guys, how do I load a properties file from a servlet web hosting so that it is non-server specific. ie, the properties file is always in context location /webapp/resources/preferences.properties ?

Chest, ServletContext.getResource

pfn could you begin again please?

thanks.

discoverable = UDDI?

hallo

andresgr, talking on a smaller scale, not uddi

pfn, i think the point for using JMS is its realiblity

but I guess it doesn't really matter, if you're writing a web service client, you'll have picked up the wsdl prior anyway
andresgr, you're right

um, hi guys - can someone point me to a tutorial on how to edit *.jar files from within Java? The java.util.jar.JarFile javadoc is not very helpful. I have written a game in java servlet hosting and a Level Editor for that game, too. It can already edit the level files but I want it to read the files from the *.jar of the game and save them back into the *.jar file.

pfn, i tried calling invalidate, but it didn't help. the buttons are still sometimes displayed and sometimes not (without changing the code)

you tried calling invalidate where
always be specific

pfn, for realibility one could use also IBM's HTTPR... but that is on dead tech pool now

httpr sounded stupid...

~httpr

andresgr, I have no idea what httpr is.

yo

~jar

Neumaennl, jar is Java ARchive. See http://java.sun.com/tutorial/jar and http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/jar/jar.html for more information. Also see fatjar

is that http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/second_edition/html/jTOC.doc.html up2date?

IBM people say it was withdrawn in favor of the
OASIS evolving WS-ReliableMessaging standards.

pfn, sorry - here's my code: http://paste.debian.net/30508 I'm fairly new to java, so prepare to be shocked

~tell vikingr about edt

vikingr, Event Dispatch Thread, the thread that drives the swing gui. See http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/misc/threads.html for a tutorial on Swing and threads, and note http://java.sun.com/developer/JDCTechTips/2005/tt0727.html#1

remove useless/empty comments, add good comments
why do you extend Thread? that is in most cases very wrong...

why are you even extending anything at all
there's no reason to be extending any class in this program
and, uh, don't use busy-waits
also, no hungarian notation
java is strongly typed, using hungarian notation doesn't really help here

~fatjar

Neumaennl, fatjar is a jar file compiled from several other jars, see http://fjep.sourceforge.net/

is the proper way to access servlet resources via a JSF java host managed bean with FacesContext.getCurrentInstance().getExternalContext().getResourceAsStream() ?

if you want it as a stream, sure, why not

~beep

andresgr, I have no idea what beep is.

hm, the System class is integrated into the language specification ?
because i need no import for it...

litb, java.lang is imported per the JLS
not just System

the _ENTIRE_ java.lang package is implicitly imported.

you type slow

~tell litb about imports

litb, I guess the factoid '* imports' might be appropriate:
litb, * imports is http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Java_Programming/StarImports
litb, * imports is a href="http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Java_Programming/StarImports"http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Java_Programming/StarImports/a

thats not the right one, ignore it

~tell litb about import

litb, import is http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/interpack/usepkgs.html

~imports is seeimport

Okay, r0bby_.

fixed.

jottinger, back

your mbean naming conventions are exactly backwards

go me!
meaning CacheMBean and Cache ?

yeah
the interface is named *MBean
in yours, the IMPLEMENTATION is MBean

heh. i'll rename 'em

I'll have a fixed, better version for you soon

jottinger, heh, is eidolon paying you? you seem to help a lot :p

quite a bit, actually
but I get a benefit out of doing stuff in any event

http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=2391 to try and write out my properties file, but I'm getting "java.net.UnknownServiceException: protocol doesn't support output" from conn.getOutputStream()
this is from within a Face servlet.
*Faces

in this case, he wrote a db4o mbean, which is also something *I* want, so I'm helping improve it

jottinger, the important point is that he's paying you

of course

Chest, getResource is read only

but I'd probably help even without...
after all, that's WHY they pay me, because I helped first

indeed
but still, the important point is that you're getting paid ;-)
e.g. I got an cisco 7960 3 years ago for hanging out on #asterisk
heh
s/an/a

I have my servers from that

the javadocs don't say it's read only.

Chest, that would be spelled out in the JSF jsr, not apidoc

how can I get an output stream for writing then? I'm not seeing anything in ExternalContext.

Chest, there should be something like a getRealPath() java api hosting which returns a File
use that

windows gives me headache

eh.

grrr
I swear, every time I use eclipse, I always fuck up the webapp deployment for a while

I never got goodies for hanging out anywhere

r0bby_, you need to be less of an asshole :p
and you need to hang out where people have access to things to give away
e.g. #asterisk means voip phones ;-)

heh, who's spamming pr3d4t0r's pastebin with porno links?
is that a new phenomena?

your mom is, tell her to stop
just kidding

really?
ok, i was just about to call her and tell her to knock it off

working on being less of an ass, and more helpful
pissing off the regulars is a bad thing to do on IRC

anyway, I should start looking for another job, looking to quit my day job, heh
so, if irc would only get me some decent job offers ;-)

i know a few pimps looking for new personel...

[krustofski]: I'm not hiring

so anyone here got any preferred webapp frameworks i should consider for this project?

wicket

jsf

cakephp

yeah. cakephp is kinda the php web hosting version of RoR
with all its attendant warts

Grails

it's not bad. but it's still a model 1 framework.

lol php :p

~php

cheeser, php is the solution of choice for relaying php mysql web hosting errors to web users

i'll give wicket a look.

I should look at jsf at least once
instead of ignoring it completely

hehe

but JSF looks like it's wired-by-xml up the wazoo

pfft

jsf+seam

I kind of like wicket so far

there's a few ways to quick start it, there's the quickstart project in wicket-stuff i believe, there's databinder.net, and qwicket
it is

starting up in wicket is actually pretty easy
just create a WebApplication class, and a WebPage and you're done with the basics

yeah.

how does wicket work ? (never used a technology that isn't basic jsps/servlets before). do i use it with glassfish?

you can, yes.

you use wicket with any servlet container

it's just a web app

okay

I know you don't support applets where can I go to answer a question on an applet?

prove it's java and we'll help you

The applet?

ask a specific java question
not an applet question

most java channels will refuse to help with applets for the reasons listed in the FAQ page.
s/in/on/

i.e. do not ask anything about the java plugin or the associated browser

/applet. That is the name of my interface class.

