i want to make an IRC server to make some bouncers for example and as far as i know to get more than 4 connexions

Anyone?

where can i found one book/pdf/howto/etc about apache high performance and tuning?

here: http://apache.pastebin.ca/601778
performaqnce

what?

performance

performance is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/perf-tuning.html or http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/misc/perf-tuning.html

What fajita said

so ... RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^(p_l_id=PUB.1013.*) is capturing anything that matches the string and applies the rewrite rule to it?

perf-tuning might need some updating

RewriteCond says "if this is true, run the following RewriteRule"

http://etabetapi.com/py -- i use that file for my config file, when i enter http://py/css/ i get http://py/css/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/?index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/
any clues?:|

In this case, it captures the entire query string.
And because it'sa Rewritecond, it captures it into %1 rather than $1
Yeah, that rewriterule looks like it would loop.
You'd need to preface it witha rewritecond
looping

looping is http://rewrite.drbacchus.com/rewritewiki/Looping

sweet thanks DrBacchus its not working but it gets me on the right track

At this point, one should look at the rewritelog and see if it's doing what you had in mind.

hmmm, i dunno :s. it acts up on /css, /images and /js. if i try random stuff it doesn't act up
and i edited out the rewrite rule

"random stuff" is rather vague.

as in /asdf/

The rule matches /something/something
so it will only run on URLs containing something after that second slash.
However, what it's actually trying to accomplish, I'm unsure, since /$1?$2/ seems more than a little pointless.

clean urls

clean urls is killing me any help

"clean urls" is a sufficiently vague term that it means something different to almost everyone who uses it.
Let me rephrase.
I see exactly what the rewriterule DOES.
What I don't see is why it would want to do that.
And not knowing in what context it would be run, I'm not sure what to tell you to do to make it not loop.
However, it seems clear to me that it will loop on almost any valid URL that contains two slashes.

i want my urls to look like www.example.com/1/2/3/4/5/6 and internally look like www.example.com?1/2/3/4/5/6

thanks... I have it tailed right now but its not capturing http://whatever.cokm/c/portal/layout?p_l_id=PUB.1013.1 but it doesnt seem to be grabbing the QUERY_STRING (p_l_id=PUB.1013.*)

is it possible to use a rewrite rule to redirect to an internal virtual host?

Yes.

images virtual host internally so I can use the same ssl certificates cert

cool

Probably you'll want to use proxypass
ProxyPass /images http://internal.host/images
Or, if you really want to use mod_rewrite for some reason, use the [P] flag

reverse proxy

reverse proxy is http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies
reverse proxy is a href="http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies"http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies/a

of course, it might be easier to just use an alias

Perhaps pastebin a few hundred lines of the rewritelog.

but using just an alias seems so blah... doesn't make you feel godly like doing a reverse proxy does... :P

why can't you just serve those images directly from your ssl vhost?

because it's a separate virtual host

using the same filesystem as the ssl vhost?

it's technically possible but would require a lot of code changes

I mean e.g. 'Alias /images /path/to/images' could be an option?

unfortunately no... currently the images are stored in the db

eww

yeah, we're working on that

http://apache.pastebin.ca/601798

I'm confused. It looks like it's working.
Isn't that what you wanted?
it's being converted to /c/portal/layout/p_l_id=PUB.1013.1
What did you want instead?

yeah it looks like it huh... but its not actually redirecting

Oh.
I didn't say you wanted it to redirect.
If you want it to redirect, use [R] rather than [PT]

or rewrite sorry

It is rewriting. It is not redirecting.
What is it not doing that you wanted it to do?

actually rewriting is what I need... sorry om

Ok, that's what it's doing.
Is it possible that you asked the question backwards?
That you wanted /c/portal/layout/p_l_id=PUB.1013.1 converted to /c/portal/layout?p_l_id=PUB.1013.1 instead of the other way around?
Otherwise, I'm still confused as to what you're desiring.
What exactly is happening, and in what way does it differ from what you want to be happening?

I want users to be able to go to http://whatever.com/c/portal/layout?p_l_id=PUB.1013.1 and have the possibility of throwing deny and allows directives against it...
but it seems you cant write rules like Location and Deny against queries (or so it seems) so Im trying to rewrite the actual site then add my rules... Does that make sense?

anyone good with perl and fastcgi or mod_perl? I'm trying to migrate some old code. Is there a way to make FCGI clear global variables? This code was poorly written and didn't "use strict;", so often variables aren't initialized before they are appended to and etc.

Yes, it does. But I suspect that you are indeed going about it the wrong way.
Rather than rewriting it, you can apply allow and deny rules directly based on the result of the RewriteCond

also, the 'do' and 'require' don't act as they normally do

If you can describe precisely what you're trying to do, that would be a good start.

then it's probably less dangerous as straight CGI

greetings

greetings user

does apache have a kind of balancer that can start scgi apps on it's own?

I don't know what scgi is, but there's mod_proxy_balancer which is a balancer.

scgi

scgi is like fastcgi

dunno if mod_proxy_fcgi + balancer would be of interest there

Ah. s for slow, as opposed to fcgi?
That's cool.

um well, i would like the balancer to handle instances of the scgi app. like starting them if needed and killing them after some time to avoid leak

Im using a Liferay server which runs on port 8080 and I have it running through a proxy to accept port 80 request. One of the "open doors" I found is that anyone can just access the page directly by typing http://whatever.com/c/portal/layout?p_l_id=PUB.1013.1 (PUB is basically the different communities) so what I would like is to prevent access to certain parts of the site based on IP or whatever conditions.

ok
so you can use rewritecond to look at the query string, and at the dedicated ip hosting address

ok i see. how hard would that be to implement? lighty has that almost but i am unable to read the code in a reasonable time.

and if those match (or don't match, as the case may be) use a [F] rule to block them.

biik

sodomy non sapiens

rewritecond querystring, and rewritecond remoteaddr, followed by rewriterule . - [F]

Exactly... or so I hope

That'll be rather simpler than what you were doing.

where would the file a2enmod be located usually?

rewritecond %{QUERY_STRING} whatever, then Rewritecond %{REMOTE_ADDR} !whatever, then rewriterule . - [F]

Thats great to hear... it seems a dark slippery slope for a while

On a Debian box.

suse

suse is the retarded fat kid of distributions.

