is there a way to load in php hosting modules at run time of my site?

Also I'd only set those options for the single upload file, not for a whole directory.

php.net/dl

Running Apache?

okay so i have these 2 lines in my htaccess file:
php_flag upload_max_filesize 209715200
php_flag max_input_time 3600
does that look right?

looks OK to me.

SlashLife, hang on ill check

Just to make sure, your filename IS ".htaccess", right?

yes it is

(note the preceeding dot)

lol

Okay

just notice what dl() says about multithreaded server environments.

lets try it now then

(Apache is one)

phpinfo() says ISAPI

at 30kbps how long will it take me to upload a 10mb file?
uat 30kbps how long will it take me to upload a 10mb file?/u
roughly
while i wait
lol

341.3333 seconds
about 5:40

Get calc.exe and think for yourself?
It isn't that hard, you know?

((2^20)*10)/((2^10)*30)

time * upload rate = upload volume

i know

he's trying to calculate the time, not the upload volume

Err... Are Americans *THAT* bad at maths?

which is still, volume/rate=time

echo "hi"; into a $str, and pass this to a function, is there any way i can process this and execute the echo() function call contained in the string?
obviously assuming that anything could be passed..

let's make cultural blanket statements. that doesn't make you an asshole at all.
php.net/eval

thanks

You could use eval() ... but you'd be crazy to.

though why you'd want to do that is up to you.

nah its ok i know what im doing

IMO it's an adjust question, as everything needed is to reorder the formula a bit.

theres no user input involved

This is at most 6th grade maths in Germany.

Then why do you need to execute arbitrary code?

SlashLife, dl() not suported

yes. that's easy enough, though when he asked how to compute x=y/z you gave him y=x*z

hello

Vystrix_Nexoth give over trolling would you. it gives me a headache.

don't judge all americans by your opinion of a few of them.

It's easier to remember multiplications. :
Instead of the usual R = U/I, I'm remembering U = R*I... which is a nice URI-multiplication. :/
No need to worry about the order once you know what is on each side of the =

yes, but ultimately you need a division in order to compute R when you know U and I.
U=R*I is of no use if you already know U but don't know R

Sure it is. I can simply reorder that formular in no time. But it's much easier to remember this way.

hello everybody, any way to get rid of eval in code please ?
like writting a script on the fs ...

why would you be using eval() ?

You could file_put_contents + include -gg-

simpleTest is, but it's not working in xdebug

But that's even worse. .)

hmm
i don't thinkt he file upload workd

"As of PHP 4, eval() returns NULL unless return is called in the evaluated code, in which case the value passed to return is returned."

http://pastebin.ca/568187
and it appears to work on one server, but not on another. is this some option in php that you need to change to make it work or something?
uand it appears to work on one server, but not on another. is this some option in php web hosting that you need to change to make it work or something?/u

8388608 in mb's is like 8mb right?

and indeed SlashLife, there are return eval($this-_extendClassCode($methods)); in the code

though the end result should be the same
right, 8 MB

Stop relying on register_globals.

8388608 bytes = 8 MB

This is not ##calculator :

damnit

register_globals shouldn't matter if he's explicitly checking $_POST
since $_POST gets populated whether or not register_globals is set

Change $cv-deleteEmpl($delete); to $cv-deleteEmpl($_POST['delete']);

though I think $_POST was only introduced in PHP 4.1.0... so if he's running an older version of PHP it won't work.

thank you, that's the option, just wanted to know whether this was some option in php hosting or not

so, what do you think now ?

oh, I missed that part. heh.

umm wtf

will alter his code to work without it

What do you want me to do now? Òo Guessing your eval()ed code?

Also.. if that code does what I think it does, you might want to reconsider it a bit to add some permissions validation. $_POST is just as easy to fake stuff into as $_GET.

don't be mean because you have no idea, thanks anyway

Yeah Slash, you meanie. Try to be more psychic in future.

he's being mean because he thinks you're asking too much of him. I'm inclined to agree.

My car isn't running. What's wrong?
Oh, btw.: I entered it through the driver sides door.

whether or not he should be *mean* is another question; I'm just trying to explain *why*.

if i want to delete one of these giant mp3 files i should use unlink, correct?

hey, you post a mistake, i tell you why, if you con't fix it it's not a big deal

Yep

i have yet to write a delete file script
do i need to do this check they recommend to see if it's open?

yes, unlink()

i'm bored, someone ask me a tough question

if (file_exists($file)) { unlink($file); } ... that sort of thing.

GameGod2, its called file locking

file locking?

GameGod2, you dont need to do it before deleting but you should do it when reading

ah okay

heh. turns out most of the problems themselves aren't usually all that tough; more often than not it's a lack of proper explanation on the part of the one seeking help.

how to debug eval'd code with xdebug please

But it's just some dirt on my screen. :/

LOL

is_null, hmm I cheat when i need to do that. I output the code to eval and use require_once in its place

I was under the impression that if you want to read/open/delete/frobnosticate a file, just do it and see if it worked, rather than using file_exists() first.
there are innumerable reasons why an operation might fail, beyond just whether the file exists. you might lack permissions to read it for example.

why does eval() not allow the use of local variables?

I always check for existance first.

or maybe another PHP instance (another page request) will delete the file between when you do file_exists() and when you try to delete it.

Force of habit I guess.

but what when the code waits for eval to return something (eval'd return) ?

Especially because we're living in a multithreaded world.

so if you want to read it, just go ahead and try to open it for reading, and check for error conditions. if it works, off you go, and if it doesn't, you can find out why by looking at the error.

you can't return from a function wiithin eval

[SCRIPT 1, TIME SLICE 1] if (file_exists('foo')) { [END OF SLICE]

Why do you want to use SimpleText and XDebug at the same time? Surely you sure use SimpleTest, and if the code fails any unit tests then use XDebug to debug it.

basically eval is a new scope

and trying to actually do it will invoke all the checks the OS can do, rather than merely the checks you can think of and/or bother to actually check for.