The ony difference I can see is that my applet is in a jar. I think that may be the issue.

i thought whiskey was in the jar

I always like my jars filled with White Lightning.

agreed

is there any reason you can think of that a java echo server would not properly handle data from a boost::asio tcp client?

So is that an applet question?

is it possible to use mysql in wicket?

...

I'm putting a list of random integers into an ArrayList. What's the easiest way to sort them? I thought using a TreeMap instead would be an good idea, but I don't have a key value pair.

well, mysql requires english, and french can't be used with wicket

if i have asio client/server it works fine, but if its a java server, it acts like its not getting any data sent to it despite being connected. but if i telnet to the java server and enter data by hand, the java server echos it back out

if the list always has the same length, then just use an int array, and Arrays.sort()
otherwise, Collections.sort()

are you using any sort of buffered writer/stream in your java client?

oic!

lgbr, also there's TreeSet if the numbers are all unique

not an aolbonic

yes it was.

Organization of the Islamic Conference FYI

wanna go for a +b ?

awesome, thanks

maybe not
anyway, any other frameworks i can check out?

what is that shorthand syntax called where instead of saying "if x=true then y=1 else y=0" you say "y:=1?0" or whatever
i dont know the syntax

rife perhaps

x ? y : z

x?y=1:y=0;

is x true ? then y : else z

ah ok
thx
it's a little diff in c and C++ isn't it
or am i going crazy

I think you're crazy

k cool
i guess my nick suits me then

aiee!
i just had 2 jboss servers running at the same time.
i think i heard my laptop whimper.

it's called the ternary or tertiary operator

and here I thought your nick had something to do with psychic genetalia

"tertiary" wtf?

o.O

any word on Tapestry?

I tend to call it an inline conditional, but I know that's not in common usage

yea tertiary sounds familiar

~regex

Neumaennl, regex is the regular expressions tutorial at http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/extra/regex/index.html

~ternary operator

[krustofski], ternary operator is http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/nutsandbolts/op2.html

ive never seen "tertiary"

darn jboss to heck

primary, secondary, and tertiary!

RIFE! :-D

it's heavy enough that it should sink down to hell under its own weight eventually

heck
we're talking about heck here
the warm-ish place under the dominion of phil, the prince of insufficient light

This is heckishly hot

I have a profanity filter... it turns non-profane words into their correct profane substitute

profanifier

then how did you know we were talking about heck in the first place, huh?
Fluff you and the horse you rode in on!

I.. uhh.. toggled it... yeah...

maybe he's heard of fill
phil
wew, phonetics took over there

he's probably USED to fill... erm.... phil

mmm dilbert
I'm talking about the comic strip as a whole...not the character

no cbrock

hey waz

wazzzaaaapp?!?!?!?

somebody drank the wrong kool-aid

okay, rife looks good. anyone got a favourite framework-newbie-friendly tutorial?

Look at examples, best tutorial...EVER

wicket!
rails!

crap

rife is Bevin's project
I think

http://rifers.org/theater

awesome

just sit back and look at the demo videos

Bevin made them while naked
so OOOOooOoOoOooooOOoOOOO

I'd make a snide remark but i'd get kicked

tread lightly.

so my dev manager was trashing rife today in front of jboyens. Just came to my office and said "I had no idea JR had worked on Rife!"

lol

hahahaa

tee hee hee

hmm, who has an osx box that they can run a simple test program for me?

http://spluch.blogspot.com/2007/06/kid-with-no-eyes.html

is this going to make me nauseous?

no
maybe I dunno

Does any one have Sun Studio?

yes

Can I paste some code here?

erm
no

~tell hacked_kernel about pastebin

hacked_kernel, at http://papernapkin.org/pastebin

Can you compile this code and tell me whats the output http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/583

lol

okay, got it working in glassfish, now I gotta actually make the mbean interface not blow goats
bokay, got it working in glassfish, now I gotta actually make the mbean interface not blow goats/b

hacked_kernel, fool me once....

anyone around whos familiar with Linux?

lots. But why not ask in #linux?

~tell markomarky about ask

markomarky, The Ask To Ask protocol wastes more bandwidth than any version of the Ask protocol, so just ask your question.

this is insanely offtopic, but i'll try and help

I know GNU/linux
is that the same thing?

Yes

he probably saw r0bby's logo and peed his pants

my logo?

r0bby made a logo?

GNU is the OS, linux is the kernel

I didn't design a logo

oof
not you
umm

that's all [krustofski]'s work

no
umm
the scary one

i would _NEVER_ make a logo that girly

I like that logo

I'll admit though, it's smooth

I was being silly

cybereal

all the logos ive made: http://beerwench.net/logos.html

I'm well aware of the mess that's called linux

http://exadel.com/web/portal/download/esp35?p_p_col_pos=3&have_read_and_agree=true&p_p_mode=view&_EXT_10_INSTANCE_xMlg_struts_action=%2Fext%2Frepository%2Fview&_EXT_10_INSTANCE_xMlg_file_name=ExadelStudioPro-4.0.4a-win.zip&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_id=EXT_10_INSTANCE_xMlg&p_p_state=normal&p_p_action=1&p_p_col_count=5

not r0bby, cybereal

i love that.

hrm. lots of noise. no java chat.

hey, that was javachat. pointing out how screwed up some vendors' websites are.

not you, eidolon
8^)=

we're talking about the ##java logos that [krustofski] has made and how disturbing they are...it's semi related

this http://javachannel.net/wiki/pmwiki.php/ChannelRegulars/Cybereal

which do you like?

let's take this all to private message

that'd be great

let's take the entire channel to pm
+q

as the wiki says "cheeser - What does any of this have to do with Java?"

yeah!

that sends to the channel

but it's a pm!

