I have a debian box connected to internet with eth21 interface and Id like to allow a computer connected on eth2

welcome

hrm, now I've lost the scrollback too .

isn't here some debian project...females...hmm, i can not remember.

which client?

!female
no?
ok
!girl

freeone3000, i thought i could fix that with apt-get install girl

edistar, XChat

lol
have you played super paper mario?

lol xD

does it run on debian?

does anyone use wine (the not-an-emulator)? is it difficult to make work?

yes
mupen64+paper mario rom

quel..
it is a little cumbersome

there is a part in the game where a boss is using a command based rpg and he uses a command like that

you like mario?

it can be a bitch, i consider it a hit and miss affair.

* the !girl thing
yes

I'd like to run the good old office suit (winword 2 and excel 5) instead of these stupid new ones like office xp and openoffice

i love my Wii

well enough, i suppose. i haven't liked the newer rpgs though.

office xp is horrible

best way to find out is to try.

so.. stoned are you?

I love legend of 7 starts
what?

does using old programs made for win31 make it better than newer winnt-based ones?

good luck then

dare i ask whats wrong with modern Free office suites?

thanks

consider crossover

smrpg!

hey
you

um, weil,

I like ppracer :P

they're missing some features

try abiword
its good stuff

and I'm not really familiar with them either

features such as...?

i dunno what you want

I'll still leave openoffice there of course

free office suits are just as good as anything else

hiho wha do rm -rf/*???
some guy say do it called talaturen

you have to play super paper mario is you like mario rpg

or do not want to take the time to learn what different in the new stuff

let me try to name some, though they might just be things I haven't found out how to do

hiho anyone answer?

as typed, throw an error. if you type it right, it deletes your whole system.

if*

fuck

in oocalc, you can't use R1C1 style addressing, only A1 style

change your nickname cuz youre not a chick

good job i didnt do it

its annoying looking at it

what?

you didn't see anything strange about using rm and the root of your drive?

why?

I recently had to edit a macro but as it can't record old excel style macros I had to edit that wierd oobasic code without proper docs

Im new to Debian.

may i suggest you learn how to use debian , there are a few command line tuts around

I mean even visual basic and corelbasic are better than that stuff, because they're documented

who told you that?

why would you say that stoned?

Talaturen

does anyone know why my fetchmail inside mutt can't read mail while fetching it at the same time ?

because i like mario?

next thing, I couldn't find out how to insert specila characters in the text in the presentation oo

Jonny?
Jonny, what?

there is an insert special dialog but you can't choose characters by number

you try trick me do rm rf /*

no?

does anyone know why my fetchmail inside mutt can't read mail while fetching it at the same time ?

on quakenet server

thats pretty sexist if you feel that way

.........

!beer SR71-Blackbird

locks. where do you store your mail?

only those few that are in the graphical list, and you can only search them very badly too
so I couldn't insert a damned thin space

engrish is hard to read btw

thanks. ok it's in /var/mail/
haha.
!beer wols

but I admit that my familiarity with ms office is also a factor
I don't want to relearn everything

what debian version?

!beer tbamr

etch

!debgames

it has been said that debgames is debian games installable by apt-get are listed at http://debianlinux.net/games.html

most likely fetchmail locks your /var/mail mbox file

umm..

this is exactly why i said it sucks to be a girl...

then stop whining and just don't advertise the fact and you'll be treated like everyone else.

just stop it, ok? nobody cares if you're a girl or not... just help and be helped.. not sulk

I'm guessing ladyboy angsty from opression

nice one

i'm sorry but i just didn't appreciate stoned's comment

and of course I have some nostalgy too
I'll try to read the wine docs now
if it doesn't work I could also try a virtual machine like qemu or vmware, but that's clumsier

i'm working on a multi boot xbox
i like qemu

we don't support xboxes cause it doesn't run debian

how does it not run debian?
Xebian is just a port

xbox doesn't use debian

!xebian

http://www.xbox-linux.org/Xebian - ML http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists

that's where you get support. Xebian != debian

Xebian link in that factoid is broken
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Xebian thats better

i have read the entire thing

xebian is http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Xebian - ML http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists

...but xebian is already something else...

then you would have read this part: Xebian is maintained by Edgar Hucek. Contact him for project-related questions or offers of assistance. For support and usage-related questions, please use the Mailing Lists or the IRC channel (#xbox-linux in OFTC.net (http://www.oftc.net/oftc/infrastructure/)) instead.

but i also know that like 99% of things are compatable

we don't care. now go away

what s your problem?

and talk to all 3 bots?
i have tried the xebian support for a year now

linuxchick is OT and is whining

not much i'm just trying to mount a usb dvd

that is not our problem. ask the MS support. they sold you the trash

be nice

fuck off
nice enough?

it's debian

it's xebian

no it isn't.

/msg based on debian
no go and troll elsewhere

which isn't debian. only debian is debian.

/msg dpkg based on debian

i have never had a problem running anything debian can the exacrt same way
exact

This is open source. If you do not do things the Debian way then you are clearly a rebel.
Or something.
Co-operation is not an option.

yes but what about aking debian questions?

I don't know.

it's fine if you don't do things the debian way, encouraged even. just don't expect support here then

you will get debian answers
if they don't work, then you're SOL.

i also have a debian only computer

we've long ago answered your question, also.

i know
i'm not asking for anymore help
i'm just talking now

It's funny, that.

so you re a girl ?

i'm just trolling now

These channels (any chanenl, really) insist they're not a support channel, but then always assume you're after support.

we do?

we ARE a support channel

I was chatting amiably in #Asterisk the other day and they kept trying to solve a problem I didn't have.

this channel *IS* a support channel.

er, this IS a support channel

stop being OT

i asked my question and got my answer
i'm just happy to sit and listen now

Ah yes, OT, that most heinous of crimes.

so why are you still talking then?

Heaven forbid anybody should just chatter.

because i was asked questions

chatter on a 700 people channel gets messy if some of them need support. please respect that

why don't you just stop this discussion?

no disrespect but i have only seen about 5 people talk in here

Because it's Sunday afternoon, I'm bored, and nothing is happening.

!sunday

Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane.

