Foo(int bar) { if(…) this-bar = bar; }
Foo

New York is something to see. I'm in Philadelphia.. not nearly as exciting.
Enjoy

{cms_selflink dir="start" text="$sitename"} - does that code act as a global link to home?

Yep

sweet
oh bugger… our prison staff have gone on strike. Which means the army will be called in

what would you call software that is available online, such as google docs etc.?
or used online i should say
hosted software?

web based application

ahhh thanks!

thats the term I use with clients etc..
but dont know if thats a standard term

anyone got an idea to my problem?

There is a problem (I dunno if its my server or cmsms) with the rights given toimages I upload. The rights on the image are set to 664, and for the thumb on 640 :/ and the thumb has to be 644 as you know… How do I solve this problem.. so that it puts it automatically on 644 ?

is this a tomcat server hosting problem? or my cmsms version? is there a patch?
is this a http://www.oxxus.net/tomcat-hosting.htm">tomcat server hosting problem? or my cmsms version? is there a patch?
oops
I have CMSMS1.0.8
(sorry, I had numlock deactivated)

!–script src="../scripts/sifrcmd.js" type="text/javascript"/script–
can I do relative paths like that?

morning

Did you even look into the module manager script?

gmorning

morning
hmmm
none of my images are showing up since I cleareed the cache
none of the images set as css background anyway

cmsinfo forget upgrade

I forgot upgrade

cmsinfo upgrade is Take a *backup* of my db and files! Copy new files over my old files. Run install/upgrade.php. Enjoy! You should also go to Modules to see if any of the modules needs upgrade.

OK, reneh_work_.

cmsinfo move

move is clear cache, backup db, backup files, move files, restore db, edit config.php to reflect changes, clear cache

cmsinfo forget move

I forgot move

cmsinfo move is First check if you new server mmets the minimum requirements. So on from serever: clear cache, backup db, backup files. So move files to new server, restore db, edit config.php to reflect changes, clear cache.

OK, reneh_work_.

cmsinfo forget move

I forgot move

cmsinfo move is First check if your new server meets the minimum requirements. So on from server: clear cache, backup db, backup files. So move files to new server, restore db, edit config.php to reflect changes, clear cache.

OK, reneh_work_.

hmm
when I go to view html source in the wysiwyg editor
the html host I typed in earlier is no longer there
the http://www.oxxus.net">html host I typed in earlier is no longer there
http://myc-international.com/index.php?page=home - I've searched the css, and cant see why its not showing.

MYC International- Welcome (at myc-international.com)

what

an icon on the left hand side

The first image?

teaser1
yes

you probably have an error in your CSS

this site is suffering from Divitus

maybe a missing semi-colon?

yeah.. I'll go back and look again, but it all seems ok to me
and the image hosting is there

you have an extra ending semi-colon before the #teaser1 line
er not semi-colon
}

hmm… now thats not showing up here. Could be a caching issue
thanks savagekabbage - will rip the whole thing up
and paste in new

hi
I'd like to receive feedback from FormBuilder plugin via mail, but submitting the form ends with error, fsockopen() is not available. But, I can send mails without using this function. How to send mails?

pixelShooter, does the test email in CMSMailer work?
get that working first

right - now trying to write me own random quotes tag hehe
hmm
is it possible to use cmsms to generate a plain old text file?

sure
fopen, fwrite, fclose

so I could say use the wysiwyg editor to write the quotes
and then have them written to an external text file so that they can be used by the quote generating script I got?

I'm using User Defined Tags to pull content from an additional MySQL db.
How do use a UDT to make the title tag dynamic?

Sorry, missed those last few comments

fopen, fwrite, fclose

so I could say use the wysiwyg editor to write the quotes
and then have them written to an external text file so that they can be used by the quote generating script I got?

I'm using User Defined Tags to pull content from an additional php mysql web hosting db.
How do use a UDT to make the title tag dynamic?

is it possible to get a menu to automatically order itself alphabetically?

Bobson, yeah you could use the wysiwyg to write the quotes to write stuff to an external file

cool

you want all the menu items sorted alphabetically?

yes

there's a howto hon how to adjust the title dynamically in the forums, under tricks & tips (it's a sticky…. modifying your template from the page)

on the recruitment page - because it has to list all the companys alphabetically

Bobson, are all of the items on one level (i.e: it's not a hierarchical menu?
either way I think that that's a code change

yes
one level

thanks, I'll try the forums

I could possibly do it with javascript

calguy, did my outline make it over to you?

um… how would I make a template for a stright forward list navigation?
only one level
I know - I'll take the normal template and kill off all the classes

ted, feel free to nuke that post on the calendar….the guy is acting like he invented availability calendars
sorry

Bobson, yeah, and take out the 'if' and 'ifelses' and just use the default case

cool

Ive done that a dozen times already

um… I've taken all the ifelse and if out
but think i killed it
is there an example anywhere I can cut and paste?
would simple_navigation.tpl do… if so I deleted it

Just checked the Tips & Tricks Forum for dynamic title tags - How to include smarty in page title and men items? But not a lot of help.

I wish I had free time. I'd write the module out of spite.

they guy is being an ass….i have used his piece of junk and it doesnt do the things i need it to do. very weird dude…apologize if i stirred any hornets nests.
can you delete the thread?

I can. Is he still bothering you?

Ted, just delete it please. i will try to find someone through other means.

Yup

i posted the link for illustrative purposes, not with the intent to steal his code or anything….as his code does not offer the functionality that is needed.
again, apologize if he is giving you any shit ted.

johnbow… set a variable using $smarty-assign from your UDT, call your UDT in the head section, above where the title is output, and just use {$myvar} instead of {title}

Not a problem

k

I see he went through the trouble of registering to post a comment.
deleted

Thanks. I'll give it a try.

yes, and his "tracking software" helped him sniff me out…lol - when all he needed to do was click my profile link to get my email host addy (which i have now hidden, as I imagine he will forget it soon)

Well, if he's only getting enough hits that he can follow every one… well…
Again, I still feel it was free advertising. But he apparently doesn't get that.
uAgain, I still feel it was free advertising. But he apparently doesn't get that./u

Hi kids

is it possible to have subpages off content pages?
Ah - you can… but its called a different thing, hence my confusion
How can I make is so that a nav item only appears in one menu
brb

Give the page alias a prefix and then use the {menu} tag's options to not show in one template but to show in another

Ted… I got started on the module manager script but got called away and never got back to it
I fixed listmodules last night btw

quick one, setting up firewall… Module Manager uses port 80 right?

uj
um
how do I hide a menu item from one menu and not the other?

You could probably accomplish it by playing with the menu tag parameters like number of levels, and start level, or going into the menu template

trouble is.. I have a link to the main page across the top
when on that page another logo should then appear

actually just use the excludeprefix parameter

whats that?

go to menu manager and click help

k

there's a bunch of different things you can add to the menu tag

ok - what if I want pop ups to appear on some menus, but not on others?

You'd probably have to go into the menu template

hmm.. wish I knew php
right
I can use the exclude
gonna work out how to use it
best I use the include prefix
as I have potentially hundreds to exclude

when I call {search} tag there is label for what says Search, after the label is :  - if I want to get rid of Search word I just hide it with css, but becase :
  is not in the label I cannot hid it… How can I get rid of it?

wrap it in a class?

http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1224

:  is just right after the label and all its in div#search, but I have no idea how to hide it.

thats a hard space aint it?

and space

right

thing

um.. you could use some javascript to find the element within
and kill it

blah

but it would still be there - just wouldnt be displayed by the browser
http://docs.jquery.com/DOM/Manipulation#remove.28_expr_.29

API/1.1.2/DOM/Manipulation - jQuery javascript host Library (at docs.jquery.com)

I ment if there some nice parameter for {search} tag that the label woun't be there or if it's possible to hide it in css…

ah
well you could maybe do a text-indent: -5000px or something to hide it off screen

isn't there a template for the search box?

and then do a text-indent 0 to bring the
ah
I think there is
with page alias, can several pages all have the same alias?

if there is I'm stupid enough to not find it…

Search Template

Bobson, no each page has to have a unique alias, however you can prefix them with something, then use the includeprefix or excludeprefix arguments to the menu tag

OK I'm stupid enough
thanks

calguy
so I could have something like
page alias
tesco.cst
and bbc.cst
and anything with cst would be hidden?

..cst is a suffix
cst.tesco would be a prefix

right
ok
so I need to do cst.tesco
ta

Your url would then be (if you use pretty urls) http://foo.com/bar/tsc.tesco/
Erm, cst

yes
hehe
ok
I found some code that will list everything that will list the navigation that comes from a page
however, I'd like it so that when I click on a link from within that page I still get all the links showing that come from the main page
Ok
http://wiki.cmsmadesimple.org/index.php/User_Handbook/Admin_Panel/Layout/Menu_Manager

User Handbook/Admin Panel/Layout/Menu Manager - CMSMS (at wiki.cmsmadesimple.org)

I've followed the instructions as per the
Generic sub-menu
however,
its not working for me
http://myc-international.com/index.php?page=graduate-recruitment - I get the list

MYC International- Graduate Recruitment (at myc-international.com)

yet when you click on say tescos
it goes to the tesco page
but none of the links apoear
{hierarchy}
{cms_module module='menumanager' start_element=$h_parent template='myc_side_menu' collapse='0'}
thats the code I'm calling to get the menu
ah
tis a bug in my template

whew….. debugging MM stuff can get ugly remotely

MM?
wow - sitepusher - is that to enable quick re-deployment

Yeah
MM == MenuManager

wow
ah - a new MM?

no, there's no you lost me, I said 'debugging MenuManager stuff can get ugly remotely' after you said it was a bug in your template

ah
yes
lol sorry
another question
is there a way of forcing page to automatically belong to a certain menu when a page template is selected for it?
bis there a way of forcing page to automatically belong to a certain menu when a page template is selected for it?/b

Bobson, how do you mean…. Pages are attached to templates….. and pages are organized in a hierarchy….. menus aren't built manually theiir built from a subset of the hierarchy

ie

it has been said that ie is non standards-compliant, buggy, evil little browser. a pox on it.

calguy - yes. Sorry
what I mean is
say for example I've a section heading called BLAH
and I want all pages wich use template ECHO
to be under the BLAH pop up
is there an automatic way to get all ECHO templates to do that?

ah, no currently there isn't….. there's no way to request a list of all pages using a particular template from MM

ok

what I would do though, is adjust the alias of all of those pages
i.e: prefix them with echo_
then you can use includeprefix='echo_' in the menu tag

Ah!
it would mean editing the alias of each page, but it will certainly do for now
http://myc-international.com/index.php?page=graduate-recruitment - this is what I have

MYC International- Graduate Recruitment (at myc-international.com)

all the links appearing arse end
it works

well, I spoke too soon about my Rails setup working. I was having problems with memcache, even though it's not enabled for development. Very confusing.
I think I just need to build/install the whole Rails infrastructrue from scratch, and forget about using Locomotive

That would be my suggestion
Though, it seems weird that it doesn't work if it's turned off
You have memcache-client installed?

I think so

um… how long would it take someone to write a menu template, and how much would they charge?

depends a lot on how complicated it work be
would be

http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1225

http://myc-international.com/index.php?page=graduate-recruitment

MYC International- Graduate Recruitment (at myc-international.com)

I just want those in a straight list
see the ones on the bottom

http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1226

Locomotive claims to bundle a lot of stuff, but I can't see the processes running, and the documentation is nonexistant for Locomotive

I dont want the 6.2 etc

that'd be simple CSS

to remove the 6.2 with css?
ok cool
I know css

and to lay it out

why the hell IE has 5 more pixels down to div header… if header and h1 header is same height and width

I've had to put a div id=header, with an H1 in it due to IE too..
its divitus at its worst

start with a ".currentpage li {display: inline;}" or something

_SJG_ - already on it

throw in a .currentpage dfn {display:none;}
and you're pretty much theer

using ff web dev extension to find out which classes are used
cheers sjg

Exactly what I'd recommend
np

haha
sorry - the news is on
they are on about bringing troops back from iraq to send them to afghanistan
but they are on about the debreifing
they make it sound like a holiday camp..
typical army pr bollocks
reason why they have the debreifing is cos most guys in the field end up with mental health problems
that need to be treated before they are allowed back into "normal" society
else someone pisses them off in a bar, and their instinct is to kill them

Bunch of hired killers

basically yes

Where in blighty are you Bobson?

and an army is needed - just we're fighting some stupid battles.. pointless
I'm currently in Notts
but originally from the south east wales. Dont have an accent tho

Currently? You move about a bit then

yep

Ah

well… got head hunted for a job
apparently I'm quite good at design…

Born in Worcestershire and still stuck in Worcestershire

how do you find it?

Erm, I open my front door…

I only took the job cos the gf moved up here - but now shes made me homeless haha

Hehe

ok - I asked for that one

You can have a style sheet just for ie if you need to
Oh dear

oh yeah - the conditional comment

Worcestershire is okay except for the flodding

trouble is - if you need to add extra markup for ie, you cant do conditional for that
yes… the flooding was evil
I just missed it up here
I'm on the notts / lincs border
but you guys got it real bad
did you loose much?

I know… but I cannot force IE to make 0 padding on h1 a

!–[if lt IE7]foo that only IE6 will see![endif]–
How come?
h1 a { padding: 0; }

that's only for ie7 not 6 I belive

works for me

no no - if lt

there are pastebin post above

means if less than
so if less than IE7
which means 6 and below
if IE7 means IE7 only

sorry I missed lt

!–[if IE]…

and then use cleanish css for IE 7 and hacks for 6 and 5 and so on

I lost my car

bugger!

Which I managed to replace only recently

insurance companies behaving themsleves
ah
good

Took Directline a month to give me money

I start to belive that there are some different codes for IE in different language…

Humm?
The car I have now cost about a grand less than my last one, and it feels like it at times

directline… I just renewed with them. £500 for my GTi - which I thought was pretty good.

Ho-humm
Must think of it as a stop-gap

really?
bloody hell! would they not let you haggle?

500 on a GTi, nice one
I did and got about 300 quid more

they are bastards arnt they

That's insurance for you

I'm kinda glad I ended up buying the gap insurance when I bought my car

Another company would have done the same

yep
although, I expect they will kill gap insuracne when everyone deliberatly smashes their cars up

kino_, good wine?
gap?

yeah
when you buy a new car you can get gap insurance

It's almost 7 and I'm still at work, hummmm

which is basically insurance against the insurance company

New as in brand new?
Heh

so if the web hosting company in three years time only gives me £8k for my car
I can get the rest off the gap insurance
yes as in brand new

Oh
Erk

so I can then go out and buy another brand new car

I'm a 2nd hand bloke

me too.. I went out for an old Renault Clio
ended up in the VW garage
was with a mate
and before I new it..

Had your map upside down?

yep

Doh

I made the mistake of test driving it
blew some boy racers away at the traffic lights
got a bit of a buzz
it was also christmas
and I got 3k off the list price cos the dude needed to make a sale

Which means a 4k markup
Nice

indeed
its got heated leather seats..
before I bought this I was driving an L reg, 1998 Corsa

I got quite perticular about the car I wanted. To get a replacement I had to go to north wales

ouch!
to Goggland
what did you get?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/1173947513/

I've got a brand new combine harvister en Flickr: ¡Intercambio de fotos! (at www.flickr.com)

What the heck?
What happened to English@?

He has a Spanish flare

406 estate?

Aye

diesel?

Yep
HDi

good engines on those things

Indeed. Same as the one I lost

hey dude your stering wheel is on wrong side…

infact - my mates and I were planning to do the Plymouth Dakar rally (a piss take of the Paris Dakar rally - your car must cost no more than £100)

Except the one I lost was silver, had 20bhp more, etc etc

we were gonna use a 406 estate

that's us crazy brits

yeah - its the little extras

http://gallery.kinovic.cz/displayimage-10-1.html

a 406 would be great acorss the desert

mine…

Galerie - Fiesta/Takhle vypadala nkolik dní pYedtím ne~ ala do laku. (at gallery.kinovic.cz)
Galerie - Fiesta/Takhle vypadala nkolik dní pYedtím ne~ ala do laku. (at gallery.kinovic.cz)

100 quid for a 406?

bossbot doesn't like UTF8

Error: "doesn't" is not a valid command.

http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/V/volkswagen/polo/03-large/06-gti-f3q-f.jpg - mine, but in "silver bird"
bigcalm - an old 406
fixer upper

Sporty

the turbo rocks

I'd take the new GTi too… but out of my money range…

my carbon footprint is through the roof, and it costs me £40 a week in fuel
umy carbon footprint is through the roof, and it costs me £40 a week in fuel/u
and now I got to buy a house…
so will probably have to sell it

I managed 1000 miles around France on one tank of fuel in the last car

should have really bought the house 1st..
on one tank - now thats amazing!

I just bought small apartment in our capital… takes some money…

70l tank mind

I'm lucky if I get 200 miles out of mine

Humm, my mistake

701 tank?