[SCRIPT 2, TIME SLICE 1] unlink('foo'); [END OF SLICE]

so having while (true) { eval('break;'); } won't work

[SCRIPT 1, TIME SLICE 2] $f = fopen('foo', 'r'); [END OF SLICE]

i am trying to debug unexpected relults from simpletest

wouldn't want to have to do file_exists(), check permissions of the file, check permissions of the directory it's in, ...
every single time

ah

so just do it. the OS will check all that for you and give you the result.
and it'll be an atomic operation, meaning it won't clobber itself in a multithreaded environment, as SlashLife is pointing out.
note also that flock() operates on already-opened files, not on filenames, for much the same reason.

right
learn something new every day..

if you want to update a file, you open it (don't check, just open, and see if it worked), then obtain an exclusive lock, update it, and release the lock. that makes the whole update operation, which takes more than one function call, atomic.

unless you're on a borked nfs implementation

echo eval( 'return strpos("aqjkx", "j");' );
2

well, yeah.

heh, this is what confuses me with eval

is_null, yeah you can return values from eval but its within its own scope
so function foo() { eval( 'return strpos("aqjkx", "j");' ); echo 'this shouldn't happen'; }
bah that will parse error
but you get the ideal
s/\'t/\\'t/

What do you call a programmer who obtains sexual gratification from the breaking of software licensing protection schemes?

Miles_Prower? :P

A Crack Whore. *bada..bump!*

DVD Jon?

echo foo( );

this
works with s/eval/return eval/

counter.php:
1 php echo 'STRIKE!';

u 4 t3h l33t

hi guys , got a question ; i have to make download dialod pop up when user clicks on like for resized image
i have some notions that it might do something with header() and streaming file through resizer.php file

header('Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="yay.jpg"');
the key being the 'Content-Disposition: attachment' part
it's non-standard but works on most browsers.

emm , and about resizing part , i cant put it right throug , what should i google for this kind of resizing ?

header("Content-type: application/force-download"); helps too.

ew.
resizing the image hosting is another matter altogether.

goal is to create hostna.me/download.php?galleryID=13&size=1280
or my idea is flawed in basics

dammit, I tried actually loading that. just then did I notice 'hostna.me' = 'hostname'
.

=D

That should work fine.

anyhow, yeah

but how should i perform that resizingpart ?
do i need two php's ? one resizes, and one streams throug to force download it ?

bah, I assumed you already had that part done and just wanted the browser to invoke a download dialog.

if you have HD2 installed, imagecreatetruecolor() and imagecopy().

GD*

GD2 even

lol

Or... if you were being dead fancy, you could do it on the client with Javascript.

no, you won't need separate php web hosting files.
ew. the server-side method doesn't depend on browser javascript support, on it being activated, ..
and won't make you download a 1280x1024 image if you're going to be displaying it at 320x240

Yeah, but JS is cool.
hehe

jss resizing is a bad bad idea .. think about IE

I'd rather not.

write a PHP interpreter in PHP.

Nah, that's no fun.

Write a bf to php translator ?

triage some bugs at bugs.php.net

ok .. one more question , how can i force page to go to 404 error page ?

header('HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found');

well, I'm not sure how to invoke the HTTP daemon's default 404 mechanism. but you can always do header('HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found'); and a custom 404 page.

k

then display your own error page

That's even less fun. :

write a JVM host in PHP then
or 6502 processor emulator

And that's total nonsense.

it's possible though

Already did a 6809 emulator.

heh, I was just thinking, an NES emulator

In C++ and Java, though.,

I know of a guy who just might be dumb enough to do that. .

(Nice and clean in C++, messy and sucking in Java)

php can't handle sound & graphics

he did implement a patching format in PHP, and the distribution of that program includes a full standalone PHP interpreter.

Sure it can.

It can handle graphics.

gd2

ok.. frame by frame

http://trashbin.slashlife.org/php/div/midi.phpx

(might as well have written it in UnrealScript, IMO)

Hi again. I want to put a combo box filled with the coutries of the world. I'm trying to avoid JavaScript, and that's all I find. Can anyine help, or suggests some sites?

you shouldn't need javascript for that. try something like this:

ebay.com
amazon.com
whateverinternationalshop.com

hideous...
midi from php!

$countries = array ('us'='United States', 'uk'='United Kingdom', 'el'='Greece', ...); foreach ($countries as $code=$name) { echo "option value=\"$code\"$name/option"; }

:

of course

wouldnt it be better to push it from file ?

Greece? O_O

there are many countrys, ya knoe

ellada = greek for Greece

So?

national stuff!

just as de for Germany (deutschland)

Is there no ready list I can borrow from (with proper referencing of course I wou;d like to avoid typing each country or missing any

how do I enable the display of errors on script?

hey anyone knows how can press the submit button in an html host form from code

yah, but .gr is greece, not .el

ebay.com amazon.com ...

error_reporting(E_ALL);

hello, is there a way to insert automatically an ip on this site ? http://www.browseip.com/

tnx Vystrix_Nexoth

thank you

You don't happen to be an amateur radio operator?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2

GreekFreak, There should be a table around the internet that you can copy into either a file or a database table. That's what I did when I needed a list of countries and codes.

how do i press the submit button in a form using php code
???

bah, that one uses .gr instead of .el... might have been thinking of el=ellinika (Greek for Greek)

hmm, apearantly my 'ejaculation' is too limited. I've received a mail from Mr. Richard H. Griffen, who - apperantly knows about my sexlife and needs - suggest me to try 'Wondercum'

greenberet, you can't. That would require JavaScript.

I must admit, the spam-senders do get funky when it comes to product names

thanks crrj

You're welcome

women get that kind of secure webmail web hosting too. heh.

thankx guys

Vystrix_Nexoth, there is no .el

is't insanely anoying, but this particular mail was hilarious

its *.gr

did you see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2
yeah, I just noticed that from the link I posted

'There is a solution now!!! "WonderCum"' I mean.. c'mon -_-

.el is used for greek language
yep
greece r0x

do they receive spam ?

btw i have a list of ips, is there a way to insert them automatically at http://www.browseip.com/ ?

Thanx it helps. I'll het it from there
By the way, I take it you're greek?

no, but of greek (among other things) descent

;-) Still makes you greek

I know its alphabet, and helped with a greek translation project once (just the coding side, not the translation side)

Mh. Knowing the alphabet isn't /that/ much of an archievement.

im having some problems with passing a string (mysql query) about in my page.. this is the error and code used: http://pastebin.ca/568216

better than nothing. :P

can anyone take a quick look at it please

i'm not sure my max file size thing has been done properly

what's the error message you get?

but i'll deal with it tommorrow

gooooood morning all,

it says it on the paste

nm, just saw that

0' into

but i can't see anything wrong with the syntax, so im thinking it is how php passes the string

strtotime

Does it come from MySQL?

yep

UNIX_TIMESTAMP()

ack. simple error.