Should a couple of hundred people descend on the channel to start asking whatever inane questions they can come up with, I'll probably find something better to do.
OT! OT!
Unless your house runs Debian I suppose...

i run debian

it runs xebian, is it ok ?

i also run xebian

i have an idea, just kick everyone here, then there shouldn't be any problem whatsoever anymore .P
:P

isn't that something heinous unspeakable non-debianish?
^^

I don't think so. Keep quiet about it, though, and perhaps nobody will notice.

it's been done before

so what i am asking isn't off topic

i have an idea. how about learn how to get the usb-dvd working in your debian box.

anything i resolve with my debian computer i will also apply to my debian pc
thats what i am trying to do
i never said i was asking for xebian help
i just stated i was working on a project

So - what are the pros and cons of hacking ifupdown to configure the interfaces file from debconf rather than manually?

that would be a 'bad hack', the way you are trying to get support

Given that the 'adminstrator' of the machine I build will be a daemon of some sort.

thats not what i am doing
i have like 6 projects going on right now and i was just saying the xebian one because i thought you guys would think it was interesting
i need help with my debain amd sempron 2800+

it's ok

That one might be allowed.

what is exactly the problem then?

Is there still a "security" repository? I just found out that there was no longer a non-us.

I don't remember signing a rules waiver when I wandered in but I guess we all must have.

i'm sorry if i dont explain myself well

Perhaps it was like one of the MS EULAs that apply even though they're on the inside of the box.

yes, non-us was there due to US crypto export law, the laws got laxed and it is not needed anymore

there is only the us one

i'm not good with communication

don't ramble, just start

and i get tossed a lot for it

and there is a "security" repository?

the us repo

Speaking of communication, you can use 'tossed' like that.

there is security.debian.org, yes

so while i'm working on my pc i cant chat in here with you guys?

thanks

Methinks perhaps you are not British.

you can but don't create problems everywhere :P

i'm working then need advice work need advice...

thanks

ok thanks

so what exactly is the problem then?

i really want to fit in the secure linux web hosting world but i always mess it up

/var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/C/CharterBT-BoldItalic.pfa is a dangling symlink, which is the cause of iceweasel crashing
how do I find out where that came from?
what is the proper way to remove it?

there is not really a problem i just dont know how to mount a usb dvd drive

Perhaps you are not arrogant enough.
You need an ego bigger than the internet to fit in properly.

i'm still reading about it
lol
ok fuck you pricks!

Now we're getting somewhere

mount it on startup always, or only once?

can you two just message each other, Ch0Hag / linuxchick.

i want an auto mount

That wouldn't be nearly as much fun.

please keep it on-topic
have a look at ivman

I'd miss all the join/part spam.

he wouldn't know what to do with me alone
lol

I presume the kernel has seen the device and created the node in /dev?

compiled kernel (with source at kernel.org) then did yaird -o initrd.img-2.6.21-5 but the new initrd is 75% smaller then previous

what does "uname -r" say?

Perhaps, perhaps not, but the other half would certainly be rather upset.

please keep it on-topic

2.6.18-4-686 was 4.3mb this is 1.3mb

have a look in the initrd, its just a cpio

I have a debian box connected to internet with eth21 interface and I'd like to allow a computer connected on eth2 to reach the internet too, usually I simple follow the Masquerading Made Simple HOWTO but I wonder if there's a debian-way to do that. Does it exist?

but it will work ?

i have a hp compaq nx8220 that does not wake up from suspend to ram (black screen) - what can i do to make supend to ram work correct?

then you can compare your custom to the debian stock - see what the difference is

s/simple/simply

/msg dpkg ipmasq

Package ipmasq if you want something basic.

try thunar-volman, as you'e running xfce

A full-on firewall like shorewall is probably a good idea though.

why ?

nothing.....

Because a firewall is always a good idea.

3 shorewall

always is a heavy word

cast, why also yaird says unknown kernel version if i type yaird -o initrd.img-2.6.21-5 2.6.21-5 ?

And because my latest project involves much shorewall hackery, so I want to spread my misery uh joy among as many others as I can.

does /lib/modules/2.6.21-5 exist?

how do i copy a bunch of directories recursivly and keep the paths absolute? cp /mnt/hda1/back/d/s/s/sa/ . and still have in the . directory mnt/hda1/s/s/s/sa?

Helo!

Will a format totally void my chances of using disk forensic techniques to get at some deleted files?

hey

is still building modules

is any advisable advantage storing you're bind zone fdata in mysql ?

the debian box itself is connected to a WiFi router that is connected to an eth router that is connected to another router I don't think my box is easily reached from the internet

no, but it'll make it harder.

ch0nag...

Da?

no dice

and make sure you're added to the plugdev group

krazykit, any tools you suggest?

The kernel says nothing when you plug it in?

what does "uname -r" say?

what can i do to make etch comming back from suspend-to-ram?

i'm not that advanced

nope. when i delete something important, i usually swear a lot.

I fired up winecfg and is surprised that it's a windows program

the whole thing is I'm going to install debian on the ibook so I won't be able to use airport extreme anymore, thus I have to share an ethernet card of the debian box

I see.

anyone knows this please?

i just need a usb mount gui

wine is funny like that

Can you build backports from Lenny the same as you would from Sid?

you aren't advanced enough to type "uname -r" into a prompt?

Past that stage krazykit :P

yes

sure, no inherent difference

it said command not found

Okay, thanks

what may surprise you more is that it's a .exe.so rather than a windows executable

airport extreme is a broadcom card, isn't it? there might be drivers for it

run dmesg|grep scd (or dmesg|grep sr) to see if its found /dev/scd0 or /dev/sr0, which will be your usb drive.

that'd be a great news

so it's a windows program that won't run on windows.

I presume the xbox's internal dvd drive is neither scsi nor sata.

oh, I don't really care about its internals, I'm just surprised that it looks and behaves like a windows program

what said command not found?

and yes, it is Broadcom

i'd check lspci to see the exact chipset. i THINK it's bcm43xx, but i'm not sure

obviously it won't run on other windows version than wine

i'm not worried about xbox

I have to install deb first

Oh are you on a PC now?

i have a ide lg 20x dl dvd burner

and I need an internet connection as I'm going to netinst

IDE is fine. That'll be /dev/h* not /dev/s*

in a usb enclosure

ah. that'd complicated it wouldn't it :P

s* is scsi, which includes sata and usb

can you please answer stew?

why ?

stew, so i must create initrd *AFTER* when make modules finishes ?

uname
-r

cuz you still have to set up ipmasq or whatever. i thought you had debian installed already.

uname fails? That's not good.

pm ch0nag?

uname is a core command which will be available.

the command is 'uname -r' one command, one line

yes. and in general the recommended thing to do would be to use make-kpkg, and pass it the --initrd option, this will create a debian package that automatically builds an initrd when it is installed, /msg dpkg kp

I have debian on the compatible

it has been running for years

it did nothing then went back to my root

drive

stew, i skipped make-kpkg 'cause boot begins from a cd

that is, which one I should try first and try the other if it fails

check appdb.winehq.org

ah.