I think
70L

Ah lol
I think mines 45L
but even so
its thirsty
too thirsty

It might have been a little less, but half way though the trip I looked at the trip counter - it said 500miles and my fuel guage said 1/2

I can believe it
French diesel engines are incredible

If only we had their fuel prices…

if only we all got Teslas..
http://www.teslamotors.com/

Tesla Motors (at www.teslamotors.com)

Humm?

electric mate
and totally screaming

Ah, I was about to say

less than a penny a mile
lotus engineered body

Tesla coils…

4 seconds to 60
runs off the mains
about 90$us

That's a long extension cord

hehe

90bucks for a car?
I'm in!

bit expensive..
but, its in the league of porche et al
aimed at ppl with cash

Did you miss a k from your price?

yeah
that too

:P

about £48k

Yep, a little pricey

how many pillocks buy chelsea tractors for that much tho?

do you guys see any TVRs over there?

TVR's…. when they dont break down

One or two

lol

heh

Humm, I haven't seen Top Gear for some time

i had a 1980 280i before, but I think that was the last year they were imported to the states :-p

Like Alphas… they always break down. But I'd still love one!

Alphas are beautiful cars

woohoo, mysql test works

indeed

Despite my thinking that cars are ugly in general

calguy1000_ - cool

Morgans are good

in general yeah
a morgan hehe - My grandad had one of those

Made in Malvern
About 10 mins from where I work

My mum used to have an MGB-GT - she said she got off all kinds of speeding tickets when she was young
short skirts, and acting all innocent. The police always let her off

Tsk tsk

now shes fat and 60
it no longer works

My god, I could never imagine my mother like that…
Hehe

neither could I
It seems she was a bit of a goer in her youth

I could imagine somebody else's mother like that though

yet she married a vicar..

o.O

hehe

6 car
I see the connection

hehe
I think we've all got a bit to politically correct
The police would arrest you now for trying to get off a speeding ticket with a short skirt
particularly if you're a bloke

LOL

I just specced a tesla out for shits and giggles…
$104,450
ouch
gonna buy a lottery ticket tonight

Buy 2
Think of the insurance

could you get insured?
there is nowt else like it in the uk
it would basically be a repalcement in any crash
some pillock on the one show from America, he's going on about how moustache'd ppl are discriminated agains
this is a joke?
he says hes a "revolutionary bringing the moustache back in fashion" - hes taking the piss aint it?
this cant be real
yep
although - they have a dude from the british moustache society, and he's chatting up the ladies
with it
American women..
hmm..
sorry - wrong window

I have a feeling that I should go home and feed my cat

to the dog?

:|

later
I have to go

Have fun

How can I get the parent page to always appear
in the list?

Call the menu tag with the parent as the first
And make sure you don't use the show_child_siblings part

ok
um…

And if you weren't before, still don't.

{cms_module module='menumanager' start_element=$h_parent collapse='0'}
thats what I've been using

So the parent should always be showing….
At least in theory.

ok
http://myc-international.com/index.php?page=graduate-recruitment

MYC International- Graduate Recruitment (at myc-international.com)

not here
I know css is killing it
hang on..
ok
its still dead… hmm

Not sure what I'm looking at

right
on the right hand side
there should be a list of pages

Oh, not in Safari.
There it is. nm
shift-refresh

just killed the styles
now the top should say "graduate recruitment"
click on tesco
and grad recruit appears
I'm using that hirearchy custom tag thing

Oh, but it's not showing itself when it needs to…

yes

Actually, yes it is
The text is white.

CRAP
so basic
I'm sorry…

No problem

is that an embedded style?

..currentpage

bah

li class="currentpage"h3dfnCurrent page is 6: /dfnGraduate Recruitment/h3

hehe
will fix it now
ta

lol

hmm… I've put in
#side ul li.currentpage {#000 !important;} - nowt works..
CRAP
damn
damn
DOH

Bad choice of words there, reneh

..currentpage {color: #000 !important;} - still nothing

Ah, menus
Such fun things to style

indeed

It took me 5 client rollouts before I really understood it

I've stuck it at the bottom of the style sheet too
so should anything kill it above
the important will undo it
and its below the cascade

You'd think so, but…
Have you got web dev tool bar install for ff?

yes
using it…
no avail

shift ctrl y
See what order the styles are being cascaded as

yeah - already had that up..

You might be missing h3 or something

its soo odd
ah..
nada
hmmm
right gonna go look inside

How about your ul and li s?

they seem ok
gonna go back through it one by one..
wont let this beat me
its cos of the dfn
nope
li class="currentpage"h3dfnCurrent page is 6: /dfnGraduate Recruitment/h3
so where is that white coming from?

whoops, we had the wrong Morten Poulsen for the Google documents…. :-/
good evening btw

Hi westis

hi calguy1000_
Silmarillion has probably not got most of the documents we've shared….

what documents?

#menu ul li h3 { color: #000; }

right

I have the ones about organization

If it's on the 2nd level then
#menu ul ul li h3 { color: #000; }
And so on

we'd shared with mortenpaulsen instead of mortenpoulsen. I'm sharing all now

bigcalm - aye

aah, cool
did the other one contribute? ;_)

hi all

still odd stuff..

don't think so…. Tried to invite him to all the teams, but no….

i want an event calender in cms….any suggestions?

Sod it, I'm going home

hehe
coffin, calendar module?

yes
but i need a full fledged event calander

don't think we have other than that… what functions does it lack?

by default currentpage is set to white
and I cant find where that is being set

with options to add,modify and delete events and view them like web calander
and add notifications on events like that
is it there?

no notifications… You can add modify and delete events, and present them the way you'd like using templates

hmm
how difficult is to integrate web calender to cms?
i mean can i use php

use php? well, whole cmsms is made in php, so you should be able to

how can i make a php services page
how can i make a http://www.oxxus.net">php services page

Enable the php tags in your config.php
Then you can do stuff like {php} echo "Hi"; {/php}

in content pages?

yep
Ted… what would be a simple painless, and quickk way of validating an install

list of md5 sums

yeah, a soap request to get one

thanks

er generate one
and a soap request to pull it down
generate one locally
compare
and hmmm, I need a mechanism to put missing files

I cant get this bloody current thing to style
is there an embedded style for .currentpage somehwere?
which menu template is used by default?

cssmenu is the default one

ok
so if I edit that

Don't use any of our stylesheets if you don't need them
That'll just confuse you

hehe
I am already
I just want to get the side menu working
I do pure css pop up menus every day in work
I trouble shoot and fix other ppls buggy code… yet I'm unable to see whats wrong with my own…
arrgghh!!
:P
right - I've gone and messed with the code
http://myc-international.com/index.php?page=graduate-recruitment - works

MYC International- Graduate Recruitment (at myc-international.com)

I'll tak e aloook, whats the issue?

just want the top item to always be present
right hand nav
stripping a line out of all those if elsif things worked
li class="currentone"dfnCurrent page is {$node-hierarchy}: /dfn{$node-menutext}
I renamed it current one
and killed the h3

u dont even need to mess with the template

~I tried css - but it wouldnt budge
dont know why
must be something rogue in there

dont you just need a start_level="2" ?

Ideally Id like it so that the top level is in an h3 tag on its own
yes - basically
I've used the hirearchy custom tag

so put that in the menu tag

that was in the wiki
hierarchy
global $gCms;
$pos = $gCms-variables['position'];
$base = explode('.', $pos);
$smarty-assign('h_toplevel', $base[0] * 1);

1) ? count($base)-2 : 0 ] * 1);

$smarty-assign('h_this', $base[count($base)-1] * 1);
and I'm calling it with:
{cms_module module='menumanager' start_element=$h_parent template='side_menu' collapse='0'}

dude, this is CMS Made SIMPLE… one sec

hehe.. ok thanks

Something like {ment start_level="2" collapse="1"} should do what you described… without touching the template

ok
where do I stick that?

replace your {cms_module mess with it

{hierarchy}
{cms_module module='menumanager' start_element=$h_parent template='side_menu' collapse='0'}
lose that for

yeah, give it a sho
t

{ment start_level="2" collapse="1"}
what does ment mean?
nothing
I mean
it does nothing

add template="whatever" inside of it

{ment start_level="2" template='whatever' collapse="1"}

printing - . (rev: 11) silmarillion:

sure, but then you'd need to create a template in the menu manager named whatever

ok
will call it something I got already
http://myc-international.com/index.php?page=graduate-recruitment - nowt

MYC International- Graduate Recruitment (at myc-international.com)

hi gang - is there a reliable procedure for moving a CMS Made Simple website from one server to another?

added old code back in now to try and paste your code back in again
yes seafdamon_forum
update
damn
how do you get that bot to speak

I think a module is in the works, but right now I think you have to manually copy everything over.
update

sorry…

I've done that and I'm not able to get the database to reinstall

move?

move is, like, First check if my new server hosting meets the minimum requirements. So on from server: clear cache, backup db, backup files. So move files to new server, restore db, edit config.php to reflect changes, clear cache

is there a CMSMS-preferred procedure for "restore database?"

I use 'mysql database host backup.sql'

I'll look for that - thanks.

hey cal i'm trying to im you

you have to im your bf?
and you're cool with that?
wow

yup cause he's at work and i'm at home

ah
lol

oh ya

mine hated computers..

i'm on mine just about as much as he's on his if not more so

although the batteries were always dead in GP2X.. she kept using it while I was in work.

aahhh i like me desk top
it does the jobs i need it to do

Next gf is gonna like computers, speak two languages, and be much, much prettier. I'm going for an upgrade.

is there such a thing lolol

well..
nope
thinking about it.

lolol

Will have to impress them with the car…

time for a question about FLVPlayer module?

cals gotta register this new nick hehehe

actually, my mate Pete's gf is into computers - but shes really fat and ginger.
not that there is anything wrong with being fat and ginger

bbiab gotta deal with kids

if there are any fat ginger ppl here
um.. someone loves you I'm sure
failing that, there is a treadmill and hair dye

ginger

what?

orange hair

ah, gotcha

hehe

I have categories like Kultur & nöje. But when it seems it is saved as Kultur & nöje. And when I click the category it says "Invalid/unknown parameter : genre = Kultur & nöje

I created a custom tag- the hireacrhy one that I pulled off the wiki
{hierarchy}
{cms_module module='menumanager' start_element=$h_parent template='side_menu' collapse='0'}
do I need to type }hirearchy} first followed by the module call?

hey DeeEye!

printing - / (rev: 12) silmarillion: Stupid sil. didn't understand the restrictunknownparams… caused quite some gray hairs…

If I am using {$smarty.get.agent} how would I turn the into a variable
{assign var name='agent" value={smarty.get.agent}}?

SHIT
Sifr was causing me gip

is there anybody who can recommend a cheaper (preferably free) time tracking software that can track projects (at least up to 10 active projects) and with time estimates for a project, so that one can see how many hours are left for a project?

um… nothing that can handle 10..
have you tried using basecamp
ah - thats not free..

http://www.achievo.org/wiki/Achievo

Achievo - Achievo/ATK Wiki (at www.achievo.org)

not the bes UI but very functional

Tick is great, but a bit expensive for many projects… I guess it's similar to Basecamp, which is even more expensive

there was an app I used to use on the Amiga
but thats a bit pointless

indeed not very beautiful, but I'll check it out

hmm how can I write some code that says "this is the current page, and its also the parent page"

I haven't really got into it but it seems like it works well

make 'developers' 'module development' and create a new one 'for web developers'
i see it as two very different things
i had created a process map of for installing and customizing for clients, was going to post it, but couldn't really find the most appropriate place
meaning the process which i follow when setting it up for client site production

http://myc-international.com/index.php?page=graduate-recruitment

MYC International- Graduate Recruitment (at myc-international.com)

this is almost there
however I'd like the first level wrapped in h3 tag

sounds useful. Maybe post it in the wiki?

when you click on tesco link the desired effect is achived

well, it may not suit everyones needs, but i mapped out my process…

I think that the more info that's out there, the better

I'm not loving this menu..

i will go post it and some of you can take a look and remove if you desire

hmm, is svn.cmsms down?

I'm getting through.

trying to use advanced selectors to just affect the first item in the list
blooming cross browser probs..

here it is if anyone would like to take a look, feel free to delete if you feel it is not in line with what you all are trying to accomplish….i had just created it, and though someone may find it useful
http://wiki.cmsmadesimple.org/index.php/Image:CMS_Made_Simple_Install_and_Modification.gif

Image:CMS Made Simple Install and Modification.gif - CMSMS (at wiki.cmsmadesimple.org)

does ff not get first child selectors?

looks cool. What tool did you create it in?

is there a particular reason the cms image classes do not support chained operations?

mindjet
i can tweak some, as it is a bit vague in some areas….and can upload in different formats if someone would find it useful
could drop the cms logo in the middle of it as well

Looks pretty cool to me.
Most of the image stuff is just part of the ImageManager code, which comes from a separate project

thanks, i will make some modifications to it and post another version

how do I append a var to a string
{if entry-type == 'DispositionEmail' && entry-name == "agent$id"}
U want to do some thing like this

I'd first assign that to a variable, and then compare to the variable, e.g.,

{if entry-type == 'DispositionEmail' && entry-name == "agent".$id} is it like php?

Nice, Mind Manager.

{assign var='agentstring' value=`"agent" + $id`}
or soemthing like that

cool thanks _SjG_:

the syntax may be slightly off, but if you play aorund you can probably get it to work

Hurrahh!! It works

woohoo, file put works great…. with logging, now just to do the mysqldump, mysqlrestore stages…. then I can try soap

I so owe your boss a beer.

has his boss let him do this?
his boss sounds better than mine
seriously tho.. when I get more freelance stuff in
I wont give a deadline
sorry
commit to one till I've spoken with you guys
if I can fund CMSMS dev, and Cal can do it in work hehe
its a win win for everyone

sounds good to me

I just need to find a fan that's also independently wealthy. l(
I just need to find a fan that's also independently wealthy. l(

hehe
well I was.. till she kicked me out
now I got to buy a house
bang go all my savings

Yeah, a Brit is good. I'm cheap labour.

hehe
you are at the moment
its insane - our taxes are through the roof
I was discussing this with a mate of mine who lives in vegas
I told him how much I earnt
and well - I'd be taking home almost double if I lived in vegas
double after tax that is
cos you're taxes are so low
our petrol costs us… well its usually 95p a litre
so thats gonna be - $1.90
a litre
your gallons are different, but its roughly 3 litres to a gallon
so its $5.70 a gallon
it costs me $76 to fill my car up in the uk
and it cost him $15
to fill his
rip off britain

Yeah, it's insane. But we also get paid in US dollars.

sure

So as long as you can telecommute, then you're set.

its a weaker currency - but it goes further out there

That's the kind of deal I want to work out

indeed
and it works for me as well
cos you're cheaper than getting another brit to do a job

Pay me £40k and I'll be living the life.

hehe
pay me 40K and the government steals half of it
and hands it out to those who abuse our once great welfare system

That sounds familiar

lazy bastards who blame immigrants for their umemployment - when the fact is they are too damn lazy to get off their arse to work. Really annoys me - I've a cousin like it
a 40 year old bum
chip on his shoulder
bone idle

I love it when people feel that it's their obligation
Drives me batshit insane

its a safety net - its to protect you when you fall, not keep you for live
yes
I'm getting wound up now thinking about his fat lazy arse
in front of a wide screen tv
he's got 6 children by several different mothers too
no responsibility

Now I'm getting wound up…. *sigh*

when my grandfather died he came over trying to get stuff

I am using Form Builder to build an email form. Is there an easy way to have a checkbox that allows users to choose to have a copy of their submission sent to them?

not really. It'd be easy to have a field where they put their email address, and have them automatically receive it, but hard to make it conditional.

oh… bloody notherners complaining that the olympics are in london, and they wont see the benefit of it….

Although you could hack the "send to user-supplied email address" disposition to add a checkbox

I hate the north. So grim up here..
sorry - am really wound up now. Some punks actually came up to me once with baseball bats asking me if I was polish..
stupid benefit scabbing ppl.
polish ppl work their arses off

I want the From/To to be reversed in the case of the email sent to the user
so I guess I need to be a bit cleverer

That's going to be a bit tougher

Think it's a common enough feature for me to add it as a field option and submit a patch?

Formbuilder, at this point, needs a turing-complete language for people to specify behaviors. Maybe I'l hack in a Javascript interpreter

thats the nav sorted

sure
and the swapping of To/From might be possible in there as well

indeed
what's wrong with PHP? (don't answer that)

Question…. If I have a mysqldump file can I just open a mysql connection and feed it everything in one query?

while I'm asking questions and people are answering
why do all the Create[FormElement] functions take an id and a name parameter, and then do something completely unexpected with them?

oooh. A PHP interpreter. I should embed that too

If it has ;, then yes

short answer: because the API evolved.
next version will be cleaner

good good

Ted…. so how much data can I throw into one mysql_query command?