:o

INSERT INTO foo (a, b, c VALUES ('...', '...'
forgot a )
after the foo(a,b,c

if you look at the print out above the error
echo $query;

yes, I see that

the query is fine.

you forgot to close the parentheses after the list of field names

:o
OMG

INSERT INTO foo (a, b, c VALUES ('one', 'two', 'three');

OMG OMG
lol

guys, i need help - can someone give me advantages of putting site HTML into a PHP variable and then doing an echo at the end, instead of embedding php code inside html code?

your a genius Vystrix_Nexoth
thanks alot!

heh. np.

it's cleaner

we all make such mistakes.

personally, i hate that approach, but i'm biased so i'm hoping i can find other ideas here
thanks, already got that on my list.. the only one in fact

Well... you could still access and modify it.
It'll uselessly take up memory otherwise, though.

as opposed to php in html where you cannot modify? :P
yeah, i know all the disadvantages

Plus you have to escape it, which decreases readability, etc...

i'm looking for advantages
lol

Better put your HTML into seperate files and include() them.

someone i work with is giving me a hard time about this

and what can I call to get the current timestamp?

include? would that work?
time()

Of course it would.

time() in PHP itself should work

i suggested a templating engine like smarty, etc.
he said no, that doesn't scale

and niraj if you include $files somebody can inject code into your site

include('foo') is -nearly- equivalent to ?CONTENTS_OF_FOO_HEREphp
PHP *is* a template engine.

yeah, thats what I figured, but I get error when doing:
echo time()-strototime($row['whenstart']);

it's more like eval(CONTENTS_OF_FOO_HERE).. lol

and what error is that?
no, it's not

It's not.

where I know that $row['whenstart'] is a date prior to current date

in an included file, you have to use php to start PHP code

I would not know, the server has error-loggin off

Ever tried to eval 'PHP' ?

so annoying

note the "more like"

It'll slap you.

I think the main advantage is the seperation of business logic from markup

but it's NOT "more like" ?CONTENTSphp
it's less like

somebody can inject code into your site niraj

i'm saying including html is more like eval

but if you wanna go there you might as well pick up a mvc framework like cakephp, code ignited, etc

meh

and I'm saying it is not more like eval

Did you ever eval() HTML code?

ok, i get it
anyway

sorry,forgot to nick you, I replied above

how is including html like eval??

advanteages to the approach!
advantages!

seperation!

whoa
you sound likehim
how is it separation?

him?

if you are mixing it altogether
the guy who thinks it is super sweet to put html in php and have only one php interperetter call

you say you're including the html ?

Do you want _how long_ it was ago or *if* if was longer ago than *some period of time*?

i mean, for separation, isn't templating better?

s/\*if\* if/*if* it/

yeah

otherwise html in php and php in html is like.. just as separate

As I already said: PHP *is* a template engine.

i mean a templating engine that separates html and php

'hehe' ) ); then in the html I could do {BAR} and it would replace with hehe,

PHP does exactly that. it separates HTML and PHP.

What would that be good for?

well just put your logic in one file, and the html in another
uwell just put your logic in one file, and the html in another /u

that way, my PHP is exactly, that - PHP - and I use the simple tag replacement engine to include html and assign it values

yeah, do what HarryR said

how many seconds the current time is from the row-value

= combined

If you follow this thought, you'd then have to write a template engine that seperates HTML code from Smarty (or whatever engine) code.

well just put your logic in one file, and the html in another

= separate

i know, thats what i WANT to do

Err...

but he wants it to be all in one file

like what I said above?

with the html being in the php

why do you need to store the data in variables? use echo, heredocs, ...

and html=$hello?/html?

who wants it?

php $html = 'html...'; $html .= '..' ... echo $html; ?
that is his approach

it's much much easier to do {FOO} than php echo $foo; ?

my display team is going to commit suicide if that is adopted

you should also not use =

but you have no loops

Yeah. And much harder to escape it if you have to use a literal {FOO} :
You even do.

actually, I love = :

but it's not as reliable, since it's optional in the PHP config.

SlashLife that's why with my PHP tag replacement I an use both {TAGS} and php $tags; ?

Smarty is one heavy beast.
And everything on top of PHP, which already is pretty slow.

if you intend to write portable code (code that won't just be run on just your own site), you shouldn't use =

s/an/can

true.. but I maintain all servers my stuff is deployed on
makes sense

in that case, that's fine.

I just used the minimal example for niraj.

hmm? *wasn't paying attention to that discussion*

well the point is to allow flexibility in development so people who never heard of php can make the pages and the php devs can do the php code, possibly even at the same time

and html=$hello?/html?"?

yes, that's why you seperate it, with a small template/tag-replacement engine

exactly

in my html

yes, but instead {VAR}

So you want to make people who don't know PHP to learn Smarty syntax?
That's ridiculous.

well not necessarily
they could put in dummy data
and i could replace it with tags
not a problem

I feel sorry for your enter key, but yes - you would assign 'foo' a value, then in the html just do {FOO} and it will replace it

approach?

!+enter
nm. it just PMs me. .

imagine a team based environment, where some people are php gods and others are html/js/css gods

Don't use the enter key as punctuation. Think in complete thoughts, then type.

Wow. I wish

hence the imagine

you seem to be going around in circles asking the same question every time we anwser it,

Why are you only using unnecessarily complex and stupid approaches? -_-

I am good at PHP, HTML, JS and CSS. But everytime I make a good layout, it isnt for one of my projects.

because we need parallel development to occur
for the display code

then use a simple tag replacement engine thign

and the server code

s/thign/thing

Its for a friend, or one of the many projects that I own 49% of.

So your options are to teach templaters full-scale PHP or full-scale Smarty syntax...
... instead of just telling them about echo, variables and loops in PHP.

like i said, the server peopel can do the smarty work

not at all,
how is {TAG} full blown smarty?

smarty is meant for designers though!