Installer. You very likely have libraries all over your system drive.

could specify your windows install as your wine root, too

ipmasq doesn't do dummy-config

Paste the uname command.
But not in here.
People will get upset if you flood the channel.

obviously I'd copy all of my system root, but it would clash a bit with wine's windows directory as the path of both is cwindows

uname -a is one line..

uname should work on anything resembling unix

Start a trend if you want :P
Anyway I wanted a bit of context, because apparently this command is failing.

I have a copy of my whole working dos/win31 system which got quite stable and unchanging in the years as I started to use linux a lot

dpkg says "If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy." and I did it, but what interfaces are NATted now?

okay, suppaman

I'm not that happy

dpkg forget says "If all you want

i forgot says "if all you want

I think it masq's everything over whatever provides your default route.

the debconf ipmasq ran asked you for a public interface

Could be wrong though.

it didn't
it asked for PP
PPP

then ppp it is

And if you wanted ethernet, you can just live with ppp and be happy with it.

is one of your itnerfaces with a public IP?

and I obviously said "no" to PPP

cause there can only be one

however, apart from its own libraries and not moved to another path, I know winword doesn't require too many windows drivers because I've started it on win95 without reinstalling

can you stop trolling?

public i.e. on internet ?

Sorry.

yes

I keep forgetting that conversation is banned.

though I didn't actually use it that way, I installed a separate winword to win95

nope, the debian box has two interfaces 192.168.0.18 and 192.168.2.18 both local

there's #debian-offtopic if you fancy conversation

is it annoying that I'm talking about windows stuff here? is there a wine support channel?

You vill not have zee sense of humour!

which one has default route? and why do you want NAT on a box with only local interfaces?

http://appdb.winehq.org/ won't respond to me

because 192.168.0.1 route to the internet

anyone have any pownce invites left?

then it probably uses that. but that doesn't answer my question: you already are most likely behind a NAT. why another one?

again I'm going to lost WiFi connection on the ibook as I'm going to install debian so I have to share the connection from the linux box to get the packages for netinst

try using cxoffice (wine-based) that supports all redmon's office suite up to office 2003

ISTR ipmasq trying to be clever about local networks. Invariable clever software never is, but I think there's a relatively straightforward way around it.
Try dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq

makes no sense. you are already behind a ANT, why double it?

still I think unless I read something in the docs that make me change my mind, I'll try the installers first

*ANT

please keep it on-topic

You may need to specify the priority with dpkg-reconfigure -plow ipmasq

if you read what I wrote it makes sense, let me explaing again: I'm on an ibook and willing to install debian

low is the default prority anyway

what tool do I use to get a list of all dangling symlinks in a dir tree?

anyone know a site for free webhosting ?

this is a dual-boot windows machine and there's another windows-only machine in the house so I don't think I need that
I can run office xp on them

ask elsewhere

I thought so, but I wasn't sure.

so what u need from wine '

ah, they're offline.. seems they're doing some upgrades (winehq.com)

actually the ibook is connected via Airport but I'll (probably) loose wifi connection for lack of drivers so I have to use eth, I have a debian box here that will remain connected via wifi so I'm going to share an ethernet port of its

the good old office suits that were before redmond started to go downhill
and some nostalgy
thanks

i'm sorry i'm falling asleep

is it better ?

no. for what you want a bridge is suited btter, but nvm. NAT will work

should I say yes to the pppd question ?

i've been up 20 hours now

Only if you use ppp.

and I still have openoffice 2 and if it fails I can use google documents to convert winword/excel docs

no. you don't have ppp

i'm going to sleep

a bridge between what ?

Then go to bed. It'll all be clearer in the morning.

thanks ch0nag

your 2 NICs

yes

Everything always is.

hope to see you in here later

so u just wanna be able to run office'95 && 97 ? and without a reson for it ?

night/day

no, winword 2 and excel 5 and possibly winword 6
you know, I worked on a spreadsheet with excel calc yesterday
oo calc that is
and I got angry on it

why would you want to run win31 office software?

they're good
they have almost all the features in the newer ones

Is "because I want to" not enough?

that's not an AP actually, the real situation is 192.168.0.1 (router) - WiFi router with two ifaces 192.168.0 and 192.168.1 - debian box with two ifaces 192.168.1 and 192.168.2

except that of course they can't read the formats of the newer ones

Also, I would bet good money that wine has a much easier time with them than their modern bloated incestuous cousins.

so bridgin the two ifaces on the debian box would lead me to be like directly connected to the WiFi router but still on 192.168.1

the only improvement in later winwords is the better handling of bulletting and numbering

your debian has 2 NICs. you can bridge them. if you want. but nvm. double (or triple?) NAT will work

yes let's got with NAT

and excel has a minor improvement too namely merged cells

s/got/go/

but apart from that the old ones are better
however, rest assured that I don't want to use the old offices exclusively

ok so why don't you try running with cross over ?

And, of course, MS office costs money. Which is a waste when you've no reason to upgrade.

I'll still have openoffice and office xp
cross over?
what does that mean?

some kind of re-styled wine

Does word/excel have trouble installing in wine?

I'm at the pppd question, and I say no, right ?

I don't know, I'm just starting to do it
so I don't know if it has problems

which is "made-to-support" m$ suites

you already got your answer. twice

I'd go for the installer then.

yep, I think I'll go with that too

I reckon it'll go fine. Windows 3 software was never as weird as 9x and up.

but I first read some of the wine docs
and do some wine config

You can always backup your .wine in case anything goes horribly wrong.

ok, I just wanted to make it step-by-step

yea, and that old software is also more stable

so it warns me that ipmasq will recompute rules if a /etc/ipmasq/ppp file is present
then it asks when ipmasq should be started and I say after ifaces are brought up

how much memory can win31 applications use with wine?
I think with win311 I was limited to 32M or 64M

I suggest asking in #winehq

wine is a secure linux web hosting process and has not such limits. we don't know about windows limits

Wine's Windows 3.1 support is rather weak afaik as it's not been touched for centuries

oh thanks
for some reason I couldn't find the channel
it doesn't need to be touched really. win311 worked perfectly for me for a very long time without having to be touched

so you said it probably uses the right interface

I stopped using it when you could no longer get drivers for it
especially video card drivers

win 3.1 already has the win32 api

just check yourself

in a separate program only

no
it had win32s. cut down vresion of win32

any acpi gurus in here?