No idear

if you need to ask, you're doing it wrong?

how do I append a var inside a smarty string
like this {if $entry-name == "agent"+$id && $entry-type=="*Email Results to set Address(es)"}

FormBuilder appears to get its rows and cols the wrong way around too

bbiab

bbonora…. I think you have to do an assign to a temporary first.

I have done that

{capture assign='testvar'}agent{$id}{/capture} will work

{assign var="agent" value=$smarty.get.agent}
okay
so it would be like this

omg ted
Pitbull is intense ^^

where

google…. it works quite well…. just need to find a convenient way to import things

you must be using 0.3.something
the rows/cols was fixed in 0.4
I'm supposed to be doing something else right now, but I'm playing with Rails/Forge

ah yes

What version of Rails are you running? I'm wondering in the memcache client installed by Locomotive is somehow incompatible with the implementation
and in the upgrade, it even makes sure to keep the aspect ratio you had before
crap crap crap. Not enough disk space on my Mac to install developer tools, so now I can't use MacPorts
I need to upgrade that puppy

how would I exclude a specific type in FB
in the template

exclude it? As in, hide the field?
it'll be hard if the field has validation

yeah

or is required

no its and email to specific address field

but otherwise, you could just put conditionals around it
Isn't that a required field?

Barkley:~/work/werner_projects/domains/smart tedkulp$ rails -v
Rails 1.2.3

I want to exclude all of one type of field unless it is named a given name

thanks. This has me very confused. It's throwing an error: "protected method `send' called for #MemCache:0×3622a70"

memcache-client (1.2.0) ?

so something like: after the {foreach from=$fields item=entry} there's a conditional that's
{if $entry-display == 1}
I'd add to that — {if $entry-display == 1 || $entry-type=='my_hidden_type'}
le me see what's in Locomotive …

will this work
{if $entry-name == $agentEmail && $entry-type=="*Email Results to set Address(es)"}
{$entry-input}
{elseif $entry-type=="*Email Results to set Address(es)" }
don't print these
{/if}

yes, but you'll get all the label stuff, possible divs, etc.
Locomotive supposedly includes memcache-client 1.0.3, memcached 1.1.11

basically I need to exclude all Email Results to set Address(es) fields unless they have that name

but I can't see the processes running in process viewer
I wish they had better documentation

Okay…. so sqldump works, it's getting uploaded to the remote server, next technical issue is how to restore the mysqldump into the database
bOkay…. so sqldump works, it's getting uploaded to the remote server, next technical issue is how to restore the mysqldump into the database/b
I'll put that off for now, and just generate a new config.php (somehow)
oh that's easy

ted, just read back….just got an email from MindJet wanting to know more about how i use their product for office 2.0 conference
im going to send them the process map sample and will put your logo in there, she said she is looking for sample uses for their presentation
i writtend a blog post this morning about using it
written, lol
calguy, did you receive the outline i sent over?

Awesome. Thanks.
Sorry that it's being a pain

right
I'm off to bed now
byeeeeee
(and thanks for all your help)

Pat, I haven't checked my mail today (I'm at the office)

np, not trying to be a pain in the ass, just have had mail server issues

I might've did a little premature optimization.

well, it's almost certainly my configuration… just have to figure out how to get it working

Does locomotive give you gem access?
Or are you stuck with what they give you?

you do have access, I think
but I'm thinking I need to do radical reoganization, do the MacPorts thing, etc

Can you install the dev tools without xcode and all the documenation
?

maybe

Just to get gcc and friends?

not sure
I need to wipe a bunch of disk space first, either way

anybody want to write me something that'll import a mysqldump into mysql in pure php?

my work is cut out for me tonight
bbiaf

calguy1000_, get phpMyAdmin to do it for you.
Or do you mean some sort of generic classy functiony thing?
ohhh…aaaahhh

sitepusher - / (rev: 1) calguy1000: Initial creation of root directories.
sitepusher - trunk (rev: 2) calguy1000: Initial import. Not ready for prime time.

That man is a module-making machine.

have you ever got an image to appear in radio group within FB

Does the dump have ; in it?

it's pretty simple to do with a state matchine
*machine

When creating a content page, I can select a couple of fonts, how do I add a font that I have on my pc to that list?
bWhen creating a content page, I can select a couple of fonts, how do I add a font that I have on my pc to that list?/b

Okay, tonite rather than working on the module manager script
Hmmm, does anybody have a login to svntest.cmsmadesimple.org
good, I think something needs an upgrade, which results in a redirect to login.php whchi is why my wget won't work

one sec

gach, how many times and how many ways can one say RTFM
the smarty one.

Nothing needed upgrades

strange
there's no permissions check in the action I'm calling
but I'm gonna eat….

ok

bbonora, I think you'll find that any HTML gets stripped with a function.

i can't find tag options help for the {menu} tag? all i can find is this http://wiki.cmsmadesimple.org/index.php/User_Handbook/Admin_Panel/Layout/Menu_Manager

User Handbook/Admin Panel/Layout/Menu Manager - CMSMS (at wiki.cmsmadesimple.org)

is there anyway around it

anyone know where i can find a help page?

efix:
which one do you need
the help doc on the mm is pretty good

menu manger"

there is a 'start_element' option for the {menu} tag but no 'stop_element'? or am I missing something?
I am trying to split my menu into 2 menus

thats pretty easy
if you look at the help doc there is all kinds of ways to limit what is shown

the only one I see that would work is ' items="contact,home" ', but I have above 50 pages…
that item list would be very big

do you want to list only a certain number

I would like to list pages 1 to 50 in one menu, and pages 51 to 60 on the second menu, with all levels

hang on a minute

sure man, I appreciate the help!

http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1227

that worked for me
I only wanted it to list 7 on the top and 7 on the bottom
{menu template="mainNavTop" number_of_levels="1"}
that was the call I used in the template

I see, let me try something like that
thank you so much!

np

back
Ted…. are you around?
I would like access to svntest if you are

any idea how to urge a corrupted yum repository?

uhmmm…. I don't recall, but there are files that you can kill in /var/*/yum I think
you can manually delete the cache
is it yum or rpm

it's yum
it stalls out trying to read local repository list

it's /var/cache/yum
ls

is it an xml file?

does yum clean do anything?
yum clean all

let me try it
that did it
thanks

excellent
I think I can parse the mysqldump command, looking for trimmed lines that end in ; as the end of a query

cool

and execute query by query in php

one sec

oh, okay, I guess I'm back on module repository

That's what I was getting at. That's basically what the CMSMS installer does.

I didn't catch those messages, sorry, I was madly typing

Except I have the extra benefit of a query per line
I didn't get it totally out before being distracted

But other than the validation step, and the mysql import….. SitePusher works great.
I even chmod the dirs to 755 and files to 644 (except for certain ones like tmp that I'll handle specially)
It's gonna be a killer app, I should add licensing….and charge $25 for it.

IM'd the password to svntest
Do it!

run it through zend optimizer or some other code obfuscator
after a beta cycle maybe

with FormBuilder, how do I give my fields labels?
(I don't seem to be able to get at the field name for the "for" attribute)

Which version of FB ?

0.4

Is this an upgrade from an 0.3 version?

yes

Lemme look
the 0.4 templates have labels
but, here's a snippet from the 0.4 template:
label{if $entry-multiple_parts != 1} for="{$entry-input_id}"{/if}{$entry-name}
{if $entry-required_symbol != ''}
{$entry-required_symbol}
{/if}
/label

I've tried input_id
it doesn't match the name/id of the input elements

it seems to for me

let me try again
I get

input type="text" name="m3fbrp__4" id="m3fbrp__4" value="" size="25" maxlength="128" /

oh, interesting
Yep
Line 611 (ish) of modules/FormBuilder/classes/Form.class.php
$oneset-input_id = $id.'_'.$thisField-GetID();

so cmsms changed its input field naming notation?

= $id.'fbrp__'.$thisField-GetId()
No Formbuilder did so it could take advantage of the parameter cleaning in 1.1
but I guess the labels got missed

ok

if you make that change, and it works, I'll commit it

items display in front of css drop down menus? i am using ipix on a site, and menus are dropping behind the pic….tried z-index, but didnt fix

should say, "behind"
css menus

Pat…. no it's a common problem….. I'm looking for an anser too

sorry for vanishing, isp maintenance window
yes, that fixes the problem

formbuilder - trunk/classes (rev: 229) calguy1000: Fixes to labels

multiple inheritance is a curse anyways….. PHP's lack of real polymorphism sucks though
at least PHP4 I am not sure about 5

Hello everyone

and templates
I love C++ templates
howdy

I've got some problem I need help
with CMSMS v1.1

so do I…..
I need a 36 hour day

I am sure
everybody here does

wazzup, I'll see if I can help

the page hierachy doesn't work if it goes more than one level deep, it will complain preg_match compliation error, any ideas?

I want to create an item which is both a checkbox and an email disposition

I try to turn on and off the $config['use_hierarchy'] = true; it doesn't help tho

strange…. I have 3 level page hierarchies working no problems.

hmm
the even stranger part is that the urls that doesn't comes with .html extention

what does your {menu} tag look like

there already perfectly good base classes for both

how do I look at that?

urls won't come with the url extension unless you turn on some kind of pretty urls

yes I did turn on the pretty urls

yeah, I recently built a file disposition that uses checkboxes, but not a 'multiselect' email disposition

$config['page_extension'] = '.html';

how? with .htaccess?

no, with config.php

or did you turn on internal_pretty_urls

yes, I did turn the internal pretty urls as well

#Extension to use if you're using mod_rewrite for pretty URLs.
$config['page_extension'] = '';
so the page_extension only works if using mod_rewrite
http://svr.techcom.dyndns.org/cms_test/svn/index.php/priv-testing-pages/pub-users_formbuilder/formbrowser

oh , you know what, I have a combo in the config.php and .htaccess

I have 'internal_pretty_urls' on, 'use_hierarchy' on, and nothing in .htaccess
how's your php?

yeah, I just try that, removing the .htaccess it will fail to work

strong

then it's not hard to create a new disposition to formbuilder
Though _SjG_ has to learn a bit about documentation

indeed not, it just frustrates me that I'll have to copy/paste all the checkbox code across

this is my newest disposition: DispositionMultiselectFileDirector.class.php
it uses checkboxes, so check it out, it was pretty simple
turn internal_pretty_urls to tru and use_hierarchy to tru, and 'assume_mod_rewrite to false
s/tru/true/g

ha
let me see

it's quiet tonite, only 6 things happening at once

lol
right, time to resist the urge to heavily refactor fb and just write the code I need

Yeah, I have that weekness too

(Dispositions should blatently be decoupled from form fields)

then the next day I write garbage code myself….. and have to rewrite it two days later. I need a cure for that
Well, decoupled in the frontend anyways

I'd probs go for dumb, validated form fields, dispositions which have a defined set of inputs, each of which can be linked to a constant or any form field
so e.g. the different email dispositions just become different input field wirings

hmmm, no I don't think it needs to get that crazy, it's close to what it needs….
if you do as your planning, then the dispositions have to be capable (all of them) of handling multiple values, which causes difficulties for things like file based dispositions

I fail to see why they must all be able to take multiple values

if, for example, using your scenario I coupled a file disposition with a checkbox group….. which file(s), and where would it write out to. Something has to nail that down. Which is why it's all in one 'disposition' at the moment.

fb already has the concept of single/multiple inputs
it would be pretty easy to add a flag to some disposition inputs saying "single input fields only"

yes, but that'd be more complex on the user side now you get all kinds of weird errors that normal Lusers don't know how to deal with

(in fact you'd make this default and have a "allow multi-input" flag)

I use to think your way infact.
in the 'purist' sense…. but reality creaps in after a while

you don't get errors, you get form fields you want to link to mysteriously not showing up in the allowed inputs list

and time contraints,
yeah, that too…. I can just think of the forum posts on that one.
People don't know how to read help now…

it would make what I am trying to do this instant slightly easier if it worked like that)
bit would make what I am trying to do this instant slightly easier if it worked like that)/b

I'm sure _SjG_ wouldn't mind your help…. as long as you showed him what you were doing and how it worked before you committed.

have a challenge-response protection for the forums that asks questions which are answered in the docs?

Yeah…. If even SEE another question in the forum about 'how do I embed a php script' or anything even similar to that, I'm gonna hire a big italian guy named guido to go hunt them down

be careful, he might tell them to use python instead

good… I don't support python
let them use perl
smarty variables in fields don't work…. looks like we need to do some tweeks for 0.4.2
or is it something dumb
@later tell _SjG_ smarty variables in fields don't work…. looks like we need to do some tweeks for 0.4.2

The operation succeeded.

@later tell _SjG_ FormBuilder that is

The operation succeeded.

@later tell _SjG_ turn on the checkbox to allow smarty input and put {$mytestvar} into the input field of a hidden field.

The operation succeeded.

that's gotta be something dumb, because it's calling eval
@later tell Ted: I've reproduced the ModuleRepository problem on my home install, something weird is happening. I just haven't had a chance to trace through it yet

The operation succeeded.

wb jerseyian

calguy1000_, have u been paid yet?
I am surrounded by uincompetence of the highest order.

Nope…. just checked paypal
It's hard to soar with the eagles when you're surrounded by emus.
long weekend coming up… ugh
Hope I can get SitePusher done by then

calguy, im willing to pay you

Pat.. I've been responding to your email all night in between support issues.

just saw, "have you been paid yet"…sorry for interjection

Pat, or iNSiPiD_ I may throw one of these through the company I'm working with just so that I can work on it in 'prime time'.

haven't come through, try pat@matterhorntips.com

I haven't sent yet

o
ok
sorry
misunderstood
i have a young kid ready to develop the module; he has been solid in the past, but this is a significant project for my company.
should say significant project for a client of mine, which will in turn be significant for my company
calguy, you must have a great employer, ill send him some homebrew

Okay…. I'm gonna talk to the 'boss' about this tomorrow, but he'll pretty much let me run with it, as it doesn't need any interaction with him, other than rates and invoicing and all that nice stuff.
and we'll come up for a plan on all 3 of your modules.
What's your timeline like?

i have planned well, so we have time

excerrent

late october

even better

early november
but of course, the sooner the better so i can build it out

Yes of course, we'd stage the 'handovers'.
infact it has to be iterative, because of the nature of the work.

calguy1000, I'm pushing for it to be done today. Would love to get this done before I leave for broader horizons (which would appear to be on the cards now).

if mid to late october could be targeted, it would be ideal, but am willing to wait if that is what it might take

and when are you leaving for broader horizons
I think that's targetable…. SitePusher should only take me another 1 or 2 work days to get a 1.0 out

ok

As soon as the Good Lord permits.

and iNSiPiD_ are you negotiating CMS work in the new position?

i hope my outline was more coherent than past….sorry if i wasted any of your time with that

yeah, it's alot more clear now.
thanks…. I was scratching my head there for a while

Yep. They're currently using Jahia (Java based open source CMS which runs on Tomcat) but I'm going to try to swing them around to CMSMS for smaller things cos Jahia also handles document management etc.

So…. to describe the new company, they're a media company….. doing all forms of marketing and advertising.

good, i have learned a bit more about the process and some of the modules since we first exchanged messages

They'r ealso talking SHarepoint which I don't know much about but they seemed pretty sold on it.

i can see some ways that existing modules might be modified to suit the needs

I've introduced them to a well made CMS…. which should reduce their website development costs by an order of magnitude
and in return they've allowed me to write a few things that'll be useful to them.
like SitePusher
ThemeManager

I wish I could get paid to do nothing but CMSMS but Ted can't afford me at this stage.

i look forward to sitepusher

I don't know sharepoint…
SitePusher already 3/4 works it just doesn't restore the database yet. and I've gotta write a function to re-create the tmp directory structure (easy stuff).

Me neither. SOund sinteresting but evil.

but it pushes all files via ftp
in user configurable chunks

sweet

it already re-creates the config.php file correctly for the new host.
and I'm gonna write some options so that uploads and/or modules can be recursively opened up
but that's maybe 1.0.1
actually, no. I'm not.

calguy, once i receive a quote (i would assume to be somewhat smaller?), i can give my young guy the availability calendar, but would like to know for sure that you will have time to develop it before doing so

Oh man, I think I might be getting old…
I just did the "zoom in" to read an article on a web site. The text was too small.
bI just did the "zoom in" to read an article on a web site. The text was too small./b
Did you like mine?

yours?

I sent you a link to a screenshot yesterday

o really?

Maybe it was after you went to bed.

i dunno if i saw it
link still handy?

http://home.wishy.org:8080/~ted/interface.jpg

dont worry I do it too… some pages have 10px letters and I cannot read them

I dunno… I'm a little worried.

is that Ace or CT?