[krustofski]: I like #4

You know what I'm running into now? The fact that JBoss treats MBeans as lifecycle-managed entities... and glassfish treats 'em as if they're only MBeans

but they're all pretty funny
What is that line sticking out of pr3d4t0r's head?
an apple stem?

was supposed to be a plastic fallice

"phallus"

i rarely use that word :p

looks like a cheese doodle

needs some balls

where are these logos again?

for pr3d4t0r, that would be 3

[krustofski]: well, if only you had one.....

http://beerwench.net/logos.html

hehe

I like the wiggles one
it makes me think of Sou|cutter

jottinger, is that going to be an issue? MBeans are not managed on starupt / shutdown cycles of the app?

heh, it will be for what I want

well, and that's what we're doing here.

remember, I want db4o started with the app server... as an mbean, I will have to crank up jconsole and start it manually

exadel's download site is pig slow.

in jboss, mbeans are lifecycle-managed

i see.
is there no lifecycle hook in glassfish?

glassfish has lifecycle objects but I prefer portability

all you need to do is poke the mbean.

yes, yes, I know

so make a glassfish-specific jmx signaller.

~classload

vezzoni, I have no idea what classload is.

~classloader

vezzoni, I have no idea what classloader is.

of course, if I have a lifecycle bean, there's really no need for an mbean

yes yes

I can have the lifecycle bean itself start and stop the server

just like i'm doing now.
but noted.

Does Windows 98 have home directories?

when we start playing with Bid Bad BEA, it's going to get interesting.

I'm just thinking about dependencies

*looks at BlueLaguna*

right, which is why I'm trying to figure out the "right way" now
bright, which is why I'm trying to figure out the "right way" now/b

"You're specializing in a 9 year old dead OS."

I'm not specializing in it
but I don't want to ignore it

that was a joke. reference to a movie you obviously haven't seen.

yes you do

why not?
you really do want to ignore it.
it's as unsupported as they get.

hell, even MS wants to ignore it

no, ms wants to ignore WFW.

"Bob, the first and second Access product lines, Windows 9x..."

WFW?

and WinME
yes, see? you've never even heard of it.
kids these days.

Windows for workgroups.

Ah

and WinCE! (One of my alltime favorite OS names...)

aptly named.

I had Windows 3.1

PH/UX is probably my next favorite

Heh

anyway. avoid win98. and assume nothing about it. because it's brokedness is vast.

CE, ME, now we are only missing NT to build something... :-)

badump-bump.

re

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

indeed.

sorry for my ignorance, what does that "re" mean?

rhat sent me the official offer today :P
finally.

means 'hello again'

did you reject it?

no
it took VERY long to work it's way through the approval processes
but everything is good now

are you going to reject it?

why would i reject it? it's my dream job.

What's the best swing component to use for a paragraph of text?

...

i'll be getting paid to maintain the OSS project i started in the first place
among other responsibilites, of course

where's the love in that?

i love it.
not as much as i love you though

which project?

cbrock, which bit did yous tart?

MVEL
http://mvel.codehaus.org
a href="http://mvel.codehaus.org"http://mvel.codehaus.org/a

huh. okay. i thinkt hat's amost too high level for me to understand what it does

it's like the expression language in JSP or OGNL

yeah, the site is way under-maintained

neither of which i've ever touched :

it's being used inside JBoss though

a lot of things are used in jboss

eidolon, think of it as scripting for java

although MVEL has seen some interesting general scripting uses, such as in the i-Screen testing framework, etc.

OGNL wasn't hard to beat speed wise was it?

lots of non-web stuff actually

Is it being used in Jboss other than the rules engine?

blah, blah, blah

:P
not really. but there wasn't much else to compete against.

yeah

MVEL is also a much larger language than OGNL
it sits on the cusp of being a full blown scripting language

I don't think you can say "cusp" without being either a pharmacist or really pretentious

get out of "old coot" mode

never!

anyone doing screen scrapes with it?

~pastebin

at http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin

oooo, ponies

http://www.mvflex.org/mvelsh/MVELSH2.jpg
showing the beanshell-like shell thingy
(notice the auto-indents!)

integrating in the scripting framework in the future?

we are already BSF-compliant
we have all that stuff
someone else maintains that, though
not me

http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=2393 is there a safer way to read a short *.txt file into a String?

I just hate you all

"And, in conclusion, I hate you all."

ugh, damnit, I need to reinstall was 6.1 on this zlinux box because someone installed 6.0 on accident
uugh, damnit, I need to reinstall was 6.1 on this zlinux box because someone installed 6.0 on accident /u

is there an easy way to convert a string like "123" to an int?

I would hate you less if you didn't suck so much.

i changed you to Happy Rainbow Pony Mode

to read it in as an int

what the hell?

This IS happy rainbow pony mode.

that is a bad way...

Integer.parseInt()

You should see me in true curmudgeon flight.

1) available and ready can not be used in any sane way, forget that they exists

nice

it scares even me.

I know - that is why I'm asking

he can make a republican weep.

2) use readFully if you need to fill a byte array
3) use a Reader if you want to read String data

okay, i'm gonna get some coffee.
bbiafew

4) specify the character encoding when you read/write file data
(that means FileInputStream-InputStreamReader-BufferedReader)

character encoding doesn't matter
only A-Za-z0-9

there is no easy way to use a reader to read a full file...
you can use BufferedReader and read a line at a time or you can use nio and ByteBuffer+CharSetDecoder to fill a CharBuffer...
s/CharSetDecoder/CharsetDecoder/
also note that reading a full file in memory without first checking the size of the file is something that will cause your program to get OOME

it is a less than 1KB file fore sure
and it only contains a-zA-Z0-9 characters

homework?

no - Level Editor for http://mobilepicross.sf.net

note that the checks I advice you to add are really simple to add

the *.txt files contain the level data and are in a *.jar file

(one String per line) is what you want. Coding that is trivial...

the files only contain 1 line

then use BufferedReader and read just one line...

so I do BufferedReader blah = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(getClass().getResourceAsStream("/picross/lvl/Level" + level + ".txt"))); ?

tried it?

um, what? I'm just trying to find out what of all the things he mentioned I'ma do... :P

since you know that you have ASCII, then specify "US-ASCII" as character encoding

I'm not familar with readers, so bear with me
I am a J2ME programmer usually, and J2ME doesn't have this stuff. So please apologize that I don't know all the fancy stuff J2SE has to offer - I'm glad when I can get Swing to do what I want

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
exadel studio pro doesn't support jboss 4.2 either.
"I'm not happy, Bob. Not. Happy."

so I reduced http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=2393 to http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=2394 and this is supposed to work better?
well, it DOES work and I have no clue, so I guess I'ma trust you - thank you

IDEA seems to support jboss 4.2.0.GA

that's because IDEA rules.

yes

~pastebin

at http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin

http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=2395
I tried to compile rmi-example and run server
I got this error message. rmiregistry started
is my computer settings wrong

hi, I install the sun jdk6 in my kubunto7.04, and I need to add .jar but I don't know where! someone can help me??

alright.
i am. right now. downloading IDEA.
find out what all you wankers are going on about.