!anyone

polls

b_jonas, Erm, I was talking about Wine, not Windows 3.1 itself

Why did they change FireFox, to "IceWeasel" --- was Mozilla going to sue Debian??

update-grub just updates the boot menu and would report errors if some were found?

For what exactly?

Mozilla.com requested it, yes

amon__, No, it's because Moz Foundation is anal about anyone applying patches for any reason

azeem, :/
Heh, next they will probably take all that volunteer work and close the code

well since i got no answer to my question i was stating i a little more general :-)

stew, now modules has finished, did make modules_install and /lib/modules/2.6.21.5 is populated but still the initrd created by yaird is 1.3mb in size

then there will be a fork. moz foundation trademarked their images and names and won't allow anyone to use them if they don't use binaries directly from mozilla.com

Will the volatile gpg key be included in future releases?

in order to install debian, i tried to run gparted resizing ntfs partition, but im gettings ntfsresize error 22. it says to read the ntfsresize faq, but the site for that file seems to be down: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html - :-(

oh, sorry
but still

I see, well besides IceWeasel I think i'm going to stick to Opera, sure it's close source - but it has always been - Mozilla seems to be taking all that volunteer work and slamming the doors behind them.

if win31 support was great once, I don't see why it would have to be touched
as win31 didn't change either and the programs I'll run neither

because wine evolved and the win31 didn't get updated for it

that's not possible

why does the size of the initrd matter?

b_jonas, Hopefully it should be great then

this is called `bitrot'

yep, that's true
well, I'll try

valdyn, I think you'd be surprised what's possible :P

ringo999 tried google cache/ web.archive.org ?

azeem, Other than it causing Wine to fail to build due to changes in compilers, it shouldn't happen really

hardly, read the license

It's probably a crime to run such a powerful computer with only a 500MB hard drive.

stew, cause i guess it is strange that 2.6.28 is 4.3mb compressed and 10mb uncompressed while 2.6.21-5 is 1.3 compressed and 2.9 uncompresse

Actually I doubt they would do it - it would cost too much for all the paid coders hehe

hardly, read the license

its best hosting to scandisk the ntfs and then defrag it in win first before resizing

*2.6.18

hi...i got a g3 here with a mouse with one button. how do i configure xorg.conf to use a key + mouse button as second mouse button?

how do i stop network manager from echoing every last hal event it hears to syslog?

how can it be that I do "dpkg --set-selections packagelist" and "dpkg --get-selections" still shows up an unchanged list afterwards?

you want "dpkg --set-selections packagelist"

yes typo
that is what I did

how do i xmodmap Super_L + Left Mouse button == Right Mouse button

perhaps try asking in #debianppc

thx

what was an example of a line from 'packagelist' that you think should have changed something?

Greetings
I have a wee problem with a network configuration

sth. like "pwm install"
does --set-selections care about dependencies?

then I don't understand what's going wrong

I've got ebox-platform 0.9.3 - and two NIC. Both NIC are set as static in ebox however for one of them - it lose its ip and reverts to a DHCP setting. The NIC is a Intel PRO PT-1000 and using e1000 driver.

At last! Session? Checked ))

in command line if I then do ebox network restart - it's back to normal.

ebox?

www.ebox-platform.com
it runs on Debian Sarge.

!onfo ebox
!info ebox
it may run on it, but it'S certainly not part of debian. maybe ask ebox devs what they're doing
all we do is edit /etc/network/interfaces

!info ebox

hey all
aclocal is a part of which package
apt-cache search aclocal returned nothing

I know it's prob not a question for this channel - but ebox channel is a bit dead

/msg dpkg search
/msg dpkg they don't know
we can tell you a debian solution only. not a ebox solution. and that one I already told you

I just tried to modify a single line of the "--get-selections" output and then reread the configuration with "--set-selections".. nothing happened

anybody knows problem of closing iceweasel/ff without any reason?

OK no worries

it's called a segfault probably
starz it via xterm

peter_, Get used to it, it happens often

Enverex, but, I can fix it?

peter_, No, Firefox is unstable

wols, I tried, but xterm close also, when iceweasel close
Enverex, iceweasel also?

that is can't believe. how did you start it exactly?
*that I

wait, you mean you started firefox from an xterm, and when firefox crashed, so did the xterm?

wols, well... it was gnome-terminal

still

I have launch iceweasel under xterm, let see if it works ;

I guess it wasnt fix since now ;/

i leave firefox/iceweasel running for weeks without it crashing or having to restart it
what is aurox?

i found mine to run much more reliably since i was a bit more careful about what plugins and extensions to add
i found mine to run much more reliably since i was a bit more careful about what plugins and extensions to add

stew - http://www.aurox.org/ - polish distro
there is new polish distro also, - www.uw-linux.org

Is there any way to get the xfce4 menu buttin into gdesklets osxbar?
and is there anyway to make gnomes desktop thingy to start instead of xfdesktop

uh, list of packages of uw-linux are in menu "Pakiety"

hii. i need some help with alsa - sound works perfectly after "alsaconf" - but after a restart i have to run alsaconf again... everytime

you asked that bfore and you got answered before

a quick fix would be to add it to /etc/rc.local

if you know the name of the sound driver that alsaconf loads, list it in /etc/modules

i got a lot of answers and none of them worked, thus i wantet to give it a sencond... no fith shot
its listed there already

is there also an oss driver being loaded?
which driver is it that you are using?

i am using snd-hda-intel
in /etc/modules there are no oss modules...

what i'd suggest is to reboot and save the output of 'lsmod' then run alsaconf, and run lsmod again, and compare the before and after

good idea
see you in a few minutes ;D - thx a lot for helping me

stew, u were right despite size it works - except that scanner device does not work anymore neither in old kernel neither in the new and also it says alsa-restore failed and some other block errors

well your scanner / alsa have nothing to do with your initrd

yeah but it is strange they stopped working
praticically the problem is /dev/sdb1 became /dev/sda1

Does anyone know how VLC's move to Qt is progressing? I'm getting sick of their nasty WxWidgets UI...

hi guys
is there a problem with the latest aptitude in unstable, or is it something wrong with my system?
the 'Loading cache' part takes about 20 seconds now, whereas before it was less than a second

you mean that it's super slow?
yeah.

byond that

it's /abysmal/

ok then, "time will fix it"

remember, breakage is one of the caveats of running sid :P

is vlc moving to qt? :-o

Yeah
But it was months since I last heard anything about it

damn who was helping me before?! i uploaded the results here: http://pastebin.ca/diff.php?id1=598905&id2=598907

I just saw that ubuntu has qvlc packages already..