Ace
fubar and friends

ag_UnitFrames?

pitbull

oooh
hrms

Pretty much everything is updated via the Ace updater. Only have to download like 3-4 mods the manual way.

yeah, i'm browsing through it
all the dependancies are inside each mod folder, which is rediculous, but downloading them w/o externals is a headache, because then you hafta figureout what libs are needed

bongos and auctioneer are probably the major non-ace things.
New ace updater handles deps, doesn't it?
(I use the old Mac one, so I don't know)

ish, i dunno

Aren't the servers down?
Ugh
I'd be a lot pissed

yeah lend it to GF so she can have tomtom navigation
I just forget I lended it and put it on charger
and I sync with PC so I lost only couple notes(like SEO class and so)…

Oh, ok. That's not TOO bad.
I'm picturing everything being lost…

that I would be really pissed
cool Ipaq after hard reset installed security application back
so its locked and my fingerprints still working
at least one thing that I dont have to set up

its not downloading

what's not?

woot
got it to work i think finally
now i just need to work on some art ^^
I 3 lua
looks so crisp and clean when people do it right

morning

Morning

hiya calguy1000_

how goes this morning

Motivation is quite low
That much I know.

I started building new webpage with cms made simple but it goes so fast that I have to wait till tomorow for next meeting that I know how they want to make
it…
the talkative IRC is litte bit wierd… it makes multiline from one

I think I'll do that in SQL though
I think I'll do that in sql though

why do they hafta patch for 6 hours

heh, started to answer westis comments but will have to finish later, too many!

lol

Curious to see if has any effect on the memory usage…

ff in XP takes normaly more memory than in linux
and longer opened more takes

Yeah, that's what I figured
Curious if having things like WDT or Firebug makes it more noticable…

I've seen FF consumed about 780MB in memory and 1.6GB swaped…

sick

it was my GF's laptop where it was opened for a week and using normaly, but never closed
maybe it was opened longer

I tend to close Firefox many times during the day, just because I have a habit to, so I've never seen it take those amounts of memory

I leave it open for weeks on my work machine

would be interesting to test, but somehow I always seem to close the window at some point

if I dont have a open work there I close it
it's closed now

and…. looks like it's verified. the fix to function.content.php works here too

Excellent

Can CMSMS help me get 36 hours a day so that I can work 28 hours a day?

maybe 3.0 will also make your coffee so you won't have to spend time doing that

and…. I thought of a new button I want to add to 'listcontent' : 'add child here'

that could be handy! What about copy pages? (heard it is a litle kincky)

vpv - gf makes coffee (I work at home and she's talking care of our baby). so CMSMS 3.0 making coffee for me is not a big gain.
vpv - gf makes coffee (I work at home and she's talking care of our baby). so CMSMS 3.0 making coffee for me is not a big gain.

copy pages is kinda against the grain of CMS IMHO….
but 'create child here' that automatically used the parents page template, and filled in the parent, and all that nice stuff
that'd be handy

do we have a log?
~logs

irc logs?

yeah
of the channel

I have them, but not anywhere viewable. Could probably make up something to do that.

i think people would use them, maybe something to do when you get bored

youtube doesn't do it for ya anymore?
Yeah, I could put them up

Hi there, i have a question, i want to update cmsms from 1.0.4 to 1.1 and don't know exactly what the right way is

1. Backup!
2. Upload all of the 1.1 files over your 1.0.4 install

ok, thats clear

3. Run the install/upgrade.php in your browser

i can upload it without the middle-updates 1.0.4-1.0.5 and so on?

Yup

oh, thats good

cmsinfo upgrade

upgrade is Take a *backup* of my db and files! Copy new files over my old files. Run install/upgrade.php. Enjoy!

There you go. Words from the expert around here.

thx all, i will try it
oh, a little different question

and maybe after fo to modules to see if any of them needs upgrade

the 1.1.1 will upgrade the same way too, right?

Yes
In fact, use that

thanx

fo/go

Hmmm, is there a way I can give person access to edit certain pages without giving them permission to add/remove pages, modify any page, or modify page structure ?
looks like we're missing something here

cmsinfo upgrade is also and you should go to Modules to see if any of my modules needs upgrade.

okay, reneh_work_.

yes no rights and only rights on that pages

ownership, or does 'additional editor' work?

aditional is good enough

excellent

I put them in a separate group with no rights and spesific adds them to each page I want them to edit

next question…. is there an easy way to add additional users to a group of pages

no
you that is good at sql maybe can punch it stright into the table

yeah in this case it's easy….. I want them to be an additional editor on every page above a certain one

below?
child … or you realy mean parent?

n

but I may just do it the hard way

so child

hmmm
now i can
ahh
not inside lists
weird

I think that 'additional editors' without 'modify page structure' permission shouldn't be able to edit page aliases, access keys, title attributes, etc. just content areas and maybe metadata
anybody second that?

def page aliases
not sure about the rest though…
but if i had to say either or then I would second it

I'm gonna need this for 1.2 I think
that and 'additional editors'
oh, and the template. they shouldn't be able to change the template
without 'modify page structure' permission
or do we need another permission?

is that what that permission does?

nope, def not the template
I thought that was what 'modify page structure' was?
or is

okay, so that'll be added to my 1.2 todo list
it's there.
okay, so the site is ready to roll, except for some styling
my first real cmsms site (well I just ported it).

wow first real site for you calguy? :-p
got a link we can inspect?

calguy1000`~ say what?
your first?

no, no link yet…. customer still has to add some content…. there'll be a splassh page protecting it till the content is done
or hiding it
well, my first real site…. that I've built for production…. I've tweaked others, done installs, etc. but this one I converted from static.

cool cool, we're almost ready to publish a new site in CMSMS too
http://mattmartin.iwsdev.com

Matt Martin - Home (at mattmartin.iwsdev.com)

looks cool
did you see my posting in the announcements forum today about the bug we found?

hi again
i have a problem
Unterminated comment starting line 2280 …?

uhm, a comment that didn't get closed.

oh i see, seems to be an error at the upload
ah, sure
that is strange, that the file is there but only the half
the upgrade is working, yeah

hi ppl
i have a quick question…
its about form builder….
where can i adjust the size of text fields?

shoot - if we know we answer
in css

sample?

if you mean text areas

input { width: 12em; }
textarea { width: 12em; }

#m4moduleform_1 table.formbuilderform textarea {width: 540px;}
mine is very spesific

Ah, another neighbour gone? *eg*

http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1219

you can't change the 'size' attribute….. you have to specify the width, etc. with css

k

there is no admin-area for that? I thought i have seen it sometimes

perhaps i should mention that i'm using formbuilder 3.0 since the whole page uses cmsms 1.06
well there is a conflict with using css there..
some fields use the "required" class for highlighting required fields…if i edit this class than all required fields are affected..not only those i want to be..
afk for 15

If I tran folks on CMS 1.0 and upgrade to 1.1, are there any UI differences I should be aware of?

this internet connection really sucks
falls down time to time…

gach, ran into the tokenizer issue moving a host
ugh
mkaply no the UI is pretty much identical

I'm just curious… how the shotcurt keys work?

i still dont know how to make this textfields displaying more than 25 characters… ;-8

i have installed "diagnostics" and it doesnt work (max is 1.0.5.) and want to deinstall, but in the modulemanager is no Option to deinstall it. i have to delete it on the FTP?

I foud out
s/foud/found
Alt+Shift+key what you have to have it…

Mike…. did you click on 'uninstall' ?

there is no "Click"-Option
all modules are ok with deinstall but this one not

then there are dependencies?

uuh i don't know

doesnt have to be… for example same thing does ModuleMaker
and says that max version is 1.0.5
max supported version

yep ^^

and there is no uninstall option(but was installer allright)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4821/screen081fv4.png
thats the Problem

We REALLY need to fix that
MaxVersion should affect everything except upgrade and uninstall. It's not like it's going to change drastically anyway.

if there is max version something your actual one it shouldn't even install

It won't. It's if you had a module that has a max of 1.0.5 and then you upgrade CMSMS core to 1.1.

Mike… then yeah, remove the files via ftp

Mike[R]wech: ok mine says almost the same thing. but in different language

Yeah, I'll put that on the 1.2 list too
it's bit me a few times

I have 1.1 and it installed

I'd actually make that 1.1.2 w/ the module fix
It's been biting people for a long time and it's not a huge deal.
Really? Using module manager?

I'm not cmsms guru, but arent there some SQL tables to delete after the deleted module?

are you guys going to redesign the CMSMS site?

The module is responsible for it's own tables during the uninstall process
Yes

ah ok, deleting from ftp is ok, thx

pretty sure I installed it via module manager(or whatever original english name is)

Guess module manager isn't testing for that
Really, the module api should be responsible, not module manager

so why the api let module manager install it?
I try, but im pretty sure I did this way

It shouldn't. It's a bug.

I try with the diagnostitcs
diagnostics was downloaded and installed without any message

that was not my intention to make busy all ppl here with my Problem

Is the website team the one responsible for the design?
i didn't think i was :-p

What about now?
it will be a competition for a new design realy soon

oooh, competition? i'll probably compete in that :-p

nice
we are just working out the specs and rules for it these days
we are just working out the specs and rules for it these days

bah, deadlines

hello _SjG_

Got forge up and running on the notebook last night. Took me ten times longer than it should have,
but that's because I'm an idiot
Hi Reneh

lol
That's good

So now I can start actually working on it

Excellent

I installed using Locomotive, and it takes some doing to make it do the right thing
should have just built Rials
Rails

PHP Safe mode is enabled…

Yeah, I use MacPorts and gems for that. It's pretty painless.

php.ini

kino in site prefs

I think that would have been a better approach. I started out with fink, and I think that MacPorts is more current on a lot of stuff

not this way

ah…

Yeah, macports is usually updated with new stuff within a day or two
Added you to the commit list

when/if I get the new notebook …
…. thats' what I'll do
thanks

thanks… missed that one

been there don…

Want a list of major missing pieces, then?

sure

Don't forget the coffee maker!

It is there. I'm just blind

- File Releases — right now it has the stuff in place, but there is no place to upload a file.
- Comments on projects — There is an acts_as_commentable. Should be able to apply that to the module and it'll just work.

don't care about that one… I don't drink coffee, but tee maker would be great..

(I think — look at how the bug tracker does it)

ok
ratings on projects?

News is non-existant. The stuff on the front page is just html from the dump I did.

voting for bugs?

Yup, ratings on projects

ah, News…

voting for bugs?

so we can figure out which are the highest priority, like Mozilla does.

Oh

not necessary, but a possibility

Yeah, that might be cool
It'll just bump the priority up?

Can we make it so ppl can in a easy way see that open and known bugs are? So they dont need to ask about its a known bug…

hm. not sure the exact mechanics. Maybe have them as separate numbers? priority is by the QA team, and vote is popular demand?

We can if we can come up with a good way to do it.
And the ability to know if a project is getting stale. No updates in 6 months or so.

gforge is not bad like now - but on every modules page i should be open and easy to see that known bugs problems is just now.

All that stuff, and I think it's launchable. Then we tweak and add accordingly.

oh yeah, I remember something with "most recent commit"
OK.
That should be manageable.

Which can just be a timestamp and a way to hit it via http or web service or something.

yeah

And we can modify it from the post-commit
The only other major piece is figuring out how to do what mod_auth_gforge does…
And that's totally beyond me

that's how it allows granting svn privileges via the web site?

Yup
It's pgsql specific, so it's not like I can even hack it with a view.

ooh. But svn uses its own permissions, doesn't it?

It can. Think we can write out a file and reload apache?

I dont' even know if apache reload is necessary
at least on our config here, we just edit a couple of files, and it "knows"
I think
But I guess I'll have to look into that

Would have to test it. I'm almost positive it needs a reload, unless there is a flag I'm missing.
But, yeah, that would work fine. As long as there isn't any file locking issues, I'm all for it.

Oh. right. file locking issues. crap.
I think I'll leave that part for later

That's fine.

we'll see how much progress I can make before CPH
It'd be really nice if we could demo it there

Indeed
Well, I might have some free time early next week or even this weekend (it's 3 days, right?)
This week is booked solid, though. Kind of sucks… not really in the mood to do any of it.
But it's my CPH funny money, so no choice.

it's a module project?

Module project and a rails project

good evening

evening

anything interesting today?

working through a hosting provider sucks…. I prefer root access

I could have told you that

really? I wouldn't say so…
just kidding
but one thing about hosting provider is cool(if the owner is you friend)… you tell him whats wrong and we'll fix it…

The real problem is when people who don't know what they need get hosting for you.

Sure, this Windows/ASP $2.95/month plan should be fine It comes with awesomePanel[tm] which lets you upload your ftp!

lol
It's so true

Ted, does your site syncing thingy work?

For the most part. It doesn't handle stylesheet associations.
Except for that, I think it works ok.

some hosts let you have root ^^

cool (well I can always look at tweaking that too).
what's it called.
or is it not on the forge?

Uhh
Wow, I usually don't do stupid stuff like this… it's only my desktop machine at home.

doh.

And zipped up in emails on gmail

Should I announce the design competition tonight? Instead of us putting upa new structure we can describe generally how we think about it and give the designers some freedom and they can even include html host pages as examples and text to describe how they think

well, I wanna look at it…. it could be used for syncing from a dev site to a staging site.
bwell, I wanna look at it…. it could be used for syncing from a dev site to a staging site./b

Lemme email it to you

excellent

yeah, now that tsw is the only team leader I guess he has the last word But we discussed something to this effect last night, with calguy1000
and we can always leave a disclaimer that we have the right to adjust submitted designs to better fit with the structure

westis`~ i added some comments to it earlier today

sent

to your document?

i think it's a bit over the top in terms of complexity
both

what is over the top?

that and the competition draft
the competition draft
heh

hello! hmmm - since its so many ideas as its contributors to the site structure I would say we just start the comp. and let the designers show us that they think. Maybe the can convince us too.

don't misunderstand me, i quite like it

over the top in the sense that we ask for too much? Too detailed instructions?

and Ted…. I just had a brilliant idea about saved parameter lists…. have the module create a set of parameters in an assoc array, then store them in the database and get a 'token' that can be used on the url…. then the entire url could be www.mysite.com/actions/TOKEN#####
and tokens could have a lifetime

westis`~ detailed in the doc
westis`~ but yes
mostly that
and yeah, comments don't work in lists on google docs
nor do colors
so it's in ()

can't see your comments in the web design competition doc….

wut?

Hmm. That's not a bad idea.
It's not reading friendly, but it would sure be unique

westis`~ fuck
they're gone

ah, it was not added as comments….

i spent loads of time on that today
they're all gone afaics

I'm comparing revisions and can see your comments

oh
cool
phew
then i can do my share in making the young'ns room nice

1) about the accessibility guidelines, I agree. We can say we like accessibility and usability, but indeed iNSiPiD__ or someone can adjust those things later

it appears that phpmyadmin uses a similar methodoligy

bblte

If i have time and enter the design competition, I would want to code the template, would that be ok? :-p

what do you mean?

if my design wins by chance

2) external stylesheets are files that are linked to rather than stylesheets added in Layout/Stylesheets and linked with the {stylesheet} tag, or well, with the {metadata} tag now. Externally referenced files are more difficult to include in a theme
isn't the design made in the template(s) + stylesheets?

hmm not sure how you guys are doing this "competition", i assumed everyone would be submitting a comp'd graphic first, then coding it once a winner is decided

hmm isn't {footer} a GCB ?

ContentSync looks so cool.
Ted, is there any authentication anywhere behind it?

Yes. It checks the login on the production site, so you need to have the same username/pass on both.
It doesn't check permissions for what it syncs, though.

okay…. and doesn't do UDT's atm.

Nope

cool.