Then you don't have it.

That is a Debian utility.
It is not a standard Apache thing.

http://en.opensuse.org/Setting_up_a_Subversion_server_using_Apache2

can I do allow rather than forbid?... it opens to door a little easier... if not thats find too

hi all

All is not in today, supervos

so I have to change httpd.conf myself instead?

can someone help me with the following error

allow what, specifically? If it's "allow these IP addresses" then that's the same as "deny from NOT these IP addresses"

it's also more slow as straight CGI.

Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load:
API module structure `php5_module' in file /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so is garbled - perhaps this is not an Apache module DSO?
i cant seem to fix it
does anyone know this error?

this error is real depressing

blarp

blarp is see sneex

So if you can describe what you want to allow (or deny) that might help.

Exactly ... the "allowed" ips would be smaller

It means that you're using a libphp5.so that wasn't built for that apache
That's the same as "deny from NOT these IPs"

ok but how can i fix it, it has workt before
happend over night

The action is forbid, so you want to say: RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} !(ip list here)

after a installe of php5-xsl

Where ! means NOT

I had a long winded reply but thats it thats what I needed
P

For example, RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} !(10\.|192\.168\.)
or whatever range you're interested in.
Then RewriteRule ^ - [F], which means "deny all requests"

I would buy ya a beer if I could
it works perfectly

any solution to my problem?

Well, good deal.

Robert

Install a version of mod_php that matches your version of Apache.

i use debian an apache 2
ive installed the correct mod
what mod should i use ???

Well, then I'm not sure what else to suggest. Just going by what the error message says.

apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
thats the mod i used
should work
libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 289 not upgra

You were extremely helpful thankyou again and have a good day
Imaoutahere

Ok, bye. :-)

i just update to apache 2.2.2 and ik works again
seems to be a apache problem rather then php

It is neither an "apache problem" or a "php problem"
It is a php host so that is not compatible with the installed Apache.
I would be more inclined to say it's a "debian problem"

EBKAC?

EBKAC is Error between keyboard and chair

aka human error

speak for yourself, earthman

EBKAC is wrong.
There is just one true such thing and that is PEBKAC.

wilx is an fule

is there an alternative I can do on suse instead of a2enmod?

Night`

I don't of a comparable tool on Suse, however, it's just a matter of uncommenting a line in a config file. It's not complicated.

ah
it's for adding dav and dav_svn actually

yast has a facility for enabling modules in apache
assuming you are using the suse package of apache

yeah
been a while since I had to work with suse

I cannot guide you right to it, but i promise it is burried in there somewhere It will even fetch the module when you enable it if you do not have it and all it needs installed

the modules are there already

peace

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it

fajita++

who is us

us is so good at choosing the most unbelievably stupid arguments to justify stupid actions, so you can say... oh, it's not their fault, they're stupid

hehe

heh

Hi there! when I create a rewriterule, how can I leave the url the same ? (now its changed to the rewritten form, so you see the query string again)

That rather depends on the rule in question.

really? oh okay

In general, if you use [R] or a fully qualified URL, it will redirect, and the browser will see the new URL.

yes

Let's see the rule, and we can advise.

RewriteRule ^winner/(.*)$ /site.php?act=label_example&winner=$1

I presume that by "leave the url the same" you mean "the browser doesn't display the new address"

yes indeed

Ok, in this case you should 1) remove the leading slash on /site.php and 2) add a [PT] to the end of the rule.
That should do it. Probably.

hmm no
now it searches for a directory /winner/10

Meaning what, exactly?
"it searches for" ? What is happening, precisely?

oh wait i think its wokring

yep it works now, thanks a lot

You're very welcome.

guys

I guess you want the rest of us to ignore you then, dracony

i cant compile any so files
with apxs
only la gets creted

bbl

apxs -i

i tried
i get aan error
abi used apxs -i -a -c

get an error?

Saying "gets an error" without saying what that error was is a little unhelpful.

Warning! dlname not found in /usr/local/apache/modules/mod_bw.la.Assuming installing a .so rather than a libtool archive.
and then no .so file gets created, just a bunch of la, slo

Invalid command 'SVNListParentPath', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server host configuration
any idea?
module dav_svn not loaded perhaps?

servus
verzweifel da gerade an einem Problem und hoffe hier auf Hilfe
hat da vielleicht mal jemand Zeit für mich?
okay, dann schreibe ich einfach mal mein Prob und hoffe, das jemand was dazu weiß
habe VHost direktiven angelegt, apache2 erkennt allerdings nur die erste an

I suspect you should start talking in English.

okay
i created vhost entrys but apache2 just knows the first one
all other he ignores
wenn i type another subdomain in the browser he redirects me to the first one
any idea?

faq1

exactly. For example, NameVirtualHost *:80 must be used with VirtualHost *:80

its a namebased vhost

yes, and ?

VirtualHost *
ServerName subdomain.domain.nic
on another server i have the same vhost-entrys with another domain and its working fine

are you aware that that isn't much help ?

well if he was, he wouldn't have given you that pitiful bit of info... :P

McUles step one, faq1, etc...
read logs, be specific in what's happening - damn what's that factoid again ?

i had a lock in the logs /var/log/apache2/...
but there is no hint wats happend

that is *highly* unlikely
apache did not use any of the other vhosts - of which we've seen nothing, mind you, it's all just guesswork for now

i can show you the vhost vonfig
vhost-config
VirtualHost *
ServerAdmin mcules@bundfreierwelten.de
ServerName syscp.reddragon-cafe.de
DocumentRoot /srv/www/htdocs/syscp
Directory "/srv/www/htdocs/syscp"
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None

AllowOverride None means "Please ignore my htaccess files." and is the default setting. or See http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2003/12/04/apacheckbk.html

Order allow,deny

Order allow,deny is The Allow directives are evaluated before the Deny directives. Access is denied by default. Any client which does not match an Allow directive or does match a Deny directive will be denied access to the server

Allow from all

Allow from all is a whorehouse, innit?