{TAG} alone isn't sufficient.

well as of now, the server team is more adept at smarty than the display team..
it should change in the future

'bar' ) ); echo $view-get_output(); ?

i'm familiar with templating syntax, thanks :P

then I have no idea what you are asking, your just going around in circles here
then I have no idea what you are asking, your just going around in circles here

a better approach than templating using smarty or similar?

i think it is not

thanx again guys
cheers

but someone else who has more influence myself does

I'd always go for a simple templating engine,

so how do i convince him
he claims templating doesnt scale

dance?

i personally think his technique is almost templating

Christ. What is wrong with php include "top.php"; ?CONTENTphp include "bottom.php"; ?
That is my templating engine

only a lot uglier and will make WYSIWYG editors shit their pants

wont?

WYSIWYG... rofl.

i am saying that apprach will, templating will not
s/apprach/approach

then just use templating like many of us have said for the past 20 mins instead of going around in circles asking the same question every time we anwser it,

the problem is how to convince that code nazi
not which approach to use

join #mind-control or something like that

lol

In my business we use XML/XSL. Backend and frontend people decide on a XML vocabulary and of we go! It's simple, easy and everybody just "gets" it.
So I guess that's another "templating" option

hmm
right, but we have hundreds of thousands of lines of code and some 200 pages done, so that would be too radical a change

If you already have that much work done, why are you even considering a change? Unless the current system is completely broken?

Yeah. And you can easily throw in an option to turn off the XSL filter and send raw XML if necessary.

Yes

because the client hired somebody and he is a "super genius" and has been brainwashing them

It makes it so damn easy to create output for different platforms.

I like that approach... I just don't know enough XSL. :

Well, if he really is a super-genius, then i guess you have to go with what he says..

Can you recommend any learning resources?

well, i don't think he is one.. he's a 50 or so year old harvard grad who has been working since before i wore diapers

Hehe. Our client hired a super genius as well...

XSL is easy. Tons of great documentation.

I couldn't find a single one.

Join the XSL maillinglist (mulberry-tech) and go from there. Lots of really nice people.

I've got a gread reference, but the inner workings are much more complex than in PHP.
Mailing list. : I hate mailing lists. :

If you can work your way around PHP, then believe me: XSL will be a breeze..

But I'm going to try it anyway, thanks.
I'm sure it will as soon as you're familiar with it...
... but becoming familar is a completely different beast.

There are some good beginner tutorials at w3schools. Check 'em out.

time() aways return GTM timestamp?
always-
GMT-
or server time?

well, i'm going to go write another big document explaining why the code nazi's ideas are going to kill any chances of meeting any deadlines

I believe so, yes

thanks, everyone

UTC, yes.

yeah

VysTrix, Slash thanks..

Still, the output of date() will be according to server time.

is there any quick way to format seconds into hours:minutes:seconds?

IC Slash so I need to pass time()? or should I use gmdate with time?
time()-

is it possible for apache to set a php session variable for php to pick up?

time() rimad
date() sorry

hi

php can pick anything up you need apache to output it somewhere
file() $_GET are both options.

how can I call a php page from within another page? require_once('pagename.php'); ?

that's one way

`Mace: and another?

require() include() include_once()

`Mace: I have a site that currently reads a session var set in an index.php in for arguments sake the "hu" directory. it then redirects to the /ext dir, which reads the session var and shows the right content. "sk" also redirects to /ext

i'd suggest using mod_rewrite to output the url in $_GET format
i don't really want to hear the rest tbh heh i'm dead busy.
if you can output it from apache PHP can pick whatever up
lookup php.net session_start(_the_id_)
etc..
apache will be the ahrder part
harder*

`Mace: think I'm not explaining myself properly

probably not explain it to someone else

`Mace: thanks

but I've found a solution

k
np Kartagis
must dash.

`Mace: mod_rewrite /hu to /ext with [PT] and read the REQUEST_URI in php and set the session accordingly
u`Mace: mod_rewrite /hu to /ext with [PT] and read the REQUEST_URI in php and set the session accordingly/u

Go Annoying bugs
me and a colleague have spent an hour tracking down a really hard issue, came down to a one line change 3 years ago
someone commented out a delete query

^^

(`Mace) simmerz: i'd suggest using mod_rewrite to output the url in $_GET format
..
glad you figured it yourself though :p
does vbulletin have spelling check facilities?

not natively, relies on browser extensions

ah nm

we have it in the works for the next release

i'm after a table of common mistakes and their correct spellings :p

its fairly complicated since we need to build a tree of any text including markup then extract all the text nodes

is there any wait to not disable, but to limit mail() function on server?

check the text nodes one by one and then throw it back in to the tree without screwing it

i want to stop spammers from sending 1000 mails one by one

juice`, not really. ilia has a patch for mail()

where can i find it

juice`: i think you can restrict that on ur mail server? sendmail or exim or whatever

how? php mail() is for every user the same

juice`, sorry the patch doesn't do restrictions but it adds HTTP_HOST to the headers so you can track down who did it
you'd need to do something in the mail server side to parse the HTTP_HOST header

i have the same patch already, it logs every usage of mail to a file with pathname of script called

juice`: I think it;s mostly a server related question than a PHP i'd assume

pathname on my server contains username

juice`, mail.add_x_header is what it was and you could extract that using a script in your mail daemon
is fairly easy with postfix to insert filters

Is it possible with curl to only get the first 2048 bytes of a document (URL)?

i use postfix
where can i find this ptch?

juice`: on the server side you could create an firewall rule to limit outgoing smtp connections

there isn't a patch its a feature of postfix
to insert filters
you'd need to create a script to insert a submission filter

syntax error, unexpected T_LOGICAL_OR in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/sinif/duzelt.php on line 14 mean?

and then check the header on outgoing email

well, I would say use man curl, since this is ##php.

well the curl site is down..

look at line 14 for |

i have 50 000 users, i can't limit the number of outgoing mails, i have to see which user is sending too much mail, and mail() from php is the same for every user
yes, but postfix doesnt know who is sending it, for postfix, every usage of php mail() is the same

You use mail()?

juice`: ah, i see

juice`, yeah bu you can extract the header added by ilia's patch from the mail, and do whatever you want with the script
extract username and lookup a hash table and drop those sending lots of mail

so this ilia's patch is included in postfix?
i don't know who is ilia, really

line 14 is $conn=mysql_connect('localhost','root','bantha'); or die(mysql_error());

-r will do the trick for you.
no semicolon after the mysql_connect.