IDEA++

tell henrik_s__ about classpath

henrik_s__, The class path tells Java or the compiler in which jar files and folders to look for classes. Use the -cp/-classpath run-time options to specify the class path. Also see http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/tooldocs/solaris/classpath.html and http://mindprod.com/jgloss/classpath.html#ANACHRONISM

hmm
i wonder if i'm reading this wrong

Is there a good interface for java to the GNU GSL?

ok thanks

could you recommend a good book concerning network programming for Java? By network programming I mean client/server communication...

so the installers on both jboss-ide and exatel are looking for javax.servlet.jar in the jboss directory, and not finding it. maybe i'm missing a piece of 4.2.0?
because that seems sort of important.

eidolon, supply your own..

~tutorial sockets

[krustofski], tutorial sockets is http://java.sun.com/tutorial/sockets

what protocol?

well i'd rather not hack up the distro. it sounds like either i have the wrong configuration / distro of jboss, or the installers for the IDEs are looking for a file that doesn't exist in the new release.

unix network programming by stevens is a good start for basics
gets you and going on the bsd tcpip stack

eee, IDEA is a swing app. i'm so used to SWT.

IDEA doesn't work with Beryl.

heh
SWT!

is there a way to replace the default java webstart loading window with something else ?
suppose I wonna write a game and I wonna creating something more appealing to the eye

seems like there is...
http://www.curious-creature.org/
and google.com of course

Splash screen support is in JSE6 isn't it?

jws also has its own splash screen support
although, yes, it sucks for branding
since it says java all over it...

*shrug* think of it like flash or something

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/425/desperatewhoresxm8.jpg

maybe I should create a very small loader class which will show a splash screen while loading the rest of the jars

Reply asking them to send the mascot down to chat with you offline

Sou|cutter, flash doesn't have an annoying splash screen
so no, can't think of it like flash
oberonc, JWS itself supports a splash screen
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/javaws/developersguide/faq.html#206

is it safe to assume that when performing something like "int asciiVal = (int) someChar;" where someChar is definitely ASCII, that asciiVal will *always* be a valid decimal corresponding to the ASCII alphabet?

Alconquian, sounds about right... that's what ascii is...

tee hee hee

"If i run this ascii conversion on a char, will i -always- get an ascii value?"
b"If i run this ascii conversion on a char, will i -always- get an ascii value?"/b

eidolon, on an ascii char, no less

no, one time in a thousand it will open a black hole and suck you bodily into your computer.
bno, one time in a thousand it will open a black hole and suck you bodily into your computer./b

well, I guess I'm getting out of whack thinking of various charsets -- I assume it is possible I could use a charset that defines decimals 0-128 as something other than ASCII
I will stop trying to confuse myself

then that charset isn't ascii!

128 is an ASCII value
er, isn't
8^)=

ascii is a charset

oops, minus one

0-127 boyo :

then there's extended ascii...

8^)=

with the last bit...

http://rafb.net/p/uVHKvW10.html // can you guys see anything with that code that may cause client data sent to it not get printed? it pretends as if it isn't receiving the data, but if i use telnet, it works

so what is chr(150) then
isn't that just extended ascii?

afaik the whole upper register is charset / platform dependent.
heck, char(191) used to be a solid white bar when i was programming on TRS-80's.

ah, trash 80s

no, dont' ask why i remember that.
okay, which of you weenies said that IDEA supported jboss 4.2?
making a new module only shows me a picker for 4.0

you did!

did not!

thanks

it was me!

ewwww!

cheeser :P

tee hee hee

ubuntu--
did you fix karma, to reduce abuse?

i couldn't work on javabot last night because someone (ok, it was joed) broke the repo.

are you going to impelemnent a grace period, where-as someone can only effect someone elses karma points once within a set period.
?

could be.
there's a few bigger fish to fry first

:~(

hi again, I cant find the classpath of my java....
any help?

it's hiding?

I just don't know where it is

under the bed?
or in the closet?

are you gonna help or not?

tell henrik_s__ about tutorial

henrik_s__, tutorial is http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/

It's something you have to specify on the command line when using javac.

but I have the .jar files, I only want to know where to put them

Once you figure that out, you may want to move to Ant to save yourself a lot of hassle.
~classpath

The class path tells Java or the compiler in which jar files and folders to look for classes. Use the -cp/-classpath run-time options to specify the class path. Also see http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/tooldocs/solaris/classpath.html and http://mindprod.com/jgloss/classpath.html#ANACHRONISM

^

I allready see that...
or I need to specify the path to my jar files? is that I need to do?