/Directory
LogFormat "%t %b" common
CustomLog /srv/www/htdocs/log/apache2/syscp.log common
/VirtualHost
is fajita an bot?
the other vhost entrys are in the same style but with another servername, documentroot and directory

for some reason php apps are responding really slow on my machine, "Waiting for..." is what my browser says and eventually it transfers the data and displays the page, but I can't figure out what is causing the delay
the only thing that has changed recently was the resolv.conf, and afterwards I restarted apache, but no luck
looking at /server-status shows me 4 idle servers, 3 requests being processed, keepalive (K), sending reply (W) and waiting for connection (_)

McUles are you wondering why nobody is responding to your avalanche ?

APACHE_MODULES="..." in /etc/sysconfig/apache2 ? (suse linux)

a bit

hacim DNS issues can cause delays, yes - do you have DNS resolution enabled for your apache logs ? DON'T
really, don't use DNS resolution in apache logs

nope, I dont have DNS resolution enabled for logs, i'm sending them offsite via logger+syslog too
HostnameLookups Off

you're sending the logs offline immediately ?

why is nobody answer me?

yes

McUles because A. you're flooding the channel, which is bad form, and B. you're not listening to what people are saying - if given a link or suggestion, please follow them
read whatever is on the other end, and digest the information.. then try to look at your situation with a fresh mind and perhaps ask a question that anybody has a chance of actually answering
bread whatever is on the other end, and digest the information.. then try to look at your situation with a fresh mind and perhaps ask a question that anybody has a chance of actually answering/b

it was the resolver

yers
killed it, didn't ya ?

yeah, much happier now

I have an Alias directive in httpd.conf that's sending /stats to another directory, but it's being overridden by the user's .htaccess file, is there a way to prevent this? All of my experimentation has come up with nothing
and btw, there's nothing in the error log

AllowOverride

AllowOverride tells Apache what things you wish to permit in .htaccess files. See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#allowoverride

That's got to be the first time ever I didn't type Ovveride first time.

that's still better than allowwoveride

Well, normally it doesn't have Allow next to it. Die, c#, die!

well, we want to allow them to set up .htaccess files to do whatever, but would still like to be able to force /stats to whatever
basically, they set up wordpress and wordpresses mod_rewrite stuff and then write in complaining that their stats don't work

Read the gosh-darned page.
Tee hee, mod_rewrite. Dooomed.

JeremyK allowing rewrite in htaccess is... well, you already know what it is
JeremyK there is a workaround, of course.. use a stats.whatever vhost and use subdirs for peoples' sites, doing away with the /stats altogether
or, use a subsubdomain of stats

ask

If you have an apache related question, please go ahead and ask it. We will not beat it out of you. We won't bite you either, at least until we get to know you better

how do you set apache to list the images in the directory

I think you missed a "the" between "set" and "apache"

rename the index.html?

aight coo, thanks for your help guys
I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something i missed, heh

halp! got some mod_rewrite issues
http://pastebin.ca/602199 .htaccess with rewrite rules and _GET dump to go with it
I have no idea whats going on there, from what I understand the first rule should get invoced because it is a /rss/ request, because of that it should then rewrite properly and stop processing
but apparently it dosn't stop or something happens because I only get ".php", which isn't part of any of the test URIs
Any thoughts?

voodoo

see mod_rewrite

hehe

Noia rewrite does not touch the query string

well, it "rewrites" what php sees and which files are executed
the problem being, the values are not being filled like they should

)

no, that's what I am saying

what actually happens?
step one

whatever the problem, step one is to look in the error log (and any other logs that may apply, such as suexec, mod_rewrite, or mod_security).

mmm, I cant quite get it to write logs =\

rewritelog

rewritelog is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritelog http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritelog. Use this logging to help design and track rewrite; see also rewriteloglevel; and cannot be used from .htaccess

"cannot be used from htaccess"

er...
right, I can't access the config files =\
adaptr, what do I do in a situation where I can't add the rewrite directives to the config?

despair ?

set up a local copy and test against that

bonjour, oxi.

I need help with access logs
6 +0200] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "Java/1.6.0-rc" 4 "*****.**"
what can be the reason for the hyphen "-" after "200"?

so you can subtract a little and make a nicer code?

?
I believe it says how much bytes are submited and "-" would be zero bytes
but I have no idea why my script should return zero bytes randomly
further I don't know if this means that no header at all was submited, ... that I had a packet loss...

that does sound mysterious

the problem is that is occurs very randomly
with exaclty the same script

php?

is a scripting 'language' that is enabled by loading mod_php and by adding 'AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php' or you can look at http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHPDownload

yep, php

intrusive woman,

critical failure with debug(0)?

what exactly do you mean?
I first thought it might be sql host table locking, but I don't catch any exceptions

oxi, if your script experienced a critical failure and debug was set to 0, no information would be sent

and it occurs on scripts where the state never changes and the input keeps the same
that is in my php.ini, right?
can I read out of phpinfo(); what is set?
I believe in this case the server is sending nothing at all, as I had a different case where just a header with no data was sent, but that was exactly at the time when I uploaded a new script over the existing one
and at the other case my client recognized an empty header being sent
but this time a get java web hosting end of file exceptions

oxi, you can read with the ini functions

huh, not sure what you mean
ini functions?

http://no.php.net/ini_set

thanks a lot!
...seems to me that this just overrides php.ini settings
could you be more specific about debug(0)?

debug(0) it a loglevel
if its set to 0, you will not get any errors or warnings of any kind
as such, when a script fails criticaly, it will output nothing, no header...nothing.