Would be easy to add. I have the way to do it down now.

westis`~ well, yes, but that is extremely not clear there
because just earlier we are talking about XHTML/CSS in a generic way
and then this comes in cmsms speak
it got me confused
westis`~ i've no beef with this rule, just the presentation of it
westis`~ do you know why my comments disappeared?
i thought it was safe for two ppl working at the same time on the same doc

should be. But maybe one have to hit save or something before one leaves the doc - me don't know…

sorry, was on the phone
people will contribute themes, that is templates + stylesheets

k, gotcha

westis`~ irc rules, phone sucks!
just remember that ;

what is not clear'? External stylesheets. I'll add something about what I wrote above then
and no clue about comments not being saved…. but one can always revert to an older revision

westis`~ k

and I think the stylesheet stuff can be discussed to. iNSiPiD__ suggested that and personally I like modular CSS. But we can always split that up afterwards too, if some designers find it difficult

from {stylesheet}/{metadata} - the distinction between those when using the term "external" is not at all clear, except possibly to those used to cmsms

yeah, I'll change the text

westis`~ stylesheet modularity was more of a terminology issue then anything else

about no GCBs. It's because GCBs are not included when a theme is exported
it's great, better discuss it before rather than such questions arise later

so the designer cant then make a footer either

well, they can include it directly in the template and we can later move it to a GCB

thats true

and about Javascript, I agree it might be necessary to use it under some circumstances, like elastic width in IE. So maybe we can rather say "try to avoid Javascript"

i know, it doesn't really make sense

so take away that we want them to use {footer} tag

me too, but that won't happen before this competition

but not doing it sucks at least as much
westis`~ i know )

so the question to decide is, how to they submit themes?
1) To the themes site, although I think it currently looks quite horrible…
2) E-mail xml files, images etc. zipped
3) Zip file in a forum web hosting thread (I think Joomla's template competition is like that)
anything we can steal from here? http://www.joomla.org/content/view/3798/1/

Joomla! - Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest (at www.joomla.org)

maybe give the finalists a CMSMS t-shirt….?

zip file in a forum thread is inviting ppl to take each others code, right?
giving unfair advantage to latecomers…

their rules are easier and more precise indeed. I'll rewrite iNSiPiD__'s text, considering the comments etc.

cool

yeah, that's true

one thing that makes the joomla rules better is that their list items don't run over one line
seriously

yeah, good to keep short

the timeline stuff does run over and it makes it seem cluttered and illegible
but hard to write short
you try and i can have a go at shortening even more
if that's ok with you

ok. p0lly's gotta rest, since she's using up CPU that's needed for other stuff.

or if you wanna do it you're more than welcome to! I'm extremely busy these days….
she seems to be too tired to even respond

yeah

westis`~ i could try but busyness seems to be going the rounds…
might be able to look at it tonight but doubt it
tomorrow is a better bet

that's fine

evening westis! check query…

hey, i said a better bet!
;

howdy! Query?
I wouldn't bet anyway, would just lose money

yep
same here

westis - question about denis in private chat.

Why don't we allow {footer} and {generic} as GCB's? It's really a bummer to have none…

did you get the PM? I think I wasn't registered before

and we can predefine them in the dbase used for the comp

well, how would we include the footer code? As html files that we'd add as GCBs manually?

hmmm
silly and tired me
somehow
somebody else figure that out ;
who are the target group for the competition? Mostly ppl that are already designing for cmsms? or designers in general? How is it going to be publicised?
just so i know which tone to take…
although most of insipids marketing speechs is fine
just wondering what and where to cut
it's really in casual speech though, do we want to maintain that tone?

announcement on the blog and in the forum. Anyone is welcome, but since they submit a theme it requires general knowledge of templates and stylesheets in CMSMS. But probably those reading it will already know that…

ok, so the casual tone is in, right?
i'll just try to tighten up the rules

not necessarily that casual throughout. Some balance between casual and clear rules, I guess. So they're attracted both by the tone and the clearness

heh, k

we must - as I put in there - set the dates!

yeah, I think the dates are already in there? Well, perhaps not all…

I see none

is footer a GCB that is already defined?

"Send all themes to competition@cmsmadesimple.org at the laste by October 1 2007." etc. At the bottom of the document

i just deleted that…
not

could you setup that e-mail address to be forwarded to the website team?

hmm me didn't notice that earlier

Do you want a mailing list? Or just forward to a bunch of email addresses?

forwarding

which?

all in the website team
or if there is website@cmsmadesimple.org already it could just be forwarded to that

one sec

well, not that urgent

maybe someone already have the theme ready to send….

Dooes CMSMS have a graphics standards manual? =P

hopefully we'll have nothing else to do the coming months than to look at themes and decide which ones to make it to the final

website@ is setup

what do you mean?
forwarded to all in the website team?

GSM is usually for larger (more anal) companies to help protect logo usage.

yes

Specifies which colors to use, how much whitespace, sizing etc etc

ah right, there is nothing like that written down
and we'll add a disclaimer that we can edit the colors etc. of a winning theme

hmm is the 1.1 to 1.1.1 diff changed yet?

"CMSMS reserves the right to change the winning design to accommodate it's specific needs.

hmm no

"
?

sounds good. Just its instead of it's

yes
calguy1000 Can you make a new correct diff for 1.1 to 1.1.1 ?

oooh, help wanted section is new?

think so
its htis page in new name isn't it? http://cmsmadesimple.org/main/support/services

CMS Made Simple - Services (at cmsmadesimple.org)

oh, i was talking about the new forum

ahh yeah that is new

westis`~ anal!
:P
thnx

reneh, I was going to wait till 1.1.2 came out and then make diffs from 1.1 to 1.1.2
but I could think about doing that anyways

or we can remove it from the download page until you are ready for that?
its bad ppl download a incomplete file

yeah, go ahead remove it from the download page
Hmmm, we have a DatabaseBackup tool, and a FileBackup tool, but nothing that does both, bah

we _had_ I think
cleanup done
but file should be deleted form the download catalog too

Good evening. Is it possible to disable the fact that ppl can see the thumbnails (created by the imagemanager) when they are in the "browse sever" of the 'insert image' dialog box they open up from within the WYSIWYG? (am i clear? :/)
because it is the only sort of window in which they see them.. I suppose it should be possible to disable this, as it is in the file manager…

I'm not sure…. never use the wysiwyg myself

hmm I swear I tested the order of Submit Cancel Apply on all type of pages in admin, but its wrong order in template edit.
I'm at least sure I reported it.
calguy1000 can you add that to your list of fixes.

yeah, I'll add it to my 1.1.2 todo list
what order should they be in?

Submit Cancel Apply

okay it's in my notes

thx! I just don't know why it was not fixed.

Is the thing where you hit apply on a template and then you get a "name already in use" error when you hit submit on that list?

no…..

I think I know the fix
Lemme give it a quick look

cool
hmmmm, the DB Backup tool would be file if I just used mysql stuff directly
without using adodb

Actually, scratch that. Seems the fix I would've made is already there.
Maybe someone else did it?

not recently…. maybe before 1.1.1

I think that was fixed for 1.1.1

Was it template? Or something else?
My line is from 2006
Hmm
It was template. Not sure why it's happening, then.
Can someone test for me? I need to run out the door in about 5 min.
http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1692&group_id=6&atid=101

CMSMS Forge: CMS Made Simple Core: Detail: 1692 Template rename doesn't work after Apply (at dev.cmsmadesimple.org)
CMS Made Simple Core: Detail: 1692 Template rename doesn't work after Apply (at dev.cmsmadesimple.org)/u

home, too

have a nice trip

volunteer to the Documentation team! http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/08/14/glowing-reviews/#comment-1218

CMS Made Simple » Blog Archive » Glowing reviews? (at blog.cmsmadesimple.org)
http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1220

Warning: Parameter class is not known… dropped in /home/elpeis/domains/elektriskepeiser.no/public_html/lib/misc.functions.php on line 1252
after a upgrade

reneh….. which modules are you using on that page?

alot
but its on all pages
but I see ConfigGUI is not compatible - but that one is not in the content
calguy1000 should I disable them one and one?

hmmm, is there a class= param in any of the tags
Okay, I've thought about it…. and I don't want a backup module… I want a 'SitePush' module that will, given the ftp, database, url, and path information push and entire site from one location to another

calguy1000 yea I have img src="uploads/images/flamerite_logo.jpg" alt="Flamerite" class="levlogo1" /

but that's not in a module tag.

{menu template="lazy_days_top" number_of_levels="1" class="here"}

aha…

the error is stright above the menu

yeah….. class is not a valid parameter of MenuManager

have been like this for one year now
so is it not valid anymore?

I've never seen the 'class' param for the {menu} tag… and I'm looking at the source and don't see it mentioned anywhere

#mainMenu li a.here { color: #9FF3FF; border-top: 9px solid #F8D766;}
this is the style for that class

or put it in your lazy_days_top MM template

any Excel/Calc experts out there? Trying to find out how to get the date of the Monday of next week…

Okay…. I need an ftp api for php, and…. that's about it I think and I can do the sitepusher thing

especially since we need to try and add the ftp functoinality for getting around permissions issues.
So you might as well get comfortable with it.

ah, think I found out

The sitepusher thing would be nice

yeah, just speccing it out now…. if I do it that way though I want some checksumming somewhere so that I can validate that files uploaded properly
maybe SOAP could do that though

THX calguy1000! Working now!
hmm we have a Archiver module in gforge
This module, once it's installed, keeps around a copy of every Content Page, HTML Blob, or Template as you edit it (stylesheets will soon be added to this list). It also provides an interface so that an administrator can restore anything in the archive to be the current state.
and we have MassMover - manages export and import of complete CMSMS-based sites
h3What does this do?/h3
MassMover is a tool to dump a complete CMSms based site to a tar.gz file for moving to another hosting facility.
Currently a complete database-dump and the content of the uploads/ dir is saved, but non-core modules are under
consideration as well as a complete dump of everything including the core
h3How do I use it?/h3

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good evening

hello

Is the MassMover module yours?

yes… looong ting since I looked at it… but it was a good idea…

I may look at it… I wanted to write a 'SitePusher' thing

does SQL-dump and packs up files as well
into tgz I think
Please use or do want you want!

that would get ftp, db, and website info and push the files

Is the sync module not doing it for you?
Or do you need everything to go over?
Dinner. bbiab

I want to push everything over
modules, images, everything

yup
I think thats the way, too

that would be a great tool to have, to move a site from dev to prod

Yeah, it'll have to use ftp to push the files, and soap or something to initialize a database restore
and soap for checksumming too

calguy did you receive my last couple emails? i have been having some email troubles and wanted to double check

I think I received on yesterday….. haven't checked today though… been too busy to even see what was going on there

np

I'll check toniite though, I'm only doing CMS bug fixes tonite

np….just wanted to make sure they made it to you.

hello
!seen calguy1000

right here

:-)

Hi
I got the email from your boss today

good

did he send it today - because he said the schedule would be set to what I initially requested
and if so - thats gonna be really tight for you isnt it?
Its the 28th now
and I need it in 5 / 7 days..

no I think he sent it a while back, and either way, there's no way even if accepted now that I could do it by the third… we haven't specced out everything completely yet.

I see
right. I only got it today
I did email him - got no reply. I thought he'd lost interest, so started to investigate other avenues. None of which brought fruit.

and it's a long weekend coming up here too

there is a commercial app I found that would do the job.. they want loads tho.. but looks like I've no choice. Would have effectivly worked these two projects for free.. I live and learn.
aye - we've just had our Bank Holiday

g'night

yeah….. if only the deadline weren't so tight

indeed
its a combination of things - the client moving the goal posts. My coder buggering off, and my girlfriend leaving me, and making me homeless.

well that is a pain

I was soo pissed off the other day, I quit my job and planned to move back to Wales. The boss offered me an instant pay rise, and a share when they sell the company
and I said no..
luckily, this morning he let me say yes

yeah, very lucky

so I just want to get these two freelance projects off my hands - then lay low for a while
brb - phone

so why the deadline

Because deadlines are always the first thing defined in projects
Figure out how much actually needs to be done later

yeah, it's the only thing managers can 'manage'

Timelines are easy. Gantt charts and all that.
Sorry, I'm ready for a vacation. Getting cynical.

bitch keeps calling me up… not to say "sorry for going nuts and dumping you for no reason and making you homeless"
but to winge about how guilty she feels
the deadline?
basically the original deadline was end of October. My programmer told them he could haev it done by sept.
He then buggered off
meanwhile the company we're doing the work for - without telling us, brought the launch date forward
hired press adverts
and have got a whole pr campaign set to start

yeah….. that's not good… October would've been good.

which this site has to be ready for
normally I'd say "thats not on etc"
but
I've a reputation to try and salvage.. a lot of other work is connected with this.
I thought - I cant do this, so was gonna farm it out, at my own expense to someone else.
they were busy - so wanted over and above the asking price
I then discovered cmsms
and was able to get the bulk done

If it wasn't for this pesky day job, I would've taken it.

except for the whole ordering thing - which they basically tacked on, claiming it was part of the originak speck
and with all the personal shit going down, I'm clutching at everything by threads. At least the day job hasnt been affected.
but wont be doing any more freelance for a while until I can find a programmer again, and have got my living situation sorted. Renting up here costs £600 a month. I can get a mortgage for £500 a month… it's a no brainer. But it takes ages to buy a house here, so for now I'm gonna be in motels

ouch

exactly.
shes been totally unreasonable - especially as I paid all the bloody bills. She has also asked me to pay part of this months bills too…

did you laugh?

but then starts crying about how guilty she feels… arrgggghhhh!!! women
I'm just cold to it all now.. I'm getting about 3 hours sleep a night, and as a result have got a really bad cold
never realsied how vital sleep is.. trouble is, I cant now.

get tanked, get some strange…..all's good

not got time too
hmm… could I take a third party booking system, say for otels and adapt it for say courses?

Probably
Cant' you just use a regular ecommerce system?
Or because it's tracking resources?

I guess.. I dont really know much about ecommerce stuff. And yes
it would need to track resources
x number of places on course x
when y books a place x number of places goes down by 1 etc
My mate Karlos would be able to write me one… but he's working on xbox games at the mo. He's minted - but really stressed. He's paid to go in at the last moment, and bring a failing project back to schedule
he spent 3 months fixing "smoke" that cars give off on a racing game.. madness

ouch
Sounds fun.

http://www.ismartsoftware.com/ismart/default.asp?PageID=122 - hmmm…
NO PRICE THO
wish they would give prices..
will no doubt be many thousands

Probably

oh yeah.. forgot to add. killed my car last night
not on purpose
hmm.. you really couldnt make it up
sorry - wrong window

how can I call methods in one module from a different module?

is that you Patrick?

!= Patrick

?

Lemme look up the method
$mod =& $this-GetModuleInstance('News'); $mod-DoStuff();

awesome. Thanks Ted.

np

what's that photo sync application you use again?

picturesync

ah, thanks

You'll probably see a lot of it next week.

it's gonna be released for Windows next week?

bah… there are no open source standalone course booking systems that allow you to pay

Dunno. I just know that i promised to flickr pictures while I'm over there.

to book on a course

ah

You're gonna have to launch without it. It's the client's fault for bumping up the date without realizing the consequences.

well, time to body-charge, as reneh puts it. Good night

night

indeed.. but all his marketing and everything is based around it. Bugger..
que cera

_SjG_?
I've kind of got what I want coming from these Quizzard templates but for some reason the Section name is getting printed twice.
calguy1000_, have u been paid yet?

insipid cal "should" be home soon

k, thanks babe.

np

Ted, any idea how to get rid of unnecessary white space from a Smarty plain text email template without removing all the spaces?
Is there some way to wrap the entire message up into a var within the template itself, similar to the PHP method of using $message.="stuff"?

insipid?

I'm just gonna keep putting the messages out there and play pot luck as to which one gets answered first.
Hi _SjG_.

zup?

http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1221

Take a look at that.
I'm close.

ok

hmm.. there is a course booking module for joomla.. but I hate that cms. Wonder if I could just install the course booking bit, alongside cmsms.. and then get the cmsms module comissioned

how do you get a module comissioned?

that's not going to do what you were thinking with the section in front of each question, though
you offer a dev a lot of money

who else besides cal?

indeed

But for some reason the Section name gets repeated twice AND it gets printed whether there's a missed/incorrect question or not.
I'll give you 5 to process.

5 dev's?

5 debs
*devs

yeah, it'd do that. You want it just once, only if there's an incorrect/skipped question?

http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1222
a href="http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1222"http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1222/a

_SjG_, yeah that's right. So why is it spitting it out twice though?
And how the hell can I avoid al the white space?
Wrap the whole thing up in a $var.=""?
I can't wait until you get the HTML templates happening.

take a look at that one. It'll prevent the double-spit

OK. Thanks. I couldn't work that out to save myself.

crsuh white space with a {strip} {/strip}

Around the whole output? Handy to know. Cheers.

so…. I got official go ahead to work on SitePusher at work (at least as a side project).

is that the MassMove type module?

In the short term, is there a simpe patch I could apply to change the question field into a text area that won't strip HTML input?

well, that removes all carriage returns

yep

uh. let me look

am i correct in thinking that would allow for a set up of a site on a dev server, then simple move to live site? if so, that would be very useful

Ah, I see what you've done. Strange that that resulted in the Section name being repeated though.
_SjG_, thanks heaps.

remember, a section name is just a special kind of question as far as Quizzard knows

Yeah, but I only used if $entry-type=s the once. And it repeated it twice in that same location.
Anways, let me see this ouptut so I understand.
_SjG_, {strip} certainly does its job. Too well. Gets rid of carriage returns too. I'll wrap the required lines.

http://www.regonline.com/marketing/event/pricing/

Also, section still gets spat out regardless.

Internet Event Registration Software Pricing - Free to Open AccountOnline Event Registration Service - Attendee Management  Event Planning Software (at www.regonline.com)

yeah, my idea (untested) is that it would be capable of installing on an empty hosting account, or in an empty directory

they could use this

to allow HTML, you'll need to edit Quizzard.module.php. Remove the strip_tags call in lines 945, 967, 985, 995

from an internal stage site.

and add 4$ on the price of each ticket
that could work coulndt it?

yes, the section header doesn't know if there's an incorrect question within it or not

going back a couple days to the discussion of targeting designers/developers, that would be a great tool….i know i will be quick to use it for my projects

yeah, we want it at the shop so that we can push a site live, put a .htaccess infront of it, and show it to the customer, all the while working on it on our internal server
when we're done, push again

its a good idea

So it'll always spit out? Damn. In that case, would there be a way to check if no question is wrong for that section and then print "No incorrect questions"?
Hi Pat_, ma chere de chocalat.