oh durn, how could I leave that
thanks owenm

np

i really don't know where can i find ilia's patch. :/ if it's feature included in postfix why do you call it that?

via the php curl extension, not command line

juice`, ilia is a PHP Developer

I always do it, esp. if I add the 'or die...' after I wrote the mysql_connect

the patch is to added headers to the php mail() call

Aah, now were talkin!

and it is already included in php ?
ScottMac i meant.

juice`, http://ilia.ws/uploads/patches/mail_log.txt.gz once you add that and recompile you'll get X-PHP-Originating-Script in all mail() calls
not sure if its in yet

thats why i asked for a location of the patch
and i heard it's a feature so i was confused.. thanks

if you do a curl_setopt with a CURLOPT_RANGE, you can do it. see http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.curl-setopt.php

aha thanks

juice`, that will let you track down users spamming mail() which is a start

too bad they don't list what each of those constants does (although most are obvious)

is there any explanation on the net how to use it ?

juice`, you dont run a hosting company do you?

nah, just a free hosting project
people tend to abuse things for free

well all this patch does is add a header to outgoing mail
lets you track down things quicker

I'm analizing this example - http://pl.php.net/manual/pl/function.PDO-query.php

like for example, does that include the header as well (i presume so)

How to get assoc array instead of PDOStatement?

you'd need to write a program / script to integrate with postfix to read this value. Nothing exists to do it

I get only 1 record so I don't need any loop

which is better cakephp or prado framework ?

oh then i probably dont need this patch, because i already have my friends patch to write PATH and filename of every script that used mail()

well, then you probably want to call fetch() on the returned record (and set the fetch style to PDO::FETCH_ASSOC)
http://pl.php.net/manual/pl/function.PDOStatement-fetch.php

i thought this patch will be easy to add specific filters to postfix

try them,

without additional programs

But isn't it possible without getting PDOStatement?

juice`, nope you'd still need to do some coding

well, the biggest drawback of prado is the lack of organised documentation

we could say one is better, but better for what? we don't know what you mean by better, what features to you make it better - only you can make that choice

Look on the example - PDOStatement object isn't written.

so basicaly, this patch you gave me does the similar thing (in my case similar!) to my patch...
hmmm, but i thought someone mentioned that postfix just needs some filters to add
isnt it possible to use ilia's patch and someone configure filters in postfix ?
somehow i mean

ooh, I just noticed that, yes. the comment at tbe bottom says it isn't possible, but I'm not sure. I haven't used those functions much.

hello people, please look here http://tools.wikimedia.de/~mohamed/users.php .. can you tell me how to make each entry on a new line? every new entry starts with *

in $result = $GLOBALS['sql']-query($query) how would you check if the result is an mysql empty set?

juice`, that is what I was telling you. You can use the postfix submission filter to parse email.
juice`, but all a postfix filter does is execute a script. You'd still need to write said script.

Hello folks

or would i just look at sizeof $result-fetch_array(MYSQLI_ASSOC)

hi

I have mysql-server -client 4.1.22 installed on fbsd 5.4 via ports. Now, when I installed php 4.4.x will it automatically find the mysql 4.1.22 client libs rather than some older ones?
install+
od will I need to force it to use the newer libs
or+

Haris, PHP 4 from ports?
or from src

ports

any ideas?

no idea, behaviour is undefined when you use a freebsd php version. Ask in #freebsd

urm, put a between em all?

the add various patches and there version is slightly out of sync compared to the stock PHP version afaik

how do you determine if you have no results from an sql query

because php 4.4.4 with mysql client lib version 4.0.27 were giving me the unable to connect to mysql, client libs general error

owenm, i'm using while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) {
printf($row[0]);
}

hi if i want to prompt a download using a php script is it possible to call that download script via ajax?

printf($row[0] . "");

owenm, thanks

using mysql or something else? (pdo or the mysql extension?)

When I select use system mysql version, does that mean the version of mysql installed on the system rather than the libs that come with php?
source

we dont ship a version with the source
licensing issues

Are variables of objects (e.g. $db) always global or must I make them global inside a function?

they are just the same as any other var
and, globals are nasty - try to stay away from them :P

Why? DB object should be global in a function

o.o
But there is one with the windows version, right

correct
they get all binaries
and we use 5.0.37 for that

for what

global in a function? you mean global (can be used by all functions), or global inside the function (usable by everything in that function)?

Haris, Windows users get MySQL client 5.0.37 but there isn't any shipped in the source
it uses the system one available, but FreeBSD has its own configure scripts for ports and I don't know what that does

I want to use $db object inside a function so I have to type "global $db;", right?

/seen pollita

Well, maybe. Where did you create the db object? In a different function? If yes, then you would have to use globals, or pass it in by reference.

No, inside no function.

Got it

Hi, anyone seen Sara Golemon?

Outside a function or a class.
But I want to access object inside a function.

schultzconsult, its too early for her to be on
schultzconsult, she's UTC - 8 afaik

Using the system mysql didn't work. I got the old mysql libs compiled in with it :|

So, you created it when the script was first run, and then you do some function calls. You want $db to be available to every function. You can use globals or you can pass $db by reference to the function

I prefer "global $db"

To each his own

thanks.. I need to know, which security impacts runkit has on a shared hosting enviroment

schultzconsult, what sort of impact do you mean? runkit is a per process thing.

unless there are bugs, i wouldn't think any... it doesnt allow you to do anything nasty to the serer

you might be able to rename a function that is in disabled_functions but thats about all I can think of

so no overall security risks

disabled_functions is kinda lame anyway

My questions is because a customer of mine wants it in, but cant seem to figure, what it excactly does

extra tools that php doesnt have by default

schultzconsult, it's mainly a set of development tools for debugging in my case. What do they want it for?

I got that far ;-)

When I use $stmt-fetchAll() with only 1 record, will the array be 2d? ( $array[0][0] )?
2-leveled

heh

or only 1-leveled ( $array[0] )?

so what's the main question then
other than security

for lenting some PHP code...

lenting?

for my part, I'm only conserned about security and performance of our servers ;-)

performance it's not gonna be any different than any other extension
adds more functions to the global namespace
etc
i wouldn't think the functions are all that intensive.. rename_function etc would run rather quickly... you could profile them to make sure
but i wouldn't really worry about it

how can i take a image with mencoder ?
its possible ?

foo.png

a random frame of video
damn
wrong channel
sorry

okay, then I'll go satisfy my customer, with enabling it for him

syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or '}' in ..... - my server is on php 4 and my test server is php 5. dont know if thats it but i wouldnt have thought so. any ideas?

short tags?