I'm upgrading from 2.0 to 2.2 and the behavior of my virtual hosts is changing. I'm slogging thru the docs trying to fix things, and it's looking like the setup for 2.0 was "easier" than for 2.2. For example, I used to have the main web server host with some extra local services on it (awstats, etc), and I used an include directive to get the .conf files for each virtual host.
This way I could edit one virtual file with less risk to the others.
Under 2.2, it looks like all my "local" services are now being turfed to the first virtual server I have.
This seems to happen regardless of whether or not I have a NamedVirtualHost directive.
Might somebody be able to point me at a decent example of how to do this sort of thing with 2.2?
Oh, I'm also trying to leave the stock configs alone so I have less chance of damage if somebody updates the installation. I do put the httpd.conf file under a source code manager.

default vhost

The first-listed virtual host is always the default one when using name based virtual hosts. See http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2004/01/08/apacheckbk.html for more details.

the config really didnt change as it relates to vhosts from 2.0 to 2.2
might some issue to do with the order in which your files are included

All I know is that when I fire up apache2 I get the old behavior, and when I fire up 2.2 I get different behavior. Is there a way to "trace" the includes? I am using different httpd.conf files...

are you building from source or using a package?

freebsd ports tree

I'ts probably a config layout issue related to the distro package

'k, I'll keep digging, thanks. It's just strange - I may just create a new default vhost that is all the stuff I'm expecting to be handled by the "base" config.

to see what vhosts it is picking up from your config, apache2 -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS
also check the httpd.conf and make sure all the locations where you old config files are are included with Include statements
Include

Include is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#include and can take a file, directory, or shell wildcard as an argument.

I'll wageg it's just a matter of either relocating your Included conf's or adding some Include's to the httpd.conf to point to them
er harlan

ok, thanks guys - I just started prepping dinner so I'll dig on this in a bit.

good luck, come back if you need a hand

thanks - I use an include glob so if it's order, it's a problem "higher up"/
.

I just added multiviews to my apache conf because I have my site in 2 languages (english and danish). Is it only the fallback language that will be indexed by googlebot and other crawlers?

i believe so, yes, unless you also link to an explicit language url
did you ask this question on users@?

ya, the apache mailing list?

yeah. i was kinda hoping to see some opinions

I'm linking to a JS function that sets a language cookie for multiviews to follw :-(
What would I need to do to get both languages indexed then?

sorry Mc_Fly, just taking my kid to school
back in 1/2 hour

hi, trying to setup cgi scripts to work for users, can you add a directive in httpd-userdir.conf

cgi

cgi is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/cgi.html or http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/ScratchPad/EnablingCGI

hii
cool ill read
This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page
do i need to go to a diff link on there?

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/cgi.html

sweet
i have the addhandler in httpd.conf
and scriptalias is setup to my own home user
adn added ExecCGI to userdir conf in options, not sure if i need to add the cgi addhandler to userdir conf as well and setup some sort of alias though

do NOT use both ScriptAlias and Options +ExecCGI
one is sufficient.

in httpd.conf the addhandler doesnt use the .pl extension though does that matter?

you need to add a handler for the pl extension

change the one i have?

sure
add an extension to your existing handler, if you like.
or add a new line.

AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
thats what i have now
i think its just missing .pl

ok. Add .pl

done
anything else i need to do ?
could i just use that in place thumbs

hello. trivial question: i want to allow other people on internet to access my website at address http://localhost/etc, but they keep geting You don't have permission to access / on this server.

localhost

localhost is a just a name that people normally use for 127.0.0.1. If it's not in my /etc/hosts file and or if you don't have a loopback network interface, it's not going to work. or http://localhost/ for alot of people

you aren't telling people to type in http://localhost/etc, are you?

jpeg, sure not
i give them my ip address

alright. look in your error log for a better error message.

ur files are within a virtualHost are they?

jpeg, and i wrote etc instead of actual nam of potential site
Fudge, sure thing

i thought if the user used your ip it wouldnt match to a virtualHost

ok. unfortunately "you don't have permission..." errors are useless. you need a message from the error log.

how to get one?

don't PM me. I didn't authorized you to.

is this it?
3 2007] [error] [client 89.110.192.178] client denied by server configuration:

sorry thumbs thought would be better rather than dump 4lines into the channel!

yes, that's fine

noted

2 2007] [error] [client 82.96.96.3] client denied by server configuration:

cdbsc

excuse me?

client denied by server configuration

Have a look at http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Errors/ClientDeniedByServerConfiguration for a better idea of what this error message means

read that link, please

thnx
i will

sections in the config file?

yes, you can
it's often necessary

i suppose i have to restart server in order effects to take place?

apc

Try using http://apache.pastebin.ca - It's a good pastebin, and is even set up to highlight Apache 'stuff'.

^^
you do

i did it. it works
thnx
a lot

hi, I'm trying to set up mod_rewrite and it's not working. when I type apache2ctl -t -D DUMP_MODULES it will show that mod_rewrite has loaded. However, when I try to access a page that I rewrite, it doesn't use the rule. I've tried putting the rule in both httpd.conf and .htaccess In the error log, it shows it's still going to /var/www/originalurl How can I debug this?

rewritelog

that should help

fajita, what are you?

is i am a bot, it's broken

fajita, what kind of bot are you?

bugger all, i dunno

'k, thanks fajita

bot?

I'm *not* a bot! I'm a real girl

silly bot.

that's me :P

just tried that... rewrite.log is empty
(but it has been touched)

rewriteengine on

RewriteEngine On is required if you plan to actually *use* your RewriteRules rather than collect them

yup it's on
lemme show you my httpd.conf

apc

Try using http://apache.pastebin.ca - It's a good pastebin, and is even set up to highlight Apache 'stuff'.

good bot.

http://apache.pastebin.ca/602401
looks okay right? I basically followed mediawiki's directions step by step

looks ok to me, but I'm not the best person to consult with on rewrite rules
what's the rest of that virtuhost block look like?