Hi! Where can I find a good "route" manual?

the green stuff on top. snd_hda_intel and snd_pcm_oss

Hello

man route?

I was hoping for something more elaborate and descriptive

its the same like the old stuff, isnt it?!

damn, it dont wont to crash when its needed

I just asked, #videolan, and they said in the next version

So did I, before you joined
I asked here before I knew there was a #videolan

Well, I got my hand-rolled initrd kernel working and got rid of the glitches I had with the .deb one.

I Burned the debian ISO to a CD, and I see the file on there, but nothing happens when I reboot

"the" file, there should be many
You need to burn the ISO as an image hosting in your burning software

Image? Like a picture jpg?

No, there should be something along the lines of "Burn ISO Image"
Or maybe "Burn CD Image"

there is

OH; I see that. Let me try

oh, nevermind

Sorry, Windows is confusing, so I am goiing to go to linux instead

how to do a research of channel in irssi? /list regexp works?

http://pastebin.ca/598943 - what should I need to do with this ?

I discovered that "apt-get -u dselect-upgrade" works although "dpkg --get-selections" does't show the selected packages..
is there any (preferably terminal based) tool that permits viewing of the dependencies as a tree?

apt-rdepends
sorta tree like

does debian(or linux in general) run without problems on mac hardware?

ppc or x86?

I've seen it run with no problems...

depends on the model of mac hardware

I don't succeed to use the function mail() of php with apache2, my php.ini http://paste.debian.net/31773
why ?

i want to buy a macbook

a new intel one, right?

yes

i think there's a wiki entry describing the installation
i've had not much luck getting it installed and working on a mac mini (intel), but maybe i did wrong. my livecd worked fine on it though
i've had not much luck getting it installed and working on a mac mini (intel), but maybe i did wrong. my livecd worked fine on it though

can apt-rdepends show the dependency tree for _all_ installed packages?

Does anyone know how to chmod +x every single file in a directory, as well as files in subdirectories?

chmoad a+x * -R

just installed it on a macbook with a few hicups

chmod -R a+x *
w/e

but it wasnt too hard

the integrated GPU works with hardware acceleration?

don't know
this is what i used tho http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook
ah, you have probably gotten there : )

they let you back in eh ?

they? there's just one hero

jepp
s/jepp/yes

at the bottom of this thread i posted a right click script (biggest problem i ran into... but easily fixed) http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/84538-right-clicking-macbook.html

i found a new game

go figure

and it's got no makefile, want to package it?

why won't you ?

i can, but will you never package software for debian, not even one single package?

i have .. i just didn't give it to the project

which, what?

it was non-redistributable stuff

hey guys...what is a good way to clear out the /tmp directory?

reboot

without rebooting!!!

rm but you never know what file is needed by what process or user
why do you want to do that?

well
problem I have is that there is a perl script using apache-session

it'd be better to fix the software that doesn't clean up their mess in there?

and its filling up the /tmp directory
with files...and they are huge..

and you don't have the source for it?

but I don't know how to fix that

fix the script ?

on a system which is rebooted sometimes?

I didn't write the script...
Bushmills, this is a dedicated system
so I'm trying to not reboot

eliminates cleaning at boot time

hello all
Why do I get this error message when I try to use "apt-get update" "GPG error unknown error executing gpgv"

can we see the script?

How can I do a full hdd backup from one hdd to another hdd, so I can boot off the second hdd?

confidential

lindylex, i guess you need to have a GPG key

peters_ how do I do get them?
this is for http://us.debian.org stable

if they're identical you could dd it

tarzeau, I didn't program it
tarzeau, I inherited a system, so I have to do a search for it

otherwise simply use cp -ax and reinstall the boot loader afterwards

is there an alternate channel for horde other than #horde or is the channel usually dead?

also, are you any good at lindy hop, or are you an enthusiastic amateur? I ask merely out of curiosity

One of the best on east coast I mostly do Balboa now

How do I re-install the bootloader?

that's a bold statement. as for bal, I never could really get into it, though I try on occasion

Challenger Steve Bailey and Natalie Yuval many times

grub-install /dev/??? ?

I am not familiar with grub

or execute lilo..

and you?

sry

oh, I'm an amateur. there is not much of a lindy scene here in central Kansas, so within this town I'm quite good, but that just means I'm almost a beginner anywhere else

If the source hdd is smaller than the destination hdd, can I still do dd?

peterS got it

the bootloader set up has to be renewed if the hdds are not identical anyway, so forget about dd

I have been doing it for 10 years now

that's it .. they'll come around sooner or later

I wouldn't bother with that, just partition the new drive, use 'mkfs.ext3' or whatever, mount it, then 'cp -ax / /mnt/newdrive'
me, less than 3 years, and there is limited opportunity for quality instruction here, so I don't feel I progress very fast

its been a day without any activity on horde :P
well
guess thats life

yes, it's like that

Many have moved because of that.

heh, I could move to Denver, there's quite a scene there, but I don't really want to uproot myself either (:

tarzeau, apache-session is used in conjunction with Mason for a website
its integrated into apache

it's also the weekend

Salut à tous

what kind of question is it ?

the funny thing is...the session files are all different sizes

I choose not to move because of the same issue

regarding syncml

well .. i have no idea what that is .. so i doubt i'd be any help

i would just LOVE it if horde's syncml would magically start working

The scene here got weird, very religious and other strange things.

that is odd. I also can't afford to spend $50 for an hour even when decent instructors do come into town, so.
where is "here"? I'm in wichita ks.

isn't that next to timbuktu ?

we can almost see timbuktu from here
but, given how flat our state is, that doesn't necessarily mean it is close by

so what the deal with /etc/apt/sources.list? I addes http://..debian.org... and I can not run apt-get update without it giving me that error
how do I fix this?

you have the 'gnupg' package installed?

is gpgv installed ?