Thanks for the help

are you using or php
illegalc0de, its different php.ini settings. You just need to find out which ones.

That'd just echo out the code on the server that doesn't allow short tags wouldn't it?

function ABC() { ... return $var; } $x = ABC(); - will $x be a copy of $var or a reference?
I want to fast solution with good performance.

ScottMac, were you asking me if i was using short tags?

A copy, but $var will have been garbage collected so there'll be only one version of the variable.

yeah

copy

Unless $var is a static.

not in my code

illegalc0de, can you put the lines of code on a pastebin?

is it short_open_tag?
if so then yes sort tags are on

illegalc0de, oh I know what it is
its your class file
have you declared something as public / private?

bbl

class....{ private String, String;....

well PHP 4 doesn't support private / public

ok thanks

it only supports var $foo
you'd need to re-write your code or just upgrade your server
upgrading your server is the most sensible thin
+g

right well im getting the servder upgraded to php 5 anyway at the moment so

And PHP 5 chucks a warning if it finds "var $foo;" in a class.

unfortunatley they are not going to move to mysql 5 yet
oniion, ScottMac, thanks for the help

np

hi, i need help with a regular expression to get the text between two html tags (say and )
can someone point me an easy tutorial?
the one in regular-expressions.info is quite long.

or is there a way to do conditionals to deliver mail to different destinations within a transport?
er
why cant i ever write in the right channel

Do you know what the tags are going to be? And roughly what the content will be?
It just that if you don't then what you're asking for is really, really hard.

yes. I know exactly the tags and I know the contet is multiline text.

where are the function docs - i need to figure out what this does: ctype_space($string)

the tags are actually comments
http://php.net/ctype_space

thanks

$a=ABC( CDE() ) instead of $a=CDE(); $a=ABC(); )??

In that case, something as simple as "/(.*?)/" should work
argh... wasp

this is crap'

tag.

PDO query returns a PDOStatement -- so you could probably do a $foo = $db-query()-fetchall()

Good I think it won't be slower.

obviously with proper spelling, parameters, etc

oh, wait. i was echoing the original text...

lol

Thanks, that expression works great

how draw rectangle with rounded corners?

test

anyone can make to me a test command of foo.avi to output.png
i want take a frame from foo.avi and put it on output.png

Using?

mencoder

Not used that.

why ? not support ? :x

Because I used ffmpeg instead

hmm
what you use for that then ? (the command)

For grabbing frames from video.

dman
wrong channel again
i want write on #player
sorry
*mplayer

Hmm I have an odd one..... I'm doing a: while ($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result)) {
But on a certain pass I'd like to insert the result from another query

like, on the nth row, do something else?

owenm, okay but what with closeCursor() and unset()? I have read that it's required for correct working of next queries.

owenm, No not really... .say I get a $result = mysql_query().... but I want to insert something else (from another query) as the third result
Hmm in this case I could perhaps replace the current $row.. with another one... but I don't want to lose that data
bHmm in this case I could perhaps replace the current $row.. with another one... but I don't want to lose that data/b

I don't know whether PDO is good solution. Too much code and combinations.

eh? oh, well, you would probably have to use some variables for that (can't chain it that much!)
so, let me see if I get this. you have a few rows in a mysql_query() and you want to fetch them... but you want one of the results to be from another query, that right?

owenm, I want to insert one from another query yes

why not just combine the querys?

not practical in this site

I think I'm missing something when calling this class. any help is appreciated. http://pastebin.com/929633

And I need to insert the resutl from one as the 4th result in the other
DJTrey-work, ehm... there's no function formfield?
line 37.... shouldn't that be createTextField?

DJTrey-work: what ver. PHP you using? IIRC, php 5 fusses at var $foo in classes (must be pub/priv)

Guys I need help with a little javascript.

owenm, I'm on php5 here and var hasn't fiven me any issues

actually it should be 'formtype'

do you know that it will always be at the 4th position? will the first query always give 3 rows back, or does it vary?

right?

owenm, it varies of course.... hehe
I'm tempted to just stick all the $row's into an array and insert one extra

http://phpfi.com/241941

anybody speak german? can you translate "geh doch mal mit deinem Mac rauf ..."

I think it isn't so good solution.

might be the easiest

http://xyz.com?product_id=443

SlashLife, yes debug_print_backtrace(); is perfect thanks !!! :-D

Anybody can plz help me with this...

warreng_, strange sentence... something like 'go out with your mac already'
but my german isn't very good

babelfish didn't do well with it either

samkhan245, radio buttons are part of a form, its the form submit that gets a new page

What does the term Use System Mysql

I don't think it will work at all. Closecursor returns bool, so you will probably get a boolean result there.

mena
mean

got it. it has to be $create-create_form(text, 50);

What does the term 'Use System Mysql' mean when compiling php

Right.

debug_backtrace is your friend

I can't even see closeCursor in XDebug (WinCacheGrind).

Chaining the calls is nice, but you did it a bit too much

Okay, i will use $stmt or $res var

closeCursor is a method, so it is closeCursor().

but I won't create a function or a class for doing it automatically I think

you will need to store the PDOStatement and then call the function to get the array and close the cursor on it.

Contratulations, then.

$PDS = $db-query(); $arrayval = $PDS-fetch(); $PDS-closeCursor();

I think PDO will have functions to getting something automaticaly - let someone tell PHP developers about it.

i'm kind of rusty on php, so i'm confused about null. when i say $x = null; isset($x) returns false
the documentation says exactly the opposite

SlashLife, yes I've tested few hours after but that's work :p

"isset() will return FALSE if testing a variable that has been set to NULL."
http://us.php.net/isset

can someone make this not echo the last 4 chars of the string http://pastebin.ca/568421

zomg ... how did i read that three times and still get the sense flipped in my head?
sorry bout that

hehe no problem
you should see me with De Morgan's laws :/

oh i'm a beast with DeMorgan
i prefer Captain Morgan's laws tho

aye

aaa801, http://pastebin.ca/568421

i'm probably the only person in my department who uses the verb "DeMorganize" on a regular basis

so...

http://us.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php

then again i maintain spamassassin rules, so..

look at ex 11.5

is there an easy way to get php to connect php to mssql?

http://us2.php.net/mssql

sproingie, does Captain Morgan's law include coke?

thanks

cause I'm quite good at that too
but I prefer Jack Daniel's Law

that's one of the laws: Acceptable Additions

do you happen to know if that works from a unix box with php connecting to a windows server with mssql?

though there's an amendment that Coke and Parrot Bay are not acceptable to mix

kaylee, man... is php.net down? http://www.php.net/mssql

"Everyday we'll make it, we'll make it the best we can"
*

Is it guaranteed that the __destruct method will be called before the script ends?

yes

kaylee, no. It's not down.

isn't there a saying about "ask a stupid question"?

kaylee, indeed. So what's your excuse?