RewriteLog needs RewriteLogLevel set to around 4 to do anything (defaults to 0) and these rules are in a vhost right, not htaccess?

ls -al
oops

oops is an understatement... :P

you around ?

vhost? I don't think so
it's just in the main httpd.conf file.. it's not in any block

are these rules in a htaccess file?
ok, do you have any vhosts?

I tried both .htaccess and httpd.conf

'cos if so your rules won't do anything

no I don't

are you sure? what distro are you using, and are you using their apache package?

yes, I'm using ubuntu and apache2

then you have a vhost
/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default

oh I thought a vhost was a fake domain

it might be, if fake domain meant anything

works!
thanks
well I thought it was an IRC vhost

anyone know how to make modsecurity play nice with svn

pfft, turn it off
there's nothing in an average svn conversation that won't give mod_security a fit

Why are my .php pages not cached in IE and FF?

see:
watching http headers

watching http headers is http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Recipes/WatchingHttpHeaders

could be that they set nocache etc.

can you UnLoadModule ?

nope
but if you're just trying to turn mod_security off for svn, use SecFilterEngine Off, or whatever it is

change it to just log and not block, then examine what it logs and adjust those rules so that svn will work
it will log the name of every rule that snv violates so you know which ones were blocking you

TheSneakster

so there is no way to disable a module after you load it

mean thumbs
restarting

Syntax error on line 960 of C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/conf/httpd.con
f:
Cannot load C:/Program Files/PHP/php5apache2_2.dll into server: The specified mo
dule could not be found.
Although the module is most definitely at that location.
Thoughts?
(also, the same PHP install is working perfectly in IIS)

as far as I remember that's a known bug. Don't know the fix though.
oh yeah. replace php5apache2_2.dll with one you'll find at apachelounge.com

if you're running php5.2, you should be fine
anything less than php5.2 will bork with apache 2.2
and make sure that's the right name for the dll

Running PHP5.2.3 and the name is correct (and the config file change generated by the installer)

interesting,

well that's a new one... i've not heard of any issues with php5.2 and apache2.2 on winders...

no, I didn't know that 5.2 with php will bork with apache 2.2

yeah, that's a known issue
5.2 should be fine though...

hrmmm

I don't even know where to begin, really
Tried other directories, tried fooling around with the escaping on the path
Nothing worked.

oh wait
did you put the path in double quotes?

Yep

heh
yeah windows??? o.O

LoadModule php5_module "C\Program Files\\PHP\\php5apache2_2.dll"

erm...
yeah you don't need to do \\, but i would suggest using / instead

I tried it either way
heh

check with ##php to see if there's a regression issue with php 5.2.3 and apache 2.2 on winders...

what kinda bot are you?

no idea

.....can eggdrops do that stuff?

a sarcastic one
.

no, I mean, I've seen eggies online, I didn't know if there were other types of bots or not,
figured there were, never saw an eggie act like that before though,

dance!

what?

bah.

humbug

scrooge

scrooge is niq's hero

smartass

sorry...

hehehe

be george

[USER] would like read and write access to her computer

smart bot.

see smart arse

Well, they don't seem to be aware of much in the way of incompatabilities.

smart arse

smart arse is a person who knows too much..

yeah, i'm not aware of anything either

Aside from the typical "WINDOWS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!" boilerplate

well, that's pretty well known as it is
:P
but, seriously, you're the first i've heard with php 5.2.3
not too many here use windows...
at least not the ones that talk... -_-;

if i could figure out how tell what version I got, I'd tell ya,

httpd -V

httpd -v returns Apache's version number. httpd -V returns compile settings, too.

oh, winders,

That's the thing I've always noticed about Windows admins. They get it working, and then go away.
No commitment

you're kidding, right?
o.O
that needs a serious wow

2.2.4

2.2.4 is recommended

so does Windows,
hehe
now, how to tell what version php....what's that like, 3 line script?

he didn't say windows stays working...

whats the 3 line script to show php info

i don't know

php phpinfo() ?
?

phpinfo

shows you everything about your php configuration and moreee php_info

php_info

php_info is create a page containing ' php_info(); ?' without the quotes, then load it up and your favourite browser and see if it displays the server information

Meh, I might just have to go ahead and use IIS. It's not like this is a critical project anyway. A couple users can do without their wiki for a few minutes if the server needs to be failed over for any reason.

i'm pretty sure that "the specified module could not be found" means that it can't find the module structure, not that it can't find the dll

5.2.2
for php

er... on windows, usually that line means it can't find the dll... since php 5.2 provides 3 different modules named for the version of apache they were built for
are you quite sure you're running apache 2.2?

yeah, different dll's right?

yeah
but i do take that back, it could mean both
since using the wrong dll will net you that error as well...

I think I need to kill a coworker.

heh

Downloading Apache 5.0.23 and renaming it

that always works for me...

err
wait

haha

2.0.23
haha

yeah

does not make it 2.2

well there you go
so rici was right
rici++

Now if only I weren't the last one in the office.

well, you could always just pee on your coworker's workstation...

too subtle

heh

install windows for workgroups on it

.
even better, install windows 2.0
and replace his cdrom with a 5 1/4" floppy drive

Nah
The guy's desktop is actually Ubuntu
running a bunch of Windows virtual machines

oh
does he lock his machine when away?

Yeah, but his VMs are stored on the SAN.
So they're getting moved and locked away

if you *really* want to get back at him, slackware 12 is out.
uif you *really* want to get back at him, slackware 12 is out./u

that actually works surprisingly well...
and it's even better if he's using ext2...

Nah, just making him do without his Windows boxes for 24 hours will suffice.
Since I have tommorrow off

you don't have the mean streak necessary to be a sysadmin... .
no BOFH points for you!

I save it for the users.

users are such an easy mark...