Try it.

hi

doesn't work
"javac -cp /home/hs/j2ssh/j2ssh/dist/lib/ SftpConnect.java "
and it can't find some packages...
ok, it work
looks like I need to put only a jar file

I think you need to put ...lib/*

hey, what persistence layer is the simplest to use?

simple? jdbc is simple.
it's a lot of work but it's simple.

requiring the least work

the simplest, imo, is java serialization
just serialize your data to disk

oooh. good call.
*and* it requires the least work.

hehe

then you work your requirements up from there

could writing to a file be simpiler?
simpler

do you need a database? some sort of querying capability? do you know sql? etc.
bdo you need a database? some sort of querying capability? do you know sql? etc./b

pfn; i want sql. i'm a programmer. i just didn't work with java in a long time - i want to use wicket for the web and so i'm asking for something for the persistence layer.

why?

because i can't see how to get it to work with Jboss 4.2.

sopel next question then, do you want to use sql, or do you want to use an or mapper
usopel next question then, do you want to use sql, or do you want to use an or mapper/u

the plugin is up to date, but adding the J2EE extension to the project, it only shows 4.0 support

is there any function that will join strings from an array/list with separators inbetween?

use Eclipse!

pfn; whatever is simpler. i want the relations in the DB done for me basing on the objects

it's 'free'

not in the JRE, no

sopel then you don't want to use sql then

i do use eclipse.

sopel you should say so
sopel saying "whatever is simpler" gives me the impression you don't know much sql

StringUtils has a join method that will do that

use JPA and hibernate
or JPA and toplink

but it requires the commons-lang

pfn; i know much sql.

then yes, I would say use JPA and (implementation of choice)

what's that?

it's a jar
you gotta add to your classpath

for me, using sql is almost always simpler

ah, no go then
guess I'll have to do it

I mean, yeah, there's basic "crud", but still, it's not so difficult to just crank it out

simpler != better, though
as with anything, you have to weigh the tradeoffs

what about databinder?
i found it on the wicket site.

cheeser, there's many reasons why, for me, I can't use stuff like hibernate

sure.
and that's the case sometimes.

does IDEA have a way to take a constructor and create private fields for every parameter?

using an orm is a much more difficult path to follow when you have a preexisting schema...

it seems to be able to go the other way, but i just don't think that way

e.g. using hibernate isn't going to make my use of stored procedures any easier

i agree

hibernate supports stored procs...

and there's a big impedance mismatch between my relational schema and my *desired* domain model (at least if I go with it using a typical OR mapping)

simply knowing how to make a decent data model makes it a pain in the ass too

cheeser, yeah, but it doesn't make it any easier, which is the problem
JdbcTemplate brings a big benefit
whereas using hibernate doesn't for me

ugh
I hate screen scraping

get spring transactions, handling of jdbc finally { }, unified exception tree

waz sucks any way you look at it...

yep, especially for this site
javascript just adds to the fun too

great arguments for the "semantic" web and against ajax web2.0-y shit

I like your comment on the wiki. It made me laugh.

sans javascript I could make this work with scRubyt in no time

Is there a way to get a reference to an object in the call stack?

try scraping an ajax page

Is there an API in java to reference the callstack?

not in the JRE

someone put that there but I have been known to say that
cheeser, I am scraping HTML + Javascript, not a web guy but what would be different from AJAX

if class C is derived from B and B is derived from A and inside C you call super.method() does it go to B or A? and can you force it to go to A?

waz ajax doesn't store content in links, etc.

all three have a definition of method() but A is an abstract class

waz they're stored in javascript links
s/content in links/content in conventional links/

It's goes to B, then to A, and A would be created first of all of them.

right

Parents before children.

ajax makes in memory changes to the DOM in the browser. so what you get from a GET is idfferent

I'm dealing with content in JS
yeah

can i force it to go to A?

so, you not only have to parse the html, but you also need to evaluate the html
in order to get the true contents

right

and the js

s/evaluate the html/evaluate the javascript/

that's what I'm doing

which is the suck

Well A will be constructed first no matter what, but then B will be constructed (and must be) before C can be constructed.

jesus h. christ

in HttpServletRequest, there seems to be two methods isRequestedSessionIdFromUrl() and isRequestedSessionIdFromURL().. the first is marked deprecated in favor of the latter. but, doesn't URL violate sun's naming convention?

psyko_x, you can only call the immediate implementation of method()

why does PriorityBlockingQueue.iterator not return an iteration over the sorted order

OK that part makes sense to me but the thing is that when I call method() from C, I want it to use A's method() and not B's

psyko_x, can't do that

damn

breaks encapsulation

http://blogs.pathf.com/agileajax/2006/04/ajax_google_and.html and http://www.manageability.org/blog/stuff/screen-scraping-tools-written-in-java

guess i need to redesign this
thx
you could probably do it in C++ with pointers right?

maybe

wait theres something in the reflection api called "getSuperClass()". u think I could call that inside C and invoke C.getsuperclass.method()
thats so crappy

the manageability page tools are all pretty useless when ajax is involved
hit that long ago

psyko_x, what are you trying to achieve

are they? i just pulled up that list. i hadn't looked over them. was hoping some of them might help.

no

C, C.method() invoking A.method() doesn't make sense

screen-scraper.com is the best solution I've found to date
java based, decent way to rip out some scrapes
manageability is all about 'free' so his lists for stuff are of limited use

yea forget it. I need to fix my design...its just terribly organized atm

really? screen-scraper.com works well? is it a library or what?

Damn it would have solved my problem. I found new Thread().getStackTrace() returns an StackTraceElement [] but StackTraceElement does not give a reference to the object itself. It would have been nice...

it's a proxy written in java
free version isn't bad
and only $500 for the pay version

an http proxy? htf does that work? the proxy runs and periodically scrapes some content?

we're chasing a contract that'll be about 20 million a year in revenue
yeah, confusing until you try it out

hmm. i thought u don't have to define methods when creating an abstract class....just like interfaces

they call it a proxy but mostly the proxy function is to record some sessions to start building your code

that's gay. why is it an http proxy. I don't need EAI, I just need to scrape some sites. damn accountants and their reports

in production it's not doing proxy stuff

oh it has to be declared abstract duh

the proxy part is for during dev

it all looks very tedious

when is screen scraping not tedious?
for pure html you can do it amazingly easy with scRubyt, but add ajax to the mix and it gets tediuos

if I have installed SUN JAVA 1.6JRE and SUN JAVA 1.6 JDK, could java command have problems??

is there any static race condition detectors?

I was just expecting a library, maybe a dsl. screen-scraper.com looks like a freaking db. anyways I suppose I'll check it next week if I have time

if you're doing straight html there are much better solutions
though no DSLs that I know of in the java solutions
scRubyt is a nicely done DSL

I'm doing html.. though what is screen-scraper.com for if not html?

it'll do html but also javascript

~tell meeper about STFU.

meeper, http://eugeneciurana.com/galereya/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Humor&id=warning

~tell meeper about question

http://eugeneciurana.com/galereya/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Humor&id=mono_triste

which I require

~swing

tieTYT, swing is a windowing toolkit for Java. Tutorials: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/ and http://www.swingwiki.org/ also check out ##swing

#web would deal with DTD questions right?
~tell lintlock about dtd

lintlock, I have no idea what dtd is.

