdisk or parted?
zcat zcat df-h states "/dev/md3 903G 525G 331G 62% /home/Media"
GreenJelly_Linux - if you used fdisk you probably did not get the full partition size you could have
fdisk seems to choke on really large partitions
wait, never mind
GreenJelly_Linux, umount /home/Media; resize2fs /dev/md3; mount -a
tcameron this is a recovery of an array… I never re-fdisk the messed up drive…
right, just read that, hence my "wait never mind" statement.
zcat should I fdisk sde first?
GreenJelly_Linux, like i said, running in degraded mode is risky. lost one more drive and the array is gone.
I wound up blacklisting the iwl drivers, and installed the ipw ones for the 3945 card. it works perfectly now
GreenJelly_Linux, so, just leave it
I wanted to locate the problem so i skipped "yum clean all". Suprisingly its working now (Atleast downloading the packages)
k
glad you got it working, sorry you had to go back to the ipw… hopefully iwl will get working for you at some point.
might be you were hitting a broken mirror?
yeah, its all good though, its gonna be awesome when the iwl drivers get perfected
I got some mirrors that where unavailable but not all
ahh. rawhide and things actually started working
7 is like 3. should've skipped it
zcat I guess I dont understand why the df -h doesnt agree with a raid 5 array with 4 devices (500mb) and why sde is listed instead of sde1…. I can run that unmount, if that will fix the problem
zcat but ultimately I want 1500mb
I had some issues with yum before and the "db" where you had to set KERNEL_VERSION_DB= or something (you know what i mean) but this time it just seemed to be looping endlessly taking up all CPU power (could hardly move the mouse)
Maybe its a bug in yum when no mirrors can be used ?
odd. If it happens again let us assist you in gathering data for a bugreport.
i will let you know
okay… so zeroing the drives should be good enough right?
your /dev/md3 filesystem is not using all the size of your raid… see what zcat said above on how to resize it.
bpat1434 - what do you mean "zeroing the drives?" Using dd to overwrite the first couple blocks?
you can do that
or use badblocks -vfw
that will do it too
_llseek(11, 7503872, [7503872], SEEK_SET) = 0 (Means seek beginning of something, it did this over and over)
zcat I will be expanding this drive every few months or so… Therefore, I am prepared of the risks if fdisk sde as raid array, then rebuild… I feel I am probably in a degraded mode as it is, due to the data… but I am still learning how to interpret all of these reports… I have gotten this far… in addition, a mdadm -E /dev/md3 returns mdadm: No md superblock detected on /dev/md3.
no, I mean the drive zeroer from Western Digital (Data Lifeguard Tools)
nirik ok… will do…
"Write Zeros to Drive"
sorry had phone call and was distracted, laptop model: Dell Vostro 1500
no worries
you could remove sde and make a sde1 and add that, but if sde1 is the entire drive anyhow, it won't matter.
is newest line from dell, so I know I am going into uncharted territories
it's just odd that fc6 installer loads fine, but f7 installer doesn't
really?
hrm
I got the http load going, but will only do text based
fc6 goes graphical
well, that's what you want anyway
text based is ~ 30-40% faster
than GUI
GreenJelly_Linux, if you're going to be growing/reshaping the array every couple months you'll need do that resize2fs each time after.
jnanney - looking at the specs, wait 1
I cant unmount because its "online"
okies
can I do a online rebuild?
I tried to go: yum -y update on 3 different computers but all it did was read primary then consume all resources (On fc7 its fine now though)
GreenJelly_Linux, mdmadm /dev/md3 -f /dev/sde -r /dev/sde
I wont be home for a few days
updating the same computer now seems to be ok
odd. oh well.