I will do the same for gpgv.

well, gpgv is part of gnupg

I just did something different. I did "apt-get upgrade update" on the same line this seem to be working better

'mkfs.ext3' or whatever, mount it, then 'cp -ax / /mnt/newdrive', how can I make newdrive bootable than?

hi
!nvidia

for a reminder.

never mind

on etch it's gpgv2 or something in gnupg ..not sure if it matters

oh, my bad

you will be punished accordingly!

how can i map keys to pointerkeys?

should I type this apt-get install gpgv2?

dpkg -l gpg* . is gpgv installed ?

i mean
map keys to mousebuttons

just 'apt-get install gpgv', really

command not found
it says gpgv is already the newest version

i'm pretty sure this error is in the BTS

right, if gpgv is already the newest version, then the problem is something else

hhhmm
in my list file?

quickest way to parce and replace something?

this is what I have in the list file

sed

Does anyone have a high res linuxdcpp icon or just a regular high res dc++ logo?
icon*

like if i wanted to change a line in my /boot/grub/menu.list from "default 0" to "default saved"
syntax in sed always screws me up

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib no-free

but if that is simple im down

that's "nonfree"

deb http://security.debian.org/debian stable main contrib no-free

uhm .. learn how to use it ?

nonfree!

what? get rid of the non free part?
what should it looklike

It's "nonfree" not "no-free"

sorry I have non-free
like that
"non-free"

im reading

that's better

but this is due on monday

;-)

it's really not hard
!sed tutorial

let me guess...read faster?

argh

cram!

!sed cheats

extra, extra, read all about it, sed cheats is see http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line52.txt

is there a better to add these reposiritries so I don't have these problems?

handy, thank you

the sed cheats

at boot it says wait 1-2-4-8-16 seconds /bin/cat/sdb/dev or something like this with kernel 2.6.21 but not with kernel 2.6.18 why ?

hi, what packages do i need to get the make command, and well everything to be able to compile?

build-essential

thx

at boot it says wait 1-2-4-8-16 seconds /bin/cat/sdb/dev or something like this with kernel 2.6.21 but not with kernel 2.6.18 why ?

hello .. i have a problem ... when i boot i get this error no matter what kernel or distro i am trying to boot : "Inconsistem filesystem structure"
does anyone know why or how do i solve this ?

black_ba55, huh?

does anyone know something about how to crosscompile for mips?

bpun .... what ?

is there any way to netlimit the downloads in firefox?
/iceweasel whatever

black_ba55, your filesystem is corrupt i guess.. have you tried to e2fsck it?

well ... it should do that automatically when it starts ...
and the problem is that i don't have any livecd at home now

!nvidia one-liner

well, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about nvidia_sarge. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: nvidia_post_etch. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: nvidia_legacy. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable.

black_ba55, well better go get one..
minus_, whatta that netlimit?

hello i run debian with gnome

Can I compile my own kernel without losing compatibility with the modules in Debian?

i have only backtrack livecd

bpun, ??

how can i switch to kde?
i run just apt-get install kde?

but i don't know if it has reiserfsck

black_ba55, see if your dos partition table matches the filesystem

LoGiCiAN, Yeah

bpun .. it does ... i checked it

black_ba55, then run a checkdisk against the filesystem.. i guess nothing more i can say.. other than rdev or see what it tryign to mount as root

"/" not user root)

http://paste.debian.net/31790 - i can't seem to install fuse, it throws an access error. i am logged in as root.

hmm
i think this is due to may forced reboot ... my keyboard stopped responding so i had to press the reset button ..

black_ba55, check the boot line, if necessary take note of the device it's trying to mount as root..

but it;s strange that even the windows partition gets the same error
i hope it's not the hdd

black_ba55, then update your grub.. newer kernels changed hda to sda i think..

bpun ... he mounts everything correctly .. this is the first thing i checked ...

That is, if I compile a 2.6.18 kernel, from the Debian sources + grsecurity and other patches, I don't lose support for, for example, the squashfs modules, do I?

i have as root /dev/sda3 .. and it mounts it correctly

cartesian1984, just use the config.gz from /proc? or try using a prior config file for kernel to rebuild same mods for newer kernel..

i'll try that livecd
brb

black_ba55, or use hdd generator.. possibly your disk is dying..

hdd what ?
what's that ?
you mean it doesn't get enough power ?

black_ba55, it's a free disk regenerator (independent of os)..

oh
where do you expect me to have all those tools ?
geez

black_ba55, if some sectors cannot be read/written back.. then that sector is probably causing havoc with any os..

ok ... i'll try with that livecd and if don't succed i'll try that program
brb

black_ba55, there's rescue cd's online available for free-- system rescue cd probably has it..

http://paste.debian.net/31792 - anyone an idea what I have to do to fix this problem?

when i install nvidia drivers (from the official site), the X starts when i finish instalation, i add the word nvidia in /etc/modules, but when i restart X doesnt start, the X log says module already built-in

I guess I will have ato write a script
to clear out the /tmp files

why do you use nvidia.com?

do the files use the same basename, like script1-tmpfile-2007.. ?

because in the repositorys there is no nvidia driver for the kernel i'm using.

so? there is a kernel-source

which kernel is that ?

inFw, no

you could setup a cron to rm it.

inFw,its based on a session ID

There's 3D support for the ATI X300, right? In the dev trunk of the open driver?

monteiro, check X config

I'm going to do it based on time
and by the user

but why the way i'm doing isnt working ?

we don't know. ask nvidia. it's their software

i add "nvidia" in xorg, yes, it works one time, when i restart stops working

we support debian. not nvidia. and with m-a, it would work, even for your kernel

ok
i'll install nvidia kernel , tks for the help

i cant find out ...grrr this line has default (two tabs) 0...i dont see how to tell it there are two tabs in there
so i cant tell sed exactly what im looking for

\\t\\t ?

i guess i could change the 0 to saved....hmm ill look at that

monteiro, probably something to do having X using a buffer when switich console/graphic .. not sure how to tackle this

the best choice, i think is to install debian (from the repository) drivers.

monteiro, or you can increase verbosity for system and X log..

i get an error with that
sed 's/default//t//t0/default saved/g' menu.lst

\\
not //

gives me an unknowoops
hehehe
sorry

um, i forgot to run the modules=ppp-udeb command before i started the installation, s it now too late to run it and install from an ftp server?