#xml more likely (i think that is ar
ound, still)

I installed SUN JAVA 1.6JRE and SUN JAVA 1.6 JDK, could java command imcompatible or theres no problem??

no

would you guys happen to offer support aswell?

who knows
we don't know what your problem is

CDocuments and Settings\Cyber\Desktop\JGuiDjava JGuiD
Error occurred during initialization of VM
java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object
:'(
just realized i havnt checked the forums

yeah im there whaly that was a dumb question by me
has anyone here ever worked with JPF before?

sounds like you buggered your java install
reinstall jdk/jre whatever

is it advisable to remove all prior versions of java before installing a new one?

nope
I keep a bunch of versions handy
even in Windows I don't think you need to
but not positive

Does the DTD reference in hibernate.cfg.xml (or wherever) rely on being able to reach whatever address is listed there all the time?

I compile a java file with a -cp option, and it compiles, but when I do java, doesn't run...
javac -cp /home/hs/j2ssh/j2ssh/dist/lib/j2ssh-core-0.2.9.jar SftpConnect.java
java SftpConnect
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/sshtools/j2ssh/authentication/SshAuthenticationClient
I already try java with -cp to
too

add . to your cp

could explain better?

~tell henrik_s__ about classpath

henrik_s__, The class path tells Java or the compiler in which jar files and folders to look for classes. Use the -cp/-classpath run-time options to specify the class path. Also see http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/tooldocs/solaris/classpath.html and http://mindprod.com/jgloss/classpath.html#ANACHRONISM

javac -cp /home/hs/j2ssh/j2ssh/dist/lib/j2ssh-core-0.2.9.jar:. SftpConnect.java
run that

return the same error

Anyone know where I can find tutorials on creating linux console applications using Java?

well... when I make the java, should I put the -cp too?

yeah
that's where I meant actually

it work, but I was hope some output... other problems lol

~tell gcbdm about firstcup

gcbdm, firstcup is a beginner's tutorial for getting started with Java available at http://java.sun.com/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava

~tell gcbdm about rbi

gcbdm, rbi is http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/reallybigindex.html

great tutorials.

GNU/linux console will probably mean jcurses too

no, i don't think he's asking about that

Thank you. We took Java in school, but never reading from what the user wrong in the console

i want to make a grid-like graph in swing. What layout manager would be good for putting the grid together?

what the user *wrong*?

ah gridlayout i'm sure

tieTYT, if it's an image, I would probably just draw it

I mean arguments.

tieTYT, instead of using components

that's a good idea but doesn't work for me. I'm gonna place a bunch of JLabels together and draw on the jlabels (it's not possible to be between jlabels for my graph)

waz in windows you don't need to delete prior versions either

http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=2397
example on how to use Scanner

pfn, didn't think so but wasn't sure
I'm pretty windows iliterate these days
heh
nice word to misspell=!

does anybody know if there is a smooth way to get all the information of all the objects which are created from some class using java.lang.reflect?

Altair^: tutorial
er nevermind

drugs.

~reflection

r0bby, reflection is http://java.sun.com/tutorial/reflect

^^ helpful

would any of you classify yourselves as geeks ?

why?

no geeks here!

is jsp in this channel?

#jsp

cheers

some people see it as a complement

or not, empty :P

Thanks, I'll take a look.

apparently

you still haven't answered why?

it's very simple

yuh - why?

Is using Scanner the most efficient way?

yes, it's actually the easiest

curiosity

lol, my question generated loads of general talk but no answers

Thank you. And I'd imagine if you want to pass parameters you would need to read args

Tip: don't prematurely optimize your code

Altair^: no - I believe there isn't

you'd iterate the args array, yes

Thanks, I'll play a bit with it.

args.length would be the number of arguments passed

no. it's: args.numerOfArgumentsPassed()

Mispelled like that?

yes, without the b
i don't know why sun did it like that
always thought it was weird

lol

heh

is it me, or do Linux GUI's have the worst font kerning ever?

font kerning?

Hmm

cbrock, I think so, yeah

yes, font kerning.

space between characters, iirc

That is weird
args.length would also work however since it's an array

hey happy_broccoli

or should

did you ask here?

good font kerning has good, dynamic spacing between the letters.

cbrock, that would be in a non-fixed-width font

Guess I'll have to play with it since usually you do 'javathing -abc nnn'

but yes, you're right
linux apps have shitty font kerning

it's not you

all my graphviz diagrams suffer from it

i literally don't know how people function in linux.

http://paste.hanhuy.com/graph/tomcatClassLoaders
example, check out the se in server

they tweak

or sh and re in shared

and tweak

you look at font rendered in OS X or Windows XP/Vista and then look at it in a Linux app

and tweak

and you just SENSE something wrong with the Linux app

My fonts look fine.

heh

i'm sure they do.
the fonts look fine to me too, except for the shitty kerning!

cbrock, well, linux is fine when it comes to fixed-width fonts ;-)

the individual letters look marvelous!
yeah, even Swing is half-decent.

my next desktop will probably be a linux box

you'd think after like a bazillion years of development, that GTK+ or Qt, or whatever would get decent font rendering

Which distros have you tried?
You can use any linux font you desire for your applications.

it's not a matter of the font itself

cbrock, I don't think it's so much a failure of rendering, but a failing of the font definition

linux is just a poo desktop OS.
everyone needs to come to terms with this

Yup. You just enjoy your proprietery software

cbrock, it's helpful if you have screenshots illustrating which apps in particular you're having problems with

I do.

ubuntu isnt that bad

INTit, yeah, I'm tempted to run kubuntu

KDE Gnome

every single application i've looked at since I've installed Ubuntu

Gnome***

##politics - ###politics if it gets really flaming

cbrock, screenshot and pastebin
gcbdm, huh?