GreenJelly_Linux, that fails then removes the drive from the array. you would do the same for a failing/failed a drive. after you partition it, add it back with -a /dev/sde1
GreenJelly_Linux, then cross your fingers and hope none the drives die before the resync completes
jnanney - and you say that FC 6 loads just fine?
the problem after getting in text based is with partitioning, runs into error with partitions, I may end up scrapping windows to try and get past that problem
yes, fc6 loads graphical installer just fine
well, does Windows own the whole disk?
and is it a dynamic disk?
cause if so, you're hosed
I used gparted to resize the windows partition to 1/2 the drive size
ah
do you know if Windows thinks it's a "dynamic disk?"
you can view it in disk administration
inside Windows
but fc6 installer and f7 installer choke on the partition
lemme check
boot into 'doze and see if it is dynamic
if it is you're hosed
why?
jnanney, because you need to reverse the polarity of /dev/null
http://rafb.net/p/sWEHgN30.html
GreenJelly_Linux, yeah? you're in degraded mode now. hurry up.
hehe… definately a fdisk job I guess…
Something makes it loop endlessly (thats for sure). Hmm, maybe if i install a new fc6 and test it again but ive gotta deal with a "local bug" in an app
jnanney - when Windows marks a partition as "dynamic" it is really just changing the partition table so that no other OS can play nice with it
I am assuming zcat is a bot
jnanney, tell me about your mother.
help
tcameron, index out of range
LOL
lots of dum dum pills being taken again i see
good idea to login to irc as root
ok, off the subject question. anybody here hafta share an office with someone else?
jnanney - so anyway, if the installer is barfing on partitioning, it might be that Windows has spewed it's proprietary shit on the partition table
there must have been a sale somewhere
language please
probably
that's a pretty verbose and highly technical explanation you have there
I'm just going to have to wipe windows to be sure
k
Command Not Found
"command not found?" A: Run the command AS ROOT after switching users with "su –login" or "su -" in order to get root's command PATH so the command WILL be found; don't run "su" by itself. If it's still not found, then either it's not installed in a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you've spelled it incorrectly.
ima gunna blacklist some people
I noticed another thing on one computer at work. If i had fc6 installed on it wintendoh xp installer refused to work. My guess is it tried to check installed oses and failed miserably (Gotta love it
lol
why?
opsec, because you need to reverse the polarity of /dev/null
cat it to urandom
the windows installer cannot do anything with the HD if it has any linux partitions
or wise versa
yeah, the xp installer is not very smart. It will also let you install to a external usb drive, and then fail to boot because it didn't install usb drivers.
therefore, the installer hangs up right aftr it says setup is detecting hardware
trust me it is more fun to just abuse zcat
jnanney - now that opsec is /ignored, moving on
hehehehehe
there's a simple solution for anyone having windows issues .. **don't use it**
me resists the temptation to abuse frozty_sa …
amen
Bwahaha, totally awsomely coded that pice of junk eh ?
I agree to what opsec said too
Booh!
i wasn't kidding.
abuse? /me acts like a windows user and installs an antivirus out of fear…
^^ ti's why I'm switching
gonna try to find an easy way to copy the partition off, cause another 12 hours reinstalling windows, then wipe the partition and try installing
oh wait….I run linux, no AV necessary!! 
why?
why people insist on using outdated software that interferes with your right to use your computer as you see fit is beyond me
some of us don't have that luxury opsec
We wouldnt be in this channel if we liked wintendohmofones (well some but they arent very smart
slavery, it's not just for africa anymore
haha
zcat, now this is probably not the smartest thing in the world to do, but can I use that drive as it rebuilds…
nice lines there
I know you weren't kidding. I really agree with what you said
GreenJelly_Linux, you can use the array as it rebuilds, sure
GreenJelly_Linux, would be kinda dumb to be stuck offline during rebuilds
windows is simply the modern digital equivalent to the slave ships of old
You can thank the US government for that one…. stupid billion dollar endorsement
employers that require windows is my biggest problem. I use a vmware windows install for most of my work, but some hardware doesn't translate through vmware well enough
I guess Im going to have to change my mdadm.conf… to be sde1 instead of sde….
jnanney - does the Linux installer see the disk as one big blob with no partitions?
or what?
it sees all the partitions, but says not enough free space
GreenJelly_Linux, your mdadm.conf should be using uuid's, not partitions
hrm, then that *probably* means that Windows has not "converted" the disk to dynamic
there is a 14MB free space blob before the ntfs partition and a 50GB Free Space after
so did you create a Linux partition in the free space?
it creates the swap partition fine, but chokes on creating an ext3 partition
saying not enough free space
with fc6 installer and with f7 installer
are you defining a specific size or saying to use all remaining space?
zcat cool!
tried both
The Debian people found a bug in one of my apps a month ago (local, lowrisk) still, I as in upstream wasnt informed!!! (Not a single email). This really bugs me right now *grr*
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