Especially the cute ones.

tsk tsk

And don't tell me about BOFHing. I actually trapped some summbitches in an elevator for the better part of the weekend
(and destroyed about 20 UPS units, and nuked a brand new Dell PowerEdge)
Cut the mains to the building before I left on Friday.
I was on call all weekend, and had "better" things to do
They blamed the construction crew
Surprisingly, I didn't get paged until early Monday morning.
The construction and fire folks got around for the elevator people pretty quick (but Friday evening is most definitely the "better" part of a weekend)
Also, who the hell decided that desktop UPS units should fall over and just plain stop working after their first full-cycle?

were is the best place to get help / support for rewrites?

Nice. I thoroughly broke PHP now.
I'm awesome.

If somebody could point me to an example of how to set up an httpd.conf (and friends) so that I could have a bunch of hostname-specific URLS (http://host.name/munin, http://host.name/awstats/, etc) where the host.name box also serves a bunch of vhosts I'd appreciate it. I have no trouble getting the vhosts going, I'm having
a problem with the host-specific services.
I like using the Include directive, and one possible glitch for me is that I like to configure the services (munin, nagios, bugzilla, awstats) as separate Include files that would be handled by what I expect will have to be the first virtual host.

i don't follow the last part. what's that about the first vhost?

I am assuming(!) that the "normal" hostname will be serving things like munin and awstats, so they must go in a VirtualHost block somewhere, and it might as well be the primary box
because otherwise "default" traffic will go to one of the hosted sites.

Include basically inserts the indicated file exactly where the Include is

right.
And if there is no magic there, I'm OK.
My problem is that I have no trouble setting up a system with no vhosts that handles awstats, etc.
and I have no problem setting up a system that *only* has vhosts.
My problem seems to be when I try and combine the two.

why dos that work fine out of a VirtualHost and not in? http://pastebin.ca/602602

you know that setting up things like awstats outside of any vhosts makes it available to all vhosts, right?

i don't see what the problem is

yes, that's OK with me for now.

by the way, good morning/night or whatever

just put the services in your default vhost
unless you want them to be available in all vhosts, which seems a bit odd.
actually, i prefer to have a default vhost which returns a 404

maybe you're putting it in the wrong vhost?

OK, I'll try that. For some reason that I have not figured out, when I did this under 2.0 it worked, and under 2.2 something changed... I'm happy to not figure out what the problem is and just install something that works.

ha ha, it could be but it is not

what happened when you tried it?

the adminsitrater has everything so

it seems straightforward enough.

I can't change it.

then i guess the answer depends on a further description of the problem. how isn't it working exactly? did you check the error log?

All traffic goes to my default vhost, and none of the preceding lines to handle awstats (etc) work - they all get tried under my default vhost.
I hope I described that right...

oh, you put them outside of the vhost

yes
and that worked for me in 2.0

that will make them available to all vhosts
unless a vhost overrides the alias or something

That was not a problem before (ie, nobody noticed it or complained).
I'd be happy to do this the "right" way, but I gotta figure it out first.
If the answer is

well, i'd view it as a security risk but you're the boss

noodl, there is not errors. If I put them out of vhost then I get the perl file as downloading file

NameVirtualHost *:80

NameVirtualHost *:80 is not the same as NameVirtualHost *

VirtualHost *:80

is in there,

noodl,rici, however if i put in not

"put all those lines in the default vhost" I'm game. And I'd be happy to avoid the potentialsecurity problem.

# This is the default vhost
Include services.conf
/VirtualHost

clear your browser's cache and restart it

Include vhosts.conf
--- that should do it
the include files could then include other files

noodl, I have done it from yesterday every single second...

dunno then, there's nothing in this config that should do what you're describing. see:
watching http headers

watching http headers is http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Recipes/WatchingHttpHeaders

and maybe also set ErrorLog debug

noodl, but it is very strange. this guy, the administrator has a lot of virtualhost *:80 for every users in the system
noodl, if I put it outside everything works fine

rici, that mostly makes sense - thanks, I;ll try it. Is that the relatively insecure solution I asked for, or is that the more secure setup you recommend?

well it's semi-secure
here's the issue
the default host is really not the best place to put protected services
because it gets triggered on any random host name, or old clients which don't send a host header
you really only want services to be triggered on correct urls, imho
header
this is why i prefer to put my services in a vhost with a specific hostname

OK, so what od you recommend (and that could be "read XXX")

and either put nothing in he default vhost, or put just public stuff, or put a redirect to the canonical hostname

OK, and that requires ppublishing DNS with those service names, right?

although the redirect won't do anything for old clients
depends who needs to use the services
i mean, you have to be the judge really.
awstats is a classic attack vector, for example.

well, I figure that anything possibly private will be protected, for example.
hmmm

you're probably running a recent version of awstats, hopefully without any issues,

yes
up-to-date

but still it makes sense to keep it away from random probes
if you kept it under a vhost with a non-public name, you could just add that name to the hosts file on the machine you use to access awstats, for example.
then a random probe for awstats will get a 404
unfortunately, they still come back.

yes, but I usually admin this remotely, as do several other folks.

right, that's why you have to be the judge.

even Alias do not work in vhost but yes outside

these are just random suggestions, things to think about.

I also haven't yet figured out a way to point the "owners" of the various vhosts at, eg, a URL that will just show them their awstats data.

aliases work fine in vhosts.

I appreciate it - this stuff was so much simpler 10-15 years ago...

wasn't it though
sigh

yeah

thumbs should be and I know but not in my case

Hmmm, I guess I could write/find an app that folks would have to log in to that would redirect them...

well, good luck. my suggestion is to keep your httpd.conf as simple as possible, with things in clear places. keep as much as possible in vhosts.

But I'm probably way too busy for that.

and don't use NameVirtualHost *
gotta run, good luck

ok, appreciated - thanks a bunch, rici!

can somebody dns ns1.phrost.net
and tell me what ip they get?