Ubuntu uses Gnome as desktop environemnt and Kubuntu uses KDE

gcbdm, I know, that's why I said I'm tempted to use kubuntu

Go for it, very easy to install

I honestly don't know the difference between gnome and kde
except that kde has ksnapshot, which is handy
and gnome has no equivalent at all
which basically makes it "garbage" ;-)
I suppose I could just install all the kde requirements and run ksnapshot in gnome
bI suppose I could just install all the kde requirements and run ksnapshot in gnome/b

the developers on Linux dond't care about font rendering, since it all looks the same for bitmaps - and who would write code with anything but bitmap fonts

Or use something which runs from the console

also, in some applications the font rendering seems half-decent nowadays

gcbdm, ksnapshot copies to the clipboard
gcbdm, there is no console app that copies to clipboard

then again, if it looks bad, there is no way for layman to know what to tweak

only thing i miss about windows is the games

~pastebin

at http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin

i guess for most of you thats not a factor though

INTit, dual boot or vmware

dual boot

~pastebin

at http://papernapkin.org/pastebin

but my windows installation has screwed up so i havent used windows for awhile now

~pastebin

at http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin

~pastebin

at http://papernapkin.org/pastebin

fuck

ive got windows & linux installed on seperate hard disks

papernapkin won't accept my paste
and pr3d4t0r's doesn't have image
i've therefore lost interest in this excercise
hey wait
i think i made it work

i cant repair the windows disk as recovery console crashes

what's wrong with the disk?

cbrock, http://paste.hanhuy.com/screenshot

too late - you've lost interest now

cbrock, copy to clipboard alt-prtscreen and paste

No, but console app saves your screenshot

...

gcbdm, I know, but I don't care for that, I'm not looking for that usage

i know how to take a screenshot

cbrock, no ... click the go button :p

it's not working
says nothing available for paste
see. linux is dumb.
there's a screen grab app
but it saves to a PNG

cbrock, I guess vista also behaves differently... damn pos
cbrock you copied the image to clipboard or the file?

png is bad?

no. png is good.

cbrock, ksnapshot will grab to clipboard

fuck
i'll use my webserver
for christ sakes
http://www.mvflex.org/mikes/screenshot-ubuntu.jpg

do you have a specific nit in this particular image?

yes, the rendering of the font Sans... everywhere

What's a good encryption to use for a small string that can be placed in the URL?

cbrock, it seems a little overspaced, but besides that, it looks about right

rot 26

cbrock, it's not as bad as the graphviz image I pasted a little while ago
mele-, use a one-time-hash

like?

uh, like md5, sha1, fips-180, etc.

one way hashs

well, both one-way and one-time, to protect against replay attacks

okay, now the same in another shell

problem is someone can always generate a hash and fake all of the parameters

mele-, simple, the hash contains a secret only the server knows
so no, someone cannot generate a hash and fake the parameters
e.g. H( secret : param1 : param2 : param3 )

True

without secret, no one else can fake the parameters

SO you're saying take the key and generate a hash on it with an extra key

I don't know what exactly you're trying to accomplish

http://www.mvflex.org/mikes/screenshot-vista.jpg

secure a request to a server and ensure the parameters are untouched

cbrock, again, my only real complaint is that the characters in linux are slightly overspaced, but otherwise even
cbrock actually, if you look at 'partner' in the upper right in vista

that slightness is super annoying

it looks noticeably worse than on linux

that's an image
not rendered text
where it says "partner accounts" ... that's a JPEG image

nice.

mele- ssl?

I don't think you get that sort of typesetting problems using latex

i'd take a screenshot on my macbook too, for completeness, but my girlfriend stole it.

Call the 5-0

re

jottinger!

hey

hang on to that girl!

until she gives it back at least

She's clearly smarter than you.

http

i got officially hired by red hat today.

congrats!

will be working in the JBoss Group
of course.

even better

in the SOA group of the JBoss Group, more specifically.
so JBoss AS is of no consequence to me

lots o stock options?

so no
yes, actually

then JBoss AS is of consequence

hahaha
yes, of course.
i meant in my duties, and what products i'm working on

now you're my biotch!

yeah, I'm just messing around

why is that?

because most of the JBoss Group is my bitch

hrmm, another jboss person to call you and yell

hah

i will give you no such pleasure, satan-spawn!

Oh, you will
yodayou will./yoda

is rikard doing anything these days?

haha
rickard did exactly what I thought he would
I tried to explain that to Bill at JIA but did he listen? Noooooo

so we have a script that plays jedi mind tricks "I'm a new kind of system, you can talk to me just like a real person. For example if you want to pay your bill you can say 'I'd like to pay my bill with my credit card'. What can I do for you?" and amazingly often the response is "I'd like to pay my bill.... Wait, that's not what I want!"

HAHAHAHA
~waz++

waz has a karma level of 87, jottinger

hahahahaha
ROFL

I've done that
although I don't think I've gotten that far... "I want t.. err..."

how do I cast the contents of an arraylist as int?
ArrayList x=new ArrayList(); x.add(1); int i=x.get(0); returns a type mismatch error...
incompatible types (same same)
is there a way to cast the contents of an arraylist to int, much like can be done with string using toString?

x = new ArrayListInteger(); x.add(1); int i = x.get(0);

brilliant!

~tell mzanfardino about autoboxing

mzanfardino, autoboxing is http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/language/autoboxing.html

you might want to read that also

(or am I misunderstanding your suggestion).

are you using java 1.5 or above?
Integer is a java.lang class so you don't need to import it

I've been burned by this question before, as I'm still new to java. My project souce is 1.5, if that's what you want.
sou

~tell mzanfardino about generics

mzanfardino, generics is http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/language/generics.html Generics tutorial: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5/pdf/generics-tutorial.pdf FAQ: http://www.angelikalanger.com/GenericsFAQ/JavaGenericsFAQ.html

I like that last link in particular, but those all should sorta explain the syntax I gave you

(about sax how do i create a ContentHandler that relays the stream to an InputSource?
as i'm not really into SAX, i'm just using it to connect a resource of an XMLDB to a JAXB unmarshaller...

thank you for the help. I had mistyped Integer as integer. Once resolved it works fine.

good stuff

indeed! I'm learning something new with Java everyday!

so... where was I

I reread Pat Frank's "Alas, Babylon" today

stupid dsl is in the shitter today

Also, does anyone know how I can run a Java program from a Linux console without having to do 'java classname'?
So judt doing 'classname' in the console would run my program

write a shell script that does java classname

there's a way to setup an execute association with .class files..