...
bash material, anyone? ^^

__destruct should be called the moment an object goes out of scope, right?

I read when all references are destroyed

same thing in OOP

hello everybody, i don't understand how php unit-test frameworks are better than writing a script to test unitand throw error ? any idea please ?

should I take out the create_form() function and just make a function for each event (ie. createTextField(), createRadioButton(), createDropdown()) http://pastebin.com/929644. Or how should I go about approaching this?

tho "destroyed" could be "whenever the gc gets to it". but i believe php refcounts exclusively

wouldn't $GLOBALS['a'] = $DestructObj; not destroy it?
Is it safe to call mysql_close from the destruct method of a Database object?

in the docs there it tells you how to run it on UNIX systems.

tho i imagine quercus uses the java gc, not refcounting
right, it would still be in scope. the global scope at that point

i have implemented simpletest on two units but all it made me do is use their includes and use assretFunctions

what does it mean when php is compiled with --with-mysql=/usr/local

sorry if this is a newbie question i am new to unit testing

it means it will look for mysql libs in /usr/local/lib

Does it mean, it uses mysql libs already installed on the server?
I have mysql-client 4.1.22 installed on fbsd 5.4 here

what don't you get, is_null?

but its not picking up this! version of client libs to compile with

you may be able to change it in php.ini ... not sure

How can I encapsulate utility functions without needed to create a $utility object? or should I leave utility functions in the global scope?

i don't understand the point of using a framework for unit testing instead of simple scripts to test a unit an report errors/unexpected

well, it's same reason as to why you'd use an application framework rather than writing from scratch

group the related ones together as static functions in their own class. the real "junk drawer" stuff that you can't classify, see if they're used only in one place, and if they are, move them to global functions in that file

you can use functions an properties statically

DJTrey-work, ehm... sorry... I'm at work as well, so I'm not quick

i have implemented simpletest on two units but all it made me do is use their includes and use assretFunctions

I seem to be able to call functions without the static keyword using just ClassName::function(); Is this an ok way to accomplish static functions in php?

what else do you want to do?

if you have functions you can't classify that are used all over, then you probably have problems in your design to work out. which isn't too uncommon, so don't feel bad if that's the case

assertions are really what unit testing is about

heh. np

DJTrey-work, personally I like giving every function in a class it's own name and triggering them manually... but maybe that's just me

that's how you call static functions, yes

DJTrey-work, I mean I wouldn't have a class with create_form with a function in it called create_form

without the static keyword? well, it's kind of a misfeature of php that it lets you do that

using a formtype works fine though...

i'd stay away from that

i expected you would answen that for me
anwer*

ok. well let me try to rewrite this a bit and see what I can do.

the usage of using a framework assertion that i understand is the same thing that using simple ifs
s/ifs/conditions

header refresh only destroys $_post/get not $_SESSION ?

Is it possible to block a script from including from an sub directory?

yes. but frameworks like simpletest provide a whole bunch of features to automate those conditions, e.g. assertions, mock objects
if you want to unit test theres nothing to say you _must_ use simpletest, or phpunit, or anything at all. It just makes things alot quicker and easier.

i understand, about simpletest Mock ::: how to use it on a magical class ? using only magical functions

Learn about cookies and headers and HTTP requests. :

i think it'll cope, but i'm not 100% sure.

nvm, it must be somewhere in the man

Hey guys
I have no PHP experience at all
my question is about performance
Does a page 100kb in size is expectable size for a web-page?

100kb of pure PHP or combination PHP / HTML?

the HTML returned to the user
the rendered page

100k of html is pretty big

how can i minimize that?

that seems large

#web

EBSMobile, ask #css

us a smaller font ?

thanks

^^

the thing is
my developers told me that running the php application on apache is very slow and iis is much faster does it make any sense ?

The thing is that question is not connected to ##php.
Shoot them dead.

:-)

fire those idiots

EBSMobile, they're lying because they are MS fan boys

I'm not joking. Do it right now.

I think we need to do some performance testing
real one
how can I address that ?

I have to do PHP/IIS. Trust me -- you can make it slow and reliable, or fast -- as long as you don't mind it crashing _hard_ consistently. I mean, _hard_.

Is there a benchmarking / performance tool?

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html 56% using Apache

EBSMobile, speed is less of the issue. the primary issue is the compatibility problems you're likely to run into when trying to run PHP with IIS. PHP was designed for Apache (afaik) and as such PHP with Apache is more configurable.

I'm sure you are all correct , but I need to prove that

dont bother. it has been done. if your server is having problems, fix the problems. if there is no problem, don't worry about it

hi, is there an existing image code verify class or script?

EBSMobile, setting up and maintaining PHP on IIS as your primary web server is just, kinda dumb.

something existing

That's overall websites. Not PHP specific

i agree, apache is better

It doesn't mention nginx in it yet

Have you ever heard about a system called smarty?
I think it is build upon this system

ew.

EBSMobile, yes and I'll tell you why it sucks over in #phpc
EBSMobile, and i'll tell you what's better instead too

Smarty is *TEMPLATING* system. Completely useless.

really?
:-)

yes, really

EBSMobile, or #php.thinktank, but it's off topic for here. and Smarty sucks.

and if you still want to compare Apache and IIS, google a bit. there are 100's of case study things out there

owns Smarty.

no I don't want to compare , I just want to know how can tdo some benchmarking tests

EBSMobile, sounds like a comparison to me

so I can come to my boss and tell him look :

helo

the developers have no idea what they are talking about, but they are wrong

EBSMobile, how is a benchmark not a comparison?