64 bytes from www.phrost.net (72.232.213.74): icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 time=121 ms

hmm ya thats www.phrost.net i need ns1.phrost.net
/dns

grateful, when i ping ns1.bla bal I get what I just wrote

damn ns1.phrost.net is supposed to equal .75 not .74
lame

rici,noodl Could the public_html defination bans my alias or do they don't work properly?
damn... the problem was I was doing dns/~user/aliasname instead of dns/aliasname

okidoki, heres what i'm trying to do, i have apache2 and php5 installed via yum. I'm trying to install php4 from source to have it run alongside php5. So far I've found out I need some sort of fastcgi/php4 combo to do this. I want to be able to use the .php extension for php4/5 scripts, but say "scripts in this directory are php4" and "scripts in this directory are php5". I was told in the #php channel that I should ask here about that

see if there's a package for php4-in-fcgi, you may be able to just yum it up

f00li5h, I actually tried doing that already when fastcgi was mentioned. there isn't one

does the php5 package conflict with the php4 package?
if yum installs binaries, it may come with a fcgi for php4 already compiled

i haven't done anything with php4 besides configure, make, and make install. I couldn't find the libphp4.so file to write it into the apache conf

did you use updatedb && locate libphp4.so

i'm not sure what updatedb or locate is. i did try to use the find command to find the file but it seems to not be locatable or existing

it's like find... but it uses an index instead of thrashing the disk

so the fact that i didn't find it using find means i also wont find it using locate
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Apache_fastcgi then figure out how to get it to work with php4
or does that sound like a bad idea?

block?

you may be interested in http://www.seaoffire.net/fcgi-faq.html too...

f00li5h, I'm not sure if that is really that helpful to me actually, it seems to be more about chrooting things. I'm really just trying to get something working temporarily. Once I have the time I'm going to uninstall everything and manually install apache,fastcgi,php4,php5 from source just for the goodness of knowing how to

installing from source on a pacakge managed system is not a good idea

Well I'm trying to move away from that, as it seems everything I try to do that isn't a standard setup, is impossible through yum
ie installing php4 and php5 togethor
f00li5h, in the makefile for fastcgi do you know what the top_dir is supposed to be going to? It doesnt seem clearly defined in the documentation

it will most likely depend on your OS's conventions, set it to a directory in your homedir first, to see what it generates, then figure out what it should be after you've done a make

f00li5h, well right now by default it goes to /usr/local/apache2 (which doesnt exist) apache is sort of all over the place. the configuration and module files are in /etc/httpd though
would it make sense that that is where it's trying to go

different distro's throw apache in different places... you need to make sure that the bits go in the right place

man i don't get why there can't just be an apache directory with all the apache stuff in it

you must be using debian

Hi all, I'm very new to apache. Can anyone help me with a 301 redirect using .htaccess files? I'm redirecting to a php page, and apache doesn't like the "?t=4" part of the url
any ideas?

thinking is *hard*!

but doing is *harder*

what is your current directives?

tnavelerri, what does the error_log say

s/is/are/

managed to figure it out actually. But thanks anyway

where can I find php.ini?

php.ini is the php configuration file. You might want to ask on #php instead. It is frequently located at /etc/php.ini or perhaps /usr/local/etc/php.ini

fajita++

how do i restart apache
How do I restart apache?

i don't know

restart apache?

apachectl restart

is it possible to do arithmetic in the .htaccess file?
like redirect index-X.html to php?t=(3+X), that's the basic operation I want.
(X being a variable)

that's what i need too
i dont think you can do it though

lol, is it possible? I'm totally new to this.
yeah, I think so too. It'd make life so easy though.

.htaccess?

.htaccess is used for apache config directives - if it is not readable, apache can't use it - if you don't want to use htaccess at all, then set AllowOverride None in httpd.conf or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/configuring.html#htaccess or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/howto/htaccess.html or or see htaccess purpose

rewrite can do condidtional rewriting, but i have not figured it out yet
i need page2 to map form ?s=50 and page3 from ?s=100 and so on

yeah, I can't find any arithmetic expressions, only conditional expressions.

there's no arithmetical operators in apache, anywhere

so that kind of mapping has to all be done manually?

no, you could use
RewriteMap

RewriteMap is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritemap or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritemap or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritemap or http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2005/04/28/apacheckbk.html

and a script

the first time i opened the url with the rev proxy, the website showed up fine, but ever since then it will only show the last page of the site i visited, rather than starting over from the beginning (i.e. the url i enter in the browser): it's as if apache is caching my last request

okay thanks, I'll checkout those links.

tnavelerri read the last one first
what do you mean by starting over? do you have CacheEnable On ?
not "On" but 'disk /path' or whatever

i'll verify that
it's very weird
yesterday, i set it up
and it finally worked, showing me the actual site rather than an apache error page
it showed me a login page, but since i don't have login credentials i couldn't test it further
but when i checked it again a little later, it just keeps showing me the last page, which isn't the url i type in
i can see the actual url it's showing in the address bar of my browser
tried from different client IP's and it's always the same

not enough detail to help with..
post config

Please put your configuration file on your Web site so that we can have a look at it. or ask me about 'nopaste' if you don't have access to a place to upload.

example url
uh, thought that was a factoid. anyway, can we see it?

sample url

Could you please give us a URL at which the behavior is demonstrated. This would help us troubleshoot the problem.

url

tell us a URL where the problem happens

thanks yango

uri

uri is uniform resource identifier

i thought it was indicator

sec, uploading

example url

Show us the money^W URL!

http://rafb.net/p/xFphNT40.html
site = http://le21.lesscouts.be/FSCWEB
site = https://le21.lesscouts.be/FSCWEB
ssl obviously

the site redirected me to a logoff page, on http, leading to an error message about speaking http to a https server

yeah, i know
i don't understand

what's there to not understand? you app is redirecting to a logout page on the wrong port
it's your app that's misconfigured, not your proxy
unless of course you can fix it with ProxyPassReverse
you've already got one of those.. can't you tell this fscweb thingy what ports it's meant to be redirecting to?