Ah, didn't even think of that.

bin_misc or something..

you realize that you aren't running your program when you use java, you're running the java VM, which takes your bytecode and executes it

Didn't know that

gcbdm, add BINFMT_JAVA to your kernel

Hi guys, I have a customer whis is running ojdbc and tomcat. Every single instance uses about 180MB of memory I was wondering if there's a trick to optimize this because it doesnt scales very well. Any idea? thanx in advance

Ah nice, thanks

nettie, why are you running multiple instances

pfn It's not me, I just logged it on this box, and I'm trying to understand what's actually going on ..

hey
evening
is anyone acquainted with JADE ?
Java Agent Development Framework ?

all I can see is that ther're something like 30+ ojdbc.jar running

why are you running 30?
are you on linux kernel 2.4?
nettie, instead do ps axf

pfn yes the box runs 2.4
it's a rhel
3

fanook:java posse is pretty boring

nettie, then it isn't 30 processes as you think they are

as much as i love hearing portly balding programmers with a brittish accent drone on about web application frameworks

it's a decent java news podcast. they recently finished putting out some of the javaOne talks
and honestly, there's really nothing else out there

Check out the TSS video tech briefs.
They are a lot more fun.

can't listen to those at work

The latest one has a frog in it.
It's video.

BRITISH not Brittish. _;;;

are those dynamically created ? and how much memoery you think they'll consume? I'm sorry but I dont have experience on Java and I was just trying to help if I could.

make_heap that sucka'

yes, i got that from your first use of the word 'video'. but i still can't listen to it at work

Why?

is your boss named adolf? thats a pretty strict policy - no music while developing
from my experience most places allow it
then again my experience is one place

Progressive blocks most streaming media. i listen to podcasts on my ipod

Ah.

ohhh, yeah streaming is one thing

You need a tunnel.

they dont like that because it slows down the network

I'm connected from my office right now, through a tunnel to one of my servers.

Fanook, works at progressive?

haha

There are many things policy doesn't let us do. Like connect to IRC.

i mean

pr3d4t0r, that's what ssh is for ;-)

So I just use my server.
Yup.

i dont have the cojones to ask if i can use irc

ahahah the cojones

they dont explicitly forbid it, but it seems wrong

they disabled downloading files to my local machine too

I run SSH on ports 80 and 443.

what a "spaniard" way to say it...

so i'm forced to use IE6 too. don't feel like testing whether i can install a good browser

what do mexicans say? huevos?

im sure pr3d4t0r will correct me

heh
man

Güevos.

pfn, exactly.

eggs haha

pfn, which sounds nicer! :P

i prefer "balls" thank you
testicles if im trying to sound scientific

Mexican and Russians use "eggs".
Pelotas in Spanish also works.
Tompiates.

Talayotes

Bolas.
Tanates.

im sure theres no shortage of diry jokes at the breakfast tables all across mother russsssia

Tamagos!
:P

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahn!

Fanook, what a sucky computer to use then...

la tuya...

Fanook, you should just reinstall linux on it instead ;-)

this means 0 offence to Fanook hes obviously a very talented programmer, but around here insurance companies are sort of a joke, they are like the fall back employer if you cant get with someone else
they are ALWAYS hiring ANYONE

'here' is where?

midwest, MN/WI

oh

oh, and i think we're still on win2k

whats_in_a_name, I've never heard of that connotation

~tell whats_in_a_name about code.

http://eugeneciurana.com/galereya/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Humor&id=cat_0009

that's not an insult, that what this was :P I need the experience and i couldn't find a java programmer job

my c0dez are teh 1337
s0 leet you cant see them

I just downloaded MySQL Connector/J and tried 'java BaseTestCase.java' to simply see if it works, I know *nothing* of java, and am trying to get a web sutie up and running, but am having MySQL Issues
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: EscapeProcessingTest/java when I try any of the test apps

classpath + package issues, i bet

~tell Egonis about firstcup

Egonis, firstcup is a beginner's tutorial for getting started with Java available at http://java.sun.com/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava

Egonis, your web suite should have instructions on how to run it

It's Open-Xchange and is horribly documented. It says -- try running the admin app, if that doesn't work, test with MySQLAdmin -- a non-java app
I am confident that it is a java issue on my linux server

Egonis, well, read the firstcup page first
then come back

will do, thank you

Egonis, another hint, .java files need to be compiled
a final hint, you do not include the file extension when you use the 'java' command (except with java -jar)

a game of clue?!

pfn, the main problem is that the ojdbc eats a lor of memory and it starts swapping.
lor == lot

nettie, why are you using ojdbc? what is ojdbc, odbc-jdbc?

I am using gentoo and noticed I don't have jdbc-mysql installed -- however the app I am using has a jar file for mysql. I am going to try the jdbc-mysql module installation and see what happens

Egonis, given your current problems, that makes no difference

because they're running oracle on the box

Egonis, read documents before installing garbage
nettie running this java program and oracle on the same box? I'd be more willing to bet that oracle is eating up all the memory
not tomcat

well they're runnign the world on this box
that's mostly theproblem
they're running apache, tomcat, orable, mysql 3.23, mysql 4.0
qmail
mailman
ehehe
has 2 GB
of ram

wow, they really have a clue how to run their box don't they...

it's not really loaded
exaclty
that's the point
it's like a all you can eat
totally unsecure
mysql ports exposed to the world
anyway
major cleanup needed
problem is that when I see what's running I see 30+ ojdbc processes having an RSS of 180MB each

they're not ojdbc processes

the rest has a basic memory usage footpring

and they don't have an RSS of 180MB *each*

footprint

what you see is an artifact of threading on linux kernel 2.4

damn you're right we're on 2.4
totally forgot that

Exception: com.mysql.jdbc.Driver

Egonis, pastebin an entire transcript of what you're doing
Egonis, giving single line pastes like that are not going to get you any help