Hi all

want a benchmark? Put PHP/IIS with ISAPI, try to do serious work. case closed.

"http://vpn.server.com/heartbeat.php?clientid=123" == how can i get the clientid in my script???

I meant performance testing

ive delt with smarty quite a bit and have yet to like it enought to deploy it on a new app

Dodong, $_GET['clientid']

php.net/faq.html

they told me that the website is just slow because of the 100kb
and that is got nothing to do with iis

to do the tests yourself, you will need to setup IIS (and set it up right) and then hammer both till they break (including your current Apache) or setup a 3rd box with just Apache, so that you don't hammer your production server. too much work.

if you concerned about site load time grab a ff extension lets you see what part of your site taking more time

EBSMobile, is there really 100k worth of HTML in that file? or 100k worth of data which is formatted with HTML?

data formated with html
formatted that is

100kb is still a large site. Keep in mind, that people still exist that use dial-up modems.

"Great website:www.domain.com!". What would be pattern for it?

EBSMobile, is this a dynamic page? i.e. does it come from a database?

can we see one of these 100k pages?

Hey. I am having trouble with my PHP/MySQL IIS Server... more the trouble is setting it up. I hoenstly dont know the name of my MySQL DB and I cant get the localhost/index.php to show up. Says page cant be displayed. This the right channel?

yeah I know , but they told me that is Smarty , we can do nothing about it
yes
it's all on MySQL

Why don't you simply strip it for all domains that *have* it?

on Windows of course

It's a bit easier and it looks much nicer.

Why would you want to use regex?

wolf, i feel regex is a good tool for the job
Slash - there is a technical reason for it, but it's a longer story

EBSMobile, Smarty could easily be the problem

why is that?

Get a regex that matches the domains for you and then put a negative loog-ahead in front of it.

EBSMobile, i'll tell you in #phpc

*look-ahead

You feel wrong. Use strpos()

negative look-ahead.... gotta read about tihs one

to see if basic PHP works

Thanks you all guys, you were a great help

darn
cleared the backlog _again_ -_-
regular-expressions.info

Ok just a second

slash, thanks!

Did you mean: phpinfo()

proably

What's wrong with simple strpos()?

gah. Sugi, I'm an idiot, darn it.

Index works fine. Let me try the printinfo

no!

no?

phpinfo(); I'm dumb.

lol ok sec
It prompts me to save the file.

not knowing something !== being dumb

So my PHP isnt installed right?

hey, anyone have exp with domxml?

if i do $str[strlen($str)-1] = ''; it is replaced by a space how can i just delete it

screwing up the simple stuff that you know is, though

is it possible to validate xml using php4's domxml against an xml schema file?

That's good.

probably. http://us2.php.net/manual/en/install.windows.php

Alright thankyou

good luck

i dont want there to be a space

How can I ask if a MySQL table already exist and then return true if it is and false if it isn't?

Should I be using the latest php install?
Doesnt PHP 4 and PHP 5 make a difference...?

som1 answer if i do $str[strlen($str)-1] = ''; it is replaced by a space how can i just delete it

deviance, run the query SHOW TABLES

well, if you use the 4.0 series, follow the instructions for 5.1.0 and earlier. If you use 5, do it that way.

aaa801, use substr() to delete it.

example please

aaa801, substr($string, 0, -1) will strip the last char

kk

What, run show tables;, then if it returns nothing, it doesn't exist?

deviance, technically mysql_query("SHOW TABLES LIKE '" . mysql_real_escape_string($table_name) . "'");

Well, his version works, too

how do i tell if i am using IIS CGI or the other IIS?

Ehm actually aaa801 isn't there a function that just removes trailing spaces.... or isn't that what you're trying to do?

deviance, yeah no rows means the table doesn't exist

hello everybody, what to do when i need n empty loop please ? for instance while ( ($o_query = $o_iterator-hasNextQuery()) && ($o_query-name!=$queryNameToGet)) {}

why do you need empty loop?

Wolfpaws, resetting a char won't delete it afaik.

IT should set it to ''

because i just need to wait for this loop to end then i'll have the right $o_query

Wolfpaws, strlen() will still remain the same, it will replace it with a null char iirc

ekneuss, wasn't he just looking for the 'trim' function?

macouno, from what I understood, he was looking for a way to remove the last char of a string, which is not equivalent to trim().

ekneuss, hmmm yeah you might be right.. in that case.. I concur :P

Ok. so that should be read "bad idea" :o

Wolfpaws, indeed

because i just need to wait for this loop to end then i'll have the right $o_query

substr($string, 0, -1)
easy way to strip the last character

Are you talking about threading?

Hi folks. I just upgraded from php4 to php5, and am having a problem with sessions. On one page, I have: session_start(); $_SESSION["foo"] = "bar"; header("Location: http://domain.com/page2.php"); . In page 2, I have session_start(); echo $_SESSION["foo"]; and it's empty

Hi, just had a look at domxml but read that it isn't thread safe - so is there a xml lib that is usable in multithreaded environments?

no, just iterating until the $o_query has name set to $queryNameToGet

I print_r($_SESSION) and it's totally empty

session_start()

have it on both pages

Do sessions in general work, i.e a simple test like http://pastebin.ca/568491 ?

Do you maybe do some fancy redirection?

http://pastebin.ca/568494 try to start session with this
*

hmm, guess not. the counter does not grow

My bad. I have failed to read everything. again. You need to save session first before redirection
+g

http://pastebin.ca/568499 does that look ok to you?

Check your php.ini file, for things like session.save_path .. make sure it's correct.

is there any other check I need to run on strings besides mysql_real_escape_string before using the string in a query?

it is set to /var/lib/php/session which exists and is writable..i also tried changing it to /tmp

want to try a database abstraction layer ?

Whats that is_null/

You want to read php.net/session_write_close

in php_info() it says session support is enabled

And you're checking the php.ini file that's mentioned at the top of the phpinfo() page?

yep, /usr/local/php5-fcgi/lib/php.ini

deviance, use mysql_num_rows not isset

hiker13526, not really

That counts the number of rows then?

Did you've read what I've said?

hiker13526, it depends on what you consider valid data. if you need emails to be valid emails you might want to run a regex match on them to be sure they actually look like emails. but as far as being safe against SQL injection, mysql_real_escape_string() should do it