Well, I could write custom code to tell if a section had correct/incorrect questions. I cna't do that right now, though.

Ah, OK. No way in Smarty then? OK. I'll live with it for now. Thanks.
And I can just turn the input field into a text are with no problems?
If I make that patch and paste bin it could you send it to SVN?

did you hear I figured out finally what the param dropped issue was?

I feel ill… I've found a commercial solution thats pay as you go. Does everything I need and more. Gonna sell it to the dude tomorrow. Will even knock my fee down if it means he will buy it.. I just want rid of this damn project

Not the same Pat

and iNSiPiD__ nope, not paid yet

Ah. Oh dear. That could be embarrassing. Still female at least I hope.
calguy1000_, it's with accounts now.
The stupid, lazy, incompetent farker repsonible for holding onto it this long has been roundly abused by me.

excellent, that's what I like to see…. abuse the paperwork dudes.

right
bed fpr me

gnight Bobson

finally get some sleep - thanks
and calguy - will see about using this off the shelf thing for the time being, but will try and get this module built, and funded. I think it will be a good one, just time constraints are crappy

yup
sounds good bobson

cheers
goodnight

OK. Strip is doing its job too well.
Is there a smarty function for {space} and {cr}?

what are you trying to do? strip whitespace?
including extra br/'s and empty paragraphs, etc?

Yeah, but also retain certain spaces and carriage returns.
calguy1000, it's plain text.
Could I still use \n?

so why not a simple smarty plugin that calls trim()
and just deletes all whitespace at the beginning and end?

trim

I don't think you can call trim from within smarty, without a plugin.
and whitespace would include extra \n \t, etc, up till the first printable character, and after the last.

calguy1000_, yes you can. It works very well. Too well.
It ust gets complicated.

strip != trim
strip removes html chars
trim doesn't

Easy way is to remove all code formatting from within the template, which is ugly.
And wait until Samuel adds the HTML email template.

sorry, missed that. What was it?

_SjG_, after all this, it' dbe a damn shame to lose this template on an upgrade.
Will you commit those code changes if I make them and get them working properly?

I try not to clobber templates on upgrades.
which code changes? The template changes?

Yeah, I know. I didn' tmean it would be your fault.
No, the chages to the Question field to make it a textarea and allow HTML.

oh. Well, the denying HTML was by design. It should be an admin option if you want to remove it.

Just makes it very restricitve indeed for questions.

The textarea for question … sure, that wouldn't be too hard either, and that's probably of value, so I'd commit it right in
OK, as an option, I'm not opposed to it.

HTML and a text area (with future WYSIWYG) means you can have some really funly question layouts with images, graphs, tables etc.

Eek!
ok
adding WYSIWYG is trivial if you're putting in a text area

In fact, isn't there a really simple way to call the WYSIWYG for a textarea?

Ayup

Yeah, that's what I thought.
How do you feel about making those wee changes to said file and paste binning it?
How do you feel about making those wee changes to said file and paste binning it?

well, I might have time tonight

lol

I'm actually on a deadline at the mo

OK
np
I'll take a look myself as well.
Ouch.

could be worse

Sure.
And that voiding POST values or emptying the cookie for question answers is pretty imprtant too when people re-sit an exercise, or you're doing it all on one PC.

Just think. Next weekend you'll be 7,000 miles away without a working cell phone.
no stress then…

excellent
It shoudl void the cookie when you submit your answers
if it's not doing it, it's a bug

Nope. If you go back to the root URL for the exercise they're still there.
The only thing that gets dropped are the name and email values which, ironically, I'd like to keep.

sounds like a Bug to me

gach. Reboot time methinks.
COuld well be.
So , I can just safely remove strip_tags() from those vars?
Here goes.
Oh, _SjG_, where do I define the field type fr question? I've searched for 'input' but only see answer related radio button stuff.
calguy1000_, will this line also strip HTML from the question field:
$onerow-title = (strlen($row['question'])0?htmlspecialchars($row['question']):'—');
Or does it just encode spaces and things?
Aha! action.editquestion.php - line 46
$this-smarty-assign('input_question_text',$this-CreateInputText($id, 'question_text', $question, 40, 255));
I change this to textarea, yes?

actually, I think I mentioned that I have some paid work on Quizzard this weekend, so if you're willing to wait, throw in a few FRs, and I may be able to include them in my job
otherwise, it's not looking like I'll be able to get to it for a while

Yeah, but text area takes a few different arguments

calguy1000, if that's the only line I need to change, would you mind offering an example for me?
And then I'll tackle the WYSIWYG later.
_SjG_, I think I've covered that stuff already in my FRs.

iNSIPID, sure, hang on
$this-smarty-assign('input_question_text',$this-CreateTextArea(false,$id,'question_text',$question));
iNSIPID is this an admin side page or a frontend thing?
if it's an admin side page, you can enable the wysiwyg by changing the false to true
there are other parameters you can add to set the classname, etc, etc.

Back. Damn MS and Adobe.
OK, calguy1000_, I've got a CreateTextArea example from the News module but not sure how that would translate to Quizzard.
File action.editquestion.php seems to be the best and only pace to make the change.

The CreateTextArea call is virtually identicall in all the code, the only thing that changes is the first parameter (which only applies to the backend and illustrates wether a wysiwyg could be used), the field name, and the field text

Suh-weet. I've currently got:
CreateInputText($id, 'question_text', $question, 40, 255));
How would I change that to a TextArea and make WYSIWYG true?
CreateTextAre(1,$id, 'question_text', $question, 40, 255));

CreateTextArea(true,$id,'question_text',$question));

Sweet. And the height and width params get ditched?
Oops. Nope.
I get the textarea but I get the var question_text in it instead of the actual value.

uym
oops, I was dyslexic

Swap those two?

CreateTextArea(true,$id,$question,'question_text'));

OK Done
Woo-hoo!
Too easy.
Now to see if the HTML gets stripped.

I'm getting popular…. why couldn't I get this popular BEFORE I took this developer job.
though I can't complain…. I get to work on CMS
I've done Calendar and TemplateManager already
(added file uploads to calendar) so it'd support images

Oh, this is just SUCH an improvement. _SjG_ has got to add this to SVN.
Yeah, I heard. I don't see why though? As an attachment, like a flyer or something to an event?

so you could display an image with the event detail (maybe a picture of a party or something). or a class, or whatever.

Couldn't that have been donw by just adding the WYSIWYG to that detail field? Or does this associate the image with the record too?

with the record

Nice touch.

you can display it in summary view or detail view if you want.

Cool
Resize?
Auto-thumbnail for summary?

no I don't thumbnail (yet)…. but you could add two image fields and just use one for the summary
and the other for detail

Yep.
You'd want to, I would say.

it doesn't do much, but would allow you to per-say attach a pdf to an event

Sure. Useful.

My next module at work will be a SitePusher…. I'll even maybe make it so that it'll push out a default installation to a new site.

Does it delete the upload wihen the event is deleted as well?

No, it doesn't do that.
but it uniquely names the images

calguy1000_, that's exactly the sort of thing I was talking about./
It's like an InstallerMaker for websites.
Pre-config modules and everything.
Awesome.

yeah…. there are some technical difficulties though….. like php timeouts, etc. You'll basically have to push from a local installation where you can control all the php.ini variables
or have a forgiving host

Right

But we want to use it to push from development to production

There's got to be a way to push a carriage return with this template.
Understood.

Push a carriage return?
I don't quite understand

The first question comes back properly formatted but the ensuing ones lose the carriage return. Daft. In the email result.
It's their in the template plain as day.

it's an html email?

I've had this issue with plain text emails before.
Nope

ah
hmmm…. lemme look at smarty

cheese
I wonder if a \n\n would help.

{assign var='cr' value='\n'} then maybe use {$cr} wherever
try that
or \r\n

k
nope. It actually prints the \r\n
Stupid, stupid, stupid
I've just pushed it with some spaces. Screw it.

okay
So…. You'll have to give TemplateManager a shot on one of your 1.1.1 dev sites
it's docmented and everything…. I was feeling generous

Will do.

solves your 're-ordering the css' issue.

Yup. Nice.

calguy, i am working to reformulate my words and will send something over in just a bit….

k
Hi sportman_

im sorry i have been gone so much
i really do want to help with testing
its just packing for college everything = crazy

no problems….. life gets in the way.

hows the fam?

I don't know lately repeat 5 "get up; go to work; go home; work on cms; sleep"

jesh
crazy
i got pringles in my lap
so im good
hah

bah, too many editors, can't do nothing

has barley wine
calguy, just resent, hopefully with more clarity…
if you have one module that you can devise for multiple uses…is it possible to run them concurrently?

Pat, yes it is

ok, i will go search the forums

just multiple module calls
I'm working on a stupid listmodules issue

cmsmadesimple - branches/1.2.x/admin (rev: 4109) calguy1000: Fixes so that modules who's MaxCMSVersion is invalid for this version of CMS can still be uninstalled, their permissions changed, and removed…. they just can't be installed or upgraded.

that was alot harder than I thought it'd be

cmsmadesimple - branches/1.2.x/admin (rev: 4110) calguy1000: Fix minor little upgrade check issue.
newsmodule - branches/1.0.x-dev (rev: 197) calguy1000: Adds (deprecated) to the News content type header.

Okay….. and it's relax time for me. 16+hours is enough for one day.

im there too…..

@seen calguy1000_

Okay….. and it's relax time for me. 16+hours is enough for one day.

translatecenter - modules/Captcha/lang/ext (rev: 4456) translator: Updated language file — kotecky/cs_CZ

anyone still awake?

no

translatecenter - modules/Calendar/lang/ext (rev: 4457) translator: Updated language file — kotecky/cs_CZ
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hello
anyone moved a CMS Made Simple site to another server? I have questions.
anyone?

no… ut shoudln't be a problem, as everything is ocated in a folder…
but*
located* (sry my keyboard sucks)

ok. I've moved all the files and run a .sql file and it says URL not found.
Is there a procedure for switching servers documented somewhere?

did you change all the rights,etc.. as you did during the install on the first server ?

ahhh…. nope.
k, I'll try that, thanks.

you might also have to edit the path in config.php
http://wiki.cmsmadesimple.org/index.php/User_Handbook/Installation/Copying_To_a_New_Server

User Handbook/Installation/Copying To a New Server - CMSMS (at wiki.cmsmadesimple.org)

just follow the instructions

cmsinfo move

move is clear cache, backup db, backup files, move files, restore db, edit config.php to reflect changes, clear cache

:-)
and Hello!

I would add check target server for minimal requiments…
yes and good morning

moving cms made simple means installing it again from scratch and recreating every goddamn page. fuck this piece of shit.

oOOO
dunno why he wants to recreate every page… -.- I think he didn't understand the procedure…

I had 2 problems moving cms ms
1. there was no tokenizer
2. character encoding in mysql db
1. was pretty simple. write to my hosting provider
2. export it differently and everything was ok..

Hello.. I talk about the image manager again..
There is a problem (I dunno if its my server or cmsms) with the rights given toimages I upload. The rights on the image are set to 664, and for the thumb on 640 :/ and the thumb has to be 644 as you know… How do I solve this problem.. so that it puts it automatically on 644 ?
I have CMS Made Simple 1.0.8 "Kona"
see you later, I'll be back in a couple of hours….
=D

PeP`: later

What am I doing wrong if inputting the code {cms_module module='FormBuilder' form='contactus'} on the top of a blank page is returning a blank screen

have no idea…
maybe contactus form is empty?

Have created the form with all the tables - same issue with sample_form
bHave created the form with all the tables - same issue with sample_form/b
and also with ABFGallery

no idea… havent played with form bulder much

although that did work until I removed the link to replace it with contact us, now it doesnt

did you look inside html code what's there?
probably { } got encondid to something else and than smarty will not cache it
encondid/encoded

td{cms_module module='FormBuilder' form='contactus'}/td/tr/tbody/table

{} is there

wierd… so you tell us that anything between {} put into blank page is not processed?
and when it's outside the page(for example template) it gets processed?

yeah
well, I've only tried cms_module

sorry no ideat what's wrong… haven't played to much with cms ms, but you can wait till afternoon then the americas and canadians will come and help you

yo

btw what version are you using?
hey

hi Kino
how easy is it to upgrade from v1.1 of cmsms to the 1.1.1 version?

no idea… still using 1.1

hehe

but ted said it's easy

am looking now

cmsinfo upgrade

upgrade is Take a *backup* of my db and files! Copy new files over my old files. Run install/upgrade.php. Enjoy! or and you should go to Modules to see if any of reneh_work_'s modules needs upgrade.

CMS Made Simple 1.1 "Samoa"

ok - so all the modules and stuff should work straight away with 1.1.1?
I have the newletters module

really wierd I use same version… I just had problem with latin2 characters and searching, but never with {}

calendar
and form

I just tried the {cms_version} and that gives me the same problem

I belive they will

Need to go find my mouse. Took work off today with flu… am sweating shit loads. At least I can do some work tho
kino - cool

Random

try to write to the forum and when those guys over atlantic wake up they will answer hopfully

As I said, I had ABFGallery working yesterday, before I transferred it to another site, and now its not working either

I need to get random quotes on the page - I know how to do this with javascript. Would it be easy to do with php?
abf - wassat?

does the new site meets minimail requiriments?
wrong spelling again requirements
as easy as in javascript(I think in php it's easier)

I think I've cracked it
wait one

its just the whole db interaction in php.. in javascript I have all the stuff there, but just code it to show and hide each one

http://cmsmadesimple.org/pastebin/1223

previous link

thanks kino
and I could store all the quotes in a seperate text file and have em pulled in.. idea is for the client to be able to update em

Bugger - now got the gallery working by taking out the '

you have simple php script… I sugest you put into user tags and then put {your_user_tag} into template

but the forms still playing up

hi, im using top with a xrootconsole-like program. it needs uninteractive input so i need to use the -l flag. is there a way to hide the first sample as the first doesnt carry any cpu values
i'm reading up on sed, though wont sed screw up the newlines etc?

i don't see -l in man top

lindi-: oh, must be mac specific
well it is just how many samples to take
maybe its something else under linux/w/e

kick52[pm]: can you point me to the sources?

the source of top?
this is what i see in mac:
*man

samples,even if standard output is a terminal. 0 is treated as infinity. Rather than redisplaying, output is periodically printed in raw form.

kick52[pm]: the source of your top yes
kick52[pm]: since it probably works differently too

hmm, i'll see if i can find it in the darwin repo

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5551137361.html want!

hello free software' channel!

hello Fantazy

how to add a variable watch in gdbtui?
I mean, I want it to print some values after every step
oh it's display command…. never mind

display indeed

Is there a pre-amble that is shorter than our the normal pre-amble? Perhaps one to two lines at most, just to point to the AUTHORS file for a list of copyright holders and the COPYING file for the liscense?

that's not called a preamble, but copyright boilerplate I think

Is there an official way to do a boilerplate, then?

steal it from some GNU source.
put in your name.

I think it is discouraged to overly cut down on the copyright boilerplate - surely that bit of text won't kill everybody's disk space!

azeem, its not that i want a short boilerplate, but i would prefer something shorter than the pre-amble
because the pre-amble is longer than the files it would be copyrighting

how many lines is your preamble?