nomore error but it still does nothign

bpun, tks

ticks?
\\ not // dude
:P

i did that

that's what i said

me. pull. leg. you.

whats the default apache package?

k-os, dpkg-reconfigure?

how's it going?

apache2

from what point should i run that commabd now?
i have come to the point where i configure the package manager, my base system is installed, and i am planning to use ftp mirrors to build my system, but i need pppoe to access the net. if u understand my problem?

k-os, actually i didn't meant to say that.. my err..

you could always restart

i'm tired!

ok, what did you mean to say?

s'ok buddy, i am too

k-os, would it be difficult to restart? sorry i had no clue what was being asked..

bachelor party last night .. i'm way poorer .. and very tired

holy... i stayed up all night, bed at 6, then woke up at 10

yay!

well, i guess i could do a restart

k-os: wouldn't be very difficult at all, and you get to do it like you want.

so after i install apache2, where is the htdocs root folder on my filesystem? is every user goign to use this folder or is it user-specific

is it still possible to choose packages manually like it was with the 3.1 install? i havent installed Debian since then.

/var/www/
k-os: it is. aptitude. not parameters

default is in /var/www; this is configurable.

who owns that? i cant freely write files there
how would i move it to say a folder under my ~

if you do a2enmod userdir this will set it up so that each user has a web dir in $HOME/public_html

userdir module
\amethyst: fucking mind reader

so that, for example, /home/deceptic/public_html would be accessible as http://hostname/~deceptic/

yes i'd want that
and the command for that is 'a2enmod userdir' yes?

alrighty then

yes... the config snippits that that enables are in /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.{load,conf}

!nvidia one-liner

nvidia one-liner is, like, apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about nvidia_sarge. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: nvidia_post_etch. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: nvidia_legacy. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable.

IT FUCKING HAPPENED AGAIN! FUCK THIS SHITY DIST!!!!
I HATE DEBIAN

weird..only needs one slash

heh

easy on the caps

*shrug*

Yeahyeah

i just checked it and it works now .. though i didn't get any errors

!tell szymon_g -about msg the bot

what happened?

minus, your drive is probably corrupt-- run hdd generator..

Still.. The internetconnection just crashes and you cant get it back up

sorry simonrvn

I hate when I can't get it up

but i've got problem with graphic card

which kernel ?

lol

pisses my girlfriend off too

not with dhclient, ifup/down nothing

s'ok, you didn't do it 16 times

my wife is never pissed off about that
nvz:
hehehe

an anyone help me with a mesa error?
can*

just ask

she's never told me that.

not 16 but only 14 times ;p

Jonny, mesa isn't that for geniuses?

mensa

hehe

bpun, i have no idea, new to Debian lol

mensa it is

its when i load a game, the game loads but with low FPS, and i get a mesa error in terminal

hah. thats why they marry ya I guess, so they don't have to please ya anymore to get what they really want

what graphics card do you have?

intel something

what does "glxinfo | grep direct' say?

yep...i got her kids...shes happy now hehehe

unkwon command?
unkown*

I've thought about taking the mensa test.. but never got around to doing it.. I'm not getting any sharper these days..

glxinfo is an unkown command azeen
im using debian etch
not sure if it helps or anything ;p
this is my graphics card
2.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev

someone told me i should take that test... never wanted to, seems to me some bogus stuff anyway. people full of themselves about their 'intelligence'. whatever happened to wisdom?

I've always scored within the top two percent of state-wide tests so I can't help but wonder how I'd fare on the mensa test

!find glxinfo

(/usr/bin/glxinfo) in x11/mesa-utils ;; (/usr/share/mesademos/progs/xdemos/glxinfo.c) in graphics/mesademos ;; (/usr/share/doc/libgtkglext1-dev/examples/glxinfo.c.gz) in libdevel/libgtkglext1-dev.

/opinion

I agree for the most part.. but I'd actually like to be part of the organization.. to be able to share ideas with people worth talking to :P

install the package

package?

look what dpkg told

you elitist pig :P

haha.. plus you can get grants and shit.

yeah MoDaX...that makes no sense to me, like i said, im new to Debian

can anybody tell me what is gpl3 about in few words?

i'm sure they have a page about it .. or ask #gnu

install mesa-utils package

GPL, version 3

or .. wikipedia

abrotman, right ...

I could go actually learn something without having to pay for school.. just by proving I'm apt

ok i installed

or one of the numerous reports/news stories

yeh, better than joining the military and doing the same.
way too many people are forced to do that to get 'higher' education...

No
"

pfft.. heh.. the minute I had a loaded weapon and an oppertunity things would get really ugly with the kind of idiot we got in office right now and the ignorant shit he's doing with the military

it's disgraceful
same with the idiot up here, that gov't is so fucked up

werid its not writing it to the file though..only displaying it..

good people getting sent to do the corporate state's bidding, instead of actually helping people. it dishonours them

i need to ad an -e to the beginning right?
sorry that was for abrotman

yes

what does "/bin/lspci | grep VGA" say?

sed -e '....

thats not working as well
werid

ah, nevermind, you mentioned it already

permissions probably

yeah azeem i mentioned it ;p

do you have the libgl1-mesa-dri package installed?

not sure
should i try install it?
wait
no i dont

you should check whether it is installed

will tell you

will tell you 1.6-2 azeem's private gamp collection

yeh, install it

Yes

eh?

hehe

it now says yes

what did you change?

i installed libgl1-mesa-dri
o.0

ok, good
let's hope the game is more usable now

mhm
seems i get an error now

ya...thats not working..werid

when loading the game

sed -e 's/default\t\t0/default saved/' menu.lst

GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
ill upload output to pastebin
i get this error now
http://pastebin.se/22967

it outputs to the screen with the change but it does not actually write it to the file. permissions not be an issue. any ideas abrotman ?

man sed

ugh, Tibia

is that the game's name?

yah
anyway, looks like a problem with the game

what does it do when not being famous?

How should I go about fixing an issue I am having with ncurses not rendering correctly when used with screen and Eterm. It seems to be something about the screen termcap or something, any thoughts?

a collegue in university lost his life over it
literally
well, almost literally; he lost his uni education I guess

stew, and asg; http://pastebin.com/940087 and al the other persosn that know what my problem is

azeem, well i got it working again, a friend told me to install something, back to 4 FPS on the game, and the mesa error, but it works

which version of Debian?

etch

w64
oops.

im now going to sid though

hrm, ok
try testing first
it has the same mesa version anyway

damn pastebin.com

:/
crap i hate it when irssi stalls on me like that
that :/ was for you btw

heh

abrotman, ?

it's slow for most people

pastebin.ca was slow for me

!paste

http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.

http://paste.debian.net/31802
there you go then

hello

hm.. noticed that my network card is known to randomly die.. so i guess... hm..