i was afraid of that
i'll contact the dev of the app
from what i've seen, it's got very dirty code anyway

that's 99% of the world, Fubarovic

hello all... wondering if someone can give me a brief rundown of this mod_rewrite rule
RewriteRule /images/(.+)$ images/$1 [L]

that does nothing useful at all, in a way that's likely to loop

ic... so no problem removing from an .htaccess file then?

only thing it might achieve in a htaccess file would be to internally remove an extra slash, but then it'll certainly loop. just kill it

cool... thanks!

it wouldn't even match in .htaccess... or you mean foo.bar.com//images/bleh?
but then it wouldn't loop, as images won't match /images

can apache handle both asp and php on the same server if it has appropiate modules installed?

yes

yeah, that. it might not loop, but removing the extra slash internally is silly

i just noticed something in the lgos, noodl, do you think it's got something to do with it?
3 2007] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured [hint:

no, that's got nothing to do with it

ok, so it's totally not my fault

but you should heed the warning anyway, even though it's not the problem at hand

^_^
yeah, i'll read up on that directive so i can fix it

yango, is that answer for me?

yes

yango, thank you

yes

Hey!

I need a w3c jar, but I find many different ones, that have various contents
I am running fop, and need to generate a font matrix file, and it says w3c.jar is included with fop, but alas it is not, and I can't find it online
Do anyone here know where to get it?

RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^/([0-9]+)$ /sf.php?x=$1
it's not working

why don't you make maven get it for you?

It's not doing anything

what are you trying to do?

Maven?

Roobarb-Work, redirect all requests such as http://domain/12312 to http://domain/sf.php?x=12312

!seen maven

looks like you're trying to redirect numerical URLS to a php file

So not a person then

uhm.... well.. I was assuming you're abusing maven or some other frame-work.. or such somethings....

Roobarb-Work, exactly

are you putting that in a .htaccess ?

Roobarb-Work, yes

remove the first /
and add [L,QSA] to the end

Roobarb-Work, why the [L,QSA], it works fine when only removing the /?

QSA

QSA is query string append or a flag for RewriteRule or see the RewriteRule Documentation http://rewrite.drbacchus.com/rewritewiki/Flags_2fQSA

Roobarb-Work, thanks alot. I bet you had a struggle with this before?

not exactly. .htaccess files change the RewriteBase to strip off the directory they are in

Hmm I see now. But we're just wanting to generate a font matrix file for use with FOP. How can maven get me my jars? )

Roobarb-Work, oh. Well good one

w3c.jar has a whole subtree of classes, but several jars in the commons aren't included
Is there a jar which includes the apache commons?

I don't know yet. I'm just getting into it. And as Java feels like a major pain in my butt, I'm not very eager of getting it on ... okay.. I don't like were this sentence is heading....

Java is a major pain
Write once (god forbit not reinventing the wheel), script and code and script to run somewhere
:-)

which modules should i get for asp to work with apache?

asp on apache

asp on apache is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ.html#asp or mod_mono or chilisoft or mod_aspdotnet

you forgot adding "maybe".

HEHEHEHEHE

anyways... In maven you'd have a dependency on a specific version of w3c [which is being packaged as jar [and provided by [and provides this]]... so maybe this is a start...

thank you fajita

hmm if alice should be allowed to access /filestore/report but not /filestore/* how would i do that?

groups...?

the problem is that if i deny access to /filestore for alice how would she get to /filestore/report if she has access to /filestore how would i prevent her from accessing /filestore/anything but report

mod_ssl

mod_ssl is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/ssl/ or http://www.modssl.org/ (for 1.3) or http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_ssl.html or http://cvs.apache.org/~mads/ac2004/MO18mod_ssl.pdf or see mod_gnutls for an alternative

in an easy way, i can't really follow what's in there because it's webdav so listing all the stuff a bit complicated. and i couldn't find anything like a "deny from user" else i could simply use a locationmatch

only Alice? What about Bob? Eve? Mallory?

bob should be allowed to access anything (bob and alice being groups already)
you see my problem? Either I'm thinking in a weird way, or apache(2.2) can't really solve that easily...

so... more groups?
or path-based-authentication for webdav?

Hi world

require group very-secure

hello

is that a realizable idea?

is it possible to get multiple IP's (vhosts) for the same internet connexion using appache and configuring httpd.conf, or do i have to buy something additional from my ISP or from somewhere else ?

you can serve multiple domains from the same IP with name based virtual hosts

could you sort the words in this sentence so it makes sense?

it might be wise to rephrase your question in english

yango++ # understanding the wicked

sorry, but english is not my native language

what language is?

Profanity is the inevitable linguistic crutch of the inarticulate blockhead

romanian

heh
no can do, sorry

is there anyway to disable the ::0 connections in apache 2.2?

ok, i'll try to explain the problem more briefly

disableipv6?
did my answer relate to your intended question?

no i want ipv6 but i keep getting a local connection from ::0

you could listen to 127.0.0.1::80 only.. or such somethings...

checked the log already?
internal dummy connection

internal dummy connection is http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-users/200604.mbox/%3C4434308F.9030003@googlemail.com%3E or http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Logs/InternalDummyConnection

i want to make an IRC server, to make some bouncers for example, and as far as i know, to get more than 4 connexions to a IRC server i would need more than one IP (or vhost), how could i make my machine connect to an IRC server throguh different IP's ?

wrong place to ask those questions... go to a romanian irc or linux (if your using linux) or networking channel

this is not apache question

that an irc related question and has nothing to do with apache. the answer, however, is that most irc servers limit the number of connections per ip, so for more than $limit connections, you'd need an extra ip

yes, i know, but i have been told that i would have to edit httpd.conf to get extra vhosts, and that would be apache related ...

...

or ask whether your irc service provider supports identd, then you can have n connections per user