18 lines

how many files does your project have, and how many of them are less than 18 lines?

its mainly for our SConstruct and SConscript files. The switch to gpl 3 sent the whole mailing list in an uproar, so I want to cover all grounds to prevent any further issues with copyright in our program

in any case, is AUTHORS the definite source of copyright holders?
sometimes, it only lists major contributors, whild ChangeLog has the definite list

the project is reasnobly large, our main program source is 113 source files, plus 115 header files, plus our libgag library whish is another 15 source/header pairs, plus all of the translations, make files, documentation etc
azeem, it is
azeem, we have been maticulas about adding every contributor to the AUTHORS file
although i can't spell maticulas

heh
in the end, it depends on how legally waterproof you want your project to be
I heard one should abbreviate years like 01,02,03 or 2001-2003 instead of 2001, 2002, 2003 for legal reasons
should not*

well our project isn't in any real danger of being copied unneccarrilly, there isn't much usefull in our code, but its more to please people on our mailing list, who got in a large uproar about who actually owns copyright to glob2 and whether we could switch to gpl3 without backporting to every single contributor, many of whom gave no contact information

in that case maybe the "Copyright (c) 2006, 2007 by Foo Bar foo@bar" is the most important
plus a notice that it's GPLd, I guess you can abbreviate that if you must

ok

In GNU sources the (C) is capitalized though I have often read it has no legal meaning.

the only gnu os that will work on my system is Musix
on my laptop im trying to free my desktop
however at least im now able to use my computer for what i got it for..midi sequencing
so that's the good side

what sound hardware are you using?

just a onboard audio card
musix detected everything on my ole dell notebook now i can make some beatz while on the road
while going to raves

hmm, do they have hardware midi synthesis these days?

yah they do but i like using old fashion sequencin :0
a lot easier and less bugs

i see.

seq-24+hydrogen+my keyboards and my 303
wanna know whats funny modulus?

yeah

before i found out about gnu
i was stuck with things like windows version of cubase and mac versions and they had bugs out the *#&*%

hehe

but this nice and simple seq-24 prog is what i've been looking for in software *FOREVER* man

excellent.

so pretty much i now have a midi sequencer with NO b.s.
thanks to GNU
modulus:oh i was at a rave a few weekends ago and i was handing out MUSIX GNU cd's

cool, making converts

lol at the least obvious places too
i made 200+ copies of MUSIX because i liked it THAT much
and i just gave out copiez of GNU MUSIX to a bunch of rave kidz
i call MUSIX the GNU distro for ravers
modulus:i call it the raver distro cuz it has everything a rave kid would ever *need* in a operating system..a beat machine, a sequencer, a waveform edi9tor, etc.

yeah, the music apps are starting to come togehter in gnu.

that's a beautiful thing too man
i mean when something like seq-24 does better with midi sequencing than over-bloated cubase
(cubase used to be good when it was on the Atari ST)
and i used it then but it's taken me 5 months to set up a PC for midi sequencing …95% of it due to trouble findin software that would actually work…and whamo found it
and finally i end up with a *working* midi sequencer
beautiful isn't it?

indeed i hope you make cool music with it.

and it has much less latency than cubase's asio drivers
oh i will man
modulus:will RMS be proud of me for spreading GNU Musix at the rave i went to?
ehhe

i'd imagine so, but hey, so long as you are, that's what matters, yes?

im happy with what i did ehhe i probably freed at least ONE person
ive introduced even people on my local raver message boards to GNU Musix
modules:whatz your fav electronic music?

tbh i'm not much into electronic, but i like kraftwerk.

kraftwerk started it man
kraftwerk is awesome
im just a dj/rave kid heh

yeah, i don't listen to much music lately

btw i boycott CD's
i only buy VINYL
i dont like digital audio formats much
the real reason if any that people don't buy music as much is because it's hard to find quality music on vinyl

well, you can do some amazing shit with digital stuff, i think.

with digital audio yes but mastering in analog is what i like the best
my ears are so used to analog it's not even funny
i love that snapple and crack of vinyl the same way i like my rice crispies

Is there a strtok like function that works for utf-8 ?

doesn't strtok work for utf8?

please recommend me a Usenet client, preferably Qt-based

kmail?

ok, thanks
kmail is email-only
no news

Oh, I thought it had news too

please tell any software you like most ))

doesn't kopete include a news client?

While I don't personally use Usenet, Mozilla Thunderbird (or Icedove) has a news client
If you insist on Qt based, there is a KDE application called KNode that you might like.
Both projects I mentioned are GPLed (well, the former is tri-licensed, but GPL is one of them)

ok, I guess KNode is fine

right now i'm trying to compile glade-3 on Fedora 7. i get an error on ./configure which reads: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
i'm not sure if this is a great place to ask about this or not, but …?

sounds like you are missing a working C++ preprocessor

sp; an example of which would be…
gcc?

well, I suspect you need to install some development packages
like gcc, g++ and the glibc development package

let me query rpm a moment

I haven't used Fedora in ages so I can't really tell which packages you are missing

Fedora 7 is back to oldschool redhat styles, if that's any motivation
glibc-devel and gcc are both installed
apparently one of my repos went down… yum keeps stalling. brb.
(a non-Redhat/Fedora one)
sp; any guesses as to what else i may need?
the c++ preprocessor

I'm not entirely sure
what does `which cpp` give you and also, what does cpp –version output?

cpp –version: cpp (GCC) 4.1.2 20070502 (Red Hat 4.1.2-12)
/usr/bin/cpp

is /usr/bin/cpp a symlink? as your system seems to be using /lib/cpp
and that confuses me a bit

it is not a symlink
oh i'm sorry, it is

…/usr/bin/cpp

did you check config.log for some actual error message?
"fails sanity check" isn't very helpful

azeem; it's quite the long log. what should i be looking for other than "cpp"?

why not look for cpp?

sec.

Or just tail it

yes, the other solution
from my experience such errors are usually generated by either a broken/wrong cpp binary or, more likely, missing glibc devel files
doesn't mean it could be something entirely different causing the problem though

hey, didn't see this before. maybe i hit return on the search twice. cpp: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory
uhey, didn't see this before. maybe i hit return on the search twice. cpp: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory/u
this is what i get for skimping on picking my packages on install
hey, many thanks. i needed gcc-c++.i386
3AM, what can i

'good night' or 'good morning'
depending on whether you slept already

i haven't
w00t! Glade3 is *NICE*
thanks again, sp ^_^
except… where is the "Build" button?

what do I do to get readline to display something other than the actual line buffer (e.g. the line buffer with some colour escape codes inserted) ?
I've looked at the documentation and played a bit with overriding rl_redisplay_function, but it seems to be tricky.
Basically I'm trying to add syntax colouring to an interactive script interpreter.

hi
i need some help on autoconf
is there a way to have a macro defined in config.h ?

yes
autoheader does that I think
there's autoconf AH_ macros for that I believe

thanks azeem i'll try this out

hrm, or maybe I misunderstood your question, are you talking about C macros, or autoconf macros or what?

c++ macros

so "#define foo bar" ?

that simple ?

that was a question, what is your macro looking like?

ph
well…
#define USE_STATVFS 1
e.g.

ok, that's what autoheader is for, see above

and later i can try #ifdef USE_STATVFS; do some crazy stuff…
ye
a
thanks

Hi everybody. I was wondering, does anybody know of good free faxing software?
The platform doesn't matter.

what should i do if i want the []-brackets of my if-statement in configure.in to remain where they are in configure ?

I'm trying to write colour escape codes to the readline buffer (e.g. "33[31m"), but "33" is displayed as "^[". Is there any way around that.
It works in the prompt.
Looks like it isn't configurable. =(
http://rafb.net/p/z8JiII40.html
a href="http://rafb.net/p/z8JiII40.html"http://rafb.net/p/z8JiII40.html/a

cout

how do you think should it be able to store a negative number in an unsigned integer?

Timbooooo, what does that have to do with anything?

I'll just have to go the costly development route. Its no biggie

line 45 seems broken

how you always have to use an ExecutorFactory.getInstance().go() instead of just calling execute()

yep

Gliptic i removed it just now, and stil have 0 0 output

iterator i = mything.makeproxy().begin(); …; *i; // why does this crash?

Timbooooo, removed what?

Empty container?

how do you think should it be able to store a negative number in an unsigned integer?

PlasmaHH so just change it to int?

Zao, or proxy returned by makeproxy() gets destructed

someone that obviously doesn't understand lifetimes

after fixing the stdin thing

and forgot to use -D_GLIBCXX_DEBUG

me22, yeah he was a noob and learnt the lesson well which is all you can really ask for
_GLIBCXX_DEBUG?
iterator debugging?
mother, news to me

see the appendix in my !modern cxx
btw, http://steve.yegge.googlepages.com/google-secret-weapon is also a good read, considering he was at amazon at the time and is now at google

the sad thing about _GLIBCXX_DEBUG is that you need to compile all libraries you link to with it too :/

hey thats ok, I compile host all my libraries

what is a faster operation, increasing a value or setting it to the next value?

yes

don't worry, your optimizer will take care of that

unlikely

are you compiling to gwbasic ?

what value?

I would say incrementing is faster

never mind, it's ugly incrementing and this part of the code is not speed-critical

Is compilation usually faster if the code for member functions is into a .cpp, instead of into the .h? (assuming that code has not been modified since last compile)

Yes, it is

in the sense that it doesn't have to be compiled

there is a quite good correlation between the size of the tu in code and the compilation time

oh k ty

that's one of the main advantages of separate compilation

!ty

Ty the Handy Guy is best known as the lovable, off-the-wall, hunk-of-a-carpenter who likes to goof around on the set of Trading Spaces.

hi, how do I typedef a pointer to a function that returns void and takes void* as a parameter pls ?

typedef void (*my_func_type)(void*);

typedef void (*run)(void *) ; will not work

!pls

Pacific Laser Systems manufactures hand-held, self-levelling, laser alignment tools for contractors. http://www.plslaser.com/

geordi { typedef void (*func)(void*); cout TYPE_DESC(func); }

pointer to a function taking a pointer to anything and returning nothing

is it impossible to have class X have static value member of class X

Sure works

hah @ anything and nothing

so that it is const and "inline"

dolphin, it's surely possible

(get's optimized nice)

run what_to_run; error: run does not name a type

How can a value be inline?

looking for laser guiding measuring tools?
you came to the right place, haha

it should get its value in the header

I mean to Gliptic , but whatever, we all need a lauch

geordi { typedef void (*func)(void*); run what_to_run; }

'run' was not declared in this scope

erh
geordi { typedef void (*run)(void*); run what_to_run; }

onami, ^^
Looks like it works here
You are doing something wrong

struct X { public: static X const max; … }

You oughtn't be able to have yourself as a member by value.

what does "typename" do when used as a qualifier?

yes, it's inside a namespace, sorry and thanks

g++ just demanded that i insert it

Zao, X doesn't have a member of type X
It's static

!give Spark template-faq

http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/templates.html and http://womble.decadentplace.org.uk/c++/template-faq.html

Zao, as a static there is no reason not to be able to

!give Spark typename

See http://womble.decadentplace.org.uk/c++/template-faq.html#disambiguation for reasons to use the typename keyword

Right. Missed the static.

just tell me how to do it so the compiler can optimize
and not only optimize, but tell it by runtime
*compile time

What kind of "optimizations" is it you have in mind?

you can't define it in the header

Only static const integral members can be initialized in the class definition.

&ab);

In the expression v.assign(v.size(), -1); anything wrong with this statement? I get a segfault in the internal call of : erase(std

!

hey , could you have a look at a cover letter to tell me what you think; i'm not a native eng speaker so..
http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=21108

are there any great video tutorials for joomla ?

hey
what is this error ?
Illegal variable _files or _env or _get or _post or _cookie or _server or _session or globals passed to script.
http://mikk36.eu/

http://pastebin.ca/559606 and http://pastebin.ca/559609 look at the $return variable.. at the start of the first file i know it is ok! http://www.my-site.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10 and then the control pass to the second file.. and somewhat it drop the final part and link http://www.my-site.net/forum/ or http://www.my-site.net/forum/index.php (don't know) i thougth it was becau

evening peoples

anyone here used pagination with joomla?

wot you looking to do?

ahh, nothing, "apache -k restart" helped

im creating a lotto component which display a list of the the past lotto results, but i want to display 5 weeks results per page

would someone from the wiki guys consider putting a page about that error to the wiki ?

ah ok, your results stored within a mysql tables?

yea

to try to restart apache first
if problem arises suddenly
to restart web server (not only apache-related)

ok guys… now i'm sure the problem is somewhere here: http://pastebin.ca/559609 i managed to print the $result variable.. and' it's ok… so i think the problem is here: mosRedirect( $return ); line 167.. please can you tell me what modRedirect does?
*mosRedirect

so are there any modules that actually parse rss and turn it into news items

returns user to either the registration or login components
actually maybe it just returns the user where they came from

hum.. but it take the $return parameter.. so i think it should take the user where the $return parameter say… why it cat it?
or it isn't that that cat it?
cat.. split

not sure, im fairly new to this and php is limited so just tryin 2 c what i can

tnx anyway

any one could recomend a component to expand the user registration? Add more fields?

at least tell me where to find the source code of mosRedirect(…) function

Hello, how can I change the styling of a content page when I the user clicks the print button?
it seems to automatically choose template_css.css

ok.. i found the function http://pastebin.ca/559728 …. so… i don't think that changing this function could be a good idea.. can you explain me how to use it in a way it doesn't change my url?

(and not something like print.css)

this is a Joomla Services pure function… so you shouldn't have many problem helping me out.. isn't it?

hello danZenie
mastroDani, what's up with that code?

http://www.my-site.net/forum/ and i don't know how to work around this

are you using any SEF URL engine?

dont' know what a SEF URL engine is

mastroDani, so I don't think you'd have one

k

mastroDani, when I try to go to that URL, I get redirected to http://meanwhile.com/?domain=my-site.net&
ok, it's not really my-site.com

no…
it's www.bi-clan.net if you want to know

why don't you try going there directly and see that no redirects happen?
"The topic or post you requested does not exist"
is it being redirect somewhere else?

NN all

hum.. let me check tst_
ok.. this is the right url (pasted..) the one before was created by me as an example: http://www.bi-clan.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=18
you can see the change here: http://pastebin.ca/559754 i simply print the $url value in a file called logfile2
http://www.bi-clan.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=18 http://www.bi-clan.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=18 http://www.bi-clan.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=18 http://www.bi-clan.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=18 http://www.bi-clan.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=18&mosmsg=uffa
so it seems the url is ok
tst_:

mastroDani, so those two urls separated by a space works?

if i copy and paste the last url on the address bar it open the right page
as i expect… i doesn't understand why this doesn't happen with that code….
may be the function "header" do some sort of cutting?
i can't think of other thing if not this.. but it sound really strange to me
tst_:

hi
hey, how can I adjust the position of the contact form?
I would like to get it just a bit off the left side of the screen
padded

try contact.hml.php

hmhp
what's the emphty block in html
&auml
nope

i've checked the flux of data too… it is @ob_end_clean(); header( 'HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently' ); header( "Location: ". $url ); with the right url.. i tried this sequence of code on my php local web site and it work just fine… so i'm totally lost now
can you explain me what happen from the line 210 to the end of the file here: http://pastebin.ca/559609 ? tnx
of someone anyone
this is the index.php file of joomla
last stable version

youd be better askin in ##php

sigh.. in php they say that doesn't understand my problem…
this i joomla code
and i only want to know why the mosRedirect (joomla) function work in my local php server and don't on the remote server.. the only difference from my local server hosting and the remote one is the code from line 210 at that file

which is written in php, i only sugggested them as chances are they would be better qualified to answer your problem

and i would like to know where the problem happen

then add in the line

k.. but there are many joomla stuff there
like "mosGetParam( .. ) they will ask me for all the function…

then look up the documentation

there's a documentation so deep in details?

theres bound to be something that contains the javadoc, which will have the description in it of what each function does

guys, any one could help me with the Easy User Extended component?
I'm not finding any documentation about those core adjustments….

mastroDani, whats the function your looking to find out what it does?

any one had success used this component?

what exactly is the problem?

wanderingii.. it is simply the index.html (main file) of joomla.. it got call when i use the com_login component to return where i was before
it work just fine for joomla only
but i'm using a phpbb forum.. with the joomla-phpbb bridge..
when i'm in the forum (not logged) and i click "log in" it send me to the joomla website hosting login.. i log in and it send me back to the forum.. but to the homepage of the forum…..

not just edit the phpbb forum component to refer to the joomla users database straight

so i hacked some file.. and now i got the right $url where i want joomla to send the user back… but it keep sending to the open forum hosting homepage instead
hum.. this is far too hard.. means changing the whole phpbb user management

you mean unwrapped? I would expect to be taken to the forum home

joomla-phpbb has meant to bind all joomla user to phpbb users
i've a link.. this http://www.bi-clan.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=18 where i am.. i click login.. (and it pass via "post" the url to the joomla login page) the joomla login page pass that url to the index.php that recognise it (there's an if) and use it to redirect.. but it cout out the last part somewhere from line 210 in this file http://pastebin.ca/559609
the redirection actually take place at line 167.. and it's ok there… (i checked the inside function)
but for some reason i didn't reach the page i was expecting to reach
so i think (following the code) that there's something from line 210 that change the behaviour
guys.. this could help a lot of people that want to use joomla with phpbb if i found a way to do this i will share it on my blog and send a pm to the joomla-phpbb bridge author
so.. in some way, i'm trying to contribute to your project, isn't it?
you can try it yourself if you want.. i can create a temp user on my web site
wanderingii are you still there? or i'm writing alone?
(sorry for my english)

I cant see why line 210 should matter in this
I am thinking theres a bug between line 165-177

watch line 167.. where mosRedirect($return) is..
i've modified the mosRedirect function to print in a log file all the value.. and i know for sure it's right…
i've tried that code locally too and it workd
works
so.. the problem MUST be after that, agree?

or the if-logic so line 167 is never executed

if you watch the "if then else" chain you see that the next executed line is 210.. and from 210 to the end of file must be the problem
i know line 167 is executed because i logged all the behaviour on a log file

hi all

debugging

but then what about the cookiecheck

can i allow certain users access to only one section in joomla?

you mean line 166 ? i really don't know.. but i know that condition is verified
cause mosRedirect get called

I want to only allow our teachers access to a departmental section only

i think it simply check if a session cookie exist.. it found it and so it redirect the page as requested

you need JACLPlus or AG 2.0, look for those in JED

supergreg, thank you
then my other problem, how can i use joomla for more than one domain?

ok, if the problem is indeed on line 210, just comment out and try until you find it.. I can't spot any specifics, sorry..

i am using forwarding hmtl pages at the moment but want to do it like joomla.org does it

ok.. no prob.. i'm doing some more debug.. anyway i don't know if the problem is on 210 or AFTER 210.. i know it is NOT before 210 but i think that if that code is there should exist some reason.. and commenting it out could be a bad idea

Yes, I meant as debugging, not as a solution

….. the ftp stopped working …
can't debug it that way.. my services isn't very good
hope it come back in a few minutes
old on
hold
si ma che minchia scrivono 99.9 up time sull'homepage?
99.9 nei loro sogni
sorry.. wrong channel

italiano

yup
no.. it's not there the problem
i't doesn't pass from line 210.. like if the redirection stop that code to been executed.. it is possible?
now i'm completely lost

yes, if redirected earlier, that would make sense, right?

the redirection code is right.. on my local php installation workd
works
i checked the right url reach the redirection
but the redirection doesn't happen right
that's weird
i need a joomla/php guru
ehheheh

what exactly does mosRedirect do?

http://pastebin.ca/559754
exactly this:

you can always try #joomla-dev but you will need to wait some hours for a response there

take an url… do some check on it and then redirect the page with the last 3 line (in the else part of the if… ) i checked and the url reach that point right… and go to the "else" section
i've pasted the $url = stuff and that 3 lines on a little page locally here on my php web server and it works like a charm
so i can't understand why here don't
that's driving me mad
the only difference from here and the online server is that here i'm on linux with apache and php.. the web server is on windows with IIS
i'm starting to thing that could be there the problem

thats easy to try?
just make a static redirect-script?

how?

http://pastebin.ca/559951

and then supergreg ?
that file work locally

yes, try it on the server

oh..
right..
i try
i'm doing it
wait
d'oh..
it work
either on the server
that's completely crazy
this couldn't be real lol
may be it's better if i go sleep
thanks for the help
will try with joomla-dev tomorrow
thank you very much
supergreg:
bye all

hey all. Is there a module that will allow users to upload and download private documents that only the admins can see and edit?

so are there any modules that actually parse rss and turn it into news items
true on the site news and not a feed

how do i remove the header of the site that is in my wrapper
actually the site is also a part of the original site

DrDigital, are you planning to release 1.5 soon then?

hmm
i wonder who he thinks i am

ol
*lol

hey Geof the none photographer using joomla guy
hows it going

alright, you ?

depressed
i have to wait till october for the new Mac OS X
songs like you are my only sunshine run through my head

…

….

howdy
I want to build a membership database for a club with 4000 members
is there a module for Joomla that can be scalable for such a database?

okay this 1.5 is different

I see something called "community builder"
can that handle that many users?

what is a model, helper and views in a component?
Community builder can probably handle millions of users

ok…
we need to be able to add custom fields
and make custom reports/forms for different levels of users
can CB handle that?

I don't know

hmm

you should install it on a development server and try it out

guess I should download it and RTFM
yeah
I plan to
I am trying to build a database for 3800+ members of a Star Trek Fan Club
and break them down into 200+ chapters around the world
be able to have the Chapter President log in and manage his members
be able to have the member log in and manage his info
be able to have the Regional Coordinator log in and manage his Chapters
and I want to do it all in Open Source Software.

sounds like something that might need custom development

Preferably Joomla because the org already runs it as their CMS
I can hack stuff into submission, my PHP skillz are such… can't write my own, though, sadly
also would need to have the Brass be able to log in and manage Regions.. you get the drift

morge

where do I edit the standard category layout? (1.5)
views/category/tmpl?
yup thats it
ah I've been out of php programming for 4 months now
its great to be back
and its dead in here

ok
so I got Community Builder
but I need more…
CB is just not scalable enough for what I need
is there a Joomla component out there that can create custom forms and reports?
basically using the Joomla db but doing custom stuff?
I found several… but they are all commercial
need open source

Anyone know if Joomla has a cron implmemntation or job scheduling of sorts?

why don't you just use cron?

hey CraZy675

ah
civicrm
reading

hey DrDigital

whats up stranger

it has been a while
blah I've been busy and lazy

i figured you died
or meet a girl

marring the one i've known for years
actually

amazing

not really

and here i want to bury the one i known for years
id order like six kegs
and 3 strippers
and two whores

much like my bachelor party

i asked her 4 times to pack her stuff and leave
id get her a studio apartment

hi, I'm completely new to joomla
I've my PHP application, ned to inject it with joomla
is there any link or tutorial for that ?

?? component

component[x]: No definition found for word.

?? tutorial

Component/mambot/module tutorials: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,63383.0.html

ha there you go

yes, I've my complete php application, I need to add the whole application

hi all

thats called a component unless you want to do a bridge

I'm trying to figure out how to get the contact form 10 pixels out of the left side where it now lies
I have tried to edit the contact.html.php with no luck
eh??

anybody has configure virtuemart for credit cards?

Crash
What payment gateway do you use?

i am looking for authorize.net, eProcessingNetwork and Pay-me-now
but I don't know how to create an account
is only for United States?

wait a sec

thanks
BlackKnight which payment gateway are you looking?

Crash
R u there

yes

see pm

what does it mean pm?

private message

i can't see private message

how
You must see it
ok here is on public
http://www.authorize.net/solutions/merchantsolutions/onlinemerchantaccount/
look at that
there you have all you ned to make acc on authorize.net

so I have to make a merchants account?
thank you very much
i am going to contact them to make an account

Ok
If I can help just say

thanks

hello
anyone using pattemplate extensively withe xtended menu?

heya all
i might have a stupid question
is there any way that i can display a custom page as joomla frontpage ?
I just discovered joomla
uhm anyone alive arownd here ?

put it as the first link in your mainmenu

ty
but what about when i`m loading the page ?

what do you mean

it won`t be the default frontpage the index.php ?
when i`m typeing the url like www.domainname.ext it will load the default www.domainname.ext/index.php wich it will be the default frontpage i guess ?

if you call your website by ;ttp://www.yoursite.com/
yes
index.php will take the first link in your mainmenu

great
Kage_Musha may i query you ?
as private message ?

sure

where is a good place to find the code for a div based button that is "dynamic" using 3 images…left, middle, right
i can do it with tables but i want todo it with div's

#css ?

heh

I've got a problem with javascript and xhtml strict. If I declare the html page 'transitional' it works well, but when i change it into 'strict' doesn't work no more!!!The address of the page is http://www-utenti.dsc.unibo.it/~alessia.macchiarola/ig/index.html. The javascript code is in the same path with name 'codice.js'. Can someone help me, please?

I want to have an input box similar to " input type='text' " but I want it multiline, like a memo almost.. what do I use?

Hello.

here but I need to put div instead.

and it still tells me that. How come?

hmm.. appears to be 93 idlers in here

lol
Am I allowed to put text inside a form tag?
Or anything other than input and textarea etc

or any other text there

??

nevermind efnet seems to be better than this hole

is there any method via JavaScript to access the padding value of an element where the padding is defined in the class of the element? I.E. I have a div currently of class "someclass." I want to find out the padding value. It's not in the style attribute because it's been set in the class. Is this possible?

hey hey

Nevermind, I found it.
You must load the style sheet with an id tag and then you can use document.getElementById('sheetId') to get it.

hello all
is it possible to have borders for a table but also for some of it's cells not all of them ?

guys, can anyone recommend some good css/html blogs for me pls ?

range requests usually granted on pages ?
are range requests*
as in something ud use for resuming downloads?
anyone

can someone tell me a way to message nickserv automatically with my pass so i dont have to do it every time i login?

I doubt you use the same IRC client as I do, so that would be pointless

do u understand my question ?

I was talking to Celsius
but I do understand your question
But I have no idea

ah, thats cool, mmmm wonder what channel i shud be in

Is there a way I can tell a table that's in a cell of another table to take 100% of the available height?

hi

legal in xhtml 1.1?

why would you use xhtml 1.1?

I am using the clearfix method, is there a way to restrict its clearing to children
rather than all elements

Is there a way I can tell a table that's in a cell of another table to take 100% of the available height?

wtf.. where i have to put it in?

nested tables… that sounds very evil

neither in

gregorycu, evil or not I need it to work this way
And I need the tabke to take up 100% of the space in the cell it's in

what's the tag for skipping to a certain point on a page? IE: if I do index.html?#gotome … it's something like a ???="gotome"

name=

id="gotome"
and it doesn't need to be a

Where can I ask about Google indexing?

Mr Page

Or Mr. Brin.

that it simply counts the tag as unclosed and the rest of the document becomes its child

Is this some strange spec behavior?
^^meant to type in #xhtml

omg

?

not in

link?

regrettably no. Internal project, VPN etc.
I'll bring it up again if I can get an example live somewhere.

peoplòe..

tag

elsewhere
in xhtml 1.1
…

why are you using xhtml 1.1?

to have struct in html files
and styles in css
just because i'm starting
to learn correctly

it's cause of the X isn't it?

??
xhtml 1.0 transitional
allows some things
that 1.1 doesn't

use html host 4.01 strict

you don't need xhtml

but i would like to code in xhtml

why?

x = xperience
ahah

it's cause of the X huh?

give me two good reasons

i knew it

dunno
xhtml is more like xml

sounds like you just want to use HTML to me

yes i do

html

so if i'll need
in future

why do you think that?

to use xhtml features

1.1

there will be no problem
ahah

hi fellows
can you help me in listing directories dynamically?
some references, so that I can read something about this

and . both mean the same thing in php?

you should ask in #php
but no

http://www.zzee.com/art-html-listing/samples/classic.html

called?

?
gnight

hi
i have 2 images in a DIV 1 with id="xx" how do i get that img to move right alot
bi have 2 images in a DIV 1 with id="xx" how do i get that img to move right alot/b
fixed isnt working

hello

that open a page inside, i try target='contenu' it's false, is someone can help me

hey folks
is there a tag (link?) to reference related sites to the document?

hello everybody, will the contents be added to each other if there are 2 metas named keywords please ?

I don't know how to open the page exemple.html in a definitive frame. I defined a flash button target for the mainframe, but when I go to preview the page, exemple.html is opened in a new page.
I am using dreamweaver
Flash buttons not loading page in specified frame
please

Leave your WYSIWYGs at the door - in topic of channel … and i haven't used dreamweaver since version 2 so i probably can't help

is_null ok
html code … how would be?

you can check the links in channel topic (type /topic to read it), it's links to official or at least correct documentation

http://kestas.dreamhosters.com/WikiSite/category.html
can someone offer their opinion on the palette, and the layout and so on?

Point a browser at - ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/xchat-win32/ (I Love the way it displays the content) don't use an ftp client… What script does he use? Anyone know?
I guess I'll try php..

Hi2uall!
Are there any light embeded shoutbox codes out there, very small and interesting…

I'd ask #web

Oh,
sorry for that!

]listamatic % reisio

tnx.

how do i ask a site for its webserver being used?
like what commadn do i run on photo.net

you could use magic

so that it returns the web server name?

sounds like a job for #web
or ##linux

bonjour ç tous
je n'arrive pas à trouver le code pour insérer un flux video diffusé par vlc

Linux?

oui
mais la pge doit étre lu sous n'importe quel pc

ah
un moment

pas de souci
j'ai mis le pluging vlc mais ça fonctionne pas

Anglais? http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Using_the_Right_Markup_to_Invoke_Plugins

non

moment

mon flux est mms://192.168.1.100:8080

Flash est-il une option?

non je peux difuser en mms, en udp et là je diffuse en mms

1mom

oui oui pas de souci
tu trouve quelque chose?

http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=comment+object+embed+asf+flux&btnG=Rechercher&meta=

je regarde ça

il est complexe, et je sais seulement l'anglais bien :/ :p

pas de souci

1min
fyi - Flash est plus simple et plus fiable pour employer

oui mais vlc n'envoie pas en flash

oh, vlc serveur?
Je crois que vous pouvez contenir un ASF à l'intérieur de Flash

mais pas sous vlc

Aucun besoin. Vous pourriez avoir un récipient instantané séparé qui utilise votre flux de VLC. (traduit?)
Je suis assez sûr, quoi qu'il en soit.

ok mais au niveau du lecteur sur lap age

qui?
Il y a une personne dans #xhtmlfr - peut-être il peut être plus utile
'Bronsky'

je vais voir merci

if i have multiple checkboxes… how can i setup a 'check all' link
is that using javascript ?

il répond pas

or is it possible with html?

:/
##javascript

ok so it's javascript only

I don't know the syntax, but it will be very simple

i just wanted to know if it were possible with html

don't think so
#web is a nice bridge between #html and ##javascript

hi
block) but still display beside the checkbox?

is there any way i can set the vertical scrollbar of a page always on?

hey all

overflow-y: scroll; works in some browsers
I think Opera has some quirks with that
html { height: 100.1%; } might be more portable

reisio, thank you

really Opera has such a small market share…
and is such a goofy browser :p wouldn't worry about it

are there any good free html designer apps? I'm absolutely horrible at making good html designs, but would rather not use notepad

display: block; margin-right: foo;
any decent graphics editor will suffice for _designs_
for code, you should really use a text editor

hmm

there are no decent WYSIWYG editors

i see

there are some "CIY" editors, which you may or may not find useful

and the use of CSS is encouraged as well right?
CIY?

Aptana, TopStyle, etc.
"code it yourself"
silly acro, eh? :p

heh

yes, CSS for layout, HTML for meaning
]layout

http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssLayouts , http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/ , http://glish.com/css/ , http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ , http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/

thanks
any good tutorials on beginning html hosting design?
http://browse.deviantart.com/designs/web/
basically, those are images of site designs. so someone would basically edit the html with notepad and use image slices?

that's not that simple, you need to absolutely position the checkbox if you set display:block on the label.. and then you need a container element

yeah
it is that simple
and label can be the container element, if you want
but obviously you'd have a container element regardless
rather demanded by the standard

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/60076624/ can the blue part at the top basically be an image as the background of a table and then use white text over it?
a href="http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/60076624/"http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/60076624//a can the blue part at the top basically be an image as the background of a table and then use white text over it?

yes, but it shouldn't be a table
looks like a header to me
I'd probably use an h1 element
actually probably h2

an h1 element with bgimage?

'sim editing team' looks like h1 :p
yup

i didn't know that was possible

]ir @ sabitta

ir: www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/

you can give most elements backgrounds

oh no way…

:p

i think I stopped at HTML 1.0 in 1994,

you want your HTML to make proper sense without CSS

ok i'll experiment some more… thank you for the help

np
]rollover

http://wellstyled.com/css-nopreload-rollovers.html , http://devilock.mine.nu/pixie/ , http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation-matrix-reloaded/

best text editors? anyone?

Depends on the text to be edited and the user.

HTML

]layout % reisio

madisonsquare, os ?
bah. doesn't really matter… vim
but it depends on the user, as noss said

are there any free html templates that can at least help me with some initial designs?
there has to be a site with some basic html host site designs that I can use to jump-start…
]template
found www.openwebdesign.org

]layout @ sabitta

Examples with proper markup and CSS: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssLayouts , http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/ , http://glish.com/css/ , http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ , http://webhost.bridgew.edu/etribou/layouts/

hello, I've got a page that's validated html 4.01 strict, looks fine in safari and firefox, in ie6, there's a purple box around the logo. any ideas?

those are CSS, im looking for downloadable index.html with CSS and images… so i can just add my own images and rewrite the text

a img { border: 0; }
so you want more images?

awesome, thanks

well something along the lines of openwebdesign.org

sounds pretty boring :p
is openwebdesign.org not oswd.org ?

haha, it's great… i just have to change a couple of values
think it's different
it would take me a week to do up one of those

dont know if its the right channel to ask, but here goes… if i send a POST as multipart/form-data, what content-type does regular text parameters have? text/plain? how about encoding?

try #web
@http://www-utenti.dsc.unibo.it/~alessia.macchiarola/ig/index2.html

(www-utenti.ds…) HTML: Failed (3 errors, see http://tinyurl.com/2txfrh ) | CSS: Valid [2 warnings] ( http://tinyurl.com/yq6p6q ) | DOCTYPE: HTML 4.01 Trans | (MIME: text/html, text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1)

$http://www-utenti.dsc.unibo.it/~alessia.macchiarola/ig/index2.html

can anyone give me a hand with css?

….I lost my hands in the war…

hi whats the code for putting a faicon in your website?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon#Standardization

oh ok thanks.