Is there a way to import or copy old mail folders from a hard drive into a new hard driver (I am using icedove)?

just copy the ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/ folder over?

I tried... the folder wasn't spotted on the next start of icedove.

Is lame available in a repo somewhere for Etch?

709 no statics... Any ideas?

pease vote on cow army http://bigstarfestival.pl/main.php?id=6&sub=1

ok this is just stupid and not working for no reason

Must anything be concidered when installing debian on an usb flash drive?

space.
if mobo can book from usb.

how often the disk gets written to
having USB drivers compiled into the kernel (or at least in the initrd)

you may want to consider using a file system which handles wear balancing.

no journal, and no swap I've read

Hello
I need some help with audio issues

one of the flash suited file system supports journalling, actually

well, no swap and no ext3, is what I read actually
so the guide used ext2

I have Etch with KDE & ALSA and first I thought that there was no sound at all, but there is very faint sound when I test it

ext3 is not flash suited

What is?

So how can I increase the sound volume?

Do you have alsamixer?

eg. what would you recommend?

zfs!
*cough*

jffs2 is, for example

Type the command "alsamixer".

alsamixergui according to synaptic, yes

pease vote on cow army http://bigstarfestival.pl/main.php?id=6&sub=1

fuck off
i voted for whoever is beating you
stop spamming. seriously. knock it off

sorry

i can't believe that worked

ok, I opened alsamixer and master was already full volume, set others too, but no change
any other suggestions?

they weren't muted?

not that I see
and I can still hear the sound if I press my ear to the speaker

MM is musted OO is unmuted in alsamixer

bah, sorry

so im looking at all these directories that the apache2 package has propped up after isntallation... if i understand correctly /var/www/ is where all the static html stuff is, ~/public_html/ is where my personal html stuff is... and if i enable cgi, where should i put the cgi-bin ? /var/www/cgi-bin/ ?

I use the GUI

oh
alsamixer is the curses gui :P

well, I'm new here

it's ok
the speakers aren't just dying?

well abrotman i dont know how its supposed to be done, but i did this...

menu2.lst; mv menu2.lst menu.lst

no, they work fine when I boot knoppix

Using jffs2 makes sense, thanks

where do I go from here? :P

!paste

http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.

where would you guys put your cgi-bin/

do I need a fat16 to boot, or is it just commonly used?

for apache2

no, not commonly

on PDAs and machines with embedded linux it is
but on desktop computers not

so are there any other options where I can set the sound volume?

"After that, mount the USB memory stick (mount /dev/sda /mnt), which will now have a FAT filesystem on it"
And I've seen it in tutorials occasionally

What are you trying to play music in?

sorry, I meant specifically for usb drives

and that works so...there

Sound System to check the system

Do you know how to use PM?

privat messages?

Yes.

sure

to create jffs2 fs, mtd-tools should contain mkfs.jffs2

Was that to me?

Do you see the PM?

yes, indeed.

So I've been trying to set up an email server for a day now and nothing I've tried works
Does anyone here know of a simple step-by-step guide to setting up a basic email server?

what mail server?

I don't care

Does your ISP block port 25?

No
At least I don't think so

postfix is pretty straightforward, out of the box

Yeah.

Would that be all I need?

I got postfix working in 5 minutes.

I was told you need to do some stuff with mysql

For me it was.
I didn't need to.

Oh...

I use mutt to check my mail though.

Would that work with like thunderbird

Probably... I don't know how to set it up with thunderbird... but there might be a way.
Yeah, I think you can.

thunderbird doesn't care, doesn't actually see the mail server

Getting mtd-tools, thanks

how do i give my username access to write to /var/www/

I can't figure out how I'm supposed to set up postfix...
I'm finding a whole bunch of guides on google but none of them are making any sense to me

Do I need to paritition the usb drive?

Did you install it using apt-get or aptitude?

apt-get

Ok.

you would probably want to have a small boot partition

for a basic one domain setup no mysql needed

define small

which is not jffs2

So... sudo nano /etc/postfix/main.cf

so: one domain or more?

Also, thanks for helping me out.

One

16 mb or less should do

what ds you use for mail storage?

Meaning FAT16? 32? ext2?

ds?

*do

What do you mean what do I use for mail storage

ext2

yes. so your kernel can be accessed and booted

how do you want to store your mail?

I don't really care

ext2, thanks

Has something changed in PGP/GPG lately? Enigmail just fails saying it can't connect to "/long/url..." connect failed :/

postfix i a transport agent. it won't keep your mail

I see
See I know nothing about this
I've never done anything with email before

I can send mail with postfix with a smarthost with no problem.

how did you plan to read your mail?

Thunderbird.
I use mutt.

I didn't ask you

I just want basic email clients to be able to connect

I asked him before... he said thunderbird.

jbinder, any ideas on the soundsystem?

thunderbird, opera

that means pop3 or imap server

how do you want to use your mail server? what for?

Right
pop3 or imap

Do you have mplayer?

Bushmills, uh
Just basic support email
Nothing too intensive
I'm not going to use it as my main email

sending? being sent to you?

Both
If at all possible

you have a machine with a static ip address?

till cant figure out how to get it to look at the last instance of a pattern in the entire file

Should both be primary?

Bushmills, yes

im refering to sed

ok
doesn't really matter
yes

no, I don't think I have mplayer, nor do I think the playback software helps here

boot partition-1?

It could.

I've tried vlc and JuK

Try a different audio output.
ALSA?

I have alsa

So try a different one.

again, doesn't really matter much. you may want to make / the first, and boot the 2nd

right

just for cosmetic reasons

jffs the 1st then, gotcha
Any cosmetic reasons for first/end cylinders?
except not placing it in the middle

boot at begin is a defensive move

Bushmills, courier-imap + postfix work?

boot = 1 to 16, makes sense?
that's slightly more than 16 MB

It's getting quite late here, I think I'll have to continue some other time, thanks all for your help.

yes, though you might want ot look at dovecot-imapd as alternative

Bushmills, whatever's easiest

therefore

"whatever's easiest" .. for this reason

ext2/ext3 are both 0